Seen throughout various forms of old stone architecture is a leafy faced man called the "Green Man" or "Foliate Head" by many. This character or symbol is seen all across the world and supposedly symbolizes "rebirth" and springtime as a whole, but I've got a feeling is a lot more than that. If you're unfamiliar with this concept here's the wiki article about him.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_ManThe article doesn't go into muh detail on what it represents, claiming it symbolizing various vague concepts, but I personally think it has ties to the "wild man" archetype, and also, similarly comparable to the "jester" archetype as well, since those are stemming from the same origin. Does anyone here have any information on this phenomenon? It fascinates me greatly, it definitely seems like there's a lot more to it.
You've pretty much got it. It's likely an old pagan figure, and most of pagan tradition in England was destroyed during the Christianization years. Laws were written about killing pagans and destroying pagan worship places, so any deeper meaning to the Green Man or what his significance was is likely lost.My honest opinion? He's a bearded nature dude that shows up in holy places, and Anglo-Saxon England would have been very much "the wilderness" as far as any Romans were concerned. Green Man is probably just an offshoot of Silvanus, or he's a proto-nature spirit that inspired Silvanus.
>>40994778Druid / Pan / Nature / Pagan worshipUnironically, another disguise of satan, the devil, that old snake, and master deceiver - don't be fooled.
I saw him once in a bog.He was in a tree.He smiled fondly at me in a way that exuded such warmth it almost felt more genuine than any expression I had seen at that moment.He opened his mouth as if to speak and held it open for several minutes, and I stood holding my breath waiting for a word. But he mouthed silently towards me, as if trying to communicate something I could not hear.Then a gust of wind came quickly and blew him right from the tree: that is, when the tree had rebounded from the wind, the face was gone.
>>40994778Possible origin is Cernunnos, a Celtic God. Also, check out Sir Gawain and the Green Knight.
>>40994925>nature is evilShut the fuck up glowie
>>40994778I too watch Armoured Skeptic
>>40994778It's a bit of a leap but bear with me. The fertile crescent was once covered in forests and the Phoenician sun priests looked a lot more like celtic druids than history books let on. Asherah was lady of the forest groves, they sacrificed humans like the druids, even temple columns in ancient Greece and Egypt are artificial stone trees designed by the tree cult. The Green Man is a Celtic version of the oak / storm lord whose weather turns the wheel of seasons and brings fertility to the land, in the Babylon area they just called him Ba'al. Modern sources interpret the Green Man as the representation of the sun god Bel during the Bel-tane holy day... so same conclusion. During the height of summer the 'oak king' or sun king is sacrificed to begin the start of winter by his successor the 'holly king,' this is also where the Burning Man effigy and festival comes from.
Jack in the green?Fulcanelli wrote something about him in his second book. It wasnt that important, i think. Or i would remember it
Bump, I also want to know. Supposedly in Star Wars, the green man was “Yoda”>>40997219I initially thought of the “Lady of the Lake” reading your post, but your mention of turning the wheel made me think of Mithras. Interesting post anon
>>40995596Cernunnos is originally Gaelic afaikBut yeah same vague nature-man archetype as the Green Knight and Green Man (and unironically Fern from Adventure Time)>>40997219Should I read the Golden Bough? Should I take the Druidpill?
>>40994778The wise old man of the woods comes in many forms
Reminds me of the dude from twin towers that was the tree guy the carried the hobbit bros >>40997675
>>40994778It doesn't symbolize anything. No symbol means anything, inherently. You're just going to get a bunch of people repeating shit they've heard from others. Colors don't inherently mean anything, numbers don't mean anything, shapes, letters, words, none of them mean anything. Planets don't represent anything inherently. Saturn isn't bad, jupiter isn't good, the sun doesn't represent masculinity, the moon doesn't represent feminine. The meanings are imposed by humans.
>>40998006*tips fedora*
>>40998006What a vacuus and meaningless post. >the meanings are imposed by humansNo shit retard, that's what we're discussing. A symbol and its meanings. >masculinity/femininity/pointless trite blah blahBut they do according to the 'meanings' ascribed to them, and as we live in muh society it is a distinction without a difference
>>40995596>Green KnightVery surprised that the show adventure time had a green knight reference. The character acting as the green knight is also a warped version of the main hero, which is what I suspect the Wild Man to be akin to Christ, the Wild Man or Green Man may be a representation of an antichrist.
"The Green Man" archetype is actually in a lot of different modern media and usually keeps the wild man/wacky jester character themes as found in the original meaning, to some extent.>Green Man costume from Always Sunny in Philadelphia: Charlie dons a green screen suit and calls himself the Green Man, while wearing the suit he becomes more chaotic and rambunctious than usual.>Fern from Adventure Time: As posted about above, Fern is a grass-bodied version of Finn, making him plant based person like what the Green Man usually is depicted as. He assumes the "Green Knight as also shown there, which has direct ties to the green man. Also worth noting Fern is antagonistic because he is literally controlled by a demonic parasite.Peter from Peter Pan: A jolly and magical being who never ages and invites children to an island of wonder and adventure. The surname "Pan" evokes the idea of him being a satyr of some kind, which the Wild Man was often said to be.>Link/Deku Tree from The Legend of Zelda: Link is stated to be based on Peter Pan, and even keeps the green tunic. Personality wise Link doesn't fit this motif, but the Deku tree, being a wise and plant-like forest elder, does. Interestingly, Link is wearing blue instead of green in Breath of the Wild, where he actually does fit the wild man motif much better this time.>Luigi from Super Mario: Mario's younger twin brother. Often called "Mario's shadow", this shows there is a vaguely negative aspect between the two. He is even called "the man in green" in a few games. In one game he also fuses with a jester and a relic of chaos into an extremely powerful being, for some reason Luigi was the "perfect vessel" for this to happen. The symbolism there is very heavy.>Jolly Green Giant: The frozen vegetable brand mascot. Since the wild man has Nephilim (giant) origins, I really don't need to say much here that isn't obvious already.I'm sure there are a lot more but I can't think of them at the moment.
>>40994778the green man is pan
>>40994778the story of peter man is based on the green man(pan) also
>>40998792*peter pan
>>40994778this is literally just what you see when you are a high and looking at trees
>>40997541>Cernunnos is originally Gaelic afaikMostly Gaelic, but found as far North as Denmark.
>>40998764What if Peter Pan is the Baphomet archetype, on one side the human Peter, on the other the bestial Pan; order and chaos, light and dark, the whole jungian duality
>>40994778yes in the sprawling gardens of a historic estate grounds, as I was walking through a square plot of flowers user some trees, I looked up and saw him.Thinking of that moment makes me dry heave with how creepily shrunken the face was, and the leaves coming off were fleshy and almost bluish on the edges.So I'm frozen looking up, into the crook of the tree, the face is gripped around and the blood is pooling into the face, and I can see the textures expanding in the engorged skin, and the eyes bulging.and these crickets or cicadas start really picking up as i get tunnel vision and feel like I'm shrinking away, like a water vortex swaying around the drain.and I'm feeling perfectly peaceful getting gacked down under this insect drone, and start hearing some buggish cackles poking out of the soundscape.AND THEN A LOT OF BIRDS JOIN IN.and an elephant trumpets from far off in the background.and screams. and panic. and then a guy with a megaphone giving orders to the crowd and I wonder if the elephant was hurting people.and this primal state of perception he explained to me to be vegetation, and to be as a plant is to go where plants live, close your eyes and listen intently.
>>40994778higher intelligence managing plant growth. You don't govern your own heart rate, don't shit on who makes your lawn grow.Buy him a pint and give thanks.
>>41000334Well, that got a reaction.
>>40998870i was wondering the same. never a mother earth face. is it some timeline anomaly like back in my childhood the sun used to be female and heart at the left side where we put our hands during anthems or where medals go
Looks like Obad-Hai from d&d.
>>41000334Interesting idea.
>>40997509>Lady of the LakeMy guess is she originates as figures like Diana Nemorensis. At Nemi they had druidic nature worship centered around a lake reflecting the moon (queen of heaven?), and they also had a similar king-killing ritual.>Before challenging the current ruler, the runaway slave had to pluck a golden bough from the grove of Nemi. The runaway slave and the current rex nemorensis would then fight to the death for the role of high priest. The tradition of the rex nemorensis offered the runaway slave a rags-to-riches opportunity of becoming king. However, it came at a cost: for the rest of his life, he had to fight challengers to the death in order to retain his position of power.>YodaBig think, especially in the originals he's just as much a capricious trickster as some jedi master. In the new movies they depicted him as the black sun in front of a burning tree of knowledge.https://youtu.be/6fek6iJlm8s
>>41000346was me responding to [a reaction] to my own postsorry for any confusion>>41000525It seems weird to us that higher/other intelligence's would have actual personalities. The mistake of forgetting that just being polite goes a long way.
Nice bullshit bud
>>41000661Until it isn't, right?
>>40997219You do realize that you're missing the most insightful part of this. The storm god: it's hercules. From susa-no-o to ba'al hamon and Veles. The enemy of the snake. Thor.
>>40994778The green man is John the Baptist aka Cernunnos aka Veles aka Pan who baptized Christ in the fires of hell.
>>41000334>higher intelligence managing plant growthHonestly, I've wondered if this isnt Bigfoot. A plant-based mobile intelligent life form that lives in the forest. Kind of like the Tolkien Ents. You cant see them or know they are there because they are part of the forest.
>>41001352This is very interesting. Can you elaborate?
>>40998006>No symbol means anything, inherently.Holy cow you're dumb lol
>>40994778cool pic OP i like how the leaves around his face make a subtle pentagram>>40994925Nature is GOOD, the Green Man is good. Any religion which preaches that nature is "evil" must be evil
>>41002078Christ went to hell for 3 days and resurrected. This was his baptism of wisdom; Baphomet.The circus and the black lodge in twin peaks represent hell. The red velvet drapes represent the fires of hell. The clowns represent the the djinn who reside there. The djinn are the Annunaki also known as the Elohim. The Elohim are the Reptilians that well poisoners rant and rave about. Lucifer is said to be a seraph, which means fiery serpent in Hebrew. Scythians descend from the serpentine goddess Artimpasa and Artimpasa is Ishtar and Ishtar is Lucifer. Scythians were said to have been the oldest nation and it was they who were said to have built the Tower of Babel.The fallen angels bread with Cain and his lineage according to the jews. Cain's real mother was said to have been Lilith.Cain was the first freemason and it was the fallen angels who taught Cain warfare, art and music and magic and how to build. And the sons of God saw the daughters of men and saw they were fair etc etc...(fair means white and or noble and noble means Aryan)It was the race of Cain, the Atlanteans who built the ancient world and all it's pyramids before the great flood. The native Americans speak of white serpents who built their pyramids. The Vedas describe their gods with blonde hair and blue eyes.Aryans are the chosen people. And only an Aryan can be a Christ which means anointed and is also a Greek word.God is the devil and the devil is GodAnd Aryans are his childrenAnd Christ is his sonAnd Muhammad (who was white with red hair) is his prophet.The black sun is Solomon's temple and Solomon's temple is the Kaaba.The Kaaba is the black lodge.To go to Hajj is to witness hell with your very own eyes.
>>41002038Green Man is also comparable to the Wild Man which is a hairy beast like humanoid too
Yeah he protects the eye of the world and tends to the grove surrounding it. He can only ever be found once by any individual, finding him is a bit odd as well.Its based on need, not desire. You have to need to find him. It keeps out selfish people. Legend says he has something to do with the dragon reborn, but who knows?
>>40994778>Green Man
>>40994778More Satan worship meant to take emphasis away from the only God and turn people from his church. We know what the green man is, it's a demon. No more explanation is necessary.
christfag fatigue is so real
>>41004716I understood this reference
ouroboros, asymmetry, yonic/crow symbolism and green purple duality
>>41006723May you always find water and shade.
>>40994778>there is an empty space on that building>let's carve something there so it's not empty, let's make a face>wouldn't it look cool to make a face out of leaves?>some time later, another sculptor sees it>hey that face looks cool, I gonna put one on the next column I makeand so on.
>>41006685I have normalfag and redditor fatigue
