Why do we have to reconnect to a being who limits us and plays with our lives? Who gives us feelings and then when we act upon said feelings He punishes us for acting upon the feelings that He gave us is the first place? Why give us feelings then? Just to punish us when we fail for not being perfects as He says He is? But again, He made us smaller than Him. No matter how much we try we will never reach this standards of divine perfection and blamelessness. Because if we did then the bible says that we would be able to brag before God about how we also are blameless like He is. So God doesn't want noboby being equal to Him so He limits us to be sinners on purpose, in this proto Hell we call Earth, this fucked up Matrix. None of us here was born through the union of the holy spirit and a virgin. If we were then we would be like Jesus and God. We would be part of the Elohim. Why do we have to reconnect to such a being? Why is God like this? What can we do as human beings to fight Him? How can we be free from His influence? Why do we have to serve a God who limits us and make us feel inadequates? It's like worshiping the guy who is beating you down with a whip or even worshiping a guy who rapes you in the ass.
>>41000611are the son and the father not one?thus isnt it a game of hide and seek?
To control the masses. Who revolts if vengeance is the lord's? Religion inverts your divinity, has you externally seeking and worshipping an outward parasite instead of what is within
>>41000611Try to fight, where will you punch?
>>41001353>are the son and the father not one?I'm like my father and "fuck God" for that. My father is stupid. My father is a nobody. My father is a slave. Therefore, I'm a little less stupid than him (thank Satan for that), but I'm still a nobody like him and I'm still a slave like him. We are not really chilfren of God. None of us is. We are not His offspring. We were created by His hands, yes. But we are not His biological children. Jesus may be. Whatever. But Jesus is a especial case. If Jesus is really God's son then Jesus is like His "daddy". Jesus is what? Second only to God. Maybe not even second, but equal. So Jesus is a especial case.If Jesus was not God's offspring he would be a nobody like us. A slave. Not the slave owner himself.>Who revolts if vengeance is the lord's?Fucking nobody who believes in that shit! You must forgive the guy who raped your son in the ass and took his innocence away. That's is what the christians preach. It pisses me off.>Try to fight, where will you punch?Yeah. aha. Funny. I know God is a spirit, silly. But there is really anything we can do? Will we be slaves for all eternity? This can't be the case! If this is the case then we must do something. We must create a way to escape from God's tyranny.
>>41001760>of what is withinInsecurity, hatred, and misanthropy. That is all that is within me
I posted a thread about this last night>>40998995
When you look at "primitive" religion it is almost universally animistic: the natural world (which is the world, because the division between nature and civilization doesn't yet exist) is experienced to be filled with emotions, personalities, intentions, and meaning. The "spiritual community" was the entire world around one's self. One's relationships with the plants, animals, waterways, and sky was omnipresent and filled with emotions and layers of memories.The "animism," the anthropomorphism was a syntax for trying to bridge the human and extra-human worlds; *to communicate with that which cannot speak."* And to commune with them.Then some humans invented agriculture and divided the world into farm vs. wild. This is the primordial division. The wild becomes an enemy of the field: it must be held at bay, kept from overgrowing or contaminating, or from invasion from pests. The fence is erected, reifying the division.This is done because the farm produces more food by being maintained to favor output for human purposes. Agriculture created a food surplus that made it so everyone didn't need to be engaged in gathering food: there could be more specialization as merchants, or craftsmen, or builders. The food surplus also gave rise to political power as a few found that they could benefit greatly by controlling the distribution of the surplus (spoiler: they gave the most to themselves.) So the division of agriculture resulted in class divisions.
>>41003931Now the problem with this is that the ruling classes must perpetually justify their rule and exploitation, and so naturally agricultural religions began to shift to become increasingly antagonistic to nature. This is why the first lesson of the first chapter of The Bible is that God created the Earth and all living things to rule and exploit:>Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.>27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.>28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.2>9 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.With few exceptions agricultural religions evolved to justify the exploitation and rule of the rulers, and to give coping mechanisms for the suffering masses such as "Just meditate more, bro" or "It will be better in heaven." And to do this the first act of spiritual violence they must do is mutilate humans' spiritual connection to nature.The way out of Plato's cave is to literally go Outside. Pursue natural beauty and study the lives and history of the natural world. Forging a spiritual connection with nature isn't a meme, it's the source of all wellness.Forging such a connection isn't all good feels, in fact if it is real you should feel endless rage at what is being done to nature.
>>41000611>Why does religion exists?For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16, the Holy Bible.For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 1 Corinthians 15:22, the Holy Bible.Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?” John 11:25-26, the Holy Bible.>Why give us feelings then? When He had called the people to Himself, with His disciples also, He said to them, “Whoever desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me. For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake and the gospel’s will save it. For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?” Mark 8:34-36, the Holy Bible.>Just to punish us when we fail for not being perfects as He says He is?Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. James 5:16, the Holy Bible.If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9, the Holy Bible.For You, Lord, are good, and ready to forgive, And abundant in mercy to all those who call upon You. Psalm 86:5, the Holy Bible.>No matter how much we try we will never reach this standards of divine perfection and blamelessness.For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous. Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more, so that as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 5:19-21, the Holy Bible.
>>41000611>So God doesn't want noboby being equal to Him so He limits us to be sinners on purpose, Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! Therefore the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is. And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure. 1 John 3:1-3, the Holy Bible.>Why is God like this?Seek the Lord while He may be found,Call upon Him while He is near.Let the wicked forsake his way,And the unrighteous man his thoughts;Let him return to the Lord,And He will have mercy on him;And to our God,For He will abundantly pardon.“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,Nor are your ways My ways,” says the Lord.“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,So are My ways higher than your ways,And My thoughts than your thoughts.Isaiah 55:6-9, the Holy Bible.>What can we do as human beings to fight Him? How can we be free from His influence?There is a way that seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death. Proverbs 14:12, the Holy Bible.>Why do we have to serve a God who limits us and make us feel inadequates?The fear of the Lord is a fountain of life, To turn one away from the snares of death. Proverbs 14:27, the Holy Bible.>It's like worshiping the guy who is beating you down with a whip or even worshiping a guy who rapes you in the ass.Repent, and believe in the gospel. Mark 1:15, the Holy Bible.Repent: to think differently or afterwards, that is, reconsider.
>>41000611>Why do we have to reconnect to such a being?Trust in the Lord with all your heart,And lean not on your own understanding;In all your ways acknowledge Him,And He shall direct your paths.Do not be wise in your own eyes;Fear the Lord and depart from evil.It will be health to your flesh,And strength to your bones.Proverbs 3:5-8, the Holy Bible.Our Father in heaven,Hallowed be Your name.Your kingdom come.Your will be doneOn earth as it is in heaven.Give us this day our daily bread.And forgive us our debts,As we forgive our debtors.And do not lead us into temptation,But deliver us from the evil one.For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.Matthew 6:9-13, the Holy Bible.
Fucks people over in much different ways!
>>41003810I'm going to check it out.>>41003931I guess I never took the time to think about the impact agriculture had on the world. You fast foward to our present day and I never experienced a forest. I'm completely alienated from that environment and confined to the city.>>41005221Next time I will make it clear that I don't appreciate the christians tie response and I will say that christians are not welcome here in my thread. What am I supposed to do with your answers? ou give a bunch of random bible verses in the hopes of explaining shit like this? Fucking lame. You only make me think less of christians with that answer. Unreal. >>41005337Again, you just make me more sure that christians are stupid. How can I trust God with all my being if I think He is evil? I must do what you did. I must deny my own logic and delude myself into thinking that my way of ratinalizing things is not right and then trust in what is written in the bible. But why? Why God doesn't want us questioning Him? Is He afraid that we will find out that He is not good? Christianity doesn't make too much sense when you stop to think about it. I don't appreciate your answers. Not because you are a christian, but because they don't make any sense and will not help me to understand why religion exists.
>>41006473>christians are not welcome here in my thread.Many are called. Few are chosen.
You get to a point with...Births unions deaths...And start asking yourself why...And wot 4...A beginning inwhich there is no end...In sight...And that must have hurt...The old humans...A mindless self indulgence...Maybe is the only remedy...We overcomplicate things to the...Point where moar than one was needed...To sign off on anything...It was called the PLAN...And it was good like day and night...Not light and dark...
>>41006473I moved to Western Washington state because I fell in instant love with the temperate rainforests here when I visited.The forests here have taught me more than anything else.I am friends with Grey and Douglas squirrels and Stellar's Jays and Spotted Towhees. Made a brief acquaintance with an owl who visited my backyard three days in a row.Animals enjoy their lives. They experience beauty, they take time to savor. Many of them are outstandingly curious beyond an opportunistic impulse.The voices in the forest including the squirrels, birds, coyotes and humans forms a trans-species network of communication that keeps inhabitants updated about the goings-on. It creates an emergent intelligence individuals benefit from woven from the voices of the many. The voices can signify things like the availability of food or water, or danger.The most preposterous notion is that humans invented language when nature already speaks in a variety and complexity beyond human comprehension. With the greatest trouble we struggle to decypher the crudest signals of nonhuman beings, when to these lives it is as natural as breathing.The greatest lie ever told is human supremacy.
I hope you're enjoying the new semester, OP! Unfortunately, you'll have to wait for the other 69,420,000 junior high students to finish their presentations on atheism. Come back after lurking until the end of the Kali Yuga
>>41000611>understand religion through a Calvinist American Protestant lens further distorted by American pop culture views of Christian theology>"wtf why doesn't it make sense???"
>>41003723This reeks of David Ayer/Jon Bernthal tier 2deep4u TexMex kvetching
> Great is the mystery,> God was manifest in the flesh> 1 Timothy 3:16>> The Lord thy God in the midst of thee is mighty> Zephaniah 3:17Absolute truth is Jesus Christ. It is not a hidden truth, but out in the open. Everything we need to know is in the Bible and most importantly, in a personal relationship in Jesus, everyone can build by asking for the Holy Spirit from God to be given to them. Our hearts and minds are renewed from sin by this. You only need to ask sincerely.We are not gods, but children of God, made in His image, though marred by sin due to Satan.But in Jesus, there is our salvation.Accept Jesus and be saved.Craziness of our governments is a combination of the madness of man, aka created beings that have deluded themselves into thinking they don't need a relationship with their creator and thus are doomed to die. And Satanic deception that yet permeates the Earth that desires our souls.You are cosmically important for the same reason that every human being is important.You are made in the Image of God, and He was willing to let His only son die for you.This is the Truth, what makes us special. Nothing that we do on our own makes us special, but love of God and a relationship that we have with Him.Jesus sets us free.Be Free In Him.Amen.
>>41000611You dono talk about religions you talk about christianity
>>41000611We're all God, we're everyone and a single very powerful entity.This isn't the first cycle of existence and won't be the last.At the end of each cycle every fragment of "god" goes back to it's origin point, it's why every religion teaches to treat others nicely, because while they are "separate" they are part of the whole And in the process of mending these fragments at the end of each cycle every memory is experiences through that single entity as one.Now, the worst part is god is trapped inside an endless voidWhile he's powerful he has his limits, he can't get outAnd he doesn't know who created him and for what purpose.So, the only way to endure is to fracture itself and experience life again and again forever.
>>41001760Yes. Also to control terribly cruel people, centralizing cruelty in certain higher ranks instead of letting them unleashed on the streets. Not it's like a point of control, where they let the beasts out so people beg for more control. Religion couldn't possibly exist without very very evil people.
>>41003939Love
