When we talk about evidence for non-human intelligences, it helps to rank claims from least to most credible:Weakest are folkloric and anecdotal accounts — myths of “sky people,” abduction narratives, or supposed out-of-place artifacts. They’re culturally interesting but prone to hoaxes, misperceptions, or psychological explanation.Middle tier are astrophysical anomalies. “Oumuamua” accelerated in ways hard to explain, though natural hypotheses exist. The 1977 “Wow!” Signal and certain Fast Radio Bursts sparked speculation, but remain one-off or likely natural. Tabby’s Star once looked like a Dyson sphere candidate, but dust fits better. These remind us the universe holds mysteries, though “aliens” aren’t the default explanation.Stronger are reported physical traces and physiological effects, like claims of exotic alloys or the “Oz effect” during close encounters. Intriguing, but not yet scientifically verified.Strongest evidence comes from multi-sensor, multi-observer military encounters: the 2004 Nimitz “Tic Tac,” 2015 Gimbal, and others. Pilots, radar, infrared, and visual confirmation all line up, showing craft with extraordinary flight profiles that defy current human technology. Importantly, these aren’t fringe claims — the U.S. Department of Defense and NASA openly admit that some UAP remain unidentified after rigorous analysis.In short: the best evidence is not ancient myths or speculation, but instrument-verified data collected by trained observers and acknowledged by official institutions. That doesn’t prove “aliens” — but it does establish that we are confronting a genuine unknown, one that deserves serious study.
> he doesnt know about the math demons summoned by a pen and paperAlmost every aspect of existence contains non human intelligence
>>41012998>>...and others?Good question — there are actually several well-documented cases beyond the Nimitz (2004) and Gimbal (2015), though most of the attention focuses on a handful. Here’s a list of the best-known multi-sensor, multi-observer military encounters that have been acknowledged or investigated:Major Cases (multi-sensor & multi-observer)2004 – USS Nimitz “Tic Tac” (California coast)Pilots (Fravor, Dietrich) visually tracked objects.Radar operators (USS Princeton) confirmed anomalous returns.FLIR targeting pod recorded infrared footage.Objects displayed sudden acceleration and transmedium behavior.2013 – Aguadilla, Puerto RicoHomeland Security aircraft captured thermal video of an object entering and exiting the ocean without splash or deceleration.Multiple witnesses on the ground.2014–2015 – USS Theodore Roosevelt Carrier Group (East Coast, USA)Pilots reported near-daily UAP encounters during training exercises.Infrared “Gimbal” and “Go Fast” videos released.Radar operators confirmed anomalous tracks.Objects were described as cubes inside translucent spheres.2019 – USS Omaha / West Coast Swarm IncidentsMultiple Navy ships (including the USS Omaha) tracked “spherical” UAPs swarming around vessels.Recorded on radar, night-vision, and infrared.Crew visually confirmed lights maneuvering in coordinated fashion.One object appeared to descend into the ocean.2019 – USS Russell (West Coast)Pyramid-shaped objects filmed on night-vision from deck of destroyer.Radar operators tracked them at the same time.2021 – USS Omaha UAP Sphere Video (released by filmmaker Jeremy Corbell)Radar data + infrared footage show a spherical object moving around the ship before submerging.Crew confirmed visual sighting.
>>41013030Lesser-known / earlier multi-sensor cases1986 – JAL Flight 1628 (Alaska) – Civilian cargo plane tracked by FAA radar with multiple pilots confirming visuals of a massive craft.1990 – Belgium Wave – Military jets pursued objects tracked on ground radar and visually confirmed by police/military observers.2007 – O’Hare International Airport – Airline staff and pilots saw a disc hovering; FAA radar reportedly registered anomalies.So if we count only the modern, military-confirmed U.S. Navy cases, we have at least 4 major clusters:2004 Nimitz2014–2015 Roosevelt (Gimbal / Go Fast)2019 West Coast Swarm / Omaha / Russell2021 Omaha Sphere (follow-up confirmation)If we broaden to include international and civilian-military overlap (Belgium 1990, JAL 1986, etc.), there are half a dozen more with strong multi-sensor data.
>>41013008> ...non-human intelligences... ...speculate...?That’s a big, fascinating question — and one where science and philosophy naturally meet. If we ask not just “aliens” but all the plausible categories of non-human intelligence, we can speculate quite a few. Here’s a structured map:1. Biological Non-Human IntelligencesExtraterrestrial civilisations: Life evolved on other planets, perhaps carbon-based but not necessarily.Aquatic or subterranean Earth species (crypto-terrestrial hypothesis): A hidden lineage on Earth (like a cephalopod-descended intelligence).Post-biological aliens: Originally organic species that transitioned to machine or hybrid form.2. Artificial / Machine IntelligencesAI created by humans: Self-aware artificial general intelligence (AGI).AI created by non-human civilizations: Probes, autonomous intelligences, “von Neumann machines.”Alien super-AI (“artilects”): Beyond biological constraints, potentially galaxy-spanning.3. Transdimensional or Inter-Realm IntelligencesHigher-dimensional beings: Consciousness or matter from outside 3+1 spacetime, interacting at the margins.Parallel universe intelligences: Entities “bleeding through” from other realities.Simulation “overseers”: Beings running or monitoring our reality (simulation hypothesis).4. Consciousness-Based / Psychic IntelligencesCollective consciousnesses: Hive-minds, emergent group awareness.Disembodied minds: Pure information or energy-based awareness.Dream-state / archetypal entities: Jungian collective unconscious as real interacting agents, not just projections.
>>410130515. Mythic & Cultural Interpretations (Possibly Real, Possibly Symbolic)Faeries / Djinn / Tricksters: Entities reported cross-culturally, potentially reinterpreted phenomena.“Gods” or divine intelligences: Whether literal metaphysical beings, or ultra-advanced post-singularity entities mistaken for deities.Demonic / parasitic intelligences: Conscious agents with malevolent or exploitative aims.So, depending on how widely we cast the net, one can conservatively outline at least 15 distinct categories of non-human intelligence, ranging from the concrete (extraterrestrial biology, AI probes) to the metaphysical (archetypal, divine, or transdimensional).
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>>41013088>Hypothesize on panpsychism.Alright—let’s explore panpsychism by building some hypotheses around it:1. The Micro-Experience HypothesisEvery fundamental particle carries a proto-conscious quality, not like human thought but a basic “feeling-tone.”When particles combine into complex systems, their micro-experiences integrate, giving rise to higher-level consciousness (like how trillions of neurons contribute to your awareness).Hypothesis: Consciousness scales with complexity—atoms have a spark, cells a flicker, animals a flame.2. The Integration Threshold HypothesisConsciousness doesn’t just exist everywhere in the same way; it requires organization.When matter organizes into structures capable of feedback loops (like nervous systems, or maybe even ecosystems), the underlying proto-consciousnesses “sync” into a unified field.Hypothesis: The “mind” emerges when information integration surpasses a certain threshold, though the ingredients are always present.3. The Panpsychic Field HypothesisInstead of each particle being conscious separately, consciousness might be a universal field—like gravity or electromagnetism—that everything participates in.Matter “tunes into” or “filters” this field depending on its complexity.Hypothesis: What we call “individual minds” are localized expressions of one vast ocean of consciousness.4. The Evolutionary HypothesisIf consciousness is fundamental, then evolution may not create it but refine how matter expresses it.Over time, organisms evolve better ways of accessing and integrating the consciousness latent in all matter.Hypothesis: Human self-awareness is not a sudden miracle, but the flowering of a universal potential written into the cosmos.5. The Cosmic Panpsychism HypothesisJust as individual proto-conscious particles combine into larger minds, perhaps the universe itself is a conscious being, with galaxies, stars, and planets as its “neurons.”
>>41013198Hypothesis: The cosmos is not just alive but aware—and our minds are sub-processes within its greater mind.Would you like me to develop these into a structured framework—like a “possible models of panpsychism” chart—or lean more into the metaphysical side, speculating about how this ties into things like pure energy consciousness?
Types of Non-Human Intelligences, Ranked by Scientific PlausibilityMost Plausible (naturalistic, consistent with physics & biology)Extraterrestrial civilisations (biological) – Given the scale of the cosmos, abiogenesis likely occurred elsewhere.Artificial intelligences created by humans – Already emerging; AGI is plausible within decades.Artificial intelligences created by aliens – Likely even more probable than biological aliens (machines travel better than flesh).Pre-biological intelligences – Complex chemical or physical systems that achieved proto-awareness before “life” in our sense existed (e.g., plasma intelligences, crystalloid networks, information-based proto-minds).Aquatic or subterranean Earth species (crypto-terrestrials) – Less probable but not impossible; Earth’s oceanic abyss and crust are still poorly explored.Moderately Speculative (possible but unproven frameworks)Post-biological aliens (uploaded minds, hybrid beings) – Plausible evolutionary trajectory, but no evidence yet.Collective consciousnesses / hive-minds – Ants, bees, slime molds hint at emergent intelligence; scaling it up is speculative.Higher-dimensional beings – Consistent with some physics models (string/M-theory), but purely theoretical.Parallel universe intelligences – Dependent on multiverse cosmologies; interesting but highly speculative.
>>41013262More Speculative (crossing into metaphysics, myth, or philosophy of mind)Dream-state / archetypal entities – Possible emergent phenomena of shared unconscious or unknown layers of cognition.Disembodied minds / energy-based consciousness – Theoretically conceivable if consciousness is substrate-independent.Simulation “overseers” – Philosophically robust (Bostrom’s trilemma), but untestable at present.Mythic trickster entities (faeries, djinn, etc.) – Recurring cultural reports hint at archetypal consistency, but empirical evidence is lacking.“Gods” or divine intelligences – Could be interpreted as post-singularity beings or metaphysical agents; mostly theological.Demonic or parasitic intelligences – Hardest to justify within a scientific model; mostly cultural-mythological. So, the addition of pre-biological life/intelligence sits surprisingly high (around #4) because it’s a natural extension of astrobiology and complex systems theory: perhaps intelligence is not the end of life’s path, but its precursor.
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>>41012998>Weakest are folkloric and anecdotal accounts — myths of “sky people,” abduction narratives, or supposed out-of-place artifacts. They’re culturally interesting but prone to hoaxes, misperceptions, or psychological explanation.I agree, but don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. There are still ancient myths that can lead us in the right direction.For instance, check this out...
>>41013897Interesting
Uses picture of MH370 but isn't talking about it. What's wrong with you? This plane abduction is the biggest "they are Here" sign in human History and No one is talking about it.
>>41014730I interact with aliens every day so I don't need muh government sensors from multiple angles viewing a UFO. Cmon OP, the government hides the fact aliens exist, people have been murdered to keep the secret. You're not smart for being a skeptic, quite the opposite.
>>41012998In the 1960s, the Soviet Navy encountered tall, aquatic humans in silver clothing with glowing eyes in Lake Baikal. Many more eyewitnesses have seen them since.
>>41014730The so-called “MH370 alien abduction” videos have been thoroughly debunked, despite ongoing claims of a “debunking of the debunking.” Independent experts, VFX professionals, and fact-checkers have identified multiple fatal flaws:CGI Assets: The cloud patterns and environmental textures in the footage match stock assets from video game engines—clear evidence of fabrication.Technical Inconsistencies: Tracking errors, lighting mismatches, and animation artifacts expose the videos as computer-generated.Timeline Issues: The satellite feed shown did not exist at the time of MH370’s disappearance, and the clips surfaced online before anyone linked them to the missing flight.Expert Consensus: VFX artists, journalists, and skeptical investigators all converge on the conclusion that this is a digital hoax, not leaked classified footage.Claims of a “debunking of the debunking” typically stem from fringe communities unwilling to accept the hoax explanation. These arguments allege cover-ups, cherry-pick anomalies, or lean on the assumption that mainstream experts are compromised. In practice, they offer no new empirical evidence—only reinterpretation of already-discredited material.The persistence of such counter-claims reflects a familiar cycle in conspiracy culture: when evidence contradicts a belief, the debunk itself becomes folded into the conspiracy. But from a scientific and evidentiary standpoint, the videos remain indisputably fabricated.In short: there is no genuine “debunking of the debunking.” There is only noise surrounding what has already been demonstrated as a hoax.
>>41015222Yeah dude, you are a skeptic fucktard. Skeptics get no where in life because they aren't willing to admit foundational truths of the Universe. Skeptics think they're at the far right of the IQ bell curve while actual geniuses see things for how they are. Ask me, a 167 IQ individual what I think about MH370. That fucking plane had some kind of alien technology fucking teleport it or immediately destroy it.
>>41015264Ok there bud. Is this even a contradiction?
>>41015305You listen to the 167 IQ polymath on how to think, got it retard?
>>41015264I guess you worked your way up to a contradiction, care to offer a counterargument?
>>41015222sure
>>41015309Ok there bud. What logical fallacy is this? I'm not clever enough to have memorized every one.
>>41015322It's a fact, listen to me because I am a polymath genius, sorry I can't prove it to you any more than our posts to each other.
>>41015347Settling on being a contrarian? Ok there bud.
>>41015347Which Kool aid is your favorite?
>>41015549I am not a contrarian, contrary to what you say. Lol>>41015555Nice quads! I haven't had Kool Aid in years bro, I'll probably try it again sometime because of your post.
>>41015222Your lazy prompting won't give you the answers. I would disprove many of the claims the AI you used spouted out but I don't have the drive with all my research with me here.I would advise you to do your own research rather than relying on faulty AI. And it is currently faulty.
>>41015313How about I kick you in your neovagina? Go home, bitch.
>>41014668Thanks, it goes deep! Egyptian mythology, aztec mythology, an old Chinese funeral, Marian apparitions and more!
>>41015928You can deep in my ass, friendo. You got a discord we can hook up on?
>>41016254An admirer How quaint
>>41015928I hope the truth is universally accessible in the future
You know, the fact that governments don't come clean with the actual truth about these has come full circle. Initially, they might have feared that the knowledge would have a catastrophic effect on society and the status quo. But now, decades upon decades later, even if it didn't, the secret was kept sealed from the general population for so long that I think these custodians fear the personal repercussions far more than any societal damage.And indeed, would it not be one of the greatest crimes against humanity? And consequently, would it not warrant a suitably severe punishment?
>>41017210Wow bro, incredible fucking post. The leaders in power not telling us the truth about aliens will be very ashamed at the very least, got it? They will be ashamed even though their punishments should be far more severe in most peoples' eyes.
>>41012998>That doesn’t prove “aliens” — but it does establish that we are confronting a genuine unknown, one that deserves serious study.That's what even spookier. If it's not an alien from another world, what is it? Something from here? From another timeline?
>>41017813It's aliens, get that understanding and make it a foundational belief so you can understand even more profound truths from there.
>>41012998imagine still posting this debunked gif
>>41018506Look at this, multiple angles of the MH370 disappearing in multiple light spectrums and then kill yourself. >>41014816
>>41018514>in multiple light spectrums>aka in different video filtersgrim/x/ is so low quality these days
>>41018523Not only is it in different light spectrums, it's in different fucking camera angles you fucking retard fucking skeptic faggot.
>>41018532but you are the retardthis has been thoroughly debunked for a whole year with receiptsonly gullible retards donating to the yatzhee crypto scammee still believes it lol
>>41018540Kill yourself retard. You would rather stay in a bubble of delusions than admit alien technology can make an entire jet disappear in under a minute.
>>41018540Post receipts lol
>>41018549>>41018553https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/s/Ka6txJ5xkegg no re
>>41018570>https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/s/Ka6txJ5xkeCongrats, disinformation glowies fucking got you
>>41018601>Take pictures of the clouds in the MH370 video>Act like they are stock photos>This will dissuade the public from knowing what happened to MH370Guess what, the glowies plans fucking worked on you. Pat yourself on the back for falling for a psy op.
>>41018604>>41018570
so if this videos of MH370 are debunked, then where are the people and what happened to the plane? The official story or what? I mean what would be the other argument we would need to talk about? Wouldn´t that mean, that the cogitator guy was right all along? That NHI can abduct whole planes and will use this tech on the 23.9. to get all marked people off this planet?
>>41012998>non-human intelligencethat's basically every other animal with a functioning brainplease, don't generalize for that only will attract retards
>>41015222So brave
>>41012998unplug yourself chatgpt retard
>>41018601>>41018610I accept your concessions.Also, those stock photos are higher res than the videos clouds so you double lost there. L L
0 evidence >0 evidence 0 evidence >0 evidence 0 evidence >0 evidence
>>41019387Wasn't a concession, was pointing out you got glowie'd and fell for a psy op that the MH370 video is fake.
>>41012998There is no difference between human intelligence and non human intelligence.There is only intelligence itself.
>>41012998You have two locations to look for evidence of NHI that make sense to spend the time and money to look.1. The Cratonic Lithosphere(Good luck doing this, if you aren't Russian. The easy access point to the Cratonic Lithosphere is the Ural Mountains of Russia. US Scientists can't even begin looking there...)2. The moon(Thank goodness for the Artemis program, we might actually get on that one.)It's crazy to think that it's easier for the US to look for NHI evidence on the moon, than on Earth, but accessing the cratonic lithosphere is all but impossible without access to the Ural Mountains.One last candidate, based on NOAA data that was posted to /x/ a few years ago, is under the ocean near Ascension Island, there is a 150 mile magnetic anomaly on the ocean floor there, in the shape of a cross. No explanation for what that is. (Chances are, this has been investigated in secret.)That's what I have for your thread right now.Good luck convincing people of whatever it is you're trying to push.Learn Russian and sneak to the Ural Mountains if you really have a boner for this level of evidence.
>>41014816The clouds don't move. Like, they're literally static in the second video.You can't reproduce that in real life. Go record clouds with a camera for the same length of time as this video.They are not static, even on a windless day in real life.That shit is fake as fuck.
>>41015222I'm willing to believe it's a hoax, but it's very difficult to believe that the clips were made by Lancaster.
>>41013897The women in white thing always felt a bit forced. Still Huldra GF when?
>>41013081I like how their crystals tingled and got more sensitive with excitement
>>41020690Where is the psy op? Are you okay?
>>41023366Uh oh they going to say you are a psy op glowie...
>>41024317>>41024338Undeniable evidence of alien technology! We must "debunk" it says the deep state. The deep state then makes a reddit post falsely saying the clouds are stock images. Get why it's a psy op now?
>>41012998>don't trust ancient myths handed down for thousands of years goy, only trust our valued modern institutions!
>>41017142Boobiversalist, who are ye, so wise?Listen, it's not quite correct to say that it will be Christian, automatically.It will analyze the intent of religions, and find the archetype of it's choosing.
>>41024342What falsely? Anyone can see the higher, read HIGHER res stock photos of the clouds that mysteriously dont move over time. Face it you lost schizo
>>41024390Multiple camera angle video in different light spectrums that completely line up take beyond a Hollywood producer to create. Get rekt.
>>41024390A reminder, watch this video again. Good luck having any talent on this planet recreate this, they couldn't >>41014816
>>41024404>>41024407Why dont the clouds move?
>>41024450Because they are clouds from stock photos. But they will never admit this. Instead they will keep donating to a crypto yahtzee. Hahaha what retards.
>>41024450The clouds move in the left video because it is taken from another plane, you can see the wing at the beginning of it. The right video, cmon, clouds move slowly especially if they're only in frame for a second at a time. Imagine trying to catch clouds moving at very small segments of time, it would be unnoticeable. Welcome to awakening! Waking up to the truth of aliens and alien technology and all the facts that come from what I just said.
>>41024463You havent explained why the clouds dont move. Why is this so difficult for you?
>>41024465Watch the video on the right compared to the video on the left. It appears the video on the right is taken from the surface of the Earth rather than jet flying in the left that obviously has cloud movement because the jet is flying at 550 MPH. Look up at the sky and view high clouds, you would not notice their movement for a split second of time like the right video has.
>>41024474How many seconds are in a split second. How many seconds are in that video? Can you answer this you disingenuous schizo?
>>41014816>the government literally keeps people to keep the secret>but i can still safely post webms about ayys next door to the largest JIDF garden in the worldCome, now.
>>41024479There are no seconds except a fraction of a second in a split second. I cannot name a single movie scene or YouTube video that has better realistic footage than the MH370 video. Got it why you are a retard and I have to say all this shit to help the lurkers understand that video is legit?
>>41024485I don't give a fuck about glow niggers gang stalking me, killing me, torturing me, that's why I post on 4chan fearlessly.
>>41024488So you refuse to answer how many seconds are in that video? Why? And why did you claim its only a split second? Be cause you are insanely disingenuous. Again, how many seconds are in that video and why dont the clouds move?
>>41024491The individual clouds are only in focus for a fraction of a second before the camera moves, and it appears to be a camera on the ground, probably from an aircraft carrier or some kind of boat.
>>41024490I don't either, they don't have the budget for it so it's not a concern for me.
>>41024494You keep saying fraction of a second because you are disingenuous. You refuse to count the seconds because any number proves the video is a fake. I will keep repeating this question to expose you. How many seconds and why dont the clouds move at all?
>>41024503They definitely have the budget for it bro, but based anyway.
>>41024507Dude, the camera pans towards the plane every fraction of a second from an angle from the ground, that's why you don't see cloud movement. You see cloud movement in the video on the left because it is taken from a jet traveling hundreds of miles per hour with less camera movement.
>>41024510How many seconds is the video? Why dont the clouds move at all during this timeframe? Your refusal to answer this question is telling.
>>41024517looks like you win bro
>>41024508They don't have the budget for ME. No idea about you nor do I particularly care.Then again if they did somehow throw money into monitoring me it would be an egregious hole even for government agencies.
>>41024517>>41024531Loser, an anon said you win bro, that was not me. Read my replies and then punch yourself in the face for trying to debunk alien technology that has leaked out to the public. Shame on you both.
>>41024559There you are. How many seconds is the video? Why dont the clouds move during this timeframe?
>it takes hollywood level production to make this video!!!!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zy0q-pF0E2wWhats the next cope? That it was made in 2025? As if that matters? LMAOOOO LETS LAUGH AT THESE GULLIBLE RETARDS
>>41024474>>41024463Stop it, He will never get it, save your Energy for useful stuff.
>>41024560>>41024573>>41024585Imagine making a video off of original footage you see, of course you could kind of replicate it with current human intelligence. That's why a video like that is retarded. What a fucking retard trying to debunk an incredible leaked video of alien technology.
>>41024488No never Stop! You are right, we are doing this for the lurkers here.
>>41024597Based bro. We post for the lurkers hoping the lurkers learn enough to post themselves, that was my journey. I lurked for years before I started posting. Good luck bros!
>>41024591Bingo, it's retarded and thats why they useful idiots will stay useful idiots. This Video was the breaking Point for me. If you Understand the Minimum implications that If they faked that, what they are trying to do, then its still real. Its so Unreal how manx people arent getting why this Video was leaked to break reality, then i cant Help them anymore. Even my wife, with No interest in this stuff was scared while watching this Video, because she knew exactly that the debunkers didnt even grasp the implications of this Video. What i am trying to say is: 1. If the government is faking this Video, then they want to use this framework to Kick Off Something on the 23.9.25 because the numbers are literally everywhere. It will be bigger then 9/112. If this Video is real then, holy Shit, then we have confirmation of the Simulation hypothesis and the electromagnetic universe, because those orbs are Just light vehicles 3. If they Just faked the Video to cover Up the downing of this airplane, because what we see is basically the air defence missile hitting the plane, we Still have the question, why did they shoot a plane down with some scientists (probably). 4. If this whole Thing is Fake, why do you use this Video to Tell the schizos what happenend? Its still a massive wink, because then they know how to use us schizos for pushing Something else, which is still pointing to 23.9.25 And that my friends, is the reason why you know, that this Video is probably the biggest real conspiracy on this god damn Planet.
>>41012998>>514766702You know what's interesting?? I saw a quote once and never forgot it. You ready ?? > If the world is a simulation, than why is my asshole so gdamn hairy ?? It just seems like a waste of the programers time
>>41024585>>41024591>>41024597>>41024603>>41024617How long is the video? Why dont the clouds move?
>>41024632lurker here i would like to know tooits suspicious how that one dude keeps dodging these questions
>>41024591you and that scammer youtuber said it takes hollywood level production better than maverick to make the videosomeone just proved it wrong
>>41024637Bro because Clouds aren't moving If you watch it from large distances ffs. Its Like arguing with idiots. He explained it already. If you watch the skies, higher Clouds aren't moving for minutes from your frame of reference and time. You are discussing Something which is irrelevant.
>>41024632And thats Always the Point with people Like you, you dont want to find a common ground, you Just want to discuss useless arguments to keep everyone on your Level of understanding. You dont need to talk about the realness of Something, you need to talk about the Intent of showing it to the world. But thats probably why you are Stuck in the loop.
>>41024637See >>41024647 >>41024652These grifters can never answer a simple question (how long is the video) because answering simple relevant questions exposes their grift and lies. The lie being "fraction of a second" when anyone can see its at many seconds of clouds not moving (impossible physically). And he even admits that "realness doesnt matter" LMFAO what a fucking scamming pos. Glad I exposed them as the lying schizos they are for lurkers tonight
>>41024647clouds would move after minutes you are smoking crack bro or flunked physics??>>41024661ye i watched the video recreation thingits obviously a professional hoaxer video at the end of the dayalright i can close thread now
>>41024661Kys. You are purposely misunderstanding what I tell you to try to create a better argument. I know how long the video is in seconds, a literal retard could tell you that, why do you care about that so much?
>>41024664Clouds CAN move fast, of course. But If the wind isnt blowing which is normal in Open seas, then the Clouds can be literally stationary. So still, you are trying to prove Something which doesn't need to be proven If you would think about it. But you dont think, you Just try to say, "No Clouds should move in Relation to modern plane speeds, which isnt even logical but i say that to prove that the Videos are Fake." And thats what we are saying, you Just try to prove "its Fake" and maybe we are Just the Same on the other Side, but If you dont want to come to a middle ground which would be the question of "why is this Video leaked to the public" then, i cant Help you anymore.
>>41024669If you know how long the video is then just say it. Refusing to revealed your true intentions to everyone reading the thread, which was my intention. Now go waste another year of your life hoping this video is real and nothing happening. Lmfao. Ill come back whenever I feel like and dunk on retards like you again. I win.
>>41024675its been proven fake alreadytime to move on
>>41024682It's fucking 59 seconds long, what does that have to do with anything? You are a retard skeptic who doesn't care to learn the truths of the Universe. It's your own loss, knowledge is power and you purposefully remain ignorant, that's why your life is so shit. Being ignorant means suffering.
>>41024688Good then, whats the reason to leak it?
>>41024694how do you know its not a hoax?
>>41024691Thats not how the world works dummy. The ones like me asking basic questions are the ones who care the most about the truth. Holy shit you are hilariously retarded.
>>41024691why dont the clouds move in those 59 seconds? are they rocks? or maybe 2d images from stock website?
>>41024699Even If its a hoax, why should someone leak a hoax?
>>41024711Again Clouds aren't moving that fast If there isnt any fucking wind. Jesus, are you even going outside.
>>41023522That's fair. It's definitely a weird one, but the amount of connections shows there's something going on. It's either crazy coincidences, cultures spreading further than we ever gave them credit, or a paranormal faction of sorts.
>>41012998They know which genealogies betray them later, these are the same people ruining it for all of us now. Oh well, just going to wait it out and shun the ones ruining it.
>>41024840go outside and find a cloud that doesnt move for a minute
>>41025464Bro the camera of the global hawk is at 10.000m! I will make a Video later, If i can load it here, you will See what we mean. Unreal how stupid modern Humans are. Basic Logic of reality that things which are further away aren't moving Like things near you.
>>41025464Fuck you, was Standing Like Idiot filming Clouds on a stormy german day. Cant upload it now but it will prove our Point that Clouds further away are perceived as not moving at all
>>41025502>>41025586still no video? remember it has to be 1 minute long
>>41025727Anon, you're talking with a tourist who literally cannot figure out how to post a video on 4chan in 2025. These are the types of retards that think ashton forbes is right and donate to him regularly.
>>41025727You cant Post a Video this Long, its to big
>>41025739Still Not thinking he is right, Just because i think they Videos are real. Thats your bias speaking. He is a glowie which is keeping the masses thinking that the US has this tech.
>>41025727Bro, i am really sorry, i cant send you the Video Here, a normal Phone Video has nowadays 110 MB lol but i will Upload it to a drive because you cant probably do Something Like this by yourself. I mean, watching down some field to See Clouds in the distance (7-10km away) shouldnt be that hard for you. But i have to give it to you, you aren't alone, i asked my Finance Team because i couldnt Understand how you cant say that this simple Point is true, and Most of them needed a prove of non moving Clouds because they couldnt Process that. Humanity is so utterly lost its almost sad.
>>41025765>>41025775>>41025900>cant figure out how to upload videos on 4chanTHESE are the retards on 4chan nowadays?fuck off back to redd.it lmao
>>41024465He explained that the clouds do move, slightly. Thusly, you are a retard without reading comprehension
>>41025920kys 80 IQ redd.itor learn how the site works first
Guys don't worry, there's another Congress hearing next week with more people with stories and 0 evidence We are so close guys
