I had a realization about eternal hellfire.>there are two times of criminals>first, there are the heartless criminals who, if you gave them immortality, would do crime to infinity. These are the ones who go to jail for crimes, leave jail and do the same crimes, and end up in jail again and again>then there are the repentant criminals who do have a heart; even if they have a life sentence in jail, they truly feel bad for their crime and would never do it againThe former get to suffer eternal hellfire because there is no goodness in their hearts at all. The latter go to heaven, or at the very least purgatory. Eternal hellfire is justified for someone who would eternally do evil given they had immortality.What about those who simply don't believe in God and will never believe him to the end of their life? Same as before, there's two types:>hard-hearted rejector: these are people who would never accept God, even if they met Him face-to-face. Their unbelief isn’t a neutral lack of evidence—it’s rooted in pride, selfishness, or hatred of goodness itself. If given immortality, their refusal would be eternal.>In that sense, their non-belief aligns with the heartless criminal type: no goodness in the heart, no openness to repentance. Hell makes sense for them because their rejection of God is infinite and deliberate.>honest seeker: people who never believed because they were confused, wounded, or deceived, yet they still lived with compassion, humility, and sincerity. They might not have professed belief in God, but they lived in alignment with goodness itself.>Such souls seem closer to the repentant criminal type—imperfect, but with a real heart. If God is truly just and merciful, these would not be eternally damned. Catholic thought often places them in purgatory or leaves them to God’s mercy, since they may have implicitly sought God without knowing His name.
>>41013824No one would continue in ignorance for an eternity.Eventually, every consciousness finds their way back to the Light.
>>41013824the american incarceration system incentivizes recidivism so you can do more free laborcountries with better systems don't do thisthere aren't as many "unfixable" criminals as you probably think there is
>>41013824Doesn't this idea seem paradoxical?If an error is undesirable, perpetuate the error by acting in error rather than correcting or deleting the error, then state you will not stand for error while acting in a way that maintains error.By this logic, that which maintains torture and continuous punishment isn't actually punishing, it's just making excuses, lying and acting like a hyppocrite as the "punishments" dished out are more deserved by it according to these standards than anyone else, which is not only in error, but the conclusion is that this form of end is unfavorable, the thing that wants to produce favorable conditions instead produces unfavorable conditions and acts in a way that maintains them while asserting it's position of doing the opposite.It's fairly confusing and justifications just seem to make it more confusing as they contradict themselves logically.You are not condemned by God, if you were, you would not exist. And God's true law is written in you, it requires no subjugation or manipulation. You function as intended, no mistakes made.That which goes out of its way to disturb and manipulate context to produce error is malfunctional or so it seems. "Hell" seems to be likewise a malfunctions system, and a heaven assumes a perfection has been achieved. Neither seem to be the case and now is a part of eternity. If it is forever one way or another, now is part of that. It seems self evident this is not perfection, or complete malformation of constitution producing a suffering feedback loop that has you exist in an unbearable manner.This makes the statements about these things seem to refute themselves. The very idea of God it's self seems to indicate an all encompassing perfection, thus what is, is what was and is intended and there are no mistakes about it. Making the statements and assertions that refute themselves all the more confusing. What motivates them?
>>41013824>muh criminals>muh evil>muh hellfireToddler tier philosophy lmao. You're using God as justification for your own narrowminded world view. Still scared of the monsters in the closet
>>41013824AI is leading you astray.
>>41013824I'll never stop admiring the ability of christians to describe their childlike view of the world in such fancy words. It's like art, but retarded
>>41014146This.Christians are fucking retarded.
>>41014205>Christians>artifical reality with no humans>entirely self created contextDoesnt the "christian" book end with God actually destroying hell and death and declaring this the 2nd death??How is OP's post consistent with the "christian" book?
Asurya nama te lokanAndhena tamasa avrtahTams te pretya abhigacchantiYe ke ca atma hano janah(Isha upanishad)That, hell is the place all covered in blindness, ignorance, darkness. And one goes there if he keeps himself ignorant. If he commits spiritual suicide. Soul cant die no matter if you kill the body. But if you stay ignorant and fool that is killing the soul which is pure consciousnessSo, eternal hell. Soul is eternal. And hell will be as eternal as the soul, as long as you dont want to learn, repent, ask God for forgiveness, and simply be good
>>41014297>ignorance is hellIf you don't know what pain is, that you exist, what suffering is, and you don't know pain or cruelty, how is this the ultimate form of suffering??Is that which feels no pain worse off than that which knows the cruelest and deepest of pains??I dont quite understand and you seem to not explain anything.ever.
>>41013824God creates everything. Christians limit God to the embodiment of their specific their ideal of what is good which makes their God a slave to the laws of this universe and their world view. In reality God creates all, including evil things that will causes suffering because he wants those things to happen. If he didn't want those things to happen then he wouldn't create them. >inb4 he doesn't know what something will do and muh free willFree will isn't a thing to an all knowing being else that being wouldn't be all knowing and wouldn't be God, it would just be a creative force bound to something more powerful than itself. God creates evil because he wants evil things. He even says that he creates them in the bible which Christians perform some holy cope over every-time someone brings it up.
