I want to explore druidry/ovatehood, but it seems like the big druid and pagan groups these days welcome fags and troons. Does /x/ know of any druidic orders or pagan groves that don't encourage degeneracy?Christfags not welcome. Christfag posts in this thread are off-topic and trolling.
Nonfag druidry IS christian by nature of the druid revival starting as an offshoot of the unitarian heresy. The largest current druid order OBOD was a later anglicizing of this welsh bardism by a personal friend of a particular Gerald Gardner. Pretty much every druid order in existence at this point either has a direct lineage to OBOD and by extension Wicca or has been unrecognizably altered due to the orders disproportionate influence indirectly. This influence has directly shaped modern "pagan druidry's" attitudes towards things like sexual degeneracy and politics.
>>41046432>druidry is christian because it's an offshoot>christianity is jewish because it's an offshoot???
>>41046279>Does /x/ know of any druidic orders or pagan groves that don't encourage degeneracy?>walk into woods>find portal or local wizardssimple as
>>41046279This shit died out with the original druids. I wouldn't bother with any modern revivalist groups.
>>41046279The God of the Deep wishes to remain hidden. This is why his cults faded out.
>>41046279>>41046432Christcucks have been an absolute disaster for this board. Grim.
>>41046748>find portal or local wizardsthat's what I'm after man. anyone publicizing their group tends to welcome degens.>>41046759What then? Do research and engage in solo practice?
>>41046279Don't encourage degeneracy? None. Paganism is all about degeneracy. Just accept Christ and start going to church. You seem broken and angry, and I will pray for you,
>>41046279>Don't encourage degeneracy? None. Paganism is all about degeneracy. JThis is actually kinda true , you can't have a stick up your ass and be a true druid / man of nature - its fundamentally a loosey goosey path if you're doing it right , the correct expression would be a Tom Bombadil esque character if you're familiar with that lore. Or a strong but silly Pan (greek god) like character > non fags so you want an ethno pagan experience? Basically celtic ? The realistic answer is live in nature, heal nature and record your observation. If you live with the intent of being a true druid , nature will reveal its secrets to you and what you have to do next.
>>41046279I feel your pain anonThis anon, >>41046432 is essentially correct, the majority of druidic groups can be traced to (or enormously influenced by) the horny idiots who founded Wicca and those idiots were all followers/influenced by Crowley. This was intentional. TPTB knew that people were going to want a Pagan revival and intentionally set up Crowley as a corrupted bridge between BS Abrahamic Occult practices (Golden Dawn, Rosicrucianism, Hermitic Alchemy, Kabbalah, Free Masonry, etc) and the resurgence of "Witchcraft". I truly pity the young girls who step into an Occult bookstore hoping to find out how to be Pagan and find regurgitated Crowley.My only real advice is to connect to Pagan Deity's directly and seek their help.
>>41046279I hear you are supposed to be raised with two other druids and have complimentary and overlapping skills. Also at least two of you should learn each thing in case one dies, so that it can be passed on. We have books and youtube now tho.
>>41047073Pagan deities? You mean demons who will only harm you and ruin you?
>>41047064>so you want an ethno pagan experience? Basically celtic?Sure. I mean, I'm not gonna bash fertility gatherings, smoking weed, and making animal sacrifices (if done correctly). I just don't think anyone wants to put up with trannies, or any other group that pushes their ideology on unconsenting people and has a concerning interest with doing so to children.>>41047073>connect to Pagan Deity's directlyI've been praying to Silvanus before nature outings and making a sacrifice to him once per week. Are you pagan/left-hand path? What do you do?>>41047075This was helpful. Thank you.
>>41047032Yeah do solo practice and ask the diety or nature or whatever the fuck it is druids do to teach you and initiate you. Get gud then once you're gud you magnetize real ones. Idk how it works but it does. Stay away from public groups those people have no fuckin idea what theyre doing if you take the solo path and develop well enough youll cross a threshold where real ones meet you by circumstance and then the real magic begins.
>>41047108>I just don't think anyone wants to put up with trannies, or any other group that pushes their ideology on unconsenting people and has a concerning interest with doing so to children.I know what you mean , like the redditors that turn a god into something that "kills fascists" or overly politicizing what should be a spiritual affair. It defeats the whole purpose. But what you're doing by framing it as degeneracy is no better , these are right wing talking points. Be on the side of nature and say "fuck all of you, im out" , a true druid is a rather solitary individual so I don't know why you're looking for groups, the birds are your companyTrust the process if you are serious, trust that nature will show you what to do.
>>41047076My God's are real and yours is the imposter Christcuck.>>41047108I am not "left-handed path" as I believe that is also a subversion (I personally believe it is a Masonic interpretation of Matthew 6:3), and am a Norse/Germanic Pagan. I am not officially "Asatru" or "Heathen" or whatever as like you I have found the "official" groups lacking and overly influenced by the current culture wars (on both sides).
>>41047134Solid. Thanks man.
>>41047141dont mention it , good luck
I've been looking into Druidry because I had a synchronicity when searching for a practice to dedicate myself to. There are two issues with Druidry that you'll come across. The first is that many of the genuine traditions are dead, and have been dead for hundreds of years. This wouldn't usually be an issue for me, since I tend to follow the mantra of 'do what works' rather than follow a tradition perfectly (and I'm fine with reconstructing knowledge), if it wasn't for the second issue. Which is that almost all modern Druidry communities are centered around cultural practices and rejection of Christianity (don't get me wrong I also reject Christianity, just not enough to join a theater group about it), rather than any real belief in the spiritual side of being a Druid. Even communities that are focused on spiritual practices are overwhelming joined by people who do it for the aesthetics.These aren't issues for anyone wanting to practice alone, but it makes finding a grove almost impossible in my experience. Although this issue exist for basically all occult practices, Druidry especially has a strong cultural heritage element that people want to participate for.
>>41047230So I'm gathering that starting a "grove" of my own is probably the best bet. Good news I guess; that was always sort of the plan. My big idea is to put together a "veterinary EMT" training program and build an animal sanctuary on a patch of land. Eventually I want to instruct other people in the craft so they can help injured animals, and incorporate other nature stewardship practices into the program.
>>41047309How about you join a fucking church???
>>41046724>>41047026I bet you've never even heard of the Trioedd Pawl
1. Establish a functional Weltanschaaung which was in practice thousand years ago2. Find archetypal God(s) embodying this3. Make a covenantGiven there's almost no one worthy doing this, your chances of getting noticed are relatively high.
>>41047376I haven't. Like I said, I'm exploring. Care to share?
>>41047110Hey, fuckface. If you're gonna respond to posts meant for other people, preface it with NTA>>41047032>Do researchNothing wrong with studying anything. Not sure how much actually reliable resources you'd be able to scratch up on druids.>engage in solo practiceYou'd be largely making up your own shit from various other sources and speculating what the druids may or may not have practiced. Maybe there'd be some success in that, but I don't know. UPG larpers are a thing after all.
>>41046279he's just like me fr
>>41047064is putting a stick up your arse part of a pagan ceremony?
>>41046279I'd love to help you with this. What's your background in terms of religion and the occult?
>>41048814Christian until 2013, atheist with philosophical taoism until very recently. As far as the occult, not much unfortunately. When I was little, I would carve various tikis out of wood and hold small ceremonies for things (sacrificing pieces of sausage so the Weather Tiki would make it rain, sacrificing a pill bug so the Bush Tiki would make the mosquitoes go away, etc.) That's about it.
>>41046279I cannot know of such a thing if my naivete includes your definition of these things
>>41046279Seems like the most important thing one can do for spiritual awakening in this regard is to pair it with the skills you can develop, from tasks you have taken from the numina (I'm the Jungian sense). I genuinely don't believe that old orders have much to offer us, if you're a man under a certain age like 30-35. They are all gay race communists, even the well-meaning ones, spiritually speaking.