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ASK me anything about hinduism and I'll answer.
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>>41062740
why are you eating shit?
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>>41062740
Is Krishna the same as Christ? Not necessarily Jesus, like the Christ-consciousness, is that Lord Krishna?
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>>41062763
I don't do it, but the reason it happens out in indian areas is because Cow shit is traditionlly used as a medicinal compound.
However, the problem, is that the reason it was medicinal was due to the ancient environment of pre-colonial SEA (especially india). IE, it was the natural diet of local plants that they had.
Alot of hindus will still do this (especially the rural ones), but the problem is that the cows no longer are eating natural diets. The environment is so polluted that the medicinal benefits of the local indian cow species products (dairy, bodily excretions, etc) is little to nothing.
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>>41062740
how do you see jesus and Mohamed i saw some claim they are reincarnation of demons
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are Shankaracharyas the most respected leaders of hinduism (puri, kanchi, etc)? for example pic related -photo not mine tho-, or the current Puri one. However there are at least 4 disputes about WHICH of all possible gurus is the real Shankaracharya of some of the 4 Maths...a sort of "dharmic sedevacantism"
do Naga Sadhus really live 24\7 in extreme wilderness (jungle, desert, caves)? or was that only in ancient era?
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>>41062815
NTA but the Holy Ghost told me there were two Jesuses, the first was Jesus Christ and nobody knows about him, he didn't die. Krishna told me the second was Madhu and he came to stop the real Jesus Christ from spreading the true religion of the yuga. That one was crucified, which is why Allah said one was made to look like him who was crucified
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>>41062806
If you find yourself a little sceptical about the medicinal benefits, the logic functions similarly to how Siberian shamans drank reindeer piss.
Just like how the reindeer made the Amanita fungus change into something safe to consume, the diet of the cow species in india took various medicinal plants and compounded them into something more potent.
>>41062792
Uhhhh depends. If you're a Vaishnava? Yes.
The "christ consciousness" thing was honestly made as a reaction largely to eastern thought, kind of deviantart recolour of the end goal of bhakti.
That said the christ consciousness thing has some historical precedent in emanationism doctrine.
Anyway, if christ is legitimate, he would be subsumed in vaishnavism as an emanation of visnu. Thus christ consciousness= krsna/visnu consciousness.
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>>41062865
So then would Jesus be an Avatar of Krishna or an Avatar of Vishnu?
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>>41062815
Well, there were christians and muslims in india for a while that got heavily hinduized, before the british showed up.
Personally? I think jesus was a local rabbi in his home country who tried his best to restore the jubilee and bring about a new kingdom for the people of israel.
He tried to be a world conquerer is my thought.
I think he had some sort of siddhis, but that he failed in his task.
Mohammed? Reformer for christianity in the medean area, which became a new religion itself when he was rejected by the christians.
Theres a purana that (some) hindus believe in which states something along the lines that mohammed had been a shiva devotee in a past life who asked for the power to start a new religion. Either way, it doesn't matter, both of them were wrong about many many things.
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>>41062904
Wow you're really cool, I never noticed the Mohammad/Shiva connection. Wrath of God and all
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>>41062876
krishna = vishnu
So it would be assumed jesus is an avatar of visnu.
>>41062830
>are Shankaracharyas the most respected leaders of hinduism (puri, kanchi, etc)? for example pic related -photo not mine tho-, or the current Puri one.
they are OKAY. the big problem with them is that they keep getting taken over by the post-colonial state in order to exacerbate nationalism in bharat.
This is problematic, as it kills the actual religion and sets them up as enemies against the tribals, the abrahamics and the non hindu sects.
>However there are at least 4 disputes about WHICH of all possible gurus is the real Shankaracharya of some of the 4 Maths...a sort of "dharmic sedevacantism"
yeahhh, this is generally a problem with hinduism modernly. Things have gotten fucky in a lot of ways. Same reason why new avatara are not being located.
>do Naga Sadhus really live 24\7 in extreme wilderness (jungle, desert, caves)? or was that only in ancient era?
Some do! If they're real, anyway. Lot of scammers in modern india larp as naga sadhus and as aghori's. Alot of the ones you see on the tv or on the streets are total fakes.
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Please make me have a net worth of at least 80 million USA dollars and a net worth worth also worth at least one ton of at least 22 karat gold in 2026 A.D. for at least 4 consecutive months in this universe timeline and worldline.
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>>41062928
dhanyavaad _/\_
Yeah, Shiva isn't evil (obviously) but it's plausible considering some of the elements of islam (the djinn, the black rock, the early asceticism of muhammed...other stuff there too).
>>41062967
Ehhh? this is a thread to ask questions about hinduism, not ask for prayers.
If you wanna get rich, pray to laksmi or ganesa. People love Ganes for a reason
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>>41062992
What's your advice to a Buddhist about the Bhagavad-Gita's alternative practice sacrificing the ingoing breath to the outgoing and the reverse? And also if the statement that renunciation is approximately equal to yoga but slightly inferior, and also the idea that some people practice this practice of stopping all breathing (sacrificing breath)? Do you think it bears advice to Buddhists? Or is the sacrifice of breath a peculiarly Hindu practice. Sorry for format, lazy
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>>41062865
This is actually interesting, thank you Hindu anon. It actually makes sense if you think about it, considering so many things in the Golden Age were used to make one's living, that today are seen as useless or disgusting. In my country, back then they used to make houses out of cow dung, clay and straws, into a sticky quite resistant cement-like material which was then plastered on a wooden frame.
Also things like washing clothes in piss, or using piss as disinfectant.
And honey wax is basically bee vomit.
And on and on and on, many things in the Golden Age are being completely forgotten now, but I'll tell you humanity was way better back when they lived closer to the natural world.
I never blamed the pajeets for eating cow dung by the way, I've had an inkling that it must be some half forgotten Golden Age tradition which had degenerated into what is today merely a afterthought.
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>>41063147
Man, people in this era are so lazy.
If you have arms, legs and can type online, you can pray to Ganes.
It's better to do things yourself when you can.
1. Set up an altar to Ganes.
2. Look at his image until it's burned in your memory, then sit down and meditate on the memory of his image, imagining that this is really him.
3. Incorporate one of his names as a mantra to keep you focused on his image.
Rinse, lather, repeat.
Before every time you meditate on Ganes, start it off with a sankalpa (vow). Make it simple and directly related to what you want.
Formula goes "by the power of this practice may (thing i want)."
After you're done, offer things appropriate to the deity.
Or do 16 step puja. Just make sure to do it "Mindfully".
>>41063147
>What's your advice to a Buddhist about the Bhagavad-Gita's alternative practice sacrificing the ingoing breath to the outgoing and the reverse?
This already exists in buddhism, there's buddhist who sacrifice not only the breath but every action they do to the buddhas/bodhisattvas
>And also if the statement that renunciation is approximately equal to yoga but slightly inferior,
Point of this isn't to say asceticism bad (not accusing you of believing that!) but to point out the thing that makes asceticism work is yoga. If you aren't meditating and being mindful, you can do all the asceticism you want, it won't do much.
By setting them as equal with yoga being higher, it sets up the importance of being a yogi in everything you do.
>and also the idea that some people practice this practice of stopping all breathing (sacrificing breath)?
This isn't about stopping the breath artificially. This is about two things;
turning breathing into a sacrifice for the god(s)
The result of pranayama (sensation of breathing stops on it's own naturally).
(con)
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>>41063315
> Do you think it bears advice to Buddhists? Or is the sacrifice of breath a peculiarly Hindu practice. Sorry for format, lazy
Both traditions have pranayama and a concept of sacrificing actions to the divine.
Is usable for buddhists.
>>41063309
>This is actually interesting, thank you Hindu anon. It actually makes sense if you think about it, considering so many things in the Golden Age were used to make one's living, that today are seen as useless or disgusting.
No problem and yes, exactly! Same thing happened in india. Down to using the excreta in building and washing.
>And on and on and on, many things in the Golden Age are being completely forgotten now, but I'll tell you humanity was way better back when they lived closer to the natural world.
yeah things were better. Don't get me wrong-ready access to medicine is great, but western medicine is so hampered by its ideas of eugenics that it completely tanks itself over and over again.
Things are getting more and more distant, people talk about the ayurveda but very few people understand it. Ayurveda was a different modality for medicine- it was open to change and evolution. It just revolved around the core concept that mind, body & personality all affect health. Which we know even by western science as it evolves, is just flat out true.
Now we have all these people who don't understand anything about ayurveda and treat it as something which must stay static and never change.
>I never blamed the pajeets for eating cow dung by the way, I've had an inkling that it must be some half forgotten Golden Age tradition which had degenerated into what is today merely a afterthought.
I get you, and like you said, it is kinda gross. Modern people don't know or remember what life was like in the golden age.
It's unfortunate that the practice degenerated so much modernly. Alot of practices in hinduism/india are distorted or forgotten.
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>>41063315
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>>41063053
this here.
>>41063425
The golden age had alot going to it that people don't remember, they focus overly on the bad shit.
You could roll up from africa to india and mostly get along while talking about life. Then fuck off to greece and buy some good food for a couple drachma while you argued with the philosophers.
Go back home, hey it's the ravana festival. Time to make a celebration to remind political leaders you'll kill them if they become tyrants. Tyrants come and go fast, most leaders are alright. There are public parks and water infrastructure everywhere, lots of shady places to rest. You go walk in the forest for a bit after the festival, there's so many trees that the heat is never too horrible, and the sun never too oppressive.
When you're done, go home, which is built in a way that impacts you psychologically in a positive way.
Chill with your spouse and listen to the twinkling bells and smell the clean air, with a gentle scent of rain touching it.
Shit was cozy and it's basically gone now.
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>>41063315
Thanks. In the Dharma sacrifice you sacrifice the Dharma to the Dharma or Tathagata. By Tathagata we mean the root of Ultimate Reality (Dharmata) or thus-likeness. If you realize the oneness of the Dharma and the thus-like, you turn the wheel of the Dharma. That is the Dharma-sacrifice.

I was wondering about this peculiar practice of sacrificing the breath in meditation, and whether it preempted Buddhism, but you answered in a broader way which made me better understand the role of sacrifice in my practice.

Take this, from the Vimalakirti Sutra:
>"'The Dharma-sacrifice consists of the transcendence of generosity, which is consummated in peacefulness and self-discipline; of the transcendence of morality, which is consummated in the moral development of immoral beings; of the transcendence of tolerance, consummated through the principle of selflessness; of the transcendence of effort, consummated in initiative toward enlightenment; of the transcendence of meditation, consummated in the solitude of body and mind; and of the transcendence of wisdom, consummated in the omniscient gnosis.
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>>41062740
Absolute fastest way to obtain moksha/liberation urgent time sensitive please reply with utmost haste
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>>41063589
1. Generate good karma of mouth/body/mind. No more calling people names, no more gossiping, no more intoxicants (drinking/smoking/etc), no harming creatures & humans [unless absolutely neccessary].
2. Pick a deity of your choosing, perform bhakti meditation to them 24/7. Every. Day. When you're not sitting, maintain mindfulness all day and chant their name mentally or outloud all. Day. Do this continuously, until your mind begins to recite the name on it's own. Then tune into that and meditate on it.
3. Start every day of formal bhakti meditation with a sankalpa "may this action help me to achieve moksha in this life".
Bhakti is the "easy path".
Pick up the Yoga Sutra by Patanjali and read further for more ideas if you decide you don't like bhakti.
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>>41062815
>Krishna was much more powerful than islam and christ because krishna was the drive to create almost all other sects of spirituality.
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>>41063713
Actually, just read the Yoga Sutras in general. It will give you the most direct information on moksha here and now.
If you want it fast? Pick a deity and devote yourself to them.
Some further guidelines;
1. DO A PUJA. PUJA PUJA PUJA. Give offerings! Make sure they're appropriate. This isn't just there for fun- it generates good karma.
2. Don't pick a deity that is "cool". Pick the deity that suits your temperments best.
If you want it "extra fast" learn kundalini https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/41007695/#q41009172 i wrote something up here that is useful for people who wanna learn it. Just don't be stupid and maintain morality. No killing/lying/gossiping/intoxicants/stealing. No rape or gooning at MINIMUM (best is to retain you coom for kundalini practice.)
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>>41063565
_/\_
No problem. Always happy to help.
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>If humans had copper in their collagen instead of iron, their blood would be bluish-lilac, not red. This is because human hemoglobin contains iron, which gives blood its red color, and animals with blue blood (like mollusks and spiders) contain a copper-containing protein called hemocyanin.
They are reptiles, ALL of them.
All intelligent reptiles are related to copper
That's why they have blue skin and blue blood
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>>41062904
>>41062928
Samefag
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>>41062740
why those gods didn't talk about hygiene?
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>>41065020
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>>41063589
Not the OP but the Kali Santarana Upanishad, as well as the teachings of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu states the chanting of the names of Sriman Narayana is the most effective way to acceove moksha for people living in Kali Yuga, specifically the mantra Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare (the version from the actual Vedic Scripture is reversed from the one the mainstream hare krishnas/iskcon use)

The mantras "Om Namo Narayana" and "Aum Narayanaya vidmahi Vasudevaya Dhimani Tano Vishnu Prachodayat" are also extremely effective.

Here's a screenshot of the upanishad which is the first recorded source of the maha mantra. It's Vedic and authentic don't let the pop culture image of wacky cult hare krishna devotees pan handling in airports deter you from a sure fire number one recommended method for moksha. It's the only redeeming thing about the Kali Yuga is that you can get moksha just by chanting and remembering Lord Sriman Narayana's names
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more like hindon't.

Jesus Christ is Lord. He is Risen.
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Is masturbation a sin in Hinduism?
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>>41062740
idk how thread related it is, but why are modern indians so spiritually empty? For a people that done so much spiritual development, they seem to have regressed greatly.
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>>41062792
Depends sort of.
At the highest level, all deities are emanations of the One God.
At a lower level, the energy and heaven of Krisha is different from the energy and heaven of Jesus.

But it was good marketing to boomers.
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>>41065067
>he version from the actual Vedic Scripture is reversed from the one the mainstream hare krishnas/iskcon use)
why?
Is this a mistake?
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>>41065179
It's because of nondual philosophy.
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>>41062865
Dude Eastern thought can't even exist without Christ GTFO that shit

Worship the Lord
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnsLPlBmeX8
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meRtMONFUhk
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>>41065233
No not a mistake, the story goes the Brahmins where angry that Chaitanya was teaching sudras and dalits (the lowest castes) a mantra from the Vedas which was strictly forbidden only for the elites to know (like how in Europe the Bible was in Latin and only the priest was allowed to own and read it, pretty sure the first few people who tried translating and mass printing the Bible where horribly executed but I digress). so anyways yeah it was reversed to make them back off. A political reason really. Chaitanya believed it was meant for everyone to know and challenged the caste system that only the Brahmins where worthy to speak to God and gian moksha.

I suggest following the Vedic version if you want to be orthodox as possible but the hare Krishna first is fine too. The whole point of japa meditation is to get into a constant flow to where your mind does it on its own, so worrying about which one first after you chant your first round is like worrying if you stepped into a river left or right foot first instead of just swimming.

Here is a video from a guy with a PHD in Vedic studies who was also in ISKCON for many years explaining the exact history. Only 12 minutes long and pretty interesting https://youtu.be/NtiVRLy7f_I?si=_zNx_uC0ywLZ0tas
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>>41062740
Is your third-eye open?
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>>41062740
You've talked Christianity and Islam, but what about biblical Judaism, meaning the books of Moses and so on, but particularly the books of Moses? What is the relationship with Hindu?
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>>41065023
What? They did, a good portion of the old rituals during the upanishadic era are all about physical hygiene. Alot of the rituals have to do with bathing and staying clean. Excluding some of the weirder ascetic practices.
>>41065173
No.
Some modern weirdos will say yes, but it's not. Before colonialism, indian religion was very open about the fact that sex and sexuality happens. Jerking off isn't a sin.
That said, it can be seen as unhelpful depending on your goal.
>>41065179
1. India is greatly impoverished because of corruption.
2. Britain is still fucking with india to this day behind the scenes.
3. India has not recovered from the impact of the british raj.
Colonialism is a hell of a drug.
When the british came into India, alot of work was put into attempting to destroy indian religion. I see alot of contemporary hindus who get mad about the mughals, and they were brutal, but more damage was done by britain than the muslims. That should say ALOT when you know about the history of islamic invasions in india. The muslims never tried to rewrite hindu texts to forcefully convert them. The british did (See the "liberation shastras" controversy).
The british were successful with destroying hindu education in many regards, much of traditional hinduism has been lost and is completely not understood by the general population. So telling what temples (primarily in the cities) are real and what ones are scams, is hard for someone not learned.
So the average indian is kinda grasping at straws. They're too poor, uneducated and just plain downtrodden to get a chance at something.
The best the average indian gets normally is the pujas he has preserved in his home area.
See the issue?
This is partially why indians diagnose this era as the kali yug.
>>41065458
ehhh? this is not a hinduism question, saar.
I don't claim my ajna is open. I do have some talents, but it is not my place to discuss that sort of thing.
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>>41065627
plz answer
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Can you reccomend some good texts on anga vidya?(preferrably translated into english, although sanskrit is fine) Mostly interested in face reading or palmistry. Ive been reading from european and chinese sources, but euro is derivative of veda anyway, and chinese is too alien, too difficult to understand for me
Greatly appreciated
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>>41065627
Well, Judaism in the past was a monolatrous religion. It still more or less is, when you ignore the media rabbis who harp on and on about monotheism.
The monolatry is something that puts it in common with (some) sects of hindu dharma.
This is further made apparent by a few things;
1. The jews have historically always had an animist bent to them. This is recorded in the current popular text collection for them- the talmud. Ever read that thing? Sages are talking to animals, trees, rivers, nature spirits, planets. They talk back too. This is shared in common with hindus.
2. Second temple judaism's monolatry acknowledges the existence of other gods, but puts Yahweh in front before them. This is similar to how some clans in india work.
3. Judaic mysticism is emanationist in nature. This is the belief that god "emanates" out into existence. This allows for a process of people to "become god" through prayer and religious observance. It should be obvious, but this is nearly 1 to 1 for yoga.
4. Abundance of nature spirits/lesser deities who may or may not follow a variety of their own religions.
5. Both are orthopraxy religions, not orthodoxies.
I don't wanna peel into the pentateuch too much, but what I can say is that moses is generally considered by some hindus to have been the sage for the jews. Some regard him as having been taught by Saraswati and Visnu.
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>>41066042
i DON'T believe there's any direct connection, beyond just sharing the generally same shape asian religions have had.
That said, is worth noting, jewish youth are continuously wanting to return to their pagan past. Semitic neopaganism in places like israel is getting more popular. You've also got alot of jews who are holding both judaism and a dharmic religion at the same time.
Good on them, i bless and honour their efforts to obtain a good life.
>>41065925
Not an area im very familiar with, but have you tried Indunath Sharma's book?
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>>41065313
I love krishnacore, scratches a deep itch inside of me. 108 was so cool.
Wish this could've branched out more, would be cool to see more dharmic bands. Wonder what life would have been like if we got a krsnacore band with a sound more similar to something like my chemical romance.
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>>41066042
>I don't wanna peel into the pentateuch too much
I'm a (stumbling) Mosaic Israelite rather than a Rabbinical Jew, so this is where my deepest interests are. The stuff after the laws of Moses are given are pretty much all mired in the interference of foreign gods and cultures. Mosaic Law is the root, so that's my interest.

Saras and Vis, these two are one or two? Our approach is singular ONE god but I want to dig deeper in your knowledge if you are willing.
>holding both judaism and a dharmic religion at the same time
This is a belief I share, that our actions do accumulate karmic debt between lifetimes and we are here to remedy the failures between them. Mysticism leans into this, and I was raised around buddhists.
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>>41066104
What is the fastest and safest way to achieve the kundalini?



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