I think there really are a great many powerful arguments against Catholicism. Dustin Crummett https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEKpYouT1wU has a good video going over some of the problems, but to summarize some of the issues:1 Catholics are committed to a really implausible view https://wollenblog.substack.com/p/catholic-sexual-morality-a-new-theory about sexual ethics, according to which homosexuality, masturbation, and contraception are immoral on account of being intrinsically disordered. The backdrop natural law view that this relies on is about as implausible as any view in all of philosophy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPen831EkYg2 They’re similarly committed to a categorical prohibition on lying. This is insane! Lying is great and you should do it all the time! https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/the-lowdown-on-lying
>>41069104All "isms" and institutions are false. They are at best corrupt exoteric shells that protect the precious mystics within.
>>410691043 Catholics probably have to believe in an eternal hell, which strikes me as very implausible. https://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2020/08/popes-creeds-councils-and-catechisms.html https://benthams.substack.com/p/should-believers-in-eternal-hell?utm_source=publication-search https://benthams.substack.com/p/universalism-a-comprehensive-defense?utm_source=publication-search https://benthams.substack.com/p/why-i-disagree-with-gavin-ortlund?utm_source=publication-search4 Catholics are committed to scriptural inerrancy. https://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2020/08/popes-creeds-councils-and-catechisms.html I think the bible is riddled with clear errors concerning morality (e.g. pretty much the entire book of Joshua, stuff about slavery), authorship (it seems to affirm the false doctrine of mosaic authorship), and more. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe1tMOs8ARn3Uy9dvxyqhBvEldBgkqtN5 When reading the Bible, it seems riddled with nutty holdovers of a barbaric and prescientific age, as well as contradictions and duplicate stories. https://benthams.substack.com/p/50-lifetimes-to-babylon?utm_source=publication-search https://benthams.substack.com/p/why-im-not-a-christian?utm_source=publication-search
>>410691325 Catholics must believe in divine simplicity which I think is very implausible https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhke5_tk6N0 (it might be that they can believe some more watered down version of it, but various authoritative teachings seemed to have in mind a more aggressive version of the doctrine).6 The Catholic Church in Exsurge domine https://www.papalencyclicals.net/leo10/l10exdom.htm which I think there’s a good case to be made for Catholics being infallibly committed to because of a bit at the end which I’ll include in a footnote 2—condemned as an error Martin Luther’s notion “That heretics be burned is against the will of the Spirit.” But plainly this is not an error if Christianity is true! I know there’s some controversy about whether exsurge domine is infallible, so I don’t want to make it the main point in my case, but it’s at least something of a problem for Catholicism.2"For, according to these errors, or any one or several of them, it clearly follows that the Church which is guided by the Holy Spirit is in error and has always erred. This is against what Christ at his ascension promised to his disciples (as is read in the holy Gospel of Matthew):“I will be with you to the consummation of the world”; it is againstthe determinations of the holy Fathers, or the express ordinances andcanons of the councils and the supreme pontiffs. Failure to complywith these canons, according to the testimony of Cyprian, will be thefuel and cause of all heresy and schism. With the advice and consentof these our venerable brothers, with mature deliberation on each andevery one of the above theses, and by the authority of almighty God,the blessed Apostles Peter and Paul, and our own authority, wecondemn, reprobate, and reject completely each of these theses orerrors as either heretical, scandalous, false, offensive to pious earsor seductive of simple minds, and against Catholic truth.
>>41069153By listingthem, we decree and declare that all the faithful of both sexes mustregard them as condemned, reprobated, and rejected . . . We restrainall in the virtue of holy obedience and under the penalty of anautomatic major excommunication."This seems to meet the requirements for an Ex Cathedra statements which are nicely summarized by Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility#:~:text=the%20Roman%20Pontiff%20(the%20Pope,is%20outside%20the%20Catholic%20Church.According to the teaching of the First Vatican Council https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Vatican_Council and Catholic tradition, the conditions required for ex cathedra papal teaching are as follows:[12]1 the Roman Pontiff (the Pope alone or with the College of Bishops) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_of_Bishops2 speaks ex cathedra – that is, when (in the discharge of his office as shepherd and teacher of all Christians, and by virtue of his supreme apostolic authority) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostles_in_the_New_Testament he defines a doctrine:A. concerning faith or morals, andB. To be held by the whole Church.The terminology of a definitive decree usually makes clear that this last condition is fulfilled, as through a formula such as "By the authority of Our Lord Jesus Christ and of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul, and by Our own authority, We declare, pronounce and define the doctrine [...] to be revealed by God and as such to be firmly and immutably held by all the faithful," or through an accompanying anathema https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema stating that anyone who deliberately dissents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissent is outside the Catholic ChurchArticle linked here https://benthams.substack.com/p/the-miracle-of-catholicism#_
>>410691537 As my friend Gavin Ortlund argues persuasively, https://www.amazon.com/What-Means-Be-Protestant-Always-Reforming/dp/0310156327 Catholic teachings about Mary and icons don’t go back to the apostles and were made up hundreds of years later. The Catholic Church claims only the authority to interpret and develop scripture and apostolic teachings, not make up entirely new teachings out of whole cloth—so if these teachings are made up later, as the historical record seems to suggest, that’s a big problem for Catholicism. Similar things seem true of the Papacy, but I haven’t looked into that one as much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG6pnAjHX1k8 It also seems like Catholic Church teaching on whether there’s salvation outside the Church and usury has flipped. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra_Ecclesiam_nulla_salus
>>41069126whoa hold on anon, what you're doing is skepticism!you've created a meta-stable self-referential critique of meaning-making and there are no containment procedures!
>>41069104Go away Gay Dyer.
>>41069201Orthodox is false too
>>41069104Didn't read your drivel, but as a matter of fact, every religion is false. Not the myth aspect, but any doctrine whatsoever.
>>41069104 Christainanity is False.
>>41069104Let me remind you that according to Catholics, masturbation was a sin, but burning people at the stake for alleged witchcraft was not. That's the whole point.
>>41069738why's that
Bump
>>41069104Cucktholics or Catholicucks? KEK
