Left hand pathists (western) do actually have a good point in that integrating the shadow side is important, but they forget to realize that it is utterly stupid and pointlessly destructive to ‘integrate’ yourself in the qilphoth (and I mean you can’t really integrate into the qilphoth in the same way as the Tree of Life since the Qilphoth isn’t simply the reverse Tree of Life, it’s what the Tree of Life rejects, that’s why they are shells and also why it’s the Tree of Death - it’s what’s in the process of being rejected from Life) if you aren’t going to integrate that back into the Tree of Life. The qilphothic being aren’t your friends first of all, they are demons, they do what they do because they are desperate to exist but at the very bottom of things they are senseless meaningless nonsense so they can’t really fully exist. Treating them with empathy and compassion is one important thing that you must do, but blindly trusting them when they are desperate to ‘embody’ without purpose or meaning is another. It’s literally trying to make yourself brainrot, you are trying to make yourself Dubai choclate Labubu, just senseless nonsense. Yes God is found in the qilphoth as much as the Tree of life, as the Qilphoth is the embodiment of God’s darkest most chaotic feminine Tiamat nature, but from my understanding it’s essentially what God uses to filter himself out in Creation. These rejected aspects of God become self-obsessed, without purpose or will but a desire to be or embody.
>>41071685Wouldn't "integration" into it just be dissolution? lol
>>41071700no.
>>41071714How do you figure? Trying to integrate into a hollow shell rooted in the lack of God is dissolution.
>>41071726it isn't a "lack of God", it is a dualistic set of principles set in opposition to God's mandates on earth. it also isn't a "hollow shell", it is "the opposite side of coin no one should entertain because of the mere implications of the existence of said side".also, before someone starts to kvetch, im not defending dualism/qliphothic principles, im merely helping people understand.
>>41071685Shadow integration has nothing to do with the left-hand path? And it’s not “integration” at all. It’s about recognition, recognizing the evil within yourself so you can control it. A lot of our actions come from the subconscious, and that’s part of the shadow. You have to know where it is, know yourself. And to truly know yourself, since we live in duality, you also have to know the evil inside you. But it’s not to integrate it or follow it. It’s to control it.Now about the Qliphoth: they are not the inverted Tree of Life. Each Sefirah corresponds to a Midah, a positive trait. Like Chesed, which is love or compassion. But when that love is out of balance, too much or too little, it becomes a Qliphah. The Qliphoth are distortions of the Sefirot, they’re the shells on the side, not the inverse. They show up in the realm of Da’at, the knowledge of good and evil. And that’s not a differente tree, outside or below the Tree of Life. It’s within the Tree of Life.Also: the Qliphoth are not demons. That whole demon thing is a distortion of Kabbalah from westerners. Qliphoth are impurities of the Midot, either in excess or in deficiency. And when we talk about this in real life, it means your inner traits, your Midot, have to be refined. You need to know where the good and evil are, where the boundaries lie. So those Sefirot can stay as Midot, refined qualities, and not turn into Qliphoth, distorted impure versions.
>>41071785>Shadow integration has nothing to do with the left-hand path?sorry, this was not a question.>Shadow integration has nothing to do with the left-hand path.
>>41071785> It’s about recognition, recognizing the evil within yourself so you can control it.That’s literally what integration is
>>41071685you'd have to be blessed to be able to come out the Otherside without getting ravaged but too many get into the van for candy
>>41071811Alright, thanks for explaining that. When I read it, I thought what was being said was more like making the evil your own and that acting from it didn’t matter, that’s the part I was rejecting.
>>41071811control is not integration. control is dominance, rule of power, authority.integration is agreement, teamwork, acceptance in and of both sides.in relation to this conversation, such "integration" is impossible for humans, understanding, and the false construct of said control, are the only two paths.
>>41071814wait, but aren't you the one doing the 'ravagin'
>>41071821>in relation to this conversation, such "integration" is impossible for humans, understanding, and the false construct of said control, are the only two paths.exactly.Within the tree of life, the integration of this “evil” happens in Yesod. And why Yesod? Why not Tiferet or Da’at? It should be Da’at, since that’s the knowledge of good and evil, supposedly. But no, it happens in Yesod. Why? Because Yesod represents the moon. And the moon, as we know, has no light of its own, it reflects the light of the sun. The sun is Tiferet. So the ego, which pulls toward the material, toward material survival, and that’s why it’s not inherently bad, is something that allows us to exist and live within duality. It’s a crucial part. But it’s a weapon. And like any weapon, a knife for example, you can use it to cook or to kill. The same applies to the ego. It can "kill" your soul or it can elevate it. That’s exactly why understanding is needed. That’s why it’s called the foundation. It’s the first step. If there’s no knowledge of the inner sea, the internal darkness, you can’t go forward.Then you have Hod, the word, which can be deception, but also truth. And Netzach, more influenced by emotion, so sentimentality, but also art. These two Sefirot, depending on how they are balanced, will either help deepen your understanding of Yesod, the ego, or do the opposite, inflate it. So yes, just like you said. And the only solution is control.Actually, over the last couple of weeks, the weekly Parashot we’ve had, if taken literally, will probably clash with your point of view of what or who is God. For whoever is interested, these are very beautiful Parashot from a spiritual perspective. Last week we had Ki Teitzei, and this week it’s Ki Tavo. And they’re talking about exactly this, about removing evil from your midst.
>>41071867"Within the tree of life, the integration of this “evil” happens in Yesod. And why Yesod? Why not Tiferet or Da’at? It should be Da’at, since that’s the knowledge of good and evil, supposedly. But no, it happens in Yesod. Why? Because Yesod represents the moon. And the moon, as we know, has no light of its own, it reflects the light of the sun. The sun is Tiferet."I want to clarify: saying that “within the Tree of Life, the integration of this evil happens in Yesod” is very superficial. It’s not that simple. The sefirot aren’t independent or isolated; they form a system of emanation from the Ein Sof. The sefirot serve as vessels or channels through which divine energy flows. Yesod is one of those sefirot in the “lower” emotional/functional chain, not purely intellectual like Chokmah/Binah. Cordovero describes Yesod as the foundation, a channel that transmits the energies of the higher sefirot toward Manifestation, the kingdom.The idea that Yesod is where the “evil” integrates isn’t directly supported. What the sages suggests is that any distortion or imbalance in the flow through Yesod (from higher sefirot) can result in negative consequences. Yesod is a place of linking and transmitting, so if alignment is off, the “lower” manifestation will reflect that distortion. But Yesod is not “evil” or anything like that.
>>41071685so is kabbalah just proto-psychology? or is there more to it?
if i wanted to make a class in World of Warcraft that was based on Keter, would it be a shadow priest oro an arcane mage?Would Yesod be a balance druid? would Hod be a mage?a paladin be Chesed?a warrior be Geburah?
>>41071685Heaven and hell is essentially layers of purity/love/wisdom or dirt/evil/ignorance that separate one from God by layers. From this view, "integrating your shadow", is the same as rubbing mud on yourself, or dropping shit in a cup of milk. It only causes separation from God. > Yes God is found in the qilphoth as much as the Tree of lifeNo.Qlipot are layers comprised largely of the selfishness, narcissism and ignorance of man. Every man has layers of selfishness and ignorance, that cause him to be separated from Unity. So these things are the lack of God. Part of our freewill is being alone to exist at whatever level of spiritual development we are at. "Shadow integration" is what creates psychopaths, because people take drugs, and realize they have a selfish evil part of themselves, and decide that this selfish shell is their true and only self, and then become psychopaths who no longer feel guilty for being shitty people.
>>41071926I keep seeing a lot of Kabbalah threads. I know some people really do have deep knowledge, but in general, most of what I see is very superficial, and that’s normal. I’m not saying this to criticize anyone, okay? But I’d like people who are just starting out and who are genuinely interested to keep this in mind. Kabbalah is not a game. If you approach it with respect and the right ethical mindset, there’s nothing wrong with studying it. But if you go in expecting to get something out of it, it’s going to go badly for you.Come in with respect. you’re entering holy ground, do it with an open heart>so is kabbalah just proto-psychology? or is there more to it?Well yes, in a way, it could be seen as a form of self-knowledge and proto-psychology. In fact, later on Chaim Vital will lay the groundwork for what could be seen as a kind of science that explains the tzimtzum. In Kabbalah, you’ll find many overlapping doctrines. The thing is, Kabbalah was basically what science used to be. For them, that was science , just like astrology used to be science too. Obviously over time things evolve and we gain a different kind of understanding, but yes, you can absolutely look at it that way. That’s one layer of it.
>>41071785wow absolutely everything you posted is wrong
https://youtube.com/shorts/gAkLDqTAt2Y?si=TBBTb082ooxa_EVg
>>41071956Thank you.Please, clarify
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I want to talk a bit about why controlling the Sitra Achra, the Midot, and all that is so important. When you get angry, when your energy becomes agitated or you act out in a negative way, you’re drawing from the energy of evil.That type of energy enters because it resonates with what’s already within us. That’s why purification is so critical. We have to remove those ego-driven attitudes: envy, jealousy, pride, rage. These are what open the gates, they make us vulnerable.That’s the key point: what enters only enters because Heaven allows a connection between that external energy or entity and the internal state of the person. Often, it’s not some demonic “possession,” which is rare, it’s more lik chaotic energies from the domain of evil.If your vessel reflects goodness, you’ll attract goodness. And goodness shows itself in real, concrete ways. But you have to be careful, because misusing these energies doesn’t just affect you. It affects your whole family, your home, your environment.You need to pay attention to what’s going on in your house. How people act. Who’s taking responsibility. If there’s someone who never helps, never cleans, never clears the table, as that’s a sign of imbalance, and that imbalance spreads. It can manifest as misfortune or spiritual heaviness in the home.There has to be harmony in the household, and everyone needs to work together, because the energy of those closest to you will affect you. You can’t isolate yourself from the people you live with.
>>41072039can't exactly force harmony in the household either
>>41072412>forcedont force it, be an example
>>41071685The key is to merge both the light and the shadow realms. If you look closely enough, the entry and exit points are effectively the same in the RHP and in the LHP, just a different path taken.
>>41071685Because you're rhp and not a retard waiting with the pesquisator for people who fall into the trappings of belief.
