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Chaos is the primordial force from which everything emanates. It's the source of infinite possibilities, a state beyond structure or predictability. Chaos is the wellspring of all potential, where every possibility is available but not yet actualized. In magic, working with chaos means tapping into this limitless potential to shape reality according to your desires.

Grant Morrison explaining sigil magic:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_0GLmqQWM0

full lecture remastered:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvPyipy8erg

Grant Morrison's BETTER lecture, goes indepth into charging which he doesn't do in the original:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXBePJ42kdE

Learning to create your own sigils for your own custom desires (book) (also just about everything you need to know about sigil magic, INCLUDING OTHER METHODS OF CHARGING SIGILS):https://download.library.lol/main/389000/7728555bace3ccdc1e62a54f062175be/U.D.%20Frater%20-%20PRACTICAL%20SIGIL%20MAGIC%20Creating%20Personal%20Symbols%20for%20Success-Llewellyn%20%281991%29.pdf

other books: Condensed Chaos, Liber Null

Sigil Article posted by an Anon:https://runesoup.com/2012/03/ultimate-sigil-magic-guide/

Extremely indepth Introduction to Chaos Magic Video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt7D7BbFZsA

A collection of articles: http://www.chaosmatrix.org/
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>>41084966
>get a piece of paper and a pen
>write your intention in the present tense or past like "Jane Doe is in love with me". In older texts you'll also find intentions written as a clear wish like "This my wish to acquire the strength of a tiger by October 2024" or something like that.
>remove all vowels and repeated letters leaving only consonants
>you can also pick only the first letter of each word if your intention is too long or if you wanna simplify it
>use the remaining letters to create a unique symbol. if it feels "magical" it's good. there are no rules though.
>draw the symbol while focusing on your intention visualize it happening now
>charge the sigil through masturbation. bring yourself to the point of orgasm focusing on the symbol. There are OTHER METHODS, LIKE HOLDING YOUR BREATH ALMOST TO THE POINT OF PASSING OUT, AND THEN LOOKING AT THE SIGIL. Needless to say, those other methods are dangerous. But the other methods have advantages too. If you think orgasming is "degenerate", read the book provided earlier and learn the other methods, but be advised, they can be dangerous.
>release your energy into the sigil during climax, (you can cum on your sigil basically)

>throw the sigil in the trash or destroy it or burn it so you can forget it (this is OPTIONAL and there isn't a consensus. Grant Morrison doesn't dispose of his sigils.)
>move on with your day
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>>41084966
i wanna explore egreigores more, it's not talked about enough
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>>41084966
>>https://download.library.lol/main/389000/7728555bace3ccdc1e62a54f062175be/U.D.%20Frater%20-%20PRACTICAL%20SIGIL%20MAGIC%20Creating%20Personal%20Symbols%20for%20Success-Llewellyn%20%281991%29.pdf
Link is kill. Nooo
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>>41085033

What are your opinions on this anon, depending on who your reading I'm not sure what to think about it.
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>>41086087
NTA but I've never thought of being able to harness egregores. All my experiences have been in escaping from the clutches of the collective madness they generate.
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>>41086100

Yes indeed. I'm trapped by them currently really looking forward to not being.
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>>41086118
You can inject some chaos into the situation and startle an adherent enough to take back control and dominance over the situation. It's messy but it works. You then have to make a clean break and not return to its clutches.
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>>41086134

I think I completely understand what you are saying, any suggestions beyond that?

CAPTCHA: YAGA
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>>41086143
>suggestions?
Maybe. Without going into specifics, what's the rough situation?
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>>41086166

Without going into detail it's really hard to explain, But I will do my best. To the best of my knowledge which is limited I think they are attempting to take full control and I can never seem to escape where ever I go.
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>>41086185
OK. I'm gonna assume you have periodic occasions where you're forced to encounter this egregoric field, and you also have times in between where you get to feel your own clarity of the situation and you realise what's going on.
Whenever you're far away, build your mental resolve to remember what you intuitively know is right for you, and to stick to that at all costs.
Then when you're in the lion's den and compromised by the egregoric field, you won't be yourself and you'll be pliable (you'll think the egregore's suggestions are perfectly reasonable). That's when you need to remember your resolve at all costs and stick to it, even though in that moment the thought-field of the egregore will make you feel silly and irrational for doing so.
Each encounter with the egregore saps your energy a little more, allow it too many bites of the apple and the trap will close on you sooner than you think.
One tactic can be to exaggerate the damage the egregore is causing you without letting on that you know the egregore is responsible. An adherent will panic because it's too much too fast. But if the egregore feels like it's going to lose you as a customer, it might decide to go in for the kill and harvest you all at once. You might be led to believe there's an unexpected crisis situation and you need to stick around but this is a trap to draw you back in. So if you're going to claim back control, remember your resolve at all costs, even though you will come across as a bit crazy and irrational for defying the group-think in the room at the time.
Is this helpful?
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>>41086222

Extremely helpful. I don't know who you are but profoundly thank you.
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>>41086222

also checked :)
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>charge the sigil through masturbation. bring yourself to the point of orgasm focusing on the symbol

What many modern "tulpamancers" fail to realize is how much sexual energy can accomplish in manifesting a tulpa. Instead of fapping for her image until she manifests, they follow the RHP methods of meditation and repetition, which are proven to not work. Then complain that their tulpa wont manifest. After thousands of users trying it, they now say it is a "construct of the mind" in order to cope with their failures.

Only LHP methods work. If meditation was good, it would not be so popular. If masturbation was bad, there would be no porn industry in order for you to waste your sexual energy.
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>>41086232
I'll just add that while you're in the zone of being manipulated by the eggregore, and feeling a bit feeble and submissive, you'll feel pressured to concede things against your own beliefs, and it will feel like it's inevitable and those things you were hanging onto were already lost or maybe you were silly to think they were so important to begin with.
Just remember that the egregore feeds you lies to break you down and put you on a leash, nothing more. The inescapable logic and rational arguments that you find compelling will evaporate as soon as you get out of there.
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>>41086241

I seriously hope you have one of the best days tomorrow ever.
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>>41086276
Thanks!
I hope you do too :)
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>>41084966
Magick is for nerds who the creator didn't love and give 10 luck and 10 charisma
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>>41084966
Where to find QT 3.14 witches?
>>41086306
>calls out nerds
>uses video game references
Go touch grass
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>>41084966
I don't care it's all gay and stupid.
Enjoy being harvested by your nigger overlords that don't give a shit about you.
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>>41085033
My pet theory is that the internet has made (some) people consciously aware to a degree previously unimaginable of the presence of the collective mind & its affects on the individual mind. People have always been channeling thoughtforms & "higher entities" (gods, demons, archetypes etc) but now it's at this mundane level of awareness thanks to memetic identity. Problem is is that even those who are aware of the phenomenon generally aren't thinking it through enough - they still view it as media that they're viewing and being influenced by, rather than actual non-physical entities expressing themselves through them

>>41086237

I feel like the SR crowd (and RHP types more broadly) fuck up bc they don't even consciously recognize the magical tools they themselves are operating with. So not only do they denigrate the LHP, any magical they are able to manifest through their own means is viewed as a miracle, an act of God which they have no conscious control over (other than being a devout ascetic follower). Personally I see SR as a perfectly valid means of training self-control, and meditation as a valid means of doing mental/emotional housecleaning, but both of these things can be derived by myriad other methods (and indeed I would encourage the chaos magician to experiment & find practices that resonate with what they actually want & the kind of aesthetics they feel drawn to). The dogmatic practritioner of one method, who fails to see that the magic is ultimately something they themselves generate (and that the actual method is just decoration) is like a born again religious convert, who has a major emotional breakthrough facilitated by a priest, and mistakenly comes to believe that the priest was the source of all these incredible feelings
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>>41084966
>Chaos is the primordial force from which everything emanates. It's the source of infinite possibilities, a state beyond structure or predictability. Chaos is the wellspring of all potential, where every possibility is available but not yet actualized.
Wrong. 'Chaos' is an artifact of the Simulacrum of appearances.

The wellspring of all being is the unconditioned awareness of the One.
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>>41086306
Luck is a secret stat most people think it does nothing
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One of the first spirits you must cast out if you're going to do intuitive magic is the Ironic Genie. When you first start making sigils or anything like that, there's often this tendency to say "am I wording this just right? Am I charging this right? What if it manifests in this weird 'technical correct' way I actually don't want?"

Recognize that no matter how specific you are in setting your intention, it's never enough to explicitly rule out every possible way the spell could go awry. You could make a sigil that was a 10k page lawbook specifying every little detail you could possibly ever want, and the Ironic Genie would still be able to find some loophole to twist your wish into something undesirable. So basically no amount of thoroughness would ever be enough to ward off the Genie - instead, you have to move w/ the understanding that the real intention of your words is getting through, even if you don't lay out all the details just so. Acting with that assumed confidence is the only way to actually improve, because you will in fact fuck up & need to revise your methods over time. But if you're overly concerned with getting it perfectly right the first time, you'll never gain any insight
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>>41085033
the process works. how much are you willing to put into it. are you applying a face to concepts?
are you putting energy into it? whats the end goal? control? permanence beyond you?

depending on the egreigore you help shape it will also in a sense shape and or change you. especially depending on the concepts it embodies.

actively trying to will mine further into the world to begin the apocalypse in its literal definition.
good luck
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>>41088167
Real lol
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>>41084966
The more boring description is chaos being a blank canvas
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>>41084987
>this is OPTIONAL and there isn't a consensus. Grant Morrison doesn't dispose of his sigils
Mom found the cum symbols
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>tfw no gothic witch brown gf
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>>41089566
I never knew sweet anita was brown. she does look brown doe

>>41089309
i don't know why you wouldn't dispose of the sigils
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>>41088748
Explain more. some of my sigils have shown up but not exactly what I wanted. Some are comically devious.

>ask for wealth and expenses covered
>credit card debt
>ask for lots of hot girls
>trans girls match me
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>>41091972
you're not being specific enough. don't be ashamed of making long statements of intent. the sigil will always be condensed and short because you never use vowels or repeated letters. so make the statement of intent as long and specific as you want.
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>>41086237
There are many ways to raise energy. Calmly doing nothing isn't one of them, correct.
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