flat earthers NOT welcome. only intellectual discussion here
>the russians would have told us!!the russians: https://odysee.com/@thisworldworks:1/33333:d5b
It should be easy to connect supposed Martian or lunar photos with actual geography on earth. Remember Shia lebouf’s flag?
Getting real tired of these image spamming retards who can’t write their own posts. I’m not reading your copypasta. Write some shit with your own brain for the thread.
>>41094716You can see the rubber sealing zippers here, this pic is from the same forum thread in the image. This is what happens when you blindly repost images and don’t do your own research or even write your own posts.
>>41094764http://www.collectspace.com/ubb/Forum14/HTML/001299.htmlLots more pics in the thread showing the sealing systems clearly, it’s actually pretty interesting, the zippers are complicated
>>41094650I appreciate that you believe space is fake.(My theory is that they created space so that we have an reason not to explore and research the ocean, as space is just “so much more interesting”) But I don’t appreciate that you’re just image spamming. Use your brain and write for yourself.
>>41094716Contrary to the claim in the image the user on the forum was happy with the responses which gave lots of helpful information. Whoever is making these dogshit collages is highly invested in lying to us.
quick nasa facts >Apollo cameras had no way of protecting the film. no pressurization to keep the volatile substances from outgassing into vacuum. no termal protection to keep the film from cooking in direct sunlight, no protection from cosmic rays leaving streak marks on the film.>a dummy capsule with no crew was found by a russian ship in the Atlantic a day after apollo 13 launch >the space suit had no protection against solar flares and cosmic rays. apollo 17 happened during solar maximum when the sun shoots out multiple flares a day. >the apollo 17 men are alleged to have spent 7 and a half consecutive hours in the suit on a extravehicular activity excursion. >the apollo 17 lander spent 3 days on the surface, continuously blasted by solar heating, while covered partially in a black tarp that gets hot, without cooking the occupants>the lunar ascent module on apollo 17 made no visible exhaust plume while rocket engines of similar build produce perfectly visible plumes in vacuum>the suit was pressurized by two strips of rubber, a few millimeters thick, pushed together by two zippers >apollo 13 had a tank explosion but the crew managed to save the mission by creating an improvised co2 scrubber from nylon wrap, plastic tubes and tape.>the reentry capsule experienced low levels of G loading due to deceleration during reentry. A russian unmanned capsule, called Zond 5, with a similar mission profile experienced 30+ G forces of deceleration during reentry.>today's latest reentry vehicle, the Orion capsule experienced problems during reentry. Chunks of heat shield material blew off. this is despite it's use of a double-dipping reentry procedure to minimize heat soaking. the Apollo capsules used a direct entry and had no problems with either high G stresses nor heat shield disintegration. > the crew of Apollo 1 died on the launch pad in the capsule because the capsule was pressurized with pure oxigen which in contact with organic and hydrocarbon materials
>>41094876continued>combusts spontaneously without spark.this is despite the fact that nasa had previously tested pure oxygen environments in pressurized containers and they were aware of the flamability problem. Bill Kaysing speculated that this was intentional and the nasa feds wanted to get rid of Guss Grissom, one of the astronauts who was talking too much shit about nasa and expressing his distrust with the success of the mission.>according to nasa themselves the surface pressure of the atmosphere of mars is equivalent with the pressure on Earth at 35 km above sea level.at this altitude the atmosphere is always black, transparent to the blackness of space. but on mars NOT ONE picture ever shows a thin atmosphere. According to shills this is due to aerosols suspended in the air. Since 2004 there has been a continuous robotic presence on mars, thousands of pictures taken, and for two decades NOT ONE picture has a clear sky. moreover according to nasa the aerosols go as high as 60 km above the surface while on Earth, a much denser atmosphere can only suspend particles about as far as 27 km in the high ice particle clouds. >the Galileo atmospheric probe has allegedly performed the most extreme atmospheric reentry maneuver in history. It entered the atmosphere of Jupiter at 48 km/s and was cooked with 30.000 Watts of heat per cm2.while in JPL papers, about atmospheric deceleration, the engineers say that deceleration in Neptune's atmosphere is too extreme for current heat shield materials. an atmospheric entry speed of 29 km/s and a heat load of 12.000 Watts /cm2 is "placing unrealistically high requirements on the thermal protection system heating rate". So 12.000 watts is too extreme for current tech but 30.000 wats was possible with 1980's tech.
>>41094809he's an obvious ass kisser, normal people don't talk like that. this sounds like a corporate brochure.
>>41094801I don't believe space is fake. I think space exploration is fake
>>41094764that picture is from a diver suit, shill. he is giving an example by comparing with diver's suits. which is a bad example because a diver's suit has the same pressure outside as inside. the air is not rushing out and spreading the lips of the zipper apart.
>>41094662yes the lunar geography can be found on earth at the lunar simulation ranges. there were 3 of them
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>>41095008the pyramids project everything and hides our dome.. this is a prison planet and we are being harvested.
>>41095115I can get a telescope and see Saturn and JupiterThe stars rotate around the Pole Star, I can stand outside and observe it over hoursMeanwhile the NASA story of the moon landings is based on some Masons on TV telling me it happenedIf you wanted people to believe in the Moon landings, you should have been better peopleFlat Earth is schizophrenia from the Talmud
>>41094650Always was. I read they filmed it in Greenland. Remember the glitch on google maps? Probably the area where they film it.
>>41095224Nope. This place is a flat dreammatrix. Like that us the vibe I get. Like a videogame map. Base reality might have Outer space tho.
the chicoms are building make-believe mars bases. are they gonna do it? "beat" the americans to mars? that would be so funny if the chongs faked it before Elon https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2019/04/photos-mars-gobi-desert/587353/
>>41095338they filmed at flagstaff airforce base
>>41095614they even make reference to Kubrick for some reason
>>41094650Earth is flat and unmoving. Deal with it.
>>41095643how can I deal with it when it's bull?
>>41095091Not what I’m talking about. If the mars and moon missions are fake then every photo of a landscape should line up with some location on earth. Do you have a compilation of these? There should be thousands.
>>41095020You’re right. But you should have done more research. Here’s another photo of the dual zipper on the actual suit, this one clearly shows a rubber seal along the zipper. Found this in 5 minutes of googling keywords from the forum thread.More pics for other curious anonshttps://www.nasa.gov/history/alsj/a14/A14Mitchell-FlownSuit.html
>>41094876>>the suit was pressurized by two strips of rubber, a few millimeters thick, pushed together by two zippersto about 4.5psi using a couple rubber seals. it also had a range of allowable pressure loss rates, because it wasn't perfectly sealed. why cant moonhoax believers into how rubber seals work? everything must seem so mysterious to them.> the crew of Apollo 1 died on the launch pad in the capsule because the capsule was pressurized with pure oxigen which in contact with organic and hydrocarbon materialswell, they died because a fire started due to shitty wiring causing a short/spark. keep in mind that all US spacecraft has used pure 02 before this.>>the lunar ascent module on apollo 17 made no visible exhaust plume while rocket engines of similar build produce perfectly visible plumes in vacuumall depends on the fuel really. lots of rockets dont produce much if any visible exhaust plume, and the LM ascent engine was very small too.all of the point in your list are simply indications of the author of them not knowing very much about the things involved.
>>41096542I like how “a few mm thick” is supposed to make it sound shoddy meanwhile the head gasket on a car is only about a mm thick and it contains massive pressures. Even a household faucet is like 40psi water held back by a tiny little mm thick o-ring.
>>41094980>mars atmosphereaverage is 610pascals. moon is at most 0.3 nano pascals. mars has plenty of atmosphere to scatter light.
>>41096630its how the moonhoax people work (same with flat earthers) - they act incredulously to numbers they dont try to put in context or even understand.
>>41096282Do you see the sign that says "Closed to ALL"? They block civilians from getting there. That way you can't take pictures and then compare them to the moon landing you dunce.
>>41097115It says closed to all motor vehicles dude. The website says you can still visit.Here it is on google maps:https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3063438,-111.5051259,607m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttuPlease match up this crater pattern with any supposed images taken on the moon. You’re being awfully rude for how clearly wrong you are.
>>41097115They just cleaned up the place last year for tourists so you can absolutely go there
>>41097210>Just cleaned upSo how long was it off limits? You can easily change the entire Topography of the land in that time. So taking pictures to compare won't work.
>>41095699If earth wasnt flat NASA wouldnt need to fake it
>>41097251It doesn’t seem like it was ever closed, they just trimmed some overgrowth. Here’s a tourist photo I found on instagram from 2019. You can see all the shrubs and shit growing in the “crater”.
>>41097294Interesting. Thank you very much for the info. Going to look into this more
>>41097321No problem, I wish I knew about this place, I used to live in az and went to flagstaff all the time and I would have loved to visit
>>41094809I would, justifiably, argue that literally anyone who would openly state that NASA "discloses so much information" is someone not entirely in the loop.At the very least, they're shockingly ignorant to the obfuscation NASA frequently participates in, as well as their manipulative behavior.While I don't necessarily agree with OP, I do think there is a LOT to question with regards to space travel and achievements. As well as other knowledge related to such.
>>41097647Guy from the forum is clueless but he was convinced by the arguments presented there which is what I really wanted to address.There are certainly many questions. Especially regarding UFO sightings by astronauts and findings on the other celestial bodies.
>>41097281Just stop.You flat earth retards have mental disabilities.
>>41096542the black arrow used kerosene and hydrogen peroxide, it has a perfectly visible exhaust. the ascent module used nitrogen tetroxide and dimethyl hydrazine, which are visible. there is footage of the actual engine and how bright it is >>41094659nice try, redditbut nice try
>>41094876>a dummy capsule with no crew was found by a russian ship in the Atlantic a day after apollo 13 launchhttp://www.astronautix.com/s/sovietsrecoe-2008version.html
>>41097115NTA but why can't we just send a few drones, take a bunch of quick pictures before they shoot them down or whatever?
