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It's been a few thousand years of patriarchal control of religion, but it seems that that is now all but dead in the West. When you compare the two sexes the spiritual state is stark in contrast. Men are either spiritually inert, or they fall back on trying to larp with formal religious structures that are socially dead, and they don't truly believe in for it's own sake, but more so the functional benefit it is supposed to bring to society. The religions whether abrahamic or iron age paganism both were patriarchal and used more as tools of control than genuine expressions of spirituality, but are useful without said control.
Meanwhile, women are effortlessly adapting to informal, intuitive belief systems and have genuine faith in what they practice without any ulterior motive of control. This is more akin to natural spirituality and is the domain of women to lead in, but many men can't grasp such a concept after millennia of unnatural systems.
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Women aren't even sapient, they're automatons driven entirely by social pressure.
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>>41108435
>It's been a few thousand years of patriarchal control of religion
And 60 years of matriarchal control and the western world is literally at civil war, filled with legal crime, drug addicts, homeless, and financial collapse.

Its now an openly rebellious, Satanic, culture, where women has achieved equality...men see you as equals in fights to the death, except saving you can result is prison or death, so more of that.

Youre on your own, you voted for this...
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>>41108474
>60 years of matriarchal control
Ridiculous take. Most institutions are still controlled by men at the top. There is only token feminism to pander to women.
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>>41108567
>Ridiculous take.
Welcome to the Matriarchy.

Child rape and murder is now state enforced.
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>>41108462
Are you happy being an incorrect fucking faggot who just says random shit and believes in nothing but yourself?
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>>41108594
>cops are bastards
tell us something we don't know faggot
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>>41108607
>tell us something we don't know
Are you a Biological woman?
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>>41108612
irrelevant. i'm a human being who is aware enough to realize cops are much more likely than the general populace to be up to some heinous shit.
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>>41108619
>irrelevant
How the fuck would you know?
>who is aware
How the fuck would you know?

This is why feminsm and equality leads to Satanic nations who blood scarifice babies and legalize child rape...(You).
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>>41108435
For thousands of years men have carried all the burdens of providing and everything that comes with civilization. Now it's women's time to pick up the slack and carry civilization forward.
My plan is to be a neet and for women wagies to pay their fair share by providing for me and everybody else in society for the next six thousand years.

It's time for men to sit back, relax and take it very easy for the next two thousand years at the very least. We earned it after all.
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>>41108640
>nonsense questioning like a blind child trying to navigate a world he doesn't understand
>anyway women are evil
you don't believe in anything except getting attention. Here's your attention, dirty whore. you ignore every instance of a male cop doing bad so you can blame women instead of understanding law enforcement is fucked up worldwide when cops that happen to be female do some fucked shit too?
you should just transition and get a furfag boyfriend who loves helldivers and rifles you homosexual.
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>>41108597
>Are you happy being an incorrect fucking
>Woman's version of "Im right because fuck you, thats why."
Charlie Kirk would be proud.
>>41108567
>Most institutions are still controlled by men at the top. There is only token feminism to pander to women.
Because women arent competent enough to run nations, let alone massive companies, they take orders from penis-beings, even you do and you cant even recognize that.

"Women in top positions" is a Patriarchal version of Matriarchy...youre LARPing as men and thinking thats what a woman is; acting like a man while still behaving like a woman who cant be touched because "Im a woman."

[gets stabbed on a subway]
WELCOME TO EQAULITY.

>>41108619
>irrelevant
>dodges the point to address feelings about something else
Avoidance of responsability, thas why you cant be in charge....YOU ABANDON THE SHIP MID ENGAGEMENT.

>>41108435
>have genuine faith in what they practice without any ulterior motive of control
Pure selfish ulterior motive...every divorce she stabs him in the back for maximum payout...equality until it has consequences, then switch back to Patriarchy "i deserve special treatment", then back to "even 50/50".

Youre playing both sides....corrupted snake collapsed society....100% your fault.
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>>41108462
The irony of being so in tune with the incel spirituality board to fpbp in a thread about the return of matriarchy.
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>>41108662
>you don't believe in anything except getting attention
Perfectly proved my point.

YOU CANNOT LEAD....YOU ABANDON SHIP AND BLAMED THE CO-PILOT.

Woman are pro-slavery, pro-rape, pro-theft, pro-murder.
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>>41108673
>Woman are pro-slavery, pro-rape, pro-theft, pro-murder.
Ah, yes, women wrote the American constitution.
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>>41108676
That gave all being inalienable rights.

...now we kill babies, traffick them in court, reintroduced chattle slavery, all while you LARP the victim.

You have no eyes....why are you trying to chart the stars?
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>>41108686
>inalienable rights
>except as punishment for a crime
Passion makes for a bad foundational for rational arguments, namefag.
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>>41108673
>gripe because i'm right
>continues to prove xe only cares about getting attention by saying more retarded shit
here's another (you) faggot, don't spend it all in one place
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>>41108691
>except as punishment for a crime
>>41108673
>YOU CANNOT LEAD....YOU ABANDON SHIP AND BLAMED THE CO-PILOT.
>>41108691
>Passion makes for a bad foundational for rational arguments
[co-pilot]

You never address the issue, you just "say no".......Jesus fucking Christ...why do you have autonomy over other people you sadistic slaver?
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>>41108694
>never addressed a single point except "token positions".

Kiddo, Hillary Clinton took marching orders....she isnt a global strategists. She is a corrupted capitalist like you.
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>>41108435
SO sick of the feminist bullshit
Go fuck yourself
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>>41108707
>assumes I believe in capitalism
>brings up some random evil bitch that women don't even like for no reason
>cries alone in his room at night
genuinely sybau. genuinely go transition and radicalize some chump who plays map painting games.
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>>41108720
>assumes I believe in capitalism
Every communist is a capitalist, through and through. Every CEO dreams of being able to make profit with zero labor costs...thats communism, theft.

Your God is money, communists and CEOs both worship the same God.

>brings up some random evil bitch
ADDRESS THE ISSUE.
>cries alone in his room at night
ADDRESS THE ISSUE.
>genuinely sybau. genuinely go transition and radicalize some chump who plays map painting games.
ADDRESS THE ISSUE.

ADDRESS THE ISSUE.
ADDRESS THE ISSUE.
ADDRESS THE ISSUE.
ADDRESS THE ISSUE.
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>>41108744
what issue? the issue of you being an attention-starved homosexual who can't understand or handle women so instead you just make up a bunch of shit to get attention?
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>>41108744
Me replying to you is a public service btw. the more I reply to you the less likely you are to do some even more fucking retarded shit to get the attention you crave irl. I'm saving lives right now.
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>>41108751
>what issue
"Haha, I dont see anything, I guess I win."

BWAHAHAHAHA! SO WISE AND TRUE.
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>>41108761
All I see is a sad little xir/xim yeah
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>>41108766
>All I see
Ive made the point for lurkers...you've lost your composure and derailed your own argument.

You failed huemanity and every will know exactly how by the time its over.
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>>41108782
You don't have an argument nigga you just say women are evil because you found some evil which happens to be committed by a woman.
yes other homosexuals who hate women will be agreeing with your ""point"" because you're all radicalized the same retarded way.
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lmao the namefaggot incel seething
kill all schizoids
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>>41108462
This. In healthy society, women have no roles
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>>41108761
>>41108782
holy fucking based
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>>41108597
Women aren't going to reward you with sex for defending them on the internet.
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> OP speaking a truth that could offer genuine constructive debate and reflection on why "the modern man" has so many problems ie male loneliness epidemic, gender politics, NEETdom, etc
> thread is nothing but chimping and finger pointing
Do you want to know why you're so unhappy, angry, and unfulfilled? It's not a wahmen thing. You're shutting down like a toddler and having a tantrum because someone dared to mention something you don't like. It doesn't matter whether the information is true or not. All you're doing is screaming and slamming your fists on the Froot Loops mommy laid out for you because you wanted Frosted Flakes.
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>>41109081
>numale screams and cries on womens' behalf because he thinks they'll give him sex for it
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>>41109081
Sounds like you're the whiniest person here, perhaps you should reflect on why this makes you so upset when people disagree with something
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>>41108435
They belong in the kitchen or bedroom
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>>41108435
For thousands of years men have carried all the burdens of providing and everything that comes with civilization. Now it's women's time to pick up the slack and carry civilization forward.
My plan is to be a neet and for women wagies to pay their fair share by providing for me and everybody else in society for the next six thousand years.

It's time for men to sit back, relax and take it very easy for the next two thousand years at the very least. We earned it after all.
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>>41108435
Wymyn have always larped as le spiritual without actually knowing shit. They think mixing estradiol phermones with horse balls makes them spiritual/esoteric. Mankind on the other-hand have had a few who knew what those practices actually were, they just weren't that showy about them or they disregarded the abilities gained via those processes and focused on asceticism or a higher cause. Think about it, who would've done more with water. A fish or a human, I think the answer is quite clear. These demonic rituals are ingrained on the minds of wymyn by birth. Yet it's men who master them and utilize them to the full extent, then afterwards throw them away(but that's another case)
Wymyn are harbors of certain unseen entities. That's why you must cautious whenever interacting with one, if it ever tries to anger you, know this it's not the wooman you're talking to but a reptilian charger port.
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>advertising on witchtok to sell spells on etsy while taking vanity pics
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>>41109183
This.
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>>41109192
>Wymyn are harbors of certain unseen entities. That's why you must cautious whenever interacting with one, if it ever tries to anger you, know this it's not the wooman you're talking to but a reptilian charger port.
This here is the real red pill.
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I worked with them and it has made me swing hard into misogynistic views because they are....not bright. And thats putting it lightly.
They truly are not meant to be spiritual guides at all. They get too creative and stray from the path and dont even to find answers but to create traps. They will also make up convoluted shit that only creates more problems and questions than actual answers.
My experience was terrible. They are only good for making you feel good when they induce fake feelings of comfort or love so beware of their tactics.
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>>41108435
They indeed have the most potential, but there will be a heck of a long time for them to get rid of their programming. The seduction of consumer world is simply too much for them. Nevertheless, serious practice and study will always mog innate talent, and that is why men makes better occultists than women. I for one see no virtue in using innate powers with zero understanding. Understanding the mechanisms of magic is, in the long run, way more valuable than simply casting shit.

>>41108462
Most of them, yes, because of social conditioning.

>>41109815
Yes, they are pure talent and potential, such as children. But you would take a class of anything with a kid as teacher.

>>41109183
>earning
I say that ain't going to happen. Women don't share the same sense of responsibility that man carries. We are entitled to fuck off, they have their own shit to build. But they are not going to carry us on their backs, it's simply unnatural I guess.
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>>41109946
I dont think they even have innate talent. I just think they are tools for other entities to hijack them easier so it seems like they have magic but its all performative nonsense.

Its why even ancient Egypt would tell you through stories that Isis stole magic from Ra. She didnt make herself she took it from someone else to expand her personal glory.
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>>41108435
>>41109081
>Women are spiritually superior in all facets with no exceptions, and men are all but spiritually impotant
Yea this is bait you dumbass white knight. Women have spiritual gifts that have been ignored throughout history but OP is fanning the flames of the current gender war and big surprise some name fag took the bait.
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>>41108435
Women don't have better magical abilities then men, they have different abilities that men don't because men and women aren't the same especially on a spiritual level
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>>41110071
>"Other entities"
Just admit you think everything is demons Christcuck
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>>41110071
>Its why even ancient Egypt would tell you through stories that Isis stole magic from Ra. She didnt make herself she took it from someone else to expand her personal glory.
very interesting
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>>41110201
>gender war
This made me think of a certain cool goth dude doing rants on gendur relashuns. I hate you.
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>>41110343
Kek I don't know who you are talking about
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>>41110377
KingCobraJFS. He used to rant about gender relations. He's dead as of a month ago. Shame.
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>>41108435
>the West
All their woo woo vagina witchcraft "religion" isnt even real spirituality
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>>41110419
Oh okay thx
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>>41109815

Men and women come in all different stripes. There are women more intellectual than you, more emotionally intelligent than you, more spiritually advanced, in better shape, more virtuous, higher earning than you, more socially equipped, more comfortable in their own skin, etc.

The universe is mental. It reflects your mind state. If all you're being reflected is degenerate women, take a look in the mirror.
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>>41110587
You're not getting laid for all this simping. Holy shit you look pathetic
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>>41108435
Op is either a tranny or a massive faggot.>>41108435
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>>41108612
>Are you a Biological woman?
You seriously need to ask?
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>>41108676
>Meanwhile, women are effortlessly adapting to informal, intuitive belief systems and have genuine faith in what they practice without any ulterior motive of control.
>while posting a lame ass witchcraft ai generated image.
>>41108567
>Ridiculous take.
But that was the OP's take right from the opening line. Such a frigging weird and retarded hill to stand in.
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>>41108435
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>>41108435
Pagan society was patriarchal.

By the way, any of their Venuses (Aphrodite, Inanna, Astarte, Asherah, Artimpasa, Derketo, Shaushka) were associated with temple prostitution. Moreover, according to ritual, even high-society women in Babylon were expected to give themselves to a random man on a special holiday. They weren't supposed to demand money, but were given some pittance, although it was possible for a rich man to be involved (it was random).

Are they ready for this?
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>>41108567
>Ridiculous take. Most institutions are still controlled by men at the top
Go to family court sometime and report back to me.
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>>41110587
>There are women more intellectual than you
Name a single relevant female intellectual.
>more emotionally intelligent than you
Seeking social media validation isnt emotional intelligence.
>more spiritually advanced
Name a single legitimate spiritual movement started by a female.
>in better shape
There isnt a single woman alive I couldn't take down in about 5-10 seconds.
>more virtuous
Women would need a concept of virtue to begin with. Since every one of their opinions is shared by the collective, their "virtue" is mostly subjective, fleeting, and subject to constant change.
>higher earning than you
Feminism did succeed on this point. An entire generation of women now make ridiculous amounts of money for doing absolutely nothing. The problem with this is that women have zero ability to control their spending. Every dollar they earn is accompanied by 2 dollars spent. Their ability to consume will never outstrip their ability to earn, even when they earn money for doing absolutely nothing.
>more socially equipped
Posting butthole pics on social media isnt being socially equipped.
>more comfortable in their own skin, etc.
So comfortable that they feel the need to wear massive amounts of make-up and take 5 billion selfies and post them to 10 different forms of social media simultaneously.
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>>41110709
>You seriously need to ask?
Yes. A biological woman wouldn't take the time to post an opinion without her name being attached to it. As part of her identity, her opinion exists to carve out a niche among the female hivemind. Anonymous social media is not a female thing. Also, you write like a dude with a femdom fetish. Stop consuming porn.
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>>41112658
Every single rebuttal was very well done.
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>>41108435
i don't think anyone alive today has witnessed a spiritual woman. If it were possible for women to be truly spiritual in a way that wasn't retarded cope they resort to when they're useless (what they did in the past) they would continue to exist and would exist today.

there would be high tier spiritual woman that see what is going on, and approach discussion with a detached perspective understanding how people are being misled. Instead literally EVERY SINGLE woman is either completely oblivious to why men are suffering, or totally condescending and sadistic.
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>>41108435
>returning to their role as spiritual leaders
if by that you mean housewives in charge of raising the children, then yes. But not in charge of the country
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>>41108663
>"Women in top positions" is a Patriarchal version of Matriarchy
This a profound observation.
Patriarchy is men directly running things
Feminists think a matriarchy would be women directly running things, because they are dumb and think that women are cognitively and behaviorally equal to men.
A matriarchy is not a patriarchy except with the genders flipped.
Women being socially dominant looks very different from men being socially dominant, to the extent that people used to observing through a patriarchal lens wouldn't even recognize a matriarchal society as being matriarchal except in the most blatant cases.
This also tracks with observations of actual "matriarchal" societies in history. Men are still at he top of hierarchies, but women control the bulk of men through sexual access according to feminine whims. As opposed to a patriarchy, where men control sex and distribute it according to productivity and rules.
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>>41112879
>Woman are either oblivious to why men are suffering, or totally condescending and sadistic.
That's what sucks the most, they don't even understand that they have won.
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>>41108900
no, idiot, in a healthy society women are mothers, wives and homemakers. They're literally designed for this.
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>>41108435
most women do not fit this description and are being manipulated into self-destructive behavior
https://rumble.com/v5s8qb2-the-donut-lickers.html?e9s=src_v1_cbl%2Csrc_v1_ucp_a
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>>41112571
They didn't have an Incel problem.
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>>41113741
>They didn't have an Incel problem
Because they had a patriarchy. Also, contemporary society doesnt have an incel problem either. When people say we have an "incel problem" they mean you have a generation of disaffected men who are being discriminated against by a system that pumps money and resources into women and immigrants and gives preferential treatment to "minorities" (who are ironically the majority right now). And while doing all of this, the general standard of living is going down, crime is going up, and the spiritual health of our society is decreasing. The "incel problem" is the fear that men will crawl out of their present station in life and topple the completely ineffective and morally corrupt leadership of our present society. And if this day ever comes, there is nothing a society of useless "Gen Z bosses in a mini" will be able to do about it. This all presumes western society won't have already been conquered by China or Russia (patriarchal societies btw) because our idiot women will have handed all of western civilization to them through their sheer hubris and stupidity.
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This is probably a bait thread, but let me just say that women can't even lead a book club without there being deep internal drama or politicking. Men meanwhile can run entire organizations in secret for thousands of years. Men have carried the burden of civilization on our backs since the very dawn of it. Meanwhile, every single matriarchy ever known barely progressed beyond some tribal long house.

Women can make babies, but men make everything else. Women are incapable of leading civilization anywhere but into the ground. Not that we aren't trying to give women the keys to the kingdom, but every step forward we take makes shit fall apart even faster lmao
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>>41114609
>Men meanwhile can run entire organizations in secret for thousands of years.
excellent point



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