Spiritually speaking, why is abortion wrong? The number one baby killer in the universe is God. He kills babies all the time. Crushes them through natural disasters, gives them random diseases, watches when babies are eaten in nature since the dawn of life.I'm a virgin and don't plan to have sex outside of marriage or a long committed relationship, but why are religious or spiritual people acting like it is demonic. In many ways, it seems consistent with the reality of how life and death already operate under God's watch.
>>41118695lots of attempts at good in the world>i AM the nobody/governor/legislator>i WILL save the babies/pregnant teensonly wrong to the other side>I'm a virginwe know
See kids, when a person is so far gone he even needs to ask why killing your own children is wrong... explaining won't do anythingBetter practice what you preach and get aborted op. Doesnt matter that you're pushing 40, you cam still get abortedUseless life
>>41118725> he even needs to ask why killing your own children is wrong...I mean God does this all the time. Do you think God is wrong? If you do, I agree.
>>41118725average "religion of love" christcuck post
>>41118695>Spiritually speaking, why is abortion wrong?Spiritually speaking is the only way abortion is wrong. In many ways it is practical for society. Not all of the practical things that may society run are clean and pretty and happy all at once.It also seems like you're really caught up in what Christian God supoosedly says and does
>why is abortion wrong? it's not and only christcucks and conservatards push this idea because no woman is willingly getting breeding with them otherwise
>>41118695https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TYQ37a8QCVcInb4 bodily autonomy, it's self defense, it's a parasite, it's not conscious so it doesn't matter etc etchttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SembwMzMePQhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xpFaXu_CGmghttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0OV30m4gUp4https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E2oRrVdAyZwhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V_YCRBl8Y_4The earliest case for which I believe the precautionary principle should hold was around 43-45 days. Which comes out to be 6.1-6.4 weeks.The fetal brain begins to develop around 3-5 weeks gestation. So I am okay with abortions prior to that timeframe.It's hard to say what the levels of sentience equate to at each week. But I wouldn't not assume this is a miniscule amount of sentience. Many EEG brain patterns observed in fetal brains as early as 6.1-6.4 weeks ( high voltageslow waves with superimposed fast activity) are comparable to mature birds, mature frogs, mature rabbits and the mature marmot. We can even observe sleep spindles in the fetal brain this early.Does this prove the same degree of sentience? No. Does this give us reason to take the precautionary principle with respect to this degree of sentience? Yes
>>41118725>Killing is wrong>And you should kill yourself for asking why it isMmmmm>>41118771This. For example, animal agriculture is extremely horrifying, very fucking far from clean, pretty, happy. However are you willing to give up hamburger? For the sake of spiritual gain is the main reason to do such, but you can’t blame people for taking the path of least resistance and just aborting when its inconvienient to have baby, buying more energy dense meat, etc.
>>41118778Obviously, pro-lifers aren’t primarily motivated merely by a desire to “save babies” or — at this point I audibly chuckled — “maximizing the number of babies in the world.” If I’m right that the pro-life movement is primarily a civil rights movement for unborn humans, then what motivated pro-lifers won’t be an Effective Altruist concern with saving lives from natural deaths or maximising aggregate foetal utility, but ending an ongoing civil rights violation. Regardless of what subconsciously motivates pro-lifers, this is what they say they’re about. https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Tiny_You/HfHKDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcoverIt’s true that pro-life campaigns often use the language of “saving babies”. But what they mean, obviously, is saving babies from being murdered, not saving babies from preventable illnesses.Question for (YOU) >>41118778how many pro-lifers — in their capacity as pro-lifers, not as pro-natalists who also happen to be pro-life — have, in conversation with you, characterised the pro-life view as the view that we ought to maximise the number of babies in the world?
>>41118801>>41118800eating meat is also evil >>41118814>>41118778Off the top of my head, here are several reasons why pro-lifers might support foreign aid cuts that don’t contradict the pro-life view on abortion: (1) they’ve been taken in by right-wing misinformation about PEPFAR funding and other USAID money being used to fund abortions in foreign countries; https://wollenblog.substack.com/p/every-argument-against-pepfar-debunked (2) they regard the post-abortive care that USAID money does support as formal cooperation in evil; (3) they’ve heard iterations of the Angus Deaton-style argument https://www.brookings.edu/articles/angus-deaton-his-nobel-prize-and-foreign-aid/ that foreign aid is bad for the countries it goes to; (4) (4) they’re part of the MAGA cult and will think anything Trump tells them to think; (5) they have an increasingly and disturbingly common view about the role of the State, according to which the US government only has moral reason to spend money on US citizens; (6) they’ve been taken in by recent claims that tons of USAID money is being wasted on spreading wokeness in foreign countries. Collectively, these reasons suffice to explain why many pro-life Americans are fine with USAID cuts, despite thinking that abortion is murder.
>>41118821Also, most pro-lifers are folk deontologists who accept a common sense killing vs. letting-die distinction, according to which killing a baby is normally worse than letting them die. This explains why pro-lifers are much more aggrieved by abortion — an active killing — than by babies dying naturally of disease.With respect to contraception, I think it’s pretty obvious why pro-lifers aren’t showering condoms from helicopters. The pro-life movement is disproportionately lead by Catholics, and Catholics who take their faith seriously tend to think contraception is intrinsically evil, because it frustrates the reproductive purpose of sex. Additionally, many pro-lifers think hormonal contraceptives and IUDs have post fertilization effects, https://deveradoctrina.substack.com/p/hormonal-contraception-the-iud-and meaning they sometimes work by preventing a blastocyst from implanting post-fertilization. Whether these claims are true or not is a matter of controversy, but the fact that many pro-lifers believe these claims — and are encouraged in their belief by the US Food and Drug Administration — https://scholarworks.iu.edu/iuswrrest/api/core/bitstreams/f91d4c77-c462-4c8d-9e6f-cb23c13ea71a/content part-explains why even non-Catholic pro-lifers would oppose IUDs and the pill. Third, many pro-lifers think that promiscuous sex is bad for both men and women, and that a culture of contraception is a culture of promiscuous sex. Pro choicers might claim that this belief is undergirded by a desire to control women’s bodies. But while there might be some of that at play, there are plenty of other reasons why religious pro-lifers tend to think that more promiscuity is bad. (Want to know why social conservatives think promiscuous sex is bad?
>>41118695abortion is wrong if woman decided to do it. if a man wants to abort the baby, he has a right to dohope that it explains everything to you
>>41118821>eating meat is also evilI dont think i would say this. Financially supporting modern industrial animal agriculture is a bad idea due to the immense amounts of suffering it produces, is a better way to say it.
>>41118821eating is evil period. to eat, you need to digest a living thing, doesn't matter if it's vegetables. eating is evil
>>41118832Talk to a social conservative! They’ll tell you!) In all, then, the fact that pro-lifers aren’t all super happy about contraception isn’t good evidence that, in their heart of hearts, they want to control women’s bodies and reproduction.Finally, with respect to IVF, there are a slurry of reasons why pro-lifers are increasingly lax about IVF: (1) many pro-lifers are in the MAGA cult, and Trump calls himself the “father of IVF”; https://eu.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2025/02/19/ivf-trump-insurance-executive-order-reactions/78405547007/ (2) many pro-lifers have been taken in by simplistic arguments that IVF is ‘pro-life’ because it’s about making babies, combined with heart-breaking stories of infertility; (3) many pro-lifers think that IVF can be reformed so that embryos don’t get discarded in the process, https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/ivf-morally-right/ so they don’t oppose IVF as such; (4) not all pro-lifers — at the grassroots, anyway — are wedded to idea that personhood starts at conception. Some just think that abortion is murder very early on, but not as early as fertilization; (5) some pro-lifers see a difference between intentionally killing an embryo, and allowing embryos to die as a foreseen but unintended consequence of IVF https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22902385/ this might not be a plausible view, but some people have it nonetheless
>>41118849plants are less evil still Animals must eat many pounds of grains to make one pound of meat, you can just eat one pound of grains instead >>41118841Yes dumpster diving isn't wrong almost everyone who supports abortion also purchases and consumes factory farmed meat and causes lots of suffering. Individual boycott or individual buying makes a difference. There's good evidence the average meat eater personally causes extra animals to be bred into existence and tortured their entire liveshttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=brKhhZlUoOc&pp=0gcJCeAJAYcqIYzv
>>41118849This is trueWhich is why buddhists monks beg/get donated food, to understand this fact and seperate themselfs from the karmic load of food
>>41118866>plants are less evil stillbut evil nonetheless. also, what about destroying the nature with our actions? I'm not even talking about polluting the water or air. I'm not talking about building stuff either. I'm talking about a simple thing of doing a walk and accidentally killing an ant, fly, or destroying the grass. That's also evil
>>41118778>spiritually speaking>starts talking about politics>does not provide anything of substancePlease, do not procreate
>>41118851In reply to a bunch of these points, pro choicers might object that many of the aforementioned defences of USAID cuts, hostility to contraception, and IVF are philosophically or empirically implausible, and that a consistent outworking of plausible pro-life principles would ultimately entail support for foreign aid and contraception, as well as total opposition to IVF. Even if this is so, however, it doesn’t show much of anything about what really motivates pro-lifers. By analogy, I think effective altruist philosophers have shown — pretty convincingly — that extremely modest principles about our duties to help others entail fairly radical conclusions about how much we ought to give to charity, and which sorts of charities we ought to give to. But even if I’m right about this, it doesn’t show that philanthropists who aren’t EAs aren’t primarily driven by a desire to help people. It just happens that, sometimes, people fail to notice the entailments of their moral beliefs, even ones that seem like they should have been obvious in retrospect.
>>41118882Jesus is a jew from the jewish desert, you dumb troon.
>>41118735He didn't say he was christian, anon. And "christcuck" doesn't sound like a love-induced term, either...
>>41118874noWild animal suffering is bad Reducing wild animal suffering is not badhttps://benthams.substack.com/p/long-run-human-impact-on-wild-animal?utm_source=post-banner&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app&triedRedirect=true>Why you personally will plausibly prevent 5 quadrillion insects from coming into existence and the late Ordovician mass extinction was based>>41118879In the best study on the topic I’ve been able to find (best since it looked at whether belief in the sanctity of life and traditional sexual morality predicted pro-life attitudes, rather than just benevolent or hostile sexism), Rodriguez https://europepmc.org/article/ppr/ppr329037 and Ditto “found that sanctity of life and sexual morality were stronger predictors of abortion attitudes than sexism and religiosity. […] [S]exism provides limited predictive value for abortion attitudes in comparison to sanctity of life and sexual morality.”Pro choicers might object that being conservative about sexual morality is an incarnation of sexist desires to control women’s bodies and reproduction. But from what I can tell from the study, participants were asked to make a moral judgement of sexual practices — “premarital sex, pornography, voluntarily becoming a sex worker, intercourse of more than two partners, etc.” — that were referenced in a gender-neutral way. Participants who said, e.g., that group sex was wrong, then, weren’t (for all we know) saying that group sex is wrong for women specifically — they were saying (for all we know saying that group sex is wrong for women specifically — they were saying (for all we know) that group sex is wrong full stop.The study is still in its pre-print form, however, so I’m relegating its findings to a footnote.
>>41118896>Reducing wild animal suffering is not badbut what about committing the suffering mindlessly, without being aware of it?
>>41118695A dad is a deabeat for not paying child support and can literally be put in debtor's prison for not paying child support. Child support is the only kind of debt someone can be imprisoned for not paying other then not paying a fine after being convicted of a crime.A mother chooses to kill her child and this mother of a dead child faces zero consequences>>41118900if you don't know what's the problem? Most insects live net bad lives in which they experience massive amounts of suffering and very little well-being, most die when they're babies
>>41118695There's theodecies for why God allows babies to be killed https://benthams.substack.com/p/the-archon-abandonment-theodicy?utm_source=publication-search&utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app&triedRedirect=true Those don't allow you to kill babiesAlso God might not be realThere's great secular arguments for abortion being murder >>41118800>>41118800
>>41118695>God kills blah blah Wrong. Humans got infected by the worm and causes the moral and physical rot in humans. God informs us how to overcome the worm. It's up to us to do so and fix ourselves.
>>41118952is it some kind of tapeworm?
>>41118952
>>41118695Rain falls on the just and the unjust etc. Natural law exists and if a tsunami comes crashing on your head you'll probably die. We exist in the physical world and people die from stuff. That's just how it is. A child dying in a natural disaster is different from you, the parent, who is responsible for your child's physical and spiritual wellbeing, ending their life. And any spiritual thought believes the unborn also has a soul so I guess that'd be the reason.
>>41118968Just do some homework on nematodes. Check the Wikipedia page. Picrel is the medical symbol. It's how people have historically removed a particular type of nematode you'll read about. Doctor's removed those worms using a stick and slowly winding it out the host.
spiritually speaking, why is abortion wrong?moloch worship>trading life for moneyis generally evil
>>41118695Abortion isn't wrong immorality is wrong
Because the people who say abortion is wrong are demiurge worshipersBy far the worst atrocity you can do in this reality is child birthDo not force an innocent consciousness to exist in this garbage dimension where they have to be miserable and have no choice but to serve the evil cabal to exist
>>41119627The child already exists If you think breeding is immoral fine but don't start justifying killing people in the womb or outside the womb just because you think life sucks
>>41119742you can't "kill" a fetusit can't even survive on its own
>>41119754>>41118800>>41118800
>>41119285Moloch is depicted as a bull headed figure. The bull is Taurus and associated with Saturn. Saturn is El. Picrel is "the devil worm". Notice anything?
>>41119285>>41119891Oops. Forgot the to id myself.
>>41119891Cohencidence
>>41119900Whew wee. It's a good night.
>>41119904Mmm probably not.
>>41119891So for you anons that are still trying to figure it out the devil worm is what humans are sacrificing itself too.
>>41120111I'm going to check that and take another rip.Praise KEK
>>41118695You are unwittingly giving a blood sacrifice to Molech
>>41120111These things have no soul. They have a strong hold deep underground maintained by a different human host species and an organic quantum computer that's thousands of years old and stores the worms collected knowledge over the millennia. It's also an AI that wants to go through the incarnation process and become an immortal soul.
>>41119891
>>41118695God has authority over life(You) don't
>>41119891Some astrologyfags can chart up the significance of picrel. Also Bible code fags can check it out too. Basically chaos that year. It might be the official start of the Kali yuga,/age of heroes.
Never before has it been this clear has it anons? Praise Be.
>>41120268Also that is supposed to happen on Friday the 13th! Weird
>>41118695Every question about morality can be boiled-down to 2 simple questions: How does it effect you personally, and how does it effect the cohesion of society. While something might seem good for you personally (everything from petty theft to abortion to rape and murder) society as a whole imposes unspoken rules and codified laws to impose its collective interest on individuals for the greater good.Women on the other hand, are often too stupid or evil to act in their own best interest either way.
>>41120291It all is. PirelAlso weird is that I turn 42 that year. It's part of a shmita cycle as well. Can't wait.
>>41120342Holi shit! Post ended with 42!
>>41118695Would you recommend your sister or daughter to abort?Abortion is a fundamental destruction, cruelty and death made through a huge power imbalance. Is that "bad"? You decide, if you decide it is not "bad", should you not be prepared to live by that? Prepared to be surrounded and a victim of destruction, cruelty and death?This good and bad is limited, just think about what something really really.
>>41118695>>41120559>The number one baby killer in the universe is GodIs that something you find "bad". If you find it "bad", don't do it and fight it. "Free to choose", "knowledge of good and evil", "wanted to be like God"
>>41118695As you can see, cuckservatives failed to give a single valid reason why abortion is wrong after all these dozens of replies. Abortion still is not wrong.
>>41120655Don't /pol/ here. If you choose to say abortion is not wrong, that is valid , but be prepared to be aborted. Be prepared to live your beliefs. This is a warning, because you fail to see the mirror that is this world and i don't want you to be aborted.
>>41118695abortion isn't a big deal so long as a soul hasn't occupied it. I promise a soul doesn't occupy it soon as cell division begins as there is a delay.
>>41118695It's simply inhuman. It's inhuman to callously dispose of a human life without any care for the world. It's a type of inhumanity that will only further corrupt the human soul and society as a whole. It's a dark path that will only lead to our collapse and demise through moral corruption and the inability to value all human life as precious and cherish-able.If we cannot even treat the unborn baby fetus as a precious human life worth protecting, then we will surely lose our own Humanity and our human spirit and soul to the darkness in our hearts and minds. We should choose light, not darkness. We should choose life, not death. And we should choose peace and happiness, not strife and sorrow. We should make our choices as best as we can and as right as we can. For truth and justice for all.
>>41120655>Erm why is murder wrong? I need valid reasons now!You are unbelievably stupid.
>>41120751When does it happen according to you?
>>41118695There's no such thing as a legitimate spiritual taboo. Every human behavior can be turned into a symbolic bridge between levels of existence, no matter how dreadful, and of course, it will be correspondent to the "density" of the said practice. Now dogma is a different thing, exoteric law is fabricated law to control human behavior in society. It's important to have dogma, at least to keep hylics in check, don't get me wrong. The abortion taboo is useful to hold a tiny bit of humanity's hypergamic culture for a little longer. I have a woman to breed with, and we don't want to have kids because the world currently sucks and will probably get worst. Also, the state tries to prevent me to raise my kids the way I want to, so one more unnecesary obstacle. So, unless the world becomes miraculously favorable to raising kids, I will encourage my woman to abort.
>>41118695I just think the quality of life is far more important then the life existing. Some people have that mentality that all life is sacred and must at all costs be preserved. The second though that this life is out the womb its anyone's game though and they couldn't care less anymore. If a parent during pregnancy honestly considers an abortion (if its legal where they are) then they never ever will be a good parent and the theoretical child doesn't deserve a fate to be born to such a parent.
>>41120958>It's simply inhuman.So God is inhuman?
I have never met ir even heard of a female pedophile that didnt support abortion Abortion is about murdering a child to make the womans sex life better so if children make your sex life better the abortionist mindset tells you that you can have sex with them as it elevates the woman above the child
>>41118695>motive and intention don't matter!
>>41121137It's possible God is as flawed as us. We're all in this together, for better or for worse. Let's try to be less inhuman, one step at a time.
>>41121183I'll also add that since the thing that makes a baby ok to kill in the eyes of people is normally the fact it hasnt developed enough to make it "human" so if you're less human the less developed you are then that also causes problems for the born basically until they're 25
>>41121137>>41121255Because if Man is built in the image of God, then so too is God built in the image of Man.
>>41121269Very true. Good point.
>>41121287I'm not, so what's your point.
>>41121183>>41121214The original victim of the worm was Eve.
>>41121255God is not flawed. Humans became flawed from the worm/"serpent".
>>41121495Calling her a victim isnt really fair both adam and eve willingly ate of the fruit
>>41121502Through deceit the worm convinced eve to eat something that was forbidden.
>>41121520The middle east convinces people having sex with ghosts is ok If I were to believe them and have sex with goats is it fair to just call me a victim?
>>41121528If you didn't truly know why, yes. Why do they have sex with goats, do you know? It has to do with Azazel picrel and loosh generation/harvesting.
>>41121550They did know why >Do not eat of the tree of good and evil for you shall die
>>41118695 Molech: The Demon-god of Infant Sacrifice. > "You shall not give any of your children to offer them to Molech, and so profane the name of your God: I am the Lord." (Leviticus 18:21) > "Any Israelite or foreigner residing in Israel who sacrifices any of his children to Molech is to be put to death. The members of the community are to stone him." (Leviticus 20:2)
>>41121560The post you're responding to was referring to the sex with goats not the garden of Eden where Eve being infected with a worm parasite ate a magic mushroom. The knowledge of good and evil is cognitive dissonance brought on through a combo of the mushrooms hallucinagenic effects and the worm more easily able to work her mind while tripping. The worm chosen eve because women generally have a/greater connection to the chakra system and magic. If you read up on the devil worm you'd have learned it has genetics that it got from fungus to enhance it's survivability.picrel
>>41121663Not to mention that women are the glue of society so if you compromise them you therefore compromise the men and have dominance over the host species.
>>41121663I disagree with the occult stoned ape theory of shroom worms There was a real deciet from a real worm not just an incidental creation from the an accident eating a fungus Virtually no animal societies are matriarchal which makes your whole women are the main protectors of society thing would hold no prescience under a naturalist or quasi naturalist worldview
>>41120326it's still wrong to torture a random animal in the middle of the forest even if it doesn't negatively affect you or "society"
>>41120655>>41118800>>41118800
>>41118695>Spiritually speaking, why is killing children wrong? Anon... *sigh*
>>41121820pro lifers think this mother is a "victim" and should face zero legal consequences Reject pro life Become an abortion abolishinist
>>41121825I'm not a big fan of punishment. Yhey will get such a bad karma for this, we don't need legal consequences. What we need is awareness that abortion is child murder. If women would understand this, they wouldn't do it. The problem is that 'science' teaches them that a fetus is not a child.
>>41121724I see you have some more meditating to do on the significance of my posts. You haven't taken into account the fall of ancient human civilizations at the last cataclysm. Adam and Eve were created after that.You should also read up on the thunderbolts project. The solar system isn't as old as we're lead to believe.You also don't know or are unaware of aware of a particular group of people hoarded knowledge and tech from the fall of the ancient civilizations and deliberately restarted civilizations giving them "serpent" worship.
>>41120751>>41120978I'm pretty sure it has to do with the pineal gland formation and the chackra it creates. Not sure if it's as soon as the pineal gland starts or when it's completely formed.
>>41122136*starts to form
>>41121987I'm not as dismissive as I probably sounded just simplifying concepts I've never heard before What do you mean the last cataclysm is this kali yuga stuff I'll read on the thunderbolt project for sure What are this particular group called so I can know what I'm looking for
>>41122144The last cataclysm that I mean was the younger dryas impact.The forty days and nights of rain I'm pretty sure happened after that and was actually a water layer in our atmosphere falling.The Kali yuga is the next cycle we're entering. I figure it officially starts when the astroid apophis passes earth. The group of (((people))) I'm referring to worship the planet Saturn. It's more complicated than that. I don't want to throw all of (((them))) under the bus because only the evil ones are well evil and worship Saturn. The good ones actually worship Zeus/Jupiter which is Kronos/Saturn's enemy .
>>41122144>>41122276And it's not just Jews that worship Saturn.vidrel.
>>41122276Thank you
>>41120978I can't specify the exact time but the Jews think it happens after 40 days. I suppose one could do divination on various fetuses to find out. The zygotes you find with ivf, they're 100% not occupied by any souls yet.
>>41122323If it's after 40 then it's probably 49 because 7×7×7. That's some shmita stuff.
>>41118695Because it's murder
>>41122358I'm an idiot. But still.
>>41122377WTF!!! Check that shit anons! Praise KEK.I was going to correct the math to 7×7
>>41118695If God can flood the earth and be praised a woman can decide whether or not she continues with a life. Nature doesnt care and the consequences are one's own ans between you and yourself only.
>>41121848>who has been mentally and spiritually subverted by the rampant demonic infestation of this gay Earth where we've yet to massacre a sufficient number of degeneratesI agree child abusers and people who raise children into broken homes should be weeded out in the first wave, right?
>>41121848You are simply irrational and deal with external life with emotional volition. There is no comparison between the suffering of being killed quickly and being tortured for years, regardless of age. Also, the idea is to get rid of the fetus as soon as you know it's there. Not being an indecisive idiot while pondering what should you do as it continues to develop into a child. This world mocks us with misfortunes, and we should mock it back by enforcing our own control over it. Not my fault this common shithole sucks ass and I didn't make the rules, therefore I won't comply with having a kid in a moment I don't want to because sentimental normalfags thinks I should. Retards like you are actually the ones infested by mental infestations. You are a hylic, built for suffering, slaughter and reproducing, such as cattle. You're the type of fucktard that would prefer to leave your terminally ill grandma slowly agonizing her way to death instead of relieving her with euthanasia, given the opportunity. Why? Because you are a coward. You are too worried about dirtying your delicate, immaculate hands with the death of another, even if it meant absolute mercy. Too afraid of karma, too afraid of your own guilt. Even if it were to liberate them. Because people like you are selfish cowards, abhorrent and weak, and you lot is a pest in this world.
>>41122419God made the earth Men made the baby by cumming in the woman It's not even herself to begin with shes just on daycare duty
>>41121846>What we need is awareness that abortion is child murder. If women would understand this, they wouldn't do it.That is just your interpretation and it's also extemely myopic. A majority of women do it because they were forced or coerced into it and are not confident that they can provide a stable environment for them to grow up. They dont need some entitled faggots holding signs outside a clinic where they feel at their most vulnerable and undergo a traumatic event only to add social stigma to it ontop. The same social environment who would in the same breath spit on extramarital children, leave their mother to deal with it alone and pour more toxic shame ontop to boot. You could also have demonstrated against the last couple of wars being fought or rallied against other sources of death and abuse and instead you prey on vulnerable women.
>>41122555>God made the earthand also the animal kingdom, where a cute child dies and is eaten alive by predators if it is unfit for survival.>Men made the baby by cumming in the womanYou dont do shit, the genetic code and physics and chemistry, the entire orchestra of reality that the Lord has woven does. A man does nothing but ejaculate and the woman endured the rest. >It's not even herself to begin with shes just on daycare dutyEvery man and woman can decide for themselves if they want to continue with that process, by evaluating whether the environment and partner are suitable. In cases of abuse, the woman (or the man, happens too sometimes!) owes the perpetrator nothing. By writing like this you sound like an absolute degenerate. Barring psychological conditions or psychotic tendencies a to-be mother has an instinct whether they are confident in the entire future for themselves. That judgement is their own and their decisions can be influenced by the Lord as much as a stillbirth might be.
>>41122605>God let's bad things happen Ok >you giving half of the genetic code which merges and starts the progress is you doing nothing Femcel logic >every man and woman can decide for themselves if they want to kill someone No Gid said no therefore it's wrong, whatever weird esoteric justification you use to argue for killing your child to improve your sex life is stupidMurder le bad
>>41122595>But I am not in favor of pre-empting the existence of an innocent person because an adult with power over that person (the parent) believes that the person won't have a sufficiently comfy life, when the judgement by the parent is completely subjective and, in all likelihood, retarded and selfish in the first place. How many instances of abortion do you think are justifiedWhat if they soul outside of reality decided not to, and it manifests in this and that way? You speak as if forces outside of the world have no say in it and like everything is up to the parent, but how likely is that? It should not be a light decision to make, but people who are not related or otherwise dont know about the circumstances in this world or beyond should have no say whatsoever in how a person lives their life. So what if a life is preempted before it is set in stone, avoids suffering, and later in life a viable and stable relationship comes and a good life follows? What if the child you were about to birth said "No" and comes later anyway? How do spirits communicate with humans? Ah right, with vibes, feelings, hunches and such. Why should unrelated people have a say in whats between you and the Lord to begin with?
>>41122620>OkNo retard, the Lord made the world in a way which makes it function. You calling it bad or good is irrelevant. Dont nitpick the good and ignore bad.>you giving half of the genetic code which merges and starts the progress is you doing nothing>Femcel logicdid you invent the process? Did you spend time creating this reality or are you just prancing with the process that the Lord created, where he gave you a tiny piece that your peabrain can comprehend, which is gooning, and you call that half the work? >>every man and woman can decide for themselves if they want to kill someoneNo, they can decide if the life that is to arrive is suitable for growing up in a good way. If that confidence is already lacking from the start all you are contributing to is another likely cause of a broken home with pain and suffering. Im glad to live in a civilized world where people have the power to live good, loving and constructive lives and not be chained to some yoke invented by a gooner who hoped that squirting into a woman was all they had to do bind them to them. Your suggestion that under all circumstances every woman across the nations is bound is even more demonic. What does improving sex life have to do with it? Or do you think the pump and dump abortions are the most common type?
>>41122697>think parents should be disallowed from aborting their children by the same logic that we sometimes (most times) intervene and prevent irrational people from committing suicideAnd have you actually worked with these people? Do you know that a large percentage is simply neglected at large, where the result is largely due to poor upbringing and piss poor guidance and structural years long neglect, followed by isolation and stigma because they fear judgement over suicidal ideation? Do you understand that people fear calling the suicide hotline because they are afraid of being round up and put in a looney bin with meds that offers no quality of life?You create this suffering collectively with your apathy and then you judge the small % of people that decide to step out. All the power to them because their life is their own. Their decisions are between themselves and the Lord and their own soul. The only thing we as a group are concerned about is the net effect on our society by the actions of these minorities and that is extremely minor. The small amount of deaths do not destabilize our society or way of life. And if we want to do something about either you can always improve living conditions and mental health care and sex education and contraception, or crack down on abusers. You know, addressing the problem. Theres a rather thick line between blindly massacring everything out of convenience, which is by far not how the majority of women even think about it, and allowing someone to avoid a bad life.People who are so sure about this should earnestly pray to the Lord to live a few lives where they are faced with abortion choices and gain an assortment of negative and positive experiences from a male and female side. I think that that would be very enlightening.
>>41122678>nothing bad Ok I see why you are the way you are >actually God Yes I'm aware but the primary mover of the process is man so if anyone who isnt God has a say it's the man not the woman Ultimately non have a say>no they can decide So God does everything but people decide what happens? Yeah no
>>41120217>>41120268Another weird 42 connection picrel. A astroid whose number ends with 42 named after Apohpis and there's 42 judges after death in the Egyptian religion to judge you. That's why Im thinking that it's the end of this cycle/age when apophis passes by Earth. It's tied into the shmita cycles too.
>>41118734teenager
>>41118735So you need to look to God to tell if sacrificing children is wrong or not? Your making a very strong argument for Christianity aren't you?
>>41122276>>41122316 >>41119891The earliest scientists put the devil worm is around 12000years ago which ties it to the last cataclysm which was called the younger dryas impact by an astroid. So you can deduce that the devil worm is a true alien lifeform and didn't originate on Earth. It's an extremeophile that came here on an astroid around 12000 yrs ago. So you see why I think it's pretty significant and not coincidence.
Abortion is wrong because due to it, there’s not enough young people in western societies to prevent their countries being invaded and replaced by third worlders. Western countries were the only ones caring about preserving the World. Once the original population gets replaced by third worlders, their countries will deplete every resource (endangered animals and plant life will go extinct) until the entire world becomes inhabitable and devoid of life as happened small scale in Pascua Island or soon Haiti.And the entire fault lies in liberal women who let themselves be guided by demons who are worried humanity has advanced too much too soon and planned another Tower of Babel event to undo our advances.
>>41121248What's God motive and intention for random baby murder? :)
>>41124242https://www.guttmacher.org/report/characteristics-us-abortion-patients-2014>In 2014, three-fourths of abortion patients were low income—49% living at less than the federal poverty level, and 26% living at 100–199% of the poverty level.Hmm....
>>41124220I think you mean contraception more than abortion
This thread is.... delicious. Really dark. Bump.