To /x/ christians, do you think he had some kinda of spiritual training or practice in his 20s, did he meditate or something similar, or just woke up one day knowing he could do all those things? I personally don't buy into the "egyptian magic" thing cause the way Celsus write about it and the Talmud just seem to be out of spite and anger.The walking on water, multiplication of food,phasing through walls; all sound very close to the things described in the Yoga sutras of patanjali, So I think it may come from a place of purity and Union. What you guys think?
I think miracles are real, but I'm not sure he's a MAIN god. I think he's been misunderstood. The miracles he performed were performed by other deities before him. Rather, he simply proved that God, the spiritual world, and miracles (magic) are real.I'd also like to note that Jesus glowed after the Transfiguration.1. The Sumerians wrote that the gods wore melam, which made them glow very brightly.2. I've forgotten the name, but in Hinduism, there's a myth about a special stone given to them by the sun god; Krishna also wanted this stone for himself. The sun god was described as a small, copper man, but because of the stone, he glowed intensely.3. The Japanese Amaterasu glowed intensely and had the shape of a snake-dragon-fox (Europeans and Slavs also spoke of such creatures).
Perhaps Jesus acquired Siddhi/Siddha (it is noteworthy that the Irish Tuatha de Danann were also associated with Siddha), and the original teaching was hidden by the church
>>41121775Interesting, I heard that early christianity was full of secret teachings and possible esoteric stuff, so maybe this is correct
>>41121729Jesus is God and can be reached by simply calling His name with faith.As weird as it may sound, this faith to reach Him is also provided by Jesus Himself (Hebrews 12:2).You can reach Him by praying to Him to give the faith to reach Him and then calling His name.
>>41121729I believe Jesus received the Holy Spirit and represents the perfect blueprint for humanity. I'm still a recent born-again Christian but my faith is ever-growing. I do think so far that he MIGHT have received special teachings that have since been either blotted out or hidden, though they may have resurfaced later within other teachings around the world. Perhaps the early Desert Fathers knew something, but I have yet to really read up on them.
ok schizo post time. the strongest energy of any given area is what manifests. enough belief in this kind of thing and it will appear before you, but only in that specific area. i learned this on accident. the juice know this is why they portray in all media they control (everything western) to portray a extremely materialistic reality. they want to keep magic to themselves. now the same is true of your personal vessel, and if you believe strong enough you can do something then you can. hehe i abuse this so hard. visualize, energize, empower.. then the real trick let that energy take over your vessel. or aim it at something else lol. oh its so hax. anyone can do it as long as you meditate enough to have a silent mind, and master visualization and energy control haha. good luck muggles.
>>41121729Walking on water is symbolic of keeping your emotions in check and not drown in them.
Jesus was Celestial since birth, but he got activated in his baptism and got deactivated in the cross, when God (Holy Spirit) left him and he asked why he abandoned him.
>>41123153I always thought about that part too but was always scared to ask about it to other christians, it was like he was legit surprised, like "what happened to my powers?" or something
I love Jesus so much,bros
>>41121729He is the Word of God and the living Lord. There are no prerequisites to demonstrating His power.
>>41122140Theres a theory that John the Baptist teached him secret knowledge, but he was a "natural" already so he went above and beyond when it comes to miracles
>>41122085Amen. The perfect name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth has real power; in fact all power and dominion is His:Matthew 28:18 >And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.And that same name was used by His apostles to perform miracles themselves, all for the glory of God:Acts 3:6 - 8>Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.>And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength.
There must be an esoteric movement of Christianity. Yoga and meditation must be integrated with Christianity.Baptism must be performed naked (all early Christians were baptized COMPLETELY naked, no veils or anything else).Christianity is somewhat reminiscent of Shaivism. Asceticism, penance, love for the dead—look at the relics in Catholicism and Orthodoxy, skulls, body parts, all the churches built on the relics of saints—that's Shaivism.
>In the book A New Model of The Universe, the author writes the following:"According to tradition, the following historical personages belonged to esotericschools: Moses, Gautama the Buddha, John the Baptist, Jesus Christ, Pythagoras,Socrates and Plato; also the more mythical—Orpheus, Hermes Trismegistus,Krishna, Rama and certain other prophets and teachers of mankind. To esotericschools belonged also the builders of the Pyramids and the Sphinx; the priests of theMysteries in Egypt and Greece, many artists in Egypt and other ancient countries;alchemists; the architects who built the mediaeval " Gothic " cathedrals; the foundersof certain schools and orders of Sufis and dervishes; and also certain persons whoappeared in history for brief moments and remain historical riddles.It is said that at the present time some members of esoteric schools live inremote and inaccessible parts of the globe, such as the Himalayas or Tibet, or somemountainous regions of Africa. While others, according to similar stories, liveamong ordinary people"
One cannot have evil in his heart or it won't work anyway. Jesus was perfect.Siddhis/Siddha literally means perfection
>>41121729https://youtu.be/1lgMCLTMPN4?si=cbzUV1bZ04kK2v0n
>>41121729https://youtu.be/12bP56ADicM?si=N3xh8gD3xkOf4-U5
>>41122977Interesting, I never heard this interpretation before but that actually makes sense.
>>41121729He was, and still is, God in flesh.
>>41123403When I read about siddha/siddha, the Irish siddhis came to mind, but when I read that it was also connected to a mythical place, I realized it was definitely connected.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siddhaen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shambhala>In Hindu theology, Siddhashram is a secret land deep in the Himalayas, home to great yogis, sadhus, and sages (siddhas). This concept is similar to the Tibetan mystical land of Shambhala.>Siddhashram is mentioned in many Indian epics and Puranas, including the Ramayana and the Mahabharata. Valmiki's Ramayana states that Vishwamitra lived in Siddhashram, the former abode of Vishnu, when he appeared as the avatar of Vamana. He takes Rama and Lakshmana to Siddhashram to destroy the rakshasas interfering with his religious sacrifices.In Irish mythology, the Tuatha de Danann (Children of Danu) are the "Dun/Dan/Dun" (the "Danavas"). The rabbit hole associated with the Don/Dan/Dun is deep.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danava_(Hinduism)en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danu_(Irish_goddess)en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danu_(Hinduism)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynasty_of_Dunnum(the Sumerian gods were Danavas)The Greeks called themselves DanaansjorDAN (and after all, Jesus was baptized there)https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuatha_Dé_DanannPerhaps the Danavas are the same as the Tuatha de Danann (most likely true)They were also associated with the Sidhe (later completely merged with them), in a certain space. They also possessed a kind of concealing magical mist, and were later identified with fairies and elves. In Irish myth, it was written that the Children of Danu came across the sky in a fog and plunged the country into darkness for three days and three nights.
>>41123403>>41124390en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aos_Sí>Sidhe (anglicized "shee") is a burial mound (burial mounds) associated with the Aos Sí. In Modern Irish, the word is sí (plural síthe); in Scottish Gaelic, it is sith (plural sithean); in Old Irish, it is síd (plural). These sidhe are called "fairy barrows," "elf-barrows," or "hollow hills" in English.>The name "aos sí" means "people of the sí"; these are the burial mounds they are said to inhabit and are considered portals to the Otherworld. Such abodes are called "shees," "fairy barrows," "elf-barrows," or "hollow hills" in English. The aos sí interact with humans and the human world. They are called ancestors, nature spirits, goddesses, and gods.>In modern Irish, they are also called daoine sí; in Scottish Gaelic, daoine sith ("people of the fairy barrows").>In Irish, the word aos sí, formerly aes sídhe, means "people of the fairy barrows." In Old Irish, it was áes síde. The word sí or sídh in Irish refers to a fairy mound or ancient burial mound, believed to be a portal to the Otherworld. It derives from the Proto-Celtic *sīdos ("abode") and is related to the English words "seat" (place) and "settle" (to settle).>David Fitzgerald suggested that the word "síd" is synonymous with "immortal" and is compared to words such as "sidsath" ("they wait/remain"), "sithbeo" ("eternal"), "sidbuan" ("eternal"), and "sidbe" ("long life"). Most tales of the sí imply long life.https://atlanticreligion.com/2015/10/11/parallels-in-indo-european-religion-sidhe-and-siddha/Siddha and Siddhe - superpowers - places associated with special beings (fairies, yogis, elves, etc.)
>>41123809The bread and fish "miracle" is the word and wisdom respectively. There are darker meanings but I don't want to go into them here.
>>41124454There are contemporary "freestyle" interpretations of possible allegory yes, but the majority of texts indicate (even his detractors at the time who wrote and called him a wizard) that many if not all of these things were literal. Also Apostle John writes:>"Now there are also many other things that Jesus did. Were every one of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written"My hunch is that he did many other miracles in his 20's.
I also know that people do not read the OT, but Jesus performs the same miracles that the prophets did.
>>41123403Excellent book. Please read the great initiates by schure. His chapter on jesus is other worldly. Whole book is S tier.
>>41124568because He was fulfilling everything that those OT shadows were pointing to, just as with Him being a Priest and King and Sacrifice and so on.
>>41123190If Christ was fully God and fully Man, that means, it bears repeating, fully Man. He would experience all the despair of being killed, the pain, the suffering. Men normally cry out to God "why is this happening?!" I just see it as the full experience. If you attempt to evoke spirits then you'll see that many times they relish even the negative emotions after all.
>>41124631Will do, Thanks!
>>41124677was also quoting Psalm 22
>>41124534Have you ever explored or heard of the theory Jesus was a serpent cult leader spreading the sin then finally got found out and arrested and crucified? Then his image on the cross was meant to be a warning to the serpent worshipers and be a lesson to others not to get involved with serpent worship? That the pagans creating the Catholic Church putting paganism/Sun worship into a monotheistic framework to counter monotheistic worship of the serpent/Saturn? Being the cross is the unfolded cube of Saturn thus signifying the Sun and Liberty from the worm/serpent and Saturns influence. I'm not saying this is the actual truth of it, I'm just saying it's an interesting rabbit hole to explore.
>>41121793>I heard that early christianity was full of secret teachings and possible esoteric stuff, so maybe this is correctIt's all explained here:https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/comments/1m0px7o/attention_at_least_one_rapture_has_already/Alt URL (easy to remember; redirects to the post):https://www.truth-now.org
>>41124754The Gnostics thought Jesus was the serpent from Eden, but I'm not sure.
>>41124822Schizo text.
>>41121729jesus didn't exist. how come there's zero writings about him that were written during his lifetime? other people like the philosopher Seneca is written a lot about and lived during jesus's lifetime. If what the bible says is true that he was a very famous healer who done miracles and people from all over came to him then there absolutely should be writings about him from his time. and yet no one ever mentions him but after a 100+ years after his death. It's pretty clear that his existence is fabricated.
>>41124870>>41124754the gnostics are retarded but yeah jesus would sometimes be represented as a snake not because he was seen as "evil" but because snakes represented renewal and wisdom
>>41124890Thanks for the bump
>>41124897Is it true that the snakes in ancient religions represent the spinal fluid and kundalini?
>>41124897>>41124920No. Because intelligent serpents were literally seen by people. On Mount Hermon (where the fallen will make a pact), snakes were worshiped. Thoth-Mercury introduced snake worship; according to Philo Byblos, the Egyptians called Geb-el-Kronos-Saturn the father of snakesThere are too many references to intelligent snakes, dragons, and other reptilesin religions, myths, legends, fairy tales, stories to think that everything is connected to spirituality. More precisely, yes, they imparted knowledge (often forbidden), but they themselves were also real (and they are among us). A snake doesn't live inside you.
>>41124897The caduceus was wrapped in live snakes, just in case.This has nothing to do with DNA etc
>>41123273Justin said something similar I think:https://youtu.be/82vxOBbYSzk?si=krqKOMLo_vuNsYwO
>>41123221https://youtu.be/3E1A4pLtFDY?si=1f_zgFRzWQPzoosU
>>41121729I was thinking about that in relation to the descriptions of Babaji's apparitions to his yogi friends.It is said that after the crucifixion, Jesus spent 40 days with his disciples, appeared to them to give teachings and instructions. The post-enlightment body of light, the now aquired power to appear and disappear at will anywhere, it resembles a lot Babaji's or even older tales, Buddha, The Eight Immortals.All the traditions that talk about the union with the divine, even gnostics, I think that's what happen when you finally "Light the spark" and unite with the One, you now can literally do anything you want as long as it doesn't interfere too much with the free will of others.>The kingdom of God is in your midst.
>>41124897That bottom left snake on a stick is the symbol on ambulances because the way to remove a certain type of nematode from the host body is/was to wind it out slowly from the host.. Pretty sure the caduceus is something to do with the Kundalini but I've also seen interpretations say it's the dote and antidote (snake venom and it's antivenom) working to raise your spirit or something. Not sure about the big middle one other than what it says.
>>41121729If other religions have secret sects that have this knowledge, it is safe to assume that Christian sects have it too. The Christian version is not so public.Magic skills come in lots of different religious flavours. But the actual techniques to achieve them are independent of religions/theology/ideology/isms. It's like learning how to cook pasta, it is independent of worldviews, anyone can learn it. You can easily pick up the luciferian version then use it as a Christian.
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>>41124454I'd like to hear it. Where can I read more?
>>41121756If he proved that God was real, how do you take "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life"? Why would a man who came as the message of God lie about this?
>>41121729Easy, matthew 4:2.40 days of fasting in the dessert seems like a good recipe for enlightment>>41124890Fear of ending up like him, fear of the kikes... Maybe? Also, maybe the texts exist but are hidden inside the Vatican
>>41129491I and the father are one
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>>41129731fast in the middle of a dessert is doing it in hard mode for sure
>>41121756Jesus was god incarnated into human formhe was just based like that and had the balls to say it
