A neo-Nazi told me that the Jews stole the knowledge of the Aryans/Norse and put it in the Kabbalah.The truth is, I don't know enough about ancient pagan culture, nor about Jewish culture. I ask the scholars of /x/ what do you think of what they say.>Is there any basis for this, or is it all bullshit?
>>41125610Nordic mythology was written after christ. The main two books are The Poetic Edda and The Prose Edda.
>>41125620Yet I live in France, and the first churches built had runic symbols, and besides, the religion of Clovis, the country of Christianity, was originally Nordic.>So how is it that these are the religions you consider to have appeared after Jesus Christ?
>>41125620the eddas were compiled by a christian and offer a christian slant, but are based on mostly oral-tradition folklore with roots long before christianityOP: a good rule of thumb is to ignore anything neonazis say, as it's usually projection and always useless. If they were smart or capable of great deeds, they wouldn't be neonazis
>>41125610I doubt it. Hebrews always passed down information orally, thats why people using old written works to try and say it dates older than the old testament/Torah can't be taken to account
>>41125665I'm not a neo-Nazi, but he had interesting discussions and was very eloquent. So I learned a lot from him. Afterwards, yes, since they have dogmas, let's just say their work remains limited.I have enormous respect for people who seek the primordial religion or authentic knowledge directly from the source. I think it's divided into fragments in quite a few religions, and so you have to go through, let's say, the trash heap of certain religions, of spirituality, to discover certain things.
>>41125610More likely it was developed based on the common understanding of Greek philosophy shared between Arab and Jews. The kabbalists and sufis did a lot of (intellectual) intercourse in places like Andalusia and Baghdad.
>>41125695he definitely wasn't eloquent and he had nothing interesting to say. I promise you any edgelord nazi esoterics guy is just regurgitating a half-understood version of stuff you could pick up lurking for a couple nights here, let alone doing genuine study
>>41125711In any case, spirituality, occultism, mysticism, it's not something that can be reproduced scientifically. Not that it doesn't exist, but it's difficult to reprogram, difficult to measure.
>>41125711And I forgot to add, in France, there are few conspiracy theorists, unlike in the United States. So we, generally, have your information ten years later. So when you talk about reptilian, human sacrifice, this kind of texts, most of these texts are not translated into French. And most French people only stay in their language. They are not particularly interested in English. So a lot of niche work, they don't have access to it. So that's why I found it interesting.
>>41125717i like u
>>41125610I've heard that kabbalism arose from jinns hiding writings on how to control the jinn (which are really just instructions on how to worship and submit yourself to them, doing that will get you something from them but they will take everything away from you. Way more than you offer, in short.) Under Solomons temple or something. Keep in mind Solomon's authority over the jinn was granted to him by God and no one else has or had this authority. Note how I said authority and not power. Think about that deeply.Kabbalah -> sorcery; jinn worshipSufism -> ??? Likely the same as kabbalahBeware of kabbalism and sufism, all of them and their like.The magician will never succeed, wherever he is.Search up dravonishere for more info. He's an ex occultist, but one thing to be of note is that opposes the salafi movement, so don't take everything he says as 100% correct.
>>41125803I'm not a Muslim, and even less so a Salafist. I knew friends in my circle who were. They are among the most miserable people I've ever seen in my life. They don't know how to have fun: they forbid themselves music, they forbid themselves from reading certain texts. Beyond the fact that it's part of their religious practice for them to quote Muhammad or scholars from Saudi Arabia, they are, for me, people without spirituality; very materialistic beings.Islam, as a religion, seems to me to be one of the most materialistic religions. We can debate this, but even the concept of paradise seems materialistic to me: we're not talking about the spirit, but rather about the bodyenlarged, certainly, but still the body (bodies thirty meters tall, for example).They have no right to knowledge; Their entire practice is focused outward, toward external forms and rules, rather than inward and toward inner experience. I don't say this maliciously, but because I experienced Catholicism when I was younger and I know the difference between a religion that directs one outward and a path that invites inner exploration.When I activated my "third eye" during a ritual, I recalled some of my past reincarnations. Islam denies reincarnation, which contradicts my experience. I read the Torah, the Bible, and the Quran, and I felt they came from the same energetic source, but it wasn't a positive energy for me: it was an energy of control and domination. I didn't find peace there.
>>41125610They stole most of their shit. They even stole monotheism from the Zoroastrians.
>>41125610Yes it's true. Christianity and Kabbalah trace back to the original Proto Indo European religion that worshipped "Dyeus" which is where Zeus came from and all "Sky Father" religions from the middle east which then spread outward from there, primarily westward and a bit south into north africa. The oldest complete mythology we have other than Proto Indo European "Dyeus" worship is the Sumerian religion with Anu (Sumerian Sky Father) and his Anunnaki.
>>41125610Also blue eyes emerged for the first time 6000 years ago. 6000 years ago is also when the Proto Indo European religion worshipping The Sky Father emerged. Adam (or the Adamic Race) is also said by biblical scholars to have been created exactly 6029 years ago this year.
>>41126983>>41126989The Proto Indo European religion only exists in fragments so that's why I mentioned the Sumerian religion being the second oldest but far more complete but the Vedic Religions should also be mentioned because they're roughly the same age as the Sumerian Religion. So those two religions are the oldest sources we have that exist in more than just fragments. Abrahamic religions just steal from these older Aryan religions.
>>41125610>Aryans/Norsewhyd you choose these instead of basque?>Lebor Gabála Érenn
>>41126989So wtf does having blue eyes mean, the real sons of Adam? I knew Evangelion was real, fuck you dirty Lilins give us our rightful planet back.
>>41127268only the blue eyed man looks to his neighbors house and thinks to himself - ya, i could do that better -
>>41125610Too much Joy of Satan.IMO most of what's known as "Aryan/Norse knowledge" is a 19th century invention, a remix of Kabbalistic teachings. We don't know much about our ancestors for certain.What's a white man to believe, then? Pray to wisdom gods for wisdom, and listen.What's a non-white man to do? The same.
>>41125610man...
>>41125665eww you are brown
>>41125711What about communist esoteric guys? Are they trustable sources of knowledge?
>>41125610>Jews stole the knowledge of the Aryans/Norse>evil whitey stole black man's knowledge, power and flying pyramidsWE WUZ
>>41128378Seething brownoidRedman?>>41125610Pic rel, ancient aryan technology, covered in Jew stars, they stole the symbols
>>41125665>ignore anything neonazis say, as it's usually projection and always useless(((You))) have no power here.
>>41125711>edgelordnigger shut the fuck up. The Himmler esoteric shit was gay, but the nazis did some good things. Did some bad things too. If you actually read anything about ww2 besides what (((they))) teach you, you might also dislike Jews and think "man, I wish for every kid I had, 1/4 of my home debt would be dissipated". You think to yourself think "wow, the Jews trying to starve the Germans into submission by boycotting them and thus denying them the necessary proceeds from their exports to import 2/3s of their food was kinda fucked! Especially after they were mad at the jews for the Balfour Declaration! Not to mention the fact that they threw a communist revolution in 1917 during the war!" Obviously, attacking the Prussian officer elite and not listening to them was retarded, though. A dictatorship is bad too, but please niggerfaggot, let's not act like the nazis were only le evil and people who think highly of Hitler are edgelords. I view Hitler like Jesus. Just a slightly retarded Jesus. Nazism was mainly a defense against communism too. Anyways, who's to say the nazis didn't know anything about the spiritual? They did become rather involved in the occult after all.
