Any goetia practitioners here? I'm planning on contacting Prince Stolas, any tips? Stories of contact would be appreciated
don't fuck up your mind with such bullshit>oh, look! I'm so powerful... oh, wow...this is ego bullshit. bad thoughts will make your life shittier
>Any goetia practitioners here?no
>>41140539don't bother with this shit it doesn't work
>>41140539No, I am a strictly Barbatos summoner.
>>41140539My two cents, others may think differently. Don't evoke daemons, invoke them. Don't use the traditional binding approach. Don't try to compel them to do anything. Always listen to their terms VERY attentively before agreeing. There will be chaos in your life, regardless of the service given, be very conscious about time. Time is a currency in Goetia. Master divination before dealing directly with Goetic rituals, you must know if the work is going to be beneficial to you beforehand and if the your energy is compatible with the demon. Many such cases of newbies invoking (or worse, evoking) daemons carelessly and getting badly fucked. That's because you don't simply prepare a bunch of materials and attempt to obligate a being like that to do your stuff. You have to know them at least a little bit. So, study more, read as much as you can about it, don't be afraid to bring your own concepts to it. Princes are mostly chill in comparison to Dukes and Kings. Remainder that "chill" doesn't mean they can't do horrid shit if you don't do things right. Because they can. Oh-ho boy, they can. >>41143195Why Barbatos only?
>>41143283>Listen to the terms of an evil entity and allow them to dictate the circumstances of your lifeCouldn't be me
>>41143283>Princes are mostly chill in comparison to Dukes and Kings.Ba'al was the most chill non-physical being I have yet met, surfer bro with chicks vibes.
>>41140539are u fucking kiddinglast night i had a nightmare pic relatedin my dream i called it tabernacel what the fuck is this thing? i need answers NOW it was such an intense dream
>>41143295>Listen to the terms of an evil entityMeh, they're as capable of doing evil as us human beings. That's why you don't call a random stranger to do your thing. You hire a reputable and efficient hitman, not a pacifist, lol.>allow them to dictate the circumstances of your lifeYeah, kinda. Their influence is temporary though, that's why you must do your part and establish a fucking deadline. Also, their actions were chaotic, but converged into solid results. I literally have nothing to complain. Honestly, don't think any type of magic is very different from Goetia in terms of mechanism. This material plane is rigged AF, everything is quite costly. So instead of choosing what will influence you, you weaponize your belief system until you get your results and keep your mind for yourself. A bit of a Chaos Magick knowledge, very underrated on /x/. >>41143350Very cool indeed. For some reason I'm very afraid of Bael, Asmoday or Paimon. Don't think I'll ever work with them, but there's time.
>>41143283>>Why Barbatos only?>When summoned, he appears "with four noble kings and their companions in great troops". Barbatos grants the ability to understand the spoken language of animals, such as the singing of birds and the barking of dogs. He reveals hidden treasures that have been concealed by the enchantment of magicians, gives knowledge of past and future events, and reconciles disputes between friends and those who hold power. Barbatos has 30 legions of spirits under his command, and once belonged to the angelic order of VirtuesHe is the most useful to my purposes
>>41140539Just be careful. They’ll grant you whatever you want. For a price.It’s better doing the LBRP for six months, then doing the LIRP in the mornings and LBRP in the evenings for another six months. Then doing that plus the middle pillar ritual around noon for 3 years and then doing angel magic for 5-10 years before doing the Ars Goetia as a means to do some massive shadow work and to gain the power over all things below you.
>>41140539Why would you do that? He's already having it bad in Hell.
>>41143454>Very cool indeed. For some reason I'm very afraid of Bael, Asmoday or Paimon. Don't think I'll ever work with them, but there's time.So long as you're not brown, you'll be alright with Ba'al I have no doubt.
>>41143782Bzzz bzzz.
>>41143454No they're evil. They will try to do mental gymnastics to fuck with you but they are definitely evil. Here is a conversation I had with one almost verbatim.>But you are evil.>"Evil to humans.">That's still evil. What am I? I'm a human>A few seconds of silence >"Shut up"Literally coping and seething. They aren't your friends but you're more cooperative if they can trick you into thinking they are. It's not that they're capable of evil, it's the opposite. They're evil but they're capable of being "nice" in order to get what they want out of people.
>>41143283>>41143350Any advice for Eligor/Eligos/Abigor?
>>41144133Praise Kek!
>>41144019Not my experience. There are different forces that are framed as demons (as the definition of "evil entities"), which is a co-opted term and a very misleading one. I don't think any of them is interested in befriending the magician, of course. They're all about their craft and how you could be of use to them and their own purposes, and so should be the magician while dealing with them. Each spirit have a whole egregore tied to them and a different line of work. If you are working with Andras for instance, it's quite difficult to expect anything good, since he's literally there to do evil deeds. Also, they are not strictly external beings. There are 72 demons and 72 angels within us, and much more. I know there are a lot of entities that are straight up sadistic and they could be called demons. Some of them are considered angels by the book. Occultism is the classical fuck around and find out scenario. I don't tend to respect much of this type of terminology, since they're not quite reliable in their definition. >>41144133Never worked with him. But the tips were not directed solely to Stolas, it's about Goetic Magic in general.
>>41145574What Goetic entities give you the best results?
>>41143283>My two cents, others may think differently. Don't evoke daemons, invoke them. Don't use the traditional binding approach. Don't try to compel them to do anything.>There will be chaos in your life, regardless of the service given, be very conscious about time.There's possibly a connection between this approach and the outcome>That's because you don't simply prepare a bunch of materials and attempt to obligate a being like that to do your stuff.They were contractually obligated by Solomon, and cannot leave the triangle until given license (or being pierced/broken by the magister), while lion pelts are expensive that's the value of upholding your obligations under the contract
>>41140539please don't try this, these beings literally would torture you and subvert your happiness if you let them, they don't share knowledge or power, they want your downfall
>>41145959That's why the text begins with several prior observations and conjurations in the names of God, who presumably (unless we've been misled) has the power to prevent them from such torture
>>41143782>be me>in a helluva boss thread>make a post about stolas, dont remember what i wrote>get a 666 get>a few moments later i get a steam pop up that a friend is playing something>his pfp is a barn owlkinda creeped me out ngl
>>41143190This. The demon comes to you, not the other way around.
>>41143357>>41146507what does it mean when its visiting in my dreams? why would he come for me (he didnt catch me in my dream)
Owl women...
>>41146598Say that again...
>>41146846Owl women.
>>41146959Damn right
>>41146598>>41146846>>41146959>>41147053Octavia's DFC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Also birdmom Stella is cute too in her own way.
>>41140539Please tell me you’re not going to try and fuck it
>>41147302Im not a degenerate, im legit asking to know. I don't even know which cartoon is this being spammed here...
>>41147276>DFCWhat?
>>41147276>>41147443Delicious Flat Chest.
>>41147477based, flat is justiceImagine how shes gonna look when she starts to grow taller, though
>>41147502
>>41145933Lion pelts are RARE, lmao.Plus, the rituals in goetia don't work at all. I tried asking Bune, she did nothing for me.
>>41143187I love this board.
>>41149016>SheGot bad news anon. Take a guess
>>41140539Why would I ever want to summon an owl with a tiny little crown?He’s not even a real prince.Someone just stuck a crown up there and laughed a lot.
>>41149121>hyperdimensional things appear as this or that>two circles laughing at the appearance of a circle that is sometimes a triangle>lol look at this triangle thing lol>it's a cone, they are seeing its shadow, which can appear as either to them.
>>41149148I get it, I see now. You are saying it’s not an owl with a tiny crown.Instead it is something behind some sort of human comprehension on another level and we see but it’s shadow on this realm.I see.I get it now.But how come it is an owl with a tiny crown tho bro that is useless. It is right there bro. Owl with a tiny crown.
>>41140539>>41143195>>41143283>>41143350>>41143454How does one reach this level of schizophrenia and retardation without ending up in a mental ward? None of this shit is real. You’re fantasizing and imagining things at best.
>>41149363Demon summoners are just harmless LARPers.
>>41143190This, 100%. But you're free to waste your life however you like
>>41149363one of us one of us one of us
>>41149363You are a soulless normalfag and probably a Fed too, you will never be able to comprehend the truth of the world. I pity you.
is it true that demons are influenced by our perception of them?i wonder how the gay demon show and its take on stolas might have changed the demon proper
>>41140539Pray to YHWH!
