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Books that will blow your mind/turn your psyche inside out like a psychedelic experience? Any suggestions like this? Books that are dangerous?
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>>41153597
Disinfo: The Book
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>>41153597
Robert Anton Wilson was part of a Discordian psyop called Operation Mindfuck, which aimed to mix occult truths together with pure bullshit in order to cause confusion and chaos among seekers
A real well-poisoning jackass
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A Thousand Plateaus anticipated what the internet would do to people's minds 30 years before it happened. Amongst many other things
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>>41154127
Prometheus Rising is one of the few "whoa this is deep" books that made any material difference in my life.

I found his first 4 circuits to be bang on, but the latter 4 get a little batty. It helped me think a lot about my ultra rational, ultra logical thinking and how I respond to dominance and absolute right because I'm stuck in the 3rd circuit.

This at least let me fake 4th circuit behaviors and actually got me into middle management. Figuring out the interplay betseen dominance of fact vs persuasion of feeling is a necessary step to assume any leadership.

Long story short, feelings don't care about your facts and if you can't navigate that, you'll forever be unconvincing.
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>>41154591
can you expand on this. youre saying managers should accept the mood swings of people as unavoidable to an extent? replying with a "stereotypically stoic" factual face ignores what they are really trying to communicate. to an extent you must not consider it "stooping to emotional coddling" but a necessary part of healthy management?
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>>41154537
and deleuze & guattari (moreso deleuze) did it all as a glorified shitpost. kind of amazing when you take a look at the historical context surrounding those two.
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>>41154618
Mood swings are a well known phenomenon. Even a literalist understands there are times when a person can't be reasoned with by logic. You have to contain and wait it out in order to move forward. The value in forgoing micro-justice is readily apparent.

I more mean, it's not enough to be right if.no one cares. Selling a car is the same process as motivating a team member or getting a woman to sleep with you. You have to understand them, help them see why they want to do what you need done.

What is fundamentally different about the 4th circuit is it isn't expressed in discrete ideas. It's in every interaction, how I explain things and how much one on one time I spend with them, Do I make them want to please me?

It's a form of vision. A lot of workshops and influencers will talk about what an optimal team should "look" like, the processes, communication etc. But they fail to describe what an optimal team should feel like. If you can create that feeling, even without formal authority, then you can manage.
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>>41153597

To me I found it an interesting book, covering concepts from many different perspectives ranging from Zen to Jung.
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>>41154591
feelings dont care about facts if you are intellectually inferior.

ftfy
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>>41155307
alright. seems pretty basic honestly. maybe harder if one doesnt have much empathy. picrel type education
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>>41153597
robert wilson is a fraudster, you lost your time with the book
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>>41154591
>he likes the anal circuit
ofc you do
you're a fag
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>>41153597
Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe
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>>41153597
cosmic trigger

>>41156265
no
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>>41156265
agreed but cant fix stupid, ppl will believe all nonsense
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>>41153597
You'll never look at hypnosis the same way again.
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>>41156265
What would you recommend instead?
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>>41156217
That's hardline 3rd circuit thinking. It helps a lot on granular, directed tasks, but it has a very firm ceiling. When we're working on a problem, feelings definitely need to take a backseat so we can get stuff done, but then at some point the problem is resolved. You have to turn off the battle and resume normal interactions.

I've been on bioth sides if the equation. I was the know it all analyst that thought they should be the CEO (because I was good at my job, that did not involve running a company). And now I manage the know it all analysts. I have the job of making sure the know it all keeps producing quality work without bringing down the mood of the team. So I can't blunt their pride or confidence but I have to contain them and dissipate their attitudes. It's way more of a balancing act than I appreciated until I was doing it.

I think I lucked out and most of my bosses had strong 4th circuit impulses (or can fake it like me). I had good examples to follow.

>>41156220
It might be basic on paper.
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>>41154127
I feel like it's not really capable of being disinfo in the normal way, it tells you exactly what it's doing and gives you all the cognitive tools to be able to say yes, no or ahshgsdhudsgbhsgdhusdf to that something. Teaching you to be able to deconstruct and reconstruct your frames of reference for reality at will is not inherently anything and certainly not inherently pro-establishment. Except maybe in the context of the late 60s when it came out and the establishment was worried mostly about Marxism and black radicalism which are much more dogmatic, "objective"/"scientific" frames of reference. But are you either of those things? Most people into this sus counterculture narrative aren't, they're ortholarpers or some other flavor of internet conservative whose real problem with the counterculture isn't that it glowed but that it produced all these egalitarian cultural changes and because they have religious commitments which require the demonization of anything "occult". If these Jay Dyer/LogosMedia guys had such a problem with glowies and ops then they'd be willing to denounce ROCOR, which was a direct arm of the CIA (with JFK connections just like Discordianism btw). Instead a lot of them are literally ROCOR members.
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all these books are shit. read arthur clark
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>>41153597
The books written by this man were pivotal in exposing Epstein's abuse.
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>>41156420
This
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Any good resources? libgen is down.
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>>41153597
alice bailey and Yogi Ramacharaka, swami vivkenanda
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>>41161044
>libgen
there multiple proxy
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>>41161044
Anna's archive my brother
Thank me later
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>>41153597
There is a book that is said to be impossible to find, for one reason or another, that I've been looking for a complete copy for YEARS called "Cosmic Manuscript" by Dallas Thompson.

Apparently there is a shit ton of mystery surrounding the book and author.

You can't even fine a good PDF version of the book from what I've seen, but it's said to be a treasure trove of esoteric information.
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>>41154591
>>41157499
Very interesting anecdote anon. Thanks for the writeup. Did you do the exercises in the book? They seem very outdated. Or is it simply an intellectual exercise. Interested to learn how exactly you turned it into something practical in the workplace setting
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>>41161359
Best place ever for those who love reading.
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I liked it.

As another anon put it, it's good at encouraging you to think and to overcome previous conditioning. It encourages you to be the programmer and not the program. Only an NPC would get programmed by it.
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>>41161431
I did some of the exercises. Mostly the ones I could do right then and there. The rest I would just try to imagine what the expected outcome was according to RAW. Having a frame of reference for how to reflect on my thoughts, words, and deeds catalyzed the change. One thing I do is dwell incessantly on everything I've ever said or done so I had plenty of material to work with.

As for how did I get from 0 to 1? I started catching myself in the moment. How did I do that now and not before? Not really sure. It's the closest thing to a RNG outcome in real life. Probably a combination of thinking about it a lot, reflecting on what I should have done, and wanting to do things better.
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>>41154127
>RAW and his friends are trolls
That's the whole appeal of the books. Nobody dumb enough to think this shit is serious would be reading it anyway.
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>>41156797
why secret, tho?
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>>41156220
it’s just vibes anon, exercises are like “Smoke weed and recognize your instincts in animals” “Think about what led you to this moment” “Get stoned and go for a nice swim at a spa” etc
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>>41161427
yeah cant find anything on it. interesting, thanks
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>>41161660
>It's the closest thing to a RNG outcome in real life
What do you mean by this?
As for the rest, thanks. My intuition was correct i figured it was something like that. You've convinced me to reread it
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>>41161845
As far as I can tell, it doesn't exist online. So the only options available would be to get lucky enough to find a physical copy, which is exceptionally rare.

What's even stranger about this book is that a digital version was made available, if I remember correctly. But even when you visit webarchive, there's no remains of it and all files claiming to actually be it are very strange fake files or worse.

If you seek it out on archive it almost looks as if someone intentionally flooded the space with a shit ton of fake bullshit to make it even more difficult.
I've never seen anything like it when seeking out books online, which is why this one stood out to me and has remained in the back of my mind for so long.
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>>41162183
Can't even find the ISBN.
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I remember one exercise in this book, where you basically decide to change your inner motivations and beliefs through roleplay, was shocked at how well it worked.
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>>41153597
There's an interesting page about hypnosis from a what I can't identify.
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>>41153597
Lame Nazi bullshit
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>>41163758

In which way?
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>>41163955
In the way leftists call everything fascism.
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>>41163639
I believe this is the "belief change pattern" used in NLP.
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>>41161814
Because intelligence agencies don't want you to know how they use hypnosis to manage assets.
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>>41161825
and who are you to judge my way to enlightenment, anon?
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>>41154127
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.
>gas the bike, race car now version:
>Henry Ford's The International Jew
>comic retard version:
>Will Eisner's The Plot
Until you understand that money runs the world, and that all money is invented, created, and owned by Rothschild, you will understand nothing, and be a happily distracted retard.
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>>41164907
Roast in piss, Jake.
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Book of Clouds by alawiteanon changed my life, especially the grand ritual
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>>41165024
His great-grandpappy Mayer was a triple-nigger, and Hitler did everything wrong by not gassing that entire block in Frankfurt before using it as Flak-88 target practice.
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>>41162183
it's just about obes bro nothing major
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>>41162183
Is there a pdf for this?
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>>41168095
>Is there a pdf for this?
>As far as I can tell, it doesn't exist online.
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>Is there a pdf for this?
Are you retarded?
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>>41165049
Elaborate. How did it change?
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>>41165049
If you have the latest version, post it.
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>>41153597
This is a good start. Quantum Psychology should be read afterwards.
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