>>41157111
Based and checked. Complete death to retard flat Earthers who shit up this board!!!!

Flat Earth = smooth brain

>>41157141
Last poo was the first log I've had this year

>>41157111
>Flat Earth, Firnament and that Space is water
where does this stupid shit even come from? only americans seem to believe in this garbage. even people from turbo-christcuck countries like Spain, Portugal, Italy, Poland don't believe in this shit.

>>41157184
they aren't even Christians. its very obvious when you spend time interacting with them. There are also as many who claim to be Bible believers as there are atheists who are into flat earth because it makes them feel special.

Im almost 100% sure that flat earthers pretending to be Christians are simply posting as part of a ploy to make Christians, and by extension right wingers on the board in general, look stupid.

>>41157184
>Im almost 100% sure that flat earthers pretending to be Christians are simply posting as part of a ploy to make Christians, and by extension right wingers on the board in general, look stupid.
Right wingers on this board are stupid. Even if I don't believe right wingers in general are stupid there's no denying that the stupidest of them end up on /pol/ and then the stupidest of /pol/ ends up here on /x/. This board is hands down the single greatest exploration of the failings of right-wingers on the internet today, that's specifically why it's so fucking funny.

>>41157240
lets keep it focused on the lying flat earthers anon. you can head to /pol/ if you want to bitch about right wingers in general.

>>41157111

I mean you could stay the same about believing we live on a sticky, wet ball spinning 1,000 mph around a nuclear reactor while having a giant rock dance around it.

Honestly, maybe GE is true, but not here, not in this dreammatrix. It is flat here fir whatever reason. Maybe too many resources to render or this is a fake and ghey matrix.

>>41157335
>wet ball spinning 1,000 mph
it rotates once in almost 24 hours buddy. thats hardly spinning and certainly not in the way flat earthers mean it (flinging everything off etc).

>>41157111
Earth is virtually flat (toroidal), waters above waters below. Now laugh at me you retarded niggers.

>>41157355
I just feel bad for you, you believe in jewish desert schizophrenic stories.

Maybe I could respect your opinion if you actually have researched it objectively
>>41157352
So what speed does it actually rotate at ?

>>41157367
You just feel because you can't think outside your retarded upbringing

>>41157382
Ironic.

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>>41157378
I'm sure you've done your research. Jew tranny.

>>41157405
>>41157412
Nutsucker feds with a folder of anti truth images. Stay proud niggers

>>41157378
>So what speed does it actually rotate at ?
15 degrees and 2½ arcminutes per hour.

>>41157442
>anti truth
Can't get more anti-truth than Jewish book that holds majority of this world hostage and obedient. Remember, repent goyim or burn in hell.

>>41157451
The whole point of da jew book is to bring order to places where there is chaos. Once you get to a certain level of understanding, you realize that truth is order. All of you globetards have a disorder.

>>41157470
Bring forth a flat earth model than can predict the suns azimuth and altitude angle at any give point in the world and at any give time.

>>41157482
I'll do you one better. I said virtually flat but it's correctly concave and cellular.
https://m.youtube.com/@TRUEMODELOFTHEWORLD

Macrocosm microcosm. The world is a cell in the body of God.

>>41157494
>The world is a cell in the body of God.
The same one that got assfucked by Iron Chariots and got bodied by Chemosh? The same one that behaved worse than my BPD ex on a period?

>>41157505
I don't know your scripture but lol sure

>>41157514
>your scripture
What I said is literally in the Old Testament. Didn't expect a christcuck to know it though.

>>41157524
I'm not religious. Pagan more like

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>>41157111
>Daily globe-head cope.

fuck globetards

>>41157378
you have to look at the rotational velocity in the proper units anon. flat earthers consistently avoid doing this as a way to lie with numbers. the answer you're looking for is mentioned many places in radian/hour. using that figure you can easily compare it to other rotating objects and quickly find out that the outward force generated by the earths rotation is incredibly low and does in no way compare to, referencing a common flat earth lying meme, a spinning tennis ball throwing water away from its self.

>>41157717
INCREDIBLY low! Lol, so low it's immeasurable

>>41157717

I always heard it as 1,000 mph by non FErs too though.

>>41157875

Apparently fast enough if Earth where to suddenly stop, everything on the surface would go flying, so not insignificant according to GE narrative.

>>41157901
>Apparently fast enough if Earth where to suddenly stop, everything on the surface would go flying, so not insignificant according to GE narrative.
Globe Earth is basically control via fear porn ain't it?

>>41157875
its measurable. just search for something like 'earth rotation weight' and educate yourself

>>41157901
>I always heard it as 1,000 mph by non FErs too though.
yes but that doesn't tell you anything about the outward force generated by the rotation because its not a unit of measurement which directly relates to rotational velocity.

>>41157968
>its measurable. just search for something like 'earth rotation weight' and educate yourself

Nigger it's immeasurable. I fail to find any proof that isn't speculation theories. Got any videos detailing a method for the layman to prove it themselves? You don't, because it's immeasurable, and exists only in the theories of mad men.

>>41158045
>Got any videos detailing a method for the layman to prove it themselves?
yes of course you demand videos when you can find 100 articles to actually read about it instead since naturally all information must be presented in an entertaining videos for a flerf to bother with it.

just look up Wolfie6020 on youtube for the subject if you want. he's done a couple different videos on this exact thing with flat earthers in mind.

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>>41157111
unlike Rock in space theory that somehow appears after nothing explodes that is absolute fact because some lights in space appear red and a special force holds the universe together for billions of years and rocks orbit other rocks and gasses in a predictable manner, riight?

>>41158162
man, i wonder if you could make a more retarded and/or deceptive pic if you really tried.

>>41158148
Thanks, I'll look him up later after work. If he doesn't provide a method that is reproducible, that I can set out to prove or disprove myself, you are forever a brain dead faggot from my perspective.

>>41158174
he basically just took a decent quality scale and known mass weights to different places (he's a pilot) and the measurements matched up with the standard numbers related to the rotation of the earth. theres a lot out there about this effect.

>>41158198
That's the exact method I expected. No that doesn't work. But I'll see later for sure.
Btw gravity is just buoyancy.

>yo bro you know the earths flat and space is gay?
>"ommmmg nooo R u a Idiot!!?"

I usually just use this question as a test to see who will get triggered and rage out (and be no fun discussing ideas with ) whatever the belief is. Its also a good way to filter out who will actually question other topics as well

>>41158291
Good thread it was fun. I was the guy calling everyone nigger.

>>41158247
why doesnt it work. thats exactly what a body the size of the earth would produce given the rotational velocity.

>>41158291
and you'd get less of the frustrated replies if flat earth faggots hadn't been spamming their idiotic bullshit across 4chan for years on end. you cant pretend to be offended and shocked after so much shilling of this retarded subject on boards where it has no place being posted

>>41158539
If you have a known weight, it should remain the same anywhere with the same buoyant force applied to it. I'm not counting out different elevations being an effect on the buoyant force. The higher you go, the less material above you to push down. My mind has replaced gravity with buoyancy and bioelectromagnetism. But I still have to watch your linked YouTube channel later.

>>41158603
the entire concept of buoyancy only makes sense within a gravity field. weight only makes sense with a gravity field. gravity is part of the equation that calculates buoyancy and in free fall/zero G things dont behave that way anymore.
Anyway, the fact that things are measured to weigh differently in different places on the earth, and that the variations conform to predictions made by the standard factors should be enough for you.

>>41157352
Once every 24 hrs for something as large as the entire earth is insanely fast especially when you are on the outside of it.

I think nasa says we got zoom at 666mph or something stupid like that

And inb4 people incorrectly compare this to linear motion, even at a constant speed rotations cause forces.

>>41158648
Can you have attraction without gravity? Yes.

>>41158749
Its called buoyancy…

‘They’ took the opposite and equal force to buoyancy, gave it another name, and then gave all sorts of bullshit lore about how this opposite force is created.

Buoyancy is the real force and it’s just part of how God made this place.

>>41157111
The retardation isn't intellectual.
It's because they have shitty values.
They don't learn because they don't care.
In fact it's the opposite of not caring. They are violently incurious. Any possibility of learning is a personal attack to them.

>>41158747
>is insanely fast especially when you are on the outside of it.
and yet it doesn't produce enough outward force to throw water or people or anything away from itself, which is the entire point.

>>41158749
sure. go ahead and show that the earth attracts everything to it via whatever other force you believe to be in action.

>>41158771
Your post makes zero sense because most flat earthers learned all the same bullshit you did

We just started questioning the things we were taught from birth and decided it sounds like a bunch of bullshit and we prefer flat earth and find it much more convincing.

Seethe more and keep consuming what ‘they’ tell u is the truth goy

>>41158785
>we prefer flat earth
im sure you do, since it makes you feel special and a knower of secret things
> and find it much more convincing.
lol. lmao even.

>>41158784
I’m on your side anon.

In fact, the human experience is a flat unmoving earth every single day of our lives. :)

Everything makes way more sense when you understand flat earth.

My life was actually full of all sorts of cognitive dissonance and confusion when I believed the outer space stuff. Everything makes so much sense now and feels cozy.

>>41158802
Not my problem you incorrectly assume to know why i believe in flat earth.

I actually have a background in mathematics and value the truth above all else, which is what eventually led me to Jesus and flat earth.

>>41158764

I think gravity is probably related to magnetism.

>>41158803
>My life was actually full of all sorts of cognitive dissonance and confusion when I believed the outer space stuff.
im sure that not understanding things caused you some discomfort but that doesn't mean all those things are fake.

>>41158809
stop trying to associate Jesus with your flat earth nonsense. i know you flerf shills like to do that all the time, and its a big part of what you're here to do, but you should be warned that doing so is lying and will have you judged.

>>41158816
so magnets work on everything equally? amazing.

>>41158824
The Bible is a flat earth book period and always has been so it is impossible to separate Jesus and flat earth because they are both true and in the bible.

The bible mentions how satan will deceive the nations…

>>41158845
same old flat earth shill talking points. the Bible is not a flat earth book and the deception is what you guys lie about all the time

https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/earth/does-bible-teach-earth-flat/

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>>41157335
At least globe-earth shit can be proven at-home using simple experiments that people figured out before we invented the wheel or cheese

Every single flat earth experiment produces results that cannot be replicated all over the planet because they're not actual scientific experiments meant to empirically prove anything - they're pseudo-experiments meant to paint a narrative that they're correct and there's a grand conspiracy to hide flat Earth.

Also there's no logical reason to hide the flat earth - it doesn't actually prove the existence of whatever God of your choice anymore than floods or rainbows do. And even then, it was actually EASIER to control humanity back when most people thought the Earth was actually flat and only a few thousand years old.

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>>41157111
The Earth is "flat" in that it's a holographic 3d globe projection from a flat template in the Akasha (firmament waters). Listening to most flat Earthers, it reads like they read Blavatsky and interpreted what she wrote in literal material way.

>>41158824
I used to ‘understand the science’ just fine anon until i decided to question it and see if it really was the truth or just a bunch of bullshit i believe only because it was taught to me over and over.

And once I started using that big brain to question my preconceived notions I had the humility to admit I had been duped.

Every big philosopher will tell you that the beginning of true knowledge is when you doubt everything you take for granted.

>>41158864
Tldr cope and seethe before the wheel everyone KNEW earth was flat. Rofl.

Aint zero people ‘before the wheel’ believing we live on a big spinny ball ‘in space’ roflll

>>41158784
The attraction is love anon

>>41158871
yes, im sure you have fully refuted all the science you understand.

>>41158880
makes one man weep and another man sing, thats the power of love.

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>>41158876

You are, in fact, coping and seething. You are falling for a narrative that was developed within the last few thousand years to control humanity. Instead a freely-rotating geoid that anyone can travel in any direction on - you believe in a flat panopticon where you are constantly surveilled by an omnipotent father/mother figure whose nebulous and often draconian, contradictory, and nonsensical laws you must follow lest you are punished for eternity or annihilated.

Your ancient ancestors KNEW the earth was round, they could see it with their own eyes in the ways the shadows bend at certain times of day. You have more in common with a beast of burden blindly obeying its shepherd than you do with your ancestors. That's not even mentioning your primordial ancestors before the calamity that destroyed our golden age. Compared to them you are a dog.

Take care, though. I also think it's really sad that you are incapable of reading a paragraph that I intentionally wrote at a 10th grade level lmao but I guess "ignorance is bliss" is your modus operandi

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>>41158979
Tldr bruh

I love Jesus
Love flat earth

Go ahead and keep believing what u been taught since birth by the authority figures and I will keep expressing my freedom of thought :)

>>41158979
Round in which way? Concave earth is da way. Light bends upward n shit. The moon is a reflection n shit. Earth is a cell in the body of God n shit. Spinning ball in void space is big dumb. Most people are big dumb, to not question everything taught and learned. Question everything until you're back to square one, home. Nothing makes sense here because nobody knows the whole picture. Theories are built on top of theories, and the magic of intention leads to their individual "proofs". Whatever fits the narrative of "you have nowhere to go" is what is pushed. It's an infinite toroidal plane, that's the best I got so far.

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>>41157111
>believe
Not a belief, I know earth is flat
You "believe" in space? No wonder you have a belief, it violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics

>>41158922
Indeed and now I am able to better separate real science from dogma based on things that can neither be tested nor reproduced.

Physics and biology and chemistry obviously still exist. You can understand the playground that ‘science’ is allowed to exist within is fundamentally incorrect, but that doesn't mean it’s all 100% incorrect all the time.

For example… God made plants and animals and organisms with the ability to adapt. Adaptation of biology is real. It actually happens very very quickly.

Evolution is a flawed theory and is just wrong. It doesnt take millions of years and one animal isnt going to transform into something completely different. But animals/plants can and do adapt to their surroundings.

Another falsity of biology is they want people to think biology is just like a computer executing script from your DNA. But we can actually change our genetics and change what our offspring will be like based on our environment and the kind of life we lead.

‘Evolution’ is fundamentally false because it doesnt take millions of years and monkeys do not turn into humans.

But yes…. Biology can adapt because God made it that way. It happens really fast though!

Whenever they lie about these big important things they go super extreme with the lie. Hitler knew about this trick and talked about the ‘Big Lie’


They also want people to feel disconnected and not important thats why they lie that everything is super far away and super far in the past

>>41157111
People laugh, but the Flat Earthers know something

>>41159288
im a creationist and am fine with the fact that God made the earth as a sphere. its quite beautiful actually, how the whole thing works. unlike flat earth, which does not and cannot work according to any know set of physical laws.

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>>41159280
>>41159309
t.

>>41159312
Well you are allowed to believe whatever you want.

To me outer space was never compatible with Christianity because it makes no sense to make ‘other worlds’ because Jesus came and lived and died here. I believe this is God’s creation and theres not billions of others just like it out there we need a space ship (lol) to visit.


The bible is a flat earth book. If you read Genesis 1 correctly you will see that the earth existed before the sun. Heck, plants existed before the sun.

The earth is stablished and shall not move. It also has foundations.

In my opinion it is extremely obvious the entire ‘scientific’ paradigm is meant to directly contradict the bible.

>>41159315
genetic fallacy.

"If jews believe in flat earth, then flat earth is false, because I dont trust jews"

this is you. and it doesnt even apply properly since most jews dont believe in flat earth.

stupid fucking moron, kys already, and I'm not even a flat earther

>>41157378
0.00069444444 rpm

this is the best theory I've seen about the formation of the solar system
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF-IJ_hY_x0

>>41159350
>Well you are allowed to believe whatever you want.
and you are free to be entirely wrong about everything. glad we got these obvious truths out of the way.
>‘other worlds’ because Jesus came and lived and died here
that makes no sense at all. We know God made other planets, thats all. whats wrong with that? perhaps He did so to show us how special Earth is. And, even if there are other worlds with other being on them, that doesn't matter either, because perhaps Earth was the only place to fall in Sin. C.S Lewis' idea of a 'quarantined' earth might have some merit to it, who knows?
None of this changes anything about the efficacy of Christs life and death and resurrection for sinners.
>. If you read Genesis 1 correctly you will see that the earth existed before the sun. Heck, plants existed before the sun.
so? i believe God created it all. the order has nothing to say about flat earth or not.
>extremely obvious the entire ‘scientific’ paradigm is meant to directly contradict the bible.
how then is it the case that for a long time Christians led the way in scientific study and discovery because they assumed that God created the universe in a way which we can comprehend and use to our benefit? They assumed logical order from the outset and this allowed them to figure stuff out.
But, i dont deny that those who reject God as creator certainly dont like to delve into areas and possibilities which lead them to see that a creator is necessary.
But the shape of the earth is irreverent to this since, and please note it, atheists could perfectly reasonably accept a flat earth under a dome by attributing its design and manufacture to a vastly superior race of aliens. Such mega-engineering feats are common in scifi books.

>>41159543
0.000696346502 rpm

>>41159990
thats a heck of a long play LP

>>41159990
Okay but considering the size of earth what is the speed at the outside??

As we all know, even constant rotations cause accelerations.

>>41159932
Well you clearly already assume you are correct about everything by your first statement so talking to you is pointless TLDR

>>41160396
nice cop out but if it makes you feel better to think that you dont also profess to be quite certain about stuff then go right ahead. you've made numerous quite overtly definite assertions and claims itt so far.

>>41160420
Anyone who pretends the bible supports ball earth and big bang etc clearly do not read their bible in the same way I do so there are fundamental differences in thought that are not compatible.

I believe Genesis 1 is true as written for example . I dont think its an allegory.

If you believe what the world tells us about this place then you believe all sorts of things that disagree with Genesis 1. So we cannot really even have much of a conversation on the matter because you fundamentally believe different things about the bible than I do.

>>41157111
I admire the people who are openminded enough to believe in stuff like that but there is a line tho, between facts and just sheer stupidity and delusion

>>41160489
Dumb comment in my opinion believing ball erf cuz u were shown a bunch of cartoons and told to believe by freemasons is retarded

>>41160440
it has to be allegory or the bible (or at very least genesis) is made up nonsense that clearly contradicts with reality

>>41160513
Thats your opinion and its a really bad one considering every human being experiences a flat unmoving world every day of their life. None of us ‘go to outer space’ and see the ball and visit other planets. Only in your mind, maybe.

>>41160529
we don't feel it move because of inertia
same reason why Airplanes only feel like they are moving during take off and landing

>>41160552
Its okay anon thats an easy mistake a lot of people make. You see, linear motion is not the same as rotations. Even when you are rotating at a constant speed you will feel the motion. Hope that helps you understand why that analogy doesnt work and is really bad. But dont feel bad even nasa and school use the same bad analogy.

Rotations absolutely 100% can be felt even when they are at a constant rate.

>>41160440
>I believe Genesis 1 is true as written for example . I dont think its an allegory.
same here. but it also doesn't specify that the earth is flat. if you're really a believer i can really recommend taking a look at this article and others from the same author. He spent years learning about what flat earthers believe and going through looking at how it measures up.

https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/earth/does-bible-teach-earth-flat/

>>41160440
>If you believe what the world tells us about this place then you believe all sorts of things that disagree with Genesis 1.
No, you see there you are not thinking clearly. Just because i believe the earth is a globe and that God made it that way doesn't in any way necessitate that i accept the whole worldview offered by unbelievers. That makes no sense whatsoever. ive already said in a creationist, for example.

thats kind of either/or thinking is not sensible

>>41160571
>Rotations absolutely 100% can be felt even when they are at a constant rate.
depending on how large the axis of rotation is and at what rate it turns. something small rotating at a high rate will naturally exert more angular acceleration upon you, to the point that it is detectable by your senses. there are limits to what our senses can detect however.

>>41159250

God has no body probably, we are its dream.

>>41160632
Okay and if you use the size nasa tells us how fast is the earth rotating at it’s surface? Isnt it like 666mph?? Lol

>>41160697

1000ish mph

>>41160386
To get the surface speed you multiple the earth's circumference in your preferred units of measure with the cosine of your latitude and then you divide that by the time it takes for the earth to make one revolution around its axis in your preferred measure of time.
Cosine tends to zero the closer you get to 90 degrees so the surface speed is the greatest near the equator which is why you weigh less and less the closer you get to it and this is measurable.

>>41160611

Being a creationist but believing in space balls and the big bang and a heliocentric ‘solar system’ means you already disagree with Genesis 1 and think thats just a cute story they put in there as an allegory for this outer space ball stuff.

In the bible the sun stops its movement and starts going backwards through the sky. Not sure how you think thats happening in ball erf.

Also the windows on high were opened (and the doors in the deep) during Noahs flood. I guess you assume thats an allegory.

As well as the heavens unrolling like a scroll in the end times which is clearly when the firmament will open up. I assume you think this is again some sort of allegory for something outerspacey happening.

Every eye shall see Him come in on the clouds of heaven and he aint gonna have to fly around like santa clause on christmas to accomplish that either lol.


Wow congrats you beleive in creationism like most 501c3 christians.

That does NOT mean you have a biblical world view esp on the cosmological scale.

I cannot blame you though because even most 501c3 pastors are completely duped and even push ball earth lies constantly.

Genesis 1 says the moon gives its own light but 501c3 christians spread the lie that it is reflected sun light.

You are being really rude to me though for no reason. I take a more literal interpretation of the bible than you do our differences are not because ‘im not thinking clearly’

>>41160734
‘Weighing less at the equator’ in no way proves earth is spinning. Thats a bunch of bullshit. The equator is obviously a really important location on earth and any number of unknown properties about it or the way gravity works in general could be the cause for that phenomenon.

Just because a theory could possibly give an explanation for a phenomenon does not immediately prove that it is the cause.

>>41159241
>Blindly following dogma propped up by wealthy pedophiles from ancient bloodlines

>"Freedom"

Lmao I'm so sorry your spiritual and intellectual toolkit consists of fisher price toys

>>41159225
Not even gonna waste anymore time with you than this reply if you need a souped-up autocorrect to think for you

>>41159250
Eh I keep an open mind about this wouldn't surprise me if it is a toroidal shape or hollow object or other shape that is conventionally understood to be impossible. It's definitely not flat though.

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>>41160489
I couldn't disagree with you more about admiring it - I think it's much easier and safer to believe ignorant comforting lies that validate whatever worldview was instilled by you by your upbringing, than it is to confront and integrate evidence that challenges your worldview.

>>41160500
This anon understands. Blessed.

>>41160697
thats not the right way to look at it anon. if you're wanting to figure out how much outward force is being generated you need to think in radians/hr, because that exactly describes the rotational velocity

>>41160738
>means you already disagree with Genesis 1
ive just said i believe God created everything anon. i dont think you're paying attention, and could even be a bot at this point.

>>41160773
and yet the difference is exactly predicted by the globe model. its the best fit model right now. feel free to publish another one.

>>41160773
We also have Foucault's pendulum.
Set a long pendulum swinging and it will precess clockwise in the northern hemisphere, counter clockwise in the southern and not at all at the equator.

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>>41157111
Better image

>>41157240
Right wingers in general are stupid though

I don't believe flat earthers are real. You can prove the earth is a sphere by looking at the horizon or the moon.

>>41159990
eh, 1440 min

>>41160967
The moon is a disc and the horizon is perfectly flat, what is your point?

>>41160571
>Even when you are rotating at a constant speed you will feel the motion
you feel it constantly, so it is background noise for all intents and purposes
this is like being able to tell how much energy the senses use up by virtue of you constantly sensing and thinking
exceedingly few ever get quiet enough to notice the distinction
you thinking you should feel something more than you do it just your feeble brain sputtering and shaking for lack of processing ability

>>41160852
Okay so what? How do you know that electromagnetism isn’t involved? What experiment exists to prove that it is ‘erf moving’ that causes it?

All you have is a really interesting phenomenon and haven’t proven why it does what it does.

It reminds me of how there is a reflective part of the moon and NASA claims it’s that way cuz they left a mirror up there LOLZ

>>41161074
>The moon is a disc and the horizon is perfectly flat
KEK

You are the type of a person that would claim it's rain when someone spat on you from the higher ground.

>>41160967
The cause of flat earth is low spatial intelligence. Watch any flat earth videos and they demonstrate that they are incapable of comprehending 3D space, some can't even comprehend 2D space. They're the people who can't visualize apples in their heads.

Reminder that flat earth was made up by retarded American evangelicals in the 19th century and has no basis in actual historical Christian thought

>>41160738
>In the bible the sun stops its movement and starts going backwards through the sky. Not sure how you think thats happening in ball erf.
dummy, that's describing an extremely severe magnetic excursion
there are stories all over the earth of the sun stopping or a very long night
you are too physics retarded to link these phenomena

>>41161089
Well id like to see your personal images of ‘the other side’ of the moon and of a curved horizon

>>41161104
Then why was Galileo allegedly tried as a heretic for his blasphemous heliocentrism? Rofll u make no sense

>>41161074
>t-that's not curvature
lmao, lol even
>>41161089
nailed it

>>41161106
All u can do is throw insults. Sad

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>>41160571
https://youtu.be/AAbMWliuijI?t=653
>with his eyes closed he has no sensation of acceleration under the rate of 2 degrees per second per second
It's a very kino video btw, you should watch it.

>>41161125
>I'll focus on the insult and forget about the real physical phenomenon mentioned
>if I do this, me being btfo didnt happen

>>41161117
wut? do you think the geocentrists were flat earthers?

>>41161117
The church believed the earth was round, they just also thought it was at the centre of the solar system which Galileo showed wasn't true (he also did the 17th century equivalent of drawing the Pope as the basedjak and himself as the chad which didn't help)

>>41161158
Nah I disagree I dont think people thought it was round. The ball stuff is very much intertwined with the outer space heliocentrism.

Biblical jews were not thinking they lived on a ball.

No way Jesus was walking around with a bunch of ball believers.

>>41161155
Absolutely. They didnt think erf was a space ball you could go upside down on if u went far enough away.

They knew earth was flat and unmoving and had foundations etc. they knew what the firmament was.

>>41161172
>Nah I disagree
Well okay, you can disagree, you're still wrong though

>>41161176
>They knew earth was flat and unmoving and had foundations etc. they knew what the firmament was.
Again, this only dates back to the 19th century, geocentrism made perfect sense from the observable evidence at the time but flat earth did not, it was obvious that the world was round even from ancient times

>>41161074
If the moon were a disk it would look different to everyone on earth you fucking idiot
The horizon is clearly curved. I look right at it and see its curved

>>41157111
>>41157141
>>41157143
Faggots.
Sit on a beach with a zoom camera or smartphone.
Look at the sea or ocean .

1) you can see waaaaaaaaay too far for it to be on a ball or a curve.

2) you see bottoms of ships when you zoom
>which is impossible on a ball.

You smooth brains are very funny.

>>41160967
>I don't believe flat earthers are real. You can prove the earth is a sphere by looking at the horizon or the moon.
Moon is not even a planet , faggot.
Try it:
>>41161324

>>41161101
ONe more faggot:
go disprove my post here :
>>41161324

>>41161101
Since you are a faggot that claims you can visualize stuff.
Run a 3 body model - so called Sun, Earth and Polaris, North Star.

Run it in your head or build a computer simulator.
You cannot solve a 3 body problem.
You have earth rotating around sun , having seasons (i.e. tilts),
YET , North star polaris DOESN'T move for 200 years.

You faggots are clueless.

>>41157335
>tripfag repeats glowie rhetoric
Nothing new under the sun.

>>41161367
You have no idea what a three body problem is if you intend to include the north fucking star in it. Talk about being a useful idiot, you've entirely proved his point.

>>41161367
hahahaha, brainlet

>>41160738
This guy can't visualize an apple.

Both the things that are written are true and the Earth is a ball, small minded dope. His perspective is greater than ours could ever be.

>>41161101
I'm picturing the earth right now and it's flat. Rebuttal?

>>41161726
Well, name calling isnt a good argument and neither is saying ‘his perspective is greater’ I’m not sure how you think that premise in any way shape or form gives evidence for earth being a ball.

>>41161449
His argument might be a little off with the detail of polaris with respect to its place within the (wrong) paradigm given by NASA, but the spirit of his argument still stands that the three body problem under supposed forces of ‘gravity’ gives rise to a chaotic system.

>>41161224
If you take an image in the shape of a disk and tape it to your ceiling does everyone in the room see something different?

>>41161189
Appealing to the ancients is a wild argument because we know that most cultures have flat earth origin stories like the world being carried on a turtles back or similar

Thats just very untrue to pretend that tons of people in the distant past thought they lived on a ball with the sun flying around the ball.

U can believe that if you want but I dont.

>>41157111
My shits tell me that water lays flat. Look how many people voted for Trump does this shit surprise u? Education isnt popular because they need retard drones who can tell us billionaires will piss money on us when they want while they build their bunkers and fly to mars and the moon with their electrostatic and electrogravitic devices.

>>41158816
It is. There is no gravity without magnetism.

>>41162178
>chaos is impossible
?

>>41162283
Whats the point of ‘quoting’ people if ur just going to put words in someone else’s mouth and not actually quote them?

>>41157111
I've always felt like there was more to the Earth than what we were told and the more I see this subject attacked so violently I feel like the Earth is flat. But my subjective opinion aside let me ask you something besides that of a speculative nature, from NASA's participation in the Cold War using it's space program as a means of intimidating Russia do you think that NASA is an educational organization with the best interest or a special interest group? Does the government fund them for the purpose of advancing science and knowledge for the greater good or benefitting their political power? Perhaps this is reductive but if NASA could be classified as a special interest group why would anything they do be in the benefit of the public and not big wigs with gold cigars?

>>41162169
The fact that you think His word has to make perfect sense to you, that you must be able to visualize how His plan will come to fruition, is arrogant. The Earth is observably a ball and that in no way disproves God.

>>41162488
>benefitting their political power
Probably not this, given how often their funding is cut and how little it is to begin with.

>>41162563
K but youre the one who believes what the world teaches rather than what the bible actually says and youre actually the one who Is so arrogant in your belief you believe in it over what the Bible says.

Nobody observes earth being a ball you have not flown up high enough to see earth as an alleged ball. You just ascribe normal everyday phenomena with happening ‘because earth is a ball’ erroneously.

Thinking that the day night cycle comes from earth spinning around is not a direct observation you have its just something you assume to be true when in fact the way optics works there is nothing impossible about a local sun setting behind the horizon. Especially not when you take the optical effects of the firmament into consideration.

You are the one who is so arrogant you wont even consider that what you were brought up with by the world could actually be wrong.

I used to believe all that stuff like everyone else I just decided to question it one day and because unlike you I didnt come at it from an angle of impossibility….

Your stance is actually really hypocritical because I could say the exact same thing to you that just because you cannot personally visualize or understand flat earth doesnt mean it would he impossible for God to make a flat earth …

So how good of an argument can that be if you can use the same argument against yourself?

>>41157111
Well, what about the upcoming October 2nd event?

Read this post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/comments/1m0px7o/attention_at_least_one_rapture_has_already/

Alt URL (redirects to the post):

https://www.truth-now.org

>>41162605
>erroneously
Not so, but I'll spare myself the discussion about the science any further. I simply want to discuss the religious angle. I apologize for being mean, however.

>>41162576
You might be right, but if NASA contends with government interests then why did they participate in the Cold War? Did they contend in the space race for the purpose of science and exploration or for the purposes of assisting the US to assert it's dominance as a global superpower?

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>>41162665
Did u know why isreal’s flag is white with two blue stripes?

Because one of the blue stripes represents the waters below and the second blue stripe represents the waters above.

>>41161449
>You have no idea what a three body problem is if you intend to include the north fucking star in it. Talk about being a useful idiot, you've entirely proved his point.
I CAN CALL the problem how I WANT TO CALL it.
Not how you fakers "decided" it should be called.
So. I am calling it Sun-Earth-NorthStar 3 body problem.
And if you have more than 2 bit brain, you will realize, that there CANNOT Be any solution
if you assume all 3 are planets and magically fly in space.
Because if Earth flies in some magic space, rotates around the sun, and HAS SEASONS (i.e. axis tilts) , Then ,
THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL that North Star is some magic star million miles away that ALWAYS Stays in place for 200 years.

You faggots claim something and then fail to prove it.

>>41162681
Funding. They were useful for special interests at the time. Look I know I'm hardly in the right thread for it, but I don't believe their are some government agencies (USGS, NPS, NASA) that care more about their real jobs than glowing. And this is allowed because it obfuscates the bad actors. If people have agencies worth trusting, they spend less time worrying about the government overall. That's how I see it.

>>41162796
>if you assume all 3 are planets
lol
lmao

>>41162890
I do* believe. Don't post on 4chan when you have other things to be doing kids.

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I personally took this fight and didn’t see no fucking gigantic hole.
I feel scammed.

>>41161086
>How do you know that electromagnetism isn’t involved?
You can construct the pendulum out of nonmagnetic materials

>>41161104
>look into literally any retarded theory pushed by tradcath larpers
>it's origin is 19th century America
happens literally every time, flat earth, the rapture, and so on.

>>41161172
The Greeks had already proved it was round before Jesus was even born

in fact you know how kings in old paintings and statues always have a ball with a cross on it? yeah that symbolizes the Earth (ball) and Christ's dominion over it.

or to put it simply: even illiterate barbarians knew it was round

>>41157111
imagine NOT believing in the most wondrous cosmological model possible that is also the most pervasive one by very very far across all eras and cultures
why do you do this to yourselves, fucktards?

>>41157240
the rightwing is made o fpeople who succeeded enough at reproducing that they are trying to keep the fruit of their labor instead of trying to steal other people's like failures to breed leftists do

>>41157367
>I just feel bad for you, you believe in jewish desert schizophrenic stories.
lol let's see anon
do you believe in
• the big bang
• black holes
• anthropogenic climate change
• vaccines
• democracy
• the holocaust
• the roman empire was 2000 years ago
• the wastes from the petroleum industry are medical treatments
geez we could go on

>>41163964
>pancake with a glass owl over it
>more wondrous than the current scientific universe
lol as if

>>41162381
But it's commonly accepted that three body systems are chaotic so it doesn't disprove or confound anything

>>41163995
>democracy
>the holocaust
All of the above but these two.

I used to not give a shit about flerfags until they got smug and all of a sudden want to be taken seriously. You should have just stayed in your little idiot corner, now I'm going to mock you until you die.

>>41161324
>1) you can see waaaaaaaaay too far for it to be on a ball or a curve.
no you cant
>2) you see bottoms of ships when you zoom
no you dont

>>41162178
>his argument still stands that the three body problem under supposed forces of ‘gravity’ gives rise to a chaotic system.
so> really, what do you think that even means? just because our math is able to predict such a system long term has zero bearing on if that system is real or not. its like saying that because we can't predict the weather perfectly for the next 3 weeks that clouds are fake and gay.

what a truly stupid point to make.

>>41161367
>>41162796
Go drive on the highway and look at mountains or trees far from the road and compare them to a barn or trees closer to the road. This will disprove your agument. If you need me to explain this further, you are admitting to having an IQ below 90, because anyone with an IQ higher than that would realize how this relates to and disproves your argument.

>>41162488
Obviously the government funds nasa for political reasons. They don't give a shit about the average person or advancing science or whatever, only themselves. Those reasons aren't to hide that the erath is flat though. It's because china and russia also have space programs and if the us completely ignores nasa, china and russia will beat them to colonizing the solar system and the us will be stuck on earth and be unable to compete with them. Nasa gets relativey little money now because china and russia aren't too interested in space either right now, but if they start really investing in space, the us will too.

>>41161367
>YET , North star polaris DOESN'T move for 200 years.
YET you seem completely ignorant about the scale of the system you're talking about. Go away, find out how far away Polaris is and how far the solar system moves in a year, then come back and tell me about how much movement there should appear to be of Polaris over 200 years.
>aahhh, all those numbers are fake and gay
misses the point completely. please educate yourself.

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>>41162605
Amen, my brother in Christ.

Truth does not fear investigation.

> Psalms 19:1:
> The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

Psalms 104:1, 104:5
> Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty.
> Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.

> Joshua 10:13:
> And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

> Revelation of John 16:13-14
> And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
> For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

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>>41163995
> earth is a globe
> you evolved from monkies and black peepoo
> you're an insignificant speck and inside a meaningless world/void
> no, you are not a Created spiritual being with a soul
> race is real
> gays are in fact dangerous to have around children
> the holocaust was war propaganda
> please let us educate your children on poopysex month and if you don't support the current thing you're xyz
> having fun can still sometimes be hard even if you have a library card

Christ protects me from this.

Let Christ in and free yourself from the influence of evil.

God Bless.

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to /x/ anons, space is fake and gay.

the fact that you were lied and fed this sci-fi and believed it was ever done, ever achievable was part of their plot to brainwash you via radio/tv/newspapers/movies/books. and it worked. the reason you're depressed and nihilistic is because they hide god from you and fed you this nihilistic worldview where you are the product of random chaotic chance for a billion of years and not the product of a creator and intelligent design. instead of being told the truth that you are born to an earth that is one-of-a-kind and the center of all that we survey you were brainwashed into believing there are one quadrillion planets and we are a grain of sand in an infinite universe of loneliness. its not true and more psyop. they want you to believe the "outer space" lie so they can sell you another 9/11 style inside job "alien invasion" lie next using 1940s nazi UFO tech and project bluebeam. people are waking up to the governments lies via their space agencies and there are compilations being made more and more every day showcasing NASAs greenscreens glitching out, their harnesses edited out but tugging at their clothes, underwater air bubbles.. they are siphoning trillions from us and lying to us about EVERYTHING! people are waking up. its not hopeless. the good will overcome the masonic evil that has overtaken earth.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCDvfKE3orQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJK1gLHbOxA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hnrlyOvUcQ

> Psalms 19:1:
> The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

>>41162381
>we havent fully hashed out the math for this particular problem yet, so this means space is fake and gay

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>>41159280
based /x/ anon. God Bless.

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Planatir is the biggest open conspiracy of our time, Peter Theil is essentially a man that wants to be the antichrist(he thinks he’s a Christ). No one post about this on this board, odd. Project Gotham, Project Foundary, a sudden 100x growth upon election of Donald Trumps second term, doj contracts going back to 2019, planatir software “glitches” allow fbi agents to access data “accidentally”, extra legally to identify targets, Predictive crime stopping, a full panopticon of surveillance, CEOs made army officers, army reserves sent into major cities with large grass roots political movements, “deportation” of citizens, people disappearing. It’s happening right now in front of us, the biggest conspiracy of the 21st century, the complete and total highjack of the us government by a few big tech companies running the largest surveillance system to ever exist, ai made to prosecute and track us, access to sensitive government data. It’s all happening directly infront of you and you are talking about an imagined rapture.
Planatir technology controls your life and government now, good luck.

>>41162796
>I CAN CALL the problem how I WANT TO CALL it.
typical refrain of brainlets
are you even aware of the sun's orientation in the galaxy?

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>>41163995
>the big bang
is perpetual

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NASA - Not A Space Agency

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>>41164720
excellent post anon.

>>41161324
having literally done this with binoculars and telescopes,
you cant see too far
you absolutely do not see the bottoms of ships as you zoom
you absolutely do watch them sink into the horizon from the bottom up as they go over the edge of the curve
why do retarded faggots just lie and make shit up

>>41164674
>muh vacoom of space
space is not a perfect vacuum you dimwitted fucktard
planets are clumps of matter
atmospheres are clumps of less dense matter surrounding them
islands of clumps of matter
the clump of gas surrounding the earth extends beyond the moon's orbit
just at a rather low density
things like this prove you're a retard

>>41164760
>space is not a perfect vacuum you dimwitted fucktard
another deeply retarded objection that flat earthers seem to love repeating and yet never bother to elaborate about because they can't. Imagine regurgitating so many embarrassingly stupid little statements gleaned from the Flerf Canon of dumb memes. sad.

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ITT:
Globeshills who think their bots will appear more real on 4chan when the text has "retard" at least 2 times in it.

>>41164846
lmao did this moron literally read what I wrote and call me a flerfer
retard hour here on /x/, you certainly didnt understand what I wrote, mouth breather

>>41164861
that nice coming from the flat earthers, who endlessly spam their folder of silly pics and ready made pasta.

>>41164874
whether you are a flerf or not, objecting that space isn't a perfect vacuum is peak retard. explain why you think your statement matters.

>>41164883
forest fires. why do flerfs post such deceptive pics all the time?

>>41164938
It's not though. A perfect vaccuum means that there's nothing. No atoms at all. Space has an average of a couple atoms per cubic meter and is thus not a perfect vaccuum.

>>41165061
yes, i get that. but how do you think that matters in relation to what you were responding to?

>>41164938
>forest fires
LOL what? That's not what forest fires look like.

>>41165069
go search the image

>>41165065
nta but,
what is actually above the atmosphere?
Water?
Ether?

>>41165065
>yes I get that space isnt a perfect vacuum
>but where do you get off saying its not a perfect vacuum

>>41165080
not much at all

>>41165088
see - you can't explain why you even made the statement in the first place. you've no idea what point you were even trying to make, just like the flat earthers who repeat this pointless little fact.

Just came in here to tell you Satan is the one and only true god, and if you dont bow down to him, you will be seriously fucked by fate. Only by worshipping Satan you will be rich, healthy and wise. Also Stacy's kids will all turn gay, because that's our agenda, so your resistance is futile.

>>41157111
What do you believe anon?

>>41165140
But satan means adversary

>>41165167
Exactly, he is the adversary of the npcs and their lord, the mechanical demiurgue, who is not even conscious of himself.
Pcs are all in league in Satan, that's why they rule the Earth.

>>41165176
There are no npcs. you’ve been memed on

>>41165188
Ok, enjoy the current exciting product.

>>41163271
That looks like a cartoon, anon

>>41163870
You can? I always see them out of metal.

You have a link to a rubber one someone has made?

>>41164673
We actually have hashed out the math and the conclusion is that a 3 body system is chaotic. The math has been hashed.

>>41164731
Vision will always disappear from the bottom up thats just how optics works.

If a clown with giant clown shoes and a giant top hat starts walking away from you down a perfectly flat plane you will see the shoes disappear first before the hat. Objects that are taller can be seen from longer distances and there is more visual fuzzing at the surface than there is against sky.

Nothing to do with ‘going over the curve’

>>41164861
They really cant help but sling insults i think they are mad they have no freedom of thought and only believe things big brotherssays is ok to think

>>41165110
>I'm off in left field and forgot where we even were, so that means you too are afflicted
>I'm only responding to 1 person and dont realize 2 people replied
you dont appear to be quick enough mentally to have this discussion
do try to keep up
I mocked one of the flerfer memes posted
and you tried to use my mocking of it to call me a flerfer because you're too dumb to understand that space isnt a perfect vacuum
is this shit that hard to figure out?

>>41164861
>you really shouldnt call people who believe utterly retarded things retards
flerfers get btfo on substance every time

>>41165342
>you're too dumb to understand that space isnt a perfect vacuum
i understand it. im still waiting to see if you understand what your statement meant in the context of what you were replying to. can you explain why you felt the need to say it in the first place?

>>41165333
>on a perfectly flat plane, you'll still see things disappear from the bottom up
>cuz there's things obstructing it from the bottom or something
flerfers are hilariously stupid
if there's nothing at the bottom to obstruct the view, how does this work in the flerfer's mind?

>>41165364
>why did you mock the flerfer meme and then mock me when I incorrectly thought space was a vacuum and called you a flerfer for it
like I said, you're too slow to keep up with who's even replying to you

>>41165326
its also solvable apart from in the sense that a single run of the equation produces a 100% accurate prediction of movement for all eternity.

Look for the entry by Paul Mainwood, though others are useful too.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-a-3-body-problem-and-why-is-it-unsolvable

>>41165317
Metal isn't necessarily magnetic. Gold, silver and copper for example are nonmagnetic. I can't be arsed to look it up but you can probably find one made from a nonmagnetic material, or if not, you can build one yourself. That's what science is all about.

>>41165372
like i said, you have no idea and were just spouting shit for no purpose.

>>41165386
a core of lead would render the thing pretty much immune to magnetic influence too, while being very dense.

>>41165390
have you even figured out which person who responded to you that you are talking to yet

>>41165402
it doesn't matter to the point at hand and i dont care. the fact still remains that people waffling on about how space isnt a perfect vacuum never can quite get around to saying how they think it matters. what difference do you think those few atoms/m3 make?

>>41165365
The ground itself gets in the way and near the horizon you have more and more visual data packed into a smaller and smaller field of vision.

Contrary to what people seem to assume, the human eye does not have infinite resolution and the ability to see infinitely far.

Near the surface you also get a number of optical mirage like effects because air is actually a fluid.

Kill flat earthers. Squash flat earthers under giant granite balls like indiana jones. Shoot flat earthers into the vacuum of space. Sink flat earthers in the ocean by making them even more dense. Burn flat earthers in rocket engines in space. Cut flat earthers with lasers. Bend flat earthers into a curve. Spin flat earthers at 1000mph. Fire flat earthers into the distant sun. Smash flat earthers into the surface of the physical moon. Stomp flat earthers heads in with theodolites. Beat a flat earther with a giant pendulum. Suck flat earth eyeballs out with a vacuum cleaner. Drown a flat earther with spherical droplets of water. Crush flat earthers skulls with sundials. Compress flat earthers into a smaller and smaller field of vision. Refract a flat earther through a prism. Throw flat earthers down a well. Stake Flat earthers out on the ground with sharp sticks. Throw flat earthers into the Grand Canyon. Flatten flat earthers. Bury flat earthers in the earth.

>>41165386
K well you cant be arsed and just assume people have done it before

Even still you cannot prove a causational relationship all you got is a theory but havent proven the causation at all.

Every time I have seen one of these pendulums they are giant and made of metal and usually inside of a ‘science museum’ of sorts so I don't really consider it amazing proof of anything just a showcase of a really interesting physics trick.

>>41165486
funny how they all behave in a way which is predicted by the globe model. flat earthers dont even have a theory. they just have 'nuh huh' or maybe 'its magnets' or something equally devoid of meaning.

>>41165503
A globe doesnt ‘predict’ anything thats why zero people navigate using a globe they all use flat maps.

Just because some freemason wizard claims to know why something happens doesnt mean that he has proven it.

>>41165522
>nobody navigates using GPS
hahaha oh boy. please, go educate yourself, this is embarassing

>>41165386

All metal is magnetic, just not all metals are ferromagnetic, i.e, attracted to magnets.

>>41165528
Gps is ground based using triangulation and has nothing to do with a globe tho

>>41165566
lol, please stop. theres only so many 180 degree wrong statements the board can take.

>>41165486
The build one yourself. It's literally just a heavy object hanging from the ceiling with a string.

>>41165566
>what is WGS84?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Geodetic_System

>>41165577
You build one

>>41165579
Satellites are fake and gay.

NASA number one purchaser of HELIUM rofl

>>41165415
>what difference do you think those few atoms/m3 make?
refer back to the fact that planets and their atmospheres are clumps of matter
flerfers want to talk about you cant have a vacuum next to an atmosphere, it would just escape
without being intelligent enough to understand that there's simply a density curve with no absolute vacuum
does this catch you up on the things you missed out because you have not thoroughly read this thread?

>>41165541
correct, some things like gold are paramagnetic and can induce electric fields with movement

>>41165682
>Satellites are fake and gay.
>no you havent seen real satellites even though you observed real satellites with your own fucking eyes
its just amazing the level of stupidity in the world today

>>41165729
If satellites were what nasa said they wouldnt even be bright enough to see with the naked eye

The fact you can see them at all proves they are low atmosphere tech

>>41165682
of course the next stage is denial. lol

>>41165713
>a density curve with no absolute vacuum
which is entirely irrelevant. this is why i always ask people coming out with what they seem to think is the value point that 'space isnt a perfect vacuum' what difference they think the 0.0000000000000000015psi makes.

do you see what im getting at? do you see why its utterly pointless to fire back against a flat earther with crap like this?

>>41165823
>If satellites were what nasa said they wouldnt even be bright enough to see with the naked eye
i would love to see you attempt supporting that claim with anything other than 'i say so'

>>41165831
Inverse square law and basic common sense

>>41165842
>i say so
thought as much

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>>41157111

>the video that buckbroke globetards

>>41165889
really getting all the rotten oldies here today lol

>>41165824
>do you see why what I believe in my mind makes my assertions real
lmao, you're a fuckin tard and 75% as bad as the flerfers

>>41165904
what assertion?
you've not grasped the point this entire time have you? goncerning

>>41165673
I have no need to prove to retards like you that the earth is a globe, because you'll just ignore it like you do all the other evidence. If you care so much, be my guest though.

>>41165889
Rockets don't work by pushing off the atmoshpere. They work via Newtons 3rd law. The rocket pushes fuel backwards and the fuel pushes the rocket forwards.

>>41165912
>its too small to matter so we might as well call it 0
why do you fuckin gaylords act so goddamned obtuse, esp when you btfo yourselves

>>41165842
you just make this stuff up as you go dont you? mirrors a couple feet in diameter can send heliograph signals up to 183 miles horizontally through the thicker parts of the atmosphere in broad daylight, and you want to claim that sunlight coming from much larger solar panels on satellites cant be seen from LEO at night?

lol

>>41165971
you still can't explain what difference the 2 atoms per cubic meter make to anything can you? all this time you've been dodging around trying to hide it. sure you're not a flat earther? they also have problems admitting when they dont know something.

>>41164657
Hahaha yes and then what? You realized, and then... what? Are you going to stop working? Stop paying your taxes? Are your going to revolt? LMAO!
You don't have it in you. You are worthless, you're not even a cog in the machine, because nothing would change if you stopped churning along.

>>41166031
>why does it matter that the density slowly drops off
>why does it matter that it doesnt drop off all the way to 0
>I can just call it zero and say you dont know what the difference is
dumb bullshit like this happens when you fail to read or comprehend what's being said to you

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>>41166058
>nobody even said it was a perfect vacuum in the first place
so, what difference do the 2 atoms per cubic meter make again? is it a difference that only exists in your mind or can you demonstrate something real?

>>41166098
I already brought you back to the beginning and you ignored it
you are an obstinate retarded fuck

>>41166172
and you cant answer a simple question about your own statement. let that sink in.

>>41166031
No I didn’t make up the inverse square law.

Dang how much alleged curvature would 183 miles be??? Lol. Amazing that a straight line signal carries that distance.

There’s a difference between a concentrated mirror that is trying to focus light vs a solar panel that actually is meant to absorb as much light as it can and not focus and reflect it.

>>41165950
Thats absolutely not how rockets work only theoretically once you are ‘in space’

If your only method of travel is using newtons 3rd law shouldnt there be better ways to accomplish that than combusting a bunch of fuel?

Military rockets definitely fly as fast as they do because they are pushing off of the atmosphere.

Stand on a skateboard and throw something really heavy behind yourself and tell me how fast you move in the opposite direction.

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>>41166375
you're really flailing around here buddy. the heliograph was sent between two mountains which are easily visible to each other over that distance even with a model excluding refraction completely, as you can see in th epic
>difference between a concentrated mirror that is trying to focus light
they arent though. they are just mirrors anon. solar panels are made of glass and reflect plenty of light at the right angle. they are also quite large. are you going to now claim that solar panels do not in fact reflect light?
>No I didn’t make up the inverse square law.
but you did invoke it without even attempting to use it. you merely used the name as a magical incantation hoping it would obscure your ignorance.

>>41166387
>Thats absolutely not how rockets work only theoretically once you are ‘in space’
yes, it absolutely is
>because they are pushing off of the atmosphere.
no, they absolutely are not
>tell me how fast you move in the opposite direction.
oh ok lol, you're trolling. understood. nice work.

>>41165484
Cant agree more.
I can only add, do this all in the name of Science.
Because Science is based, and Space is glorious.

>>41166387
It depends on how fast you throw it behind yourself. If you throw millions of fuel atoms backwards at huge speeds, it'll accelerate you quite a bit, because although they don't have a lot of mass individually, there's a fuck ton of them and they're moving fast as hell.

>>41166826
Millions of atoms…. U trying to make it sound bigger than it is for some reason??? Lol

Grab something decently heavy and throw it behind yourself and see how much that helps you go forward.

Oh and dont forget the more fuel you bring the heavier it is to begin with and get off the ground.

>>41166700
One might say that mirrors are slightly more reflective than solar panels yes

And ‘satellites’ are generally visible as a single point of light that moves through the sky. What are the chances the solar panels are shining at the observer for its entire path through the sky?

>>41166910
they must be very close to the ground and have their own lights on board then. they must be balloons with big lights on them, or just more random things being projected onto the inside of the dome. its all so much easier to be a flat earther. things just make so much more sense

>>41166887
>U trying to make it sound bigger than it is for some reason??? Lol
do you even know what avagodro's number is, retard

>>41166887
>Millions of atoms…. U trying to make it sound bigger than it is for some reason??? Lol
i like your style troll

>>41166887
It depends on how fast you throw it or more specifically, the force you exert on it, because that's the same force it'll exert on you. Your arms aren't strong enough to accelerate you significantly doing that, so you won't go that far. A rocket engine however exerts a fuckton of force on the fuel atoms it shoots back, so they also exert a fuckton of force on the rocket and accelerate it significantly.

>>41167034
but that sounds like magic

>>41166178
This was a fun false flag to read. I wish more of you flerfers did shit like this, it was funny. You really made your opposition look retarded. Well done.

>>41167034
Well anon i completely disagree. I do not think without a medium to push onto that a ‘fuckton’ of force is being applied from the rocket to the fuel atoms. But its nice to hear the thought process.

>>41166946
So… you can see satellites all the way ‘in space’ with your naked eye, but making a high altitude balloon visible is too hard ?

Are flat earthers the first and earliest example of the death of sincerity on the internet? I remember that shit starting out as trolls since AOL days, then grifters picked it up and made careers out of it.

>>41168982
Anon, flat earth has been around a lot longer than AOL rofl….

Love flat earth and love how the bible is a flat earth book. :)

>>41169079
The Bible is cringe, and flat Earth is even more cringe. Synopsis: you are cringe (and retarded.)

>>41167834
You don't need a medium to push off of. Newtons 3rd law works the same in atmosphere or vacuum. If you push something away from you with a force of x newtons, that something will also push you away with an opposite force of x newtons.

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>>41157111
Reminder there is a dark side of the sun the sun is not ball fale moon rocks kicked out and never allowed in honest real miseums shur down nasa psyop

>>41169629
Looks fucking retarded. Which is exactly what a Jew would invent.

>>41169633
Hmmm interdasting

>>41165889
as an engineer this is the most retarded thing I've ever seen. literally playing with toys
kill yourself i beg you

>>41157111
It's indeed a form of a great filter, after a fashion. There are /x/ things out there we still can't grasp, but flat out (pun intended) denying science is quite absurd.

>>41165950

Completely absurd, as this >>41166068 image illustrates. Literally "the rocket pulls itself by its own bootstraps". In this sense, I wonder if Yankee humor meant to deride Americans is not, in fact, an attempt at depurating Yankee lies.

>>41167703
im not a flerf, and the question still hasnt been answered.

>>41167859
whats hard is making a balloon follow a highly predictable flight path for years on end and getting it to go around the world every 90 minutes or so.
its easier to use satellites for that.

>>41169788
it must be a troll.

>>41157184
>only americans seem to believe in this garbage
some of the most ardent flat earthers i've talked to were from europe too. this nonsense is everywhere.

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>>41157184
it comes from pre-abrahamic jewish texts, namely the talmud. sheol represents where they thought hell was in those times. some texts refer to a more "world tree" interpretation where it's thought be less of a physical map and more of a spiritual link. others refer to it as a straight map.

either way the answer is pre-old testament jewish scrolls/texts.

>>41170574
Made me think of Flatzoid who lives in south Africa. He can easily observe the south celestial pole and also see that the sun rises and sets in completely different directions than what the flat earth model predicts but still he choses to believe in this garbage. Some people are completely helpless.

>>41170780
seems to me that it functions like a cult and satisfies the same needs and desires that cults do. even usually reasonable people can wind up in those and om not sure if flat earthers were ever capable of reason in the first place

>>41170500
Do you think jumping or throwing objects is impossible? Because rockets work on the same exact principle.

>>41170691
>it comes from pre-abrahamic jewish texts
>namely the talmud
>the talmud being compiled around 500 AD

>>41171065
the talmud also contain arguments for the earth being a globe. its got both.

>>41171065
the talmud as a "book" was compiled after death, the scrolls and texts themselves contain works from far before.

>>41171099
>the scrolls and texts themselves contain works from far before.
Texts that discuss Jewish history and characters from the Torah.
I guess these pre-abrahamic jews had a time machine.

>>41157228
So you haven't read Genesis?

>>41171130
its not a flat earth book at all. stop reading your silly cult ideas into the Bible.

https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/earth/does-bible-teach-earth-flat/

>>41171117
im not going to argue with someone who refuses to read, or research readily available information for themselves.

here's a fun fact, the oldest known talmud scroll, also believed to be the first, has scrolls made of human leather.

>>41171140
>here's a fun fact, the oldest known talmud scroll, also believed to be the first, has scrolls made of human leather.
need a source

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>>41157111
The flat earther fears the 24 hour sun in antarctica
>muh ice wall
>muh you can't go there
yes you can, stop coping

>>41171193
remember all the retarded shit they came out with trying to call it fake? from 'the shadows are all wrong' to 'its a huge studio you can see where the screens join' lol.

>>41170501
>and the question still hasnt been answered.
dumb retard, you continually avoided the entire point, ignored when your question was answered, try to interject some arbitrary density that you have no idea where the density is as such and then attempt to force questions based off of your strawman creation
you've forgotten where this all began and have just been trolling the whole time with
>b-but you cant answer my simple question
and are obstinate about why it is ill defined to begin with
usually this is because of double digit IQ
reminder this began with you calling me a retarded flerfer for accurately saying that space is not a perfect vacuum
>>41164846
>another deeply retarded objection that flat earthers seem to love repeating and yet never bother to elaborate about because they can't. Imagine regurgitating so many embarrassingly stupid little statements gleaned from the Flerf Canon of dumb memes
then you go on to ask just how can it be that nonzero isnt equal to zero
tell me dumbfuck, why should nonzero be equal to zero?
then here you go on to start arguing with someone else besides me >>41165061
continuing to think you're arguing with me, dumbfuck that you are
even admitting space isnt a perfect vacuum
then going further to say why does that matter, you think its equivalent to 0 regardless and provide nothing to back up why outside of thats just what you believe
>>41165110
>see - you can't explain why you even made the statement in the first place
now you've gone on a tirade for this entire thread treating someone else's post as mine and trying to just keep trolling and arguing based on this
you are the worst type of poster on all of 4chan, not just /x/

>>41157111
but it flat U globtard shill water seek level! No curved earfh

>>41171193
this is not proof the took Jeranism to a set and drugged him

>>41171181
Still waiting on your source about human leather and the dating.
Your pic has a picture of Eliphas Levi's Baphomet which was made in 1854.
The Talmud is 5000 pages of densely written text. That's 12 pages with a sentence each.

>>41171198
Yeah, the final experiment thing shattered their reality. Now the argument is to call everything fake and gay. The flat earthers that went there stopped being flat earthers and they were called shills and paid actors. Absolute kino

>>41171201
>why it is ill defined to begin with
nobody fucking said it was a perfect vacuum in the first place. only you felt the need to inject your retarded statement, despite having no fucking clue what you even meant. you still dont.
You've no fucking idea how your big revelation has the slightest impact on what that equally retarded pic was saying and you refuse to even attempt explaining why you think it does.

>tell me dumbfuck, why should nonzero be equal to zero?
its fucking not and NOBODY said it was apart from you. the pic didn't say it was a 'perfect' vacuum at all.

>then going further to say why does that matter,
are you going to explain why it matters in this context or not? Or are you just going to keep avoiding to admit that youve no fucking idea and merely came out with your unnecessary statement without having any idea why?

>you are the worst type of poster on all of 4chan, not just /x/
i find the worst posters are those who can't fucking explain their own statements but just keep repeating themselves over and over instead of answering the fucking question.

>>41171023
>Do you think jumping or throwing objects is impossible? Because rockets work on the same exact principle.
jumping and throwing objects work because you have a force that works against your feet/the object is thrown from an arm that works against it. There is no way a rocket could get further and further if there is no force to work against it like the ground - when you jump using your feet. so it's impossible for the rocket to work using its own internal combustion to push against itself to it can move by itself inside non-atmosphere space - it's ridiculous glober

>>41171213
it was really quite funny. didn't witsit just go quiet for a bit and then carry on flerfing anyway?

>>41171298
yeah, because actually having a job is harder than receiving donations from brainlets by lying

>>41171310
true enough. seems like a pretty sweet gig if you dont have a conscience or any standards.

>>41171293
>if there is no force to work against it
the huge controlled explosion inside the engine provides all the force it needs. pretty cool right?

>>41171290
>nobody fucking said it was a perfect vacuum in the first place
>the phrase perfect vacuum doesnt exist
>it doesnt matter that space was being compared to a vacuum chamber inside an atmosphere, indicating that the air should just all go pffffff away out into space if that flerfermeme was somehow fucking real
this is called you being utterly fucking obtuse
>its fucking not and NOBODY said it was apart from you
ass hole, your entire argument here is that the value is so small that it is indistinguishable from zero and then prodding me to explain why a tiny number is not indistinguishable from zero
>are you going to explain why it matters in this context or not?
dumb FUCK, this is the last time I'm explaining this to you
there are clumps of matter distributed throughout
this means there are islands of clumps
and what's in between never drops to 0
THIS IS WHY IT MAKES NO SENSE FOR THE MEME I ORIGINALLY RESPONDED TO, TO BE REAL
dumb FUCK

>>41171472
>then prodding me to explain why a tiny number is not indistinguishable from zero
which you have not done and clearly cannot do. you can huff and puff etc but this simple fact remains - you have no idea what you're talking about, but you just had to insert your 'well its not a PERFECT vacuum so there' bullshit to make your self feel smart.
>and what's in between never drops to 0
nobody said it did. its just not there. and you dont know what difference it would make, if any, just the same.

>>41171489
>no I refuse to consider your frame of reference
>there is only my frame of reference
>there is only my question
>it doesnt matter that my question doesnt even fit here
>it doesnt matter that my question is ill defined in the context
>I want to consider just one tiny context, ignore the things the flerfer meme asserted were true
>answer this otherwise you're just trying to make yourself feel smert
yeah I'm gonna have to say, we've reached the point where you need to be told to go the fuck back
you cant even understand what's being discussed so you just have to keep repeating yourself and making semantic arguments
people that behaved like you are lucky because back in the day we'd just kick the shit out of you and stuff you into a locker for being a fag

this is why you dont enter flerfer threads, kiddos

>>41171556
all these long replies and you STILL cant even say why your 2 atoms/m3 matters in the slightest.