who were they? what did they know? how did they fall? why are they being hidden from us?
God is an Elf who lives in a fancy mansion.https://youtu.be/8PIWcE-knU4
>>41157922tartaria is a blanket term. it started as literally the asian empire but now it means everything before the 1850s reset. old world buildings, old world technology, free energy, free/ cheap transportation, easy worldwide travel, individual freedom, perhaps magic, mythological creatures being real. the most recent iteration is that tartaria/old world was the Millennium Kingdom described in the Revelation chapter 20. allegedly all the cathedrals and technology was created during while Jesus ruled for 1000 years on earth. personally I do not buy it but a lot of people do and think that we live in Satan's Little Season also described in Revelation 20. the tribulations and Armageddon already happened and shortly the Great White Throne Judgement will happen.
>>41158100Sounds like typical American christcuck mental illness coming from shitty education. >>41157922There was no Tartaria as an actual empire and it had nothing to do with the magic rabbi Jew. Russians called the swarths of land, they haven't conquered yet(filled with asiatoids) Tartary. It wasn't an empire, but a bunch of Tatar and Mongol leftovers. But hey. Be a stupid fat American and believe in some magic Jew kingdoms because schizos on YouTube said so.
>>41158118>Sounds like typical American christcuck mental illness coming from shitty education.pretty much. the initial tartarian research begun as an international movement based on Fomenko's revised chronology works. the little season on the other side is purely an American christian conspiracy tube invention and is still being pushed exclusively by them to this day.
>>41158118it is purely based on the Bible.Jesus's coming was clearly imminent and the Apostles thought he was coming in their lifetime.
>>41158118>>41158147>>41158157>no goy, stop looking into your own history! let our (((experts))) tell you what your people were like.
>>41158157if you only look at that, yeah, makes sense but the Isaiah description of the kingdom makes no sense in the little season narrative because it clearly states that war, disease, aging and death will be no more. children will play with wild animals and people will live forever in perpetual youth yet somehow it all ended after 1000 years and we regressed back to the sinful state. according to the little season idea Jesus returned in 70AD but his kingdom started some 700 years later so that it would match the 1750s-1850s reset timeline.
>>41158186Kill yourself you illiterate retard
>>41158186the idiot didnt even tag the proper posts
>>41158100>and think that we live in Satan's Little Season also described in Revelation 20. the tribulations and Armageddon already happened and shortly the Great White Throne Judgement will happen.I also think it's clear that we're in that phase of the human alchemy experiment right now. But anyone thinking the Great White Throne Judgement will be happening soon is delusional. They're opening the 7 seals again, we're on number 2(frequent small attacks). Seal 3 will open 2028 and will involve not a physical famine(although that will be possible in a few places) but rather a spiritual famine(maybe involving ai and entertainment). Also, if it wasn't obvious, the great catholic monarch(which is the second beast of revelation) is going to come into full play at some point, probably a year or 3 after 2040(the sixth seal of destruction). That means the nu-antichrist likely won't be hitting till 2066 after a nice period of chillness and peace under catholic rule. But since we're in "Satan's Little Season" so to speak, there's the possibility for many unpredictable things to pop up.
>>41158236>2066the end is gonna come within the next 5 years bro
>>41158243lol no. You have sooooo much more to go through. Seals only started opening on 2020. One opens every four years aside from the seventh seal which will take longer. The whole point of this process taking so long is to slowly polarize people into either being soulless cattle or self-actualized and spritiual. This isn't something you can pull off in the next 5 years lol. The plus side is that it's all easy enough to get through as long as you don't get swept up with the masses(aka the christian reich that's about to rise up in europe and america)
>thread gets derailed right from the startinternet is well and truly dead.
>>41158268Matthew 24:22If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.Mark 13:20If the Lord had not cut short those days, no one would survive. But for the sake of the elect, whom he has chosen, he has shortened them.the tribulations will be a very quick succession of events. I cant say how long but I is clearly not 40+ years. also it did not start yet. 1 Thessalonians 5:3While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.this „Peace and Security” even will be the thing to trigger the End Times. immediately after that the world leaders will give their power to the Beast aka The UN/One World Government and it will attack and destroy the Prostitute aka the conglomeration of false world religions. after that it will attack the elect but at that exact moment God and Jesus will intervene and start the Battle of Armageddon (Zechariah 2:8). only then the Millennium Kingdom will start with the survivors here on Earth under the Rule of Jesus and the Elect.
Is Tartaria derived from Tartarus?
>>41158312shut the fuck up christcuck, go spread your aids somewhere else
>>41158389it could be, the gate to Agartha in the Himalayas is not too far off Tartaria proper so maybe they had something to do with the underworlders.
>>41158401kill yourself nigger
>>41157922>who were they?they were muslims in central asia. today there still is an oblast in Russia called Tatarstan >what did they know?the quran>how did they fall?communism >why are they being hidden?literally half of conspiracy facebook groups, rumble videos, tiktok brainrot is about shartarians! you call that hiding ?I think the tartarian online movement is yet another jew-orchestrated anti-white campaign to demoralize white people and to tell browns that WE CREATED DA CATHEDRALS AND SHIET!! It is basically we wuz kangs for the other browns.the principal ideas are: white people could not have built the cathedrals.white people could not have built the Chicago World Fair (even though there are plenty of pictures of the construction process and scaffolds)white people did not discover electricity it was all done by brown central asians using free energy devices.the bell towers are ether/quantum energy antennaes.the wall of china was built by tartarians to defend themselves from gooks.All of this until the evil white caveman created by Yakub killed the tartarians whit a mud flood (that they never explain how was created) or they melted the mountains with hutchinson effect directed energy weapons.so basically if you take all the most retarded shit from rumble and bitchute and mix it together into one big melanoid superiority complex, that's what it is. and make sure to steer people's attention from the jew hypothesis
In Xanadu did Kubla KhanA stately pleasure-dome decree:Where Alph, the sacred river, ranThrough caverns measureless to man Down to a sunless sea.So twice five miles of fertile groundWith walls and towers were girdled round;And here were gardens bright with sinuous rillsWhere blossom'd many an incense-bearing tree;And here were forests ancient as the hills,Enfolding sunny spots of greenery.
>>41158683You're digging way too deep into this.It's jast western europeans and americans mistifying a distant region. Same shit as memedella effect in regards to NZ position in relationship to Australia - "conspiracy" that is pushed by people far away from Australia and New Zealand. Bottom line - lack of knowledge and education results in a crazy theory.
>>41158728no it's not, Tartaria is a global phenomena. no one is mystifying anything here, we're looking at evidence the way we see it.
>>41158868That building is gorgeous…Always knew something was ‘off’ about those old photos but we didn’t used to have the internet to talk about this stuff together and connect the dots. They also memory hole any independent thinkers and slander them after death. There was some cool historical historian who was talking about lost empires and the such connecting to the old world ruins and his Wikipedia makes it clear this dude was heavily slandered for speaking truth back in the day. I imagine a lot of people’s grandpas had pieced together some of the old world history ideas but they didnt have anyone to listen and most just dismissed it as their crazy grandpa ranting again about the old world and fake history and freemason liars etc
Hyperborea myth > Tartaria
>>41158906i'm sad my grandpa passed away before i properly got into this, i bet he would have loved to hear about it. still it is weird that according to mainstream historical narrative we simply "did it" when it came to these great edifices and when the 19th century hit we started "just doing it" even more and suddenly now this kind of construction is utterly impossible for us modern humans.>>41158916these are connected actually.
>>41157922it never existed
>>41158389nopefrom the sauce
>>41157922This reminds me of the Japan situation. Supposedly exists, but I can't find a single place where people call their country Japan. American propaganda has its location at the islands of Nippon.
>>41158933>this kind of construction is utterly impossible for us modern humanswhat exactly is impossible?
>>41157922Just a reminder that Tartaria retards literally take away from Human achievements. They claim that Europeans were retarded and couldn't build the fucking buildings. Even Star Forts were apparently built by some le epic Nephilim kike book giants. I understand that Americans can't build actual buildings that aren't made from cardboard, but come on. To make up the whole conspirancy just because you're incompetent.
>>41159092You clearly dont understand Old World / Tartaria at all because USA is full of old world structures they just slap a newer fake history on it duh
>>41159121Totally not built by Europeans. It was obviously biblical nephilim. How's that Rapture going for you?
>>41159032This is a mother anon thread and you are responding to him. He is unable to make sense or produce a coherent argument. That say I enjoy his tartaria threads because it’s a fun concept but actually engaging with him is worthless.
>>41159123Litterally zero real christians believe dates people say the rapture is happening because the bible clearly states that no man not even the angels know the day. Hows the weather in Tel Aviv?
>>41159174Wait, so if we assign a unique day for each person to believe the rapture is coming, does that mean it will be forever postponed? As there will always be a man who knows the day?
>>41159174Yeah, I'm jewish for shitting on jewish fantasies and people like you taking away from White's might. What a classic. I'm a jewish white supremacist kek.
>thread completely derailed (most likely by a seething samefag glowie)
>>41159291Your idiocy has been shut down with first posts. Deal with it. Fuck off to your christcuck youtube circlejerk.
>>41159291Who is seething?How do you even discuss this without disagreement, some people will say it’s old and built before some kind of mudflood. Others will say it’s new and point at evidence that it’s new,This is what you are going to get. You look like the derailer.
>>41159210Well u just admitted it so I would never even joke about being a joo wtf
>>41159190If you are just wildly guessing days because you were assigned a day because everyone got a day and you just so happened to get the right day then did that person actually know the day?Do you even attempt to answer ur own bad thought experiments or do you just diarrhea the first thought that comes to your head and hit post?
>>41157922leisure time (life wasn't about working all day).When you have abundance, peace and prosperity, it frees your time to work on higher level concepts. It's all in their beautiful architecture. (((Communist))) dictators hate art because it inspires and motivates people to do better. This is why their buildings are always ugly as fuck. To kill the human spirit within, to subjugate it and kill all hope for a better system. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxsNU7ZZAlU
>>41159384>If you are just wildly guessing daysNo, no, of course not. It would be an organized effort where the choosing is handled by esteemed leaders, so that people can have faith in the day that is chosen for them regardless of how it was chosen.
>>41158982chili sauce?
>>41159563https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartar_sauce
>>41159190LOL, I've heard worse ideas
>>41159384Who the hell are you, Mr. Fun Police? This is fucking /x/ not a double-blind Stanford experiment concerning Rapture beliefs. You sound perfectly miserable.
>>41157922>who were they? Muslims who ruled half the world in the Middle Ages. The country's approximate borders can be seen using the map of the distribution of Turkic languages in Siberia and Central Asia.>what did they know? How to fight and capture neighbors.>how did they fall? Climate change, technological backwardness compared to Europe, and lack of access to sea routes meant that within a couple of hundred years, they were fragmented and devoured by their neighbors, although the country still existed in the early editions of the Encyclopedia Britannica; you can find an article there.>why are they being hidden from us?Europe was desperate to destroy Muslim civilization and had been working toward this goal for centuries. And China isn't far behind; just remember the Uyghurs.
>>41159916>destroy Muslimsthat's OK in my book
>>41159658Good, maybe I've got one.What if this has been happening for a century already? Not every person, just enough people to fill each day of the calendar with complete conviction that the rapture is upon us in one person's mind. They'd have to be told to keep it silent, but of course not everyone would. We'd be seeing people come out of the woodwork proclaiming random days are going to be the end, building a following, then being proven wrong time and time again. Oh wait, we do.
>>41157961p er rys at an
What even are the core principles of this theory?Something akin to ancient Egypt but 18-19 centuries Europe and Russia instead? Like "there's no way it's locals who built all those buildings! it's ayys/lemurians/aryans"?
>>41157922Tartaria is something on par with Hyperborea or Avalon or some other mythical land. It's unrealistic, but Muslims love Tartary to aggrandize themselves.I also saw a funny video suggesting that Greek Tartarus was somehow connected to Tartary.
>>41158868>Tartaria is a global phenomenaIt is not, Tartaria is being used to cover up the other global events that took place.I learned of Tartaria from a guy who had TONS of stuff on it, and a wall map of it. No one gets it right, I’ve said it a few times, here it is again, spread this.>Silk Road starts>trading posts with water and food along the way>they start to accept goods and ship stuff themselves>meaning the route you have to take is shorter, they can “baton pass” goods down the line>these trading posts become towns and then cities>ruled by “common folk” not royalty, just traders or caravan guards that got popular>European royalty doesn’t like this, keeps them separate>they also have their own religion which is a mix of Christian, Muslim, and pagan/ witchcraft>China doesn’t like them because they control the inflow of trade and lots of the land>China attacks one city, kills everyone >everyone else gets nervous, nothing happens>over the next 100 years city by city, China kills them all>calls for help from Europe are unanswered>further west cities don’t help other ones because they are told by China if they don’t they’ll be spared>last city begs for help, gets none from Europe>is destroyed, both sides agree to cover it upThis is the story, the cities were actual multicultural paradises, with Arabs, Asians, and Europeans living in luxury, with vast wealth, spirituality, and technology.>pretty sure one city hired mercenaries and repelled like one wave of attack from China, but then got wiped>one city near China agreed to join them and now to the emperor, then got slaughtered anyways>the last 2 cities did help eachother, but it was too little too late>the church encouraged this slaughter because they had a religion that wasn’t Christian or Muslim and had a lot of pagan influenceTartaria was never anywhere else, unless people fled and brought their wealth and culture with them, It’s all the Silk Road.
>>41160041that's proper schizobabble, thanks anon
>>41160041
>>41160041>these trading posts become towns and then cities>ruled by “common folk” not royalty, just traders or caravan guards that got popularNot quite. Technically, they were also the Golden Horde, plundering cities from Baghdad to Kyiv. Modern historians, for some reason, have labeled them Mongols.
>>41159684I am a math guy logic is fun to me
>>41159425K but that is blind faith (in some bogus men no less) not knowledge so it still doesn't hold
>>41160097The whole history is murky because the Silk Road existed since 200 BC, but there were many iterations of it. From what I know the war on them took 100 years, was mainly China, and I remeber either some Russia queen or princess tried to help and failed, or there was a story where they had help coming and they betrayed the city and helped China slaughter. These places were so rich they were ripe for plundering. I’m pretty sure an Arab nation, maybe the ottomans, also invaded the ones in Middle East, but didn’t slaughter them like China did, just forced conversion and robbed them.
>>41160291yo, samestarted programming when I was 13mostly use it for maths>>41160303>K but that is blind faithSo? Ever heard of infinite regress in epistemology? It all boils down to blind faith.
>>41157922they worship reptilians from another planet, but we're not allowed to know that
>>41160321I mean. U are clearly arguing in bad faith and dont even believe the bullshit you are saying u are one of those niggers who likes arguing for the sake of it so there ya go
>>41160336Umm, no, this a well known conclusion in philosophy and logic. When it comes down to it, all of science is based on faith. Without faith there is no progress. It is that which we believe without evidence after all, like when we assume something in a proof to demonstrate that the resulting conclusion is impossible. That's faith leading to truth.
>>41160355Well thats cool i dont believe u tho
>>41160370It's a common enough idea in the scientific community, I'm sure you'll see it again.
>>41160381Yeah and ‘the experts’ are retarded so go on listening to them all you want i stopped a long time ago
>>41160410I found this on my own, then after doing research I found out many people had discovered the same thing. It's a common thing to happen for mathematical hobbyists.
>>41160428Im not a math hobbyist I have an undergraduate and graduate degree in mathematics and I teach math as my profession.
>>41160458That's cool. My degrees are in linguistics and computer science, but math is way to interesting to just stop after learning about things like information theory and set theory.The first thing I really dove into on my own was mathematical philosophy. It really helped set the stage I think, but it's a shame because if I bring up something like the excluded middle, none of my friends recognize it or care. At least you've got an outlet with teaching.
>>41160491What is cool is that now I teach math at a school where I can talk about God and it is way better. Universities are satanic hellholes glad I left
>>41158147it's also literal we wuz kangz niggers, i remember a good chunk of the tartary videos back then were about how blacks ruled tartary and somehow evil whites then took over, destroyed everything and keep it a secret
>>41160514Why didn't you go to a Christian university then? My mother was a professor at one for a while (medical doctor). Every class had to talk about God in some way, it was a rule.
>>41160534Because I wasnt Christian until later in life, anon.
>>41160309It's not entirely logical. In the 15th century, Russia consisted only of Moscow and neighboring regions; in the 16th century, Kazan had just been sacked and they didn't venture further. From the late 17th century, the entire Russian elite was subordinate to Europeans and slowly conquered Siberia. Samarkand was captured only at the end of the 19th century, and even then it had already lain in ruins for a hundred years.Tartary fell into decline much earlier, sometime in the early 18th century, when Russia was just recovering from the Time of Troubles and China was beginning to decline. Neither China nor Russia had undertaken such extensive military campaigns at that time.
>>41160548Hmm, well I suppose learning is what youth is for. Thanks for sharing anon. I believe the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so I bet you're a good teacher.
>>41160582I can raise my children to know Jesus from a young age it is all good. I am definitely tormented by things Ive done in the past though. One of the biggest lies satan tells is that it’s better to regret something youve done than something you havent done. Oh nonono that is very not true lolllYou will be haunted by the bad choices you made in the past and we have a long time in heaven to do all sorts of things so it’s not a big deal to miss out on something down here its gonna be a million times better in heaven anyways
>>41160606One thing thats brings me solace is knowing that God is going to memory wipe us of the most bad stuff that happened here. I forget the exact verse but I could probably find it if someone wanted me to I think the verse implies that God is even going to memory wipe himself of lots of the sin from this world which makes it extra badass that God can memory wipe himself
>>41157922They were us, they knew exactly what history says they knew, the only thing they failed at was not killing your multi-great-grandparents when they had the chance and they're only hidden because graverobbing is illegal.
so, why don't we build like this anymore?
>>41163178>weyou are a stain on the face of humanity, tripfagthere is no we in individuality
>>41163178Because majority of modern "engineers" are mutts just like you.
Tartaria is schizo wewuzzery mixed with scientology
>>41163178the world we be a better place if all columns were swol dudes
>>41157922Tataria is the same as Atlantis and Hyperborea. The pre-flood civilization simple as
>>41163599No one the claimed tartaria buildings are that old though
>>41163622tartarian buildings are that old
>>41163178The simple answer is styles have changed and we use glass and concrete. The old ways of masonry and ornamentation are expensive.That’s why.
>>41163694was it a natural grass roots movement to switch from tools and electronics that last lifetimes to those that last 1 - 3 years?
>>41163701It’s just cheap.People don’t think long term usually anymore. In UK much of the Victorian and Edwardian stuff was designed to be monumental, even sewage pumping stations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6y9w3z4gncIn the last century or so we go disposable and functional for everything.That’s the real Tartaria story. A deterioration in craft and a move to utilitarian faceless stuff. So good older architecture looks impressive because it was.Now with AI we will lose even more traditional craft.
>>41163715you didnt answer the question you just rephrased the point it was based on.... >People don’t think long term anymoredid this happen naturally or was it imposed on the population?>That’s the real Tartaria story. A deterioration in craft and a move to utilitarian faceless stuff. So good older architecture looks impressive because it was.seems you 100% buy into main stream history (would you mention what topics draw you to x?) too much shit has been intentionally erased and had a cheap facade tacked up on it.
>>41163733>a cheap facade
>>41163661There are no such things as tartarian buildings. Just claimed ones
>>41163739>Just claimed onesmost of history works just like this
>>41163733I like remote viewing threads and I enjoyed /fox/.But I maintain the answer is cheapness.The mainstream answer is right here because the buildings the Finnish neet OP is posting really aren’t very old. We know who built them and when. You want to make this interesting you need really ancient buildings. Two hundred year old and less stuff won’t cut it.
>>41163744i mean im posting south american sites with cheap facades over megaliths and >>41163733 grekoroman floor plans because they are ancient...so... i ask you was it a natural or imposed movement from quality to quantity and your answer is - its cheap - .... okay, remote view this site here and tell me whats under the ruble under the cheap modern facade?
>>41163753I said I like the threads, I’m not any good at. You can’t really do remote viewing like that anyway, the viewer is meant to be blind to the target as you end up having preconceptions when asked like that. But let’s just leave that alone as it’s derailing.The stuff you are posting is old and as you say one is Greco-Roman. You even state the origin. So what’s the tartaria connection? The OP is posting fairly modern buildings on a grand scale. I don’t think you are even talking about the same thing.
>>41163779> So what’s the tartaria connectionif you remove the fluff this conspiracy is basically this - ALL over the earth theres this one style of building, alot of em are fucked up and burred. so so so many of the ones that arent have been defaced erased facaded renamed and reclaimed.
>>41163779annnd it gets weird if you deep dive central BC cause the ones there are clearly burred in ice age moraine
>>41163808It was a common style in the 1800s and early 1900s.
>>41163808Fine but >>41163753 and >>41163733 are not in that style unless you make the claim that there is something hidden below it. Which of course we can’t see so that’s pointless.In fact pretty much all of the modern buildings posted have known architects and styles and they are not the same.So you have to find something truly ancient that you can show that is somehow in the style of a building that is currently in New York, Helsinki, Dresden or whatever. So far nothing like that is posted.>>41163815And you can show one of these? Your image is totally unrelated as that hotel has known build dates and a known architect. It’s very well documented.
>>41163836>a known architecthow many other things did the same guy make?> known build datesthe reason your reading this on x and not learning it in school is because main stream history is questioned>are not in that style unless you make the claim that there is something hidden below it.well the first image is in this style but its been scraped down to the foundation, ignore the zig zag wall and look at the square buildings with round center chambers. and as to something hidden below it >>41163741 huge megaliths, > Which of course we can’t see so that’s pointless.are you only respond to me and not reading the thread?>So far nothing like that is posted.>>41163733look at the floor plan of the ruins and compare it to the silly zig zag>And you can show one of these?i mentioned one i was aware of in the okanogan valley afew years ago and with in 6 months an out of country suttpumping company rolled into town the place was closed and super early am renovated, like 1 am to 6 am kinda shit, no one in town knew what was going on but now theres a guarded (again out of country contractors) door in the side of a hill and no one in town i ask about even knows of it ><but if you want some hits look for towns founded after 1940 that have 3 - 5 story brick buildings with populations under 5k... youll find alot...
>>41164180If you want to question mainstream history with verified dates, newspaper reports, construction diagrams and all the rest then you need better than that. This is vague stuff about things near you with no name and suchlike.It’s not convincing to me, if another anons think it is then fine but trying to demolish known history with this? No.>look at the floor plan of the ruins and compare it to the silly zig zagSo what? Things got built over different time periods. You are still trying to claim this is hiding something but you cannot show what it is. I’m not seeing the epic Tartaria civilisation here.
>>41164970It's useless to talk to tartaria schizos
>>41163178The short answer is ww1.
>>41164970oh im not trying to convince you im getting to know you.>hidden below it >>41163741 (You) huge megaliths,> Which of course we can’t see so that’s pointless.are you only respond to me and not reading the thread?why do you think i require you to know what i know?
>>41158236lol jews plan, God laughs
>>41159978explain?
>>41157922They were the golden horde. They started being called mongols only in the 20th century. The theme is being used as a PsyOp in order to claim the US western coast to China. The idea is to avoid a future war between Russia and China, while destroying the United States hegemony.
>>41158217>>41158222Oy vey, the goyim are noticing!
>>41165157Noticing what? Your illiteracy? Tatars were chinkoid horsefuckers, nothing more.
There's overwhelming evidence that all of this tartaria shit points toward the millenial kingdom already happening and us being in the little season of satan. I think if you've given this matter an earnest and honest looking into, and still think its nonsense, then you're a dullard with low iq. However, I suspect most people deny it because they either can't stand the thought of christianity being right about something(guess what, pretty much every major world religion is right about some things) or they're christcucks themselves who are butthurt about missing the millenial kingdom. There's old maps with "Land Of Jesus"(Terre de Iesso) on them, which is a giant land mass in the pacific between california, russia, and japan. Doesn't get much more obvious than that.
>>41164180Underground water tank for Ogopogo.
>>41165453What did jewish rabbi do so far away from Judea?
>>41165621He was ruling the entire world. Any kingdom's rulers that didn't attend his annual feast would be hit by droughts(modern day muslim nations). It was meant to be a glorious age of harmonious progress with benevolent and sustainable technology. You don't seem to understand we don't live in a random reality. This is all a great alchemical experiment to find out who is wise and responsible enough to handle cool anime-tier powers. Everyone who misses the mark will have to reincarnate a shitload more times until they stop being retarded.
