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Sometimes it's like the one in picrel and sometimes it's a goth girl. Could this be an anima manifestation? If so, which one is my anima?

I feel like they are both different, or one is an evolved version of the other
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>>41159597
She looks almost exactly like my exgf who miscarried my baby and died from opiates.
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>>41159597
Few nights ago I started seeing a woman like this appear in my dreams also, she kept appearing multiple times and I finally talked to her, she didn’t seem evil, but something was strange about her.
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I woke up in a dream seeing someone similar to this, tried to cop a feel and they vanished
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>>41159761
>but something was strange about her.
What do you mean? What's was strange about her?
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>>41159597
Why arent these boobies released? That shirt and bra must have an ancient spell of holding.
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>>41159842
She seemed totally “with it” like she knew what was going on, observing me, I ignored her, and she just calmly watched me dream, judging me, then I talked to her, and she was like “oh finally,” and I knew something was up with her, she said I was almost ready, then like tried to tempt me, and I didn’t give in, and she was glad, like it was a test, I made some jokes that made her laugh and when I stoppped goofing around in my dream she said something like “oh, so you are actually aware/ able, I was beginning to think this was a fools errand.” And I said like “if you want to talk to me, maybe you should talk to me, instead of standing there watching.” Which she found funny.
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>>41159842
>>41160398
She also had a blazer skirt on or like a grey business dress skirt and jacket, and I moved places in the dream many times and she kept appearing, out of place, I’d be riding down a river, and she be standing on the edge, I’d be at a party with people I used to know, and she’d be standing there in the room. Someone else in my dream talked to her and she like brushed him off, not brutally, but concisely.
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>>41160398
That's interesting. Can you elaborate more on the temptation part? What was she tempting you with? My experience was somewhat similar, like I could tell she is more advance than me, more mature and in control of herself, and she knows it too. Sometimes I think she could be some sort of guide. Do you think she is good natured?
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>>41160430
She wasn’t instantly hostile and seemed in good spirits. Yes, she clearly was in control and knew what she was doing, I tried messing with her a bit, and she responded not in a instantly hostile way either, like “good trick” or something, she did either feel like a guide or a judge.

Weird I just remebered I was in an underwater cave mapping it, after I met her, breathing in certain sections,

It was like pic rel, I slept in it in my dream and then the tide filled the room and I was glad I wasn’t asleep when that happened, it was supposed to be terrifying, but I was fine the whole time, after mapping it she came up and asked me, and I drew almost that, but that is a little inaccurate.

I have a few theories of what exactly she might be. But idk.
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>>41160539
I think your experiences with her match mine in many aspects so please share your theories about what exactly she might be because I'm at a loss, especially because I have a hard time when it come to finding out whether or not I should trust her or her very nature
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>>41159597
I just came here to take a gander at them titties. Not going to pretend I know what the fuck you're talking about.
It sounds like something similar to the tulpa nonsense people used to spam. I'm afraid I don't have any answers, friend. I'm completely clueless with such things.

But I do appreciate the nice tits. Being a monkey-brained man is difficult at times, ya know?
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qrd wtf is anima? also, could it not just be some kind of entity/demon trying to get you to fall/become a coomer for them/give them lust energy?

They either
1. want you to become coomer/gooner to give them lust energy (for them) if they're some entity or succubus
2. they're there to try to trap you, get you engaged in society, work towards find gf/wife, so you "fall" by getting you playing the game. Basically they act as an "inspiration" that gets you playing the demiurge's game
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May I hijack with my own Jungian problem?
I am female and really like getting into the energy of powerful male figures or imagining myself as them, action guys from movies or rock musicians. It's at the point where sometimes I just see a picture of a cool man and feel a surge of adrenaline and want to be like him. I'm not trans, nor is it a sexual thing. It's just about power and confidence.

What do I do about this? There must be some spiritual practices or Jung life advice. It seems like it should be a starting point for growth.
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>>41160790
I would say try to embody the same characteristics you find appealing on those male characters. Let's say you like Jack Sparrow because he is adventurous, so the female equivalent could be Lara Croft from Tomb Rider
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>>41160790
That's sort of what action movies are meant to elicit in people, though, right?
It's a power fantasy. If I had to wager, you probably like the idea of being strong and confident, where everything works out and you're admired for such traits. I'd say your assessment is pretty accurate with regard to the power/confidence.

It could also be that you have an innate disposition for empathy and attempting to empathize with such people feels good but also foreign, since it's such a departure from your own natural state.

Either way, I don't see it as a bad thing.
Do you get the same impression with women in those roles? Like Uma Thurman in Kill Bill?
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>>41160592
Ok,
>a succubus bestower judging if you get a succubus
>some sort of human dream-walker, judging if you’re worthy of whatever groups “benefit”
>an NHI judging if you’re worthy of their benefit
>an internal review of yourself from the pov of a female who has her shit together, to see if you’re worthy of a gf/wife
>a spiritual guide/ tester, seeing if you’re worthy of their benefit
>a demonic agent sent to deceive you and infect with some mystery thing
>a benevolent guardian of sorts, judging to see if you’re allowed to gain access to more power
To me, the thing does not seem demonic, its personality is almost human or even fey. If it’s a human, that would be almost stranger than if an entity. There is a subtle sexual aspect, which makes me think succubus, but also it seems like it’s a tempt-test, which could mean you succeed if you deny it, so could be benevolent, wanting to test your self control.

Tell me more of what you know or remeber so I can gain more insight please.
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>>41160826
>>41161088
I don't get the same feeling at all from powerful women, no. I have wondered why myself. That's why I think it must be the Jungian animus.
I often feel powerless and placeless, like I don't belong somewhere or contribute to it.
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>>41160790
Relationship with father? Most media, especially old, shows men as the heroes, so you may be just a proactive heroic female that has been conditioned by media to see only men that way.

Yeah, do you see Alita battle angel, uma Thurman, or Lara Croft like that? Maybe watching media like this could undo that conditioning. As a male I have often times connected with female heros or characters, especially since media has tried to flip the genders, but I don’t see them as ‘just a female’ so I pretty much ignore their gender and focus on their other aspects. Joan of Arc is a good example, her whole story is based af and wild, she’s dealing with thousands of retards who just want to kill her for selfish reasons, they lie and make up other reasons, and yeah, as much as on 4chan we talk about how women are retarded, men are also just as retarded, with only special individuals surpassing the retard boundary.

Tbh you’re probably one of the good ones. Don’t sew a meat stick to your crotch.
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>>41159597
Your anima has several versions... the fact that you're trying to figure out which one is which could perhaps come from your ego trying to understand who she is through its own perspective and interpretation of itself. Perhaps...

she's in your dream, but you're also in hers.

The goth version may be a part of your anima that's currently crossing the shadow, or even a fusion of the two, or perhaps she's like the key to the shadow. The other, more mature and experienced version may be a purer form of the anima because it seems to have better integrated its emotional and instinctive form, which brings a lot of strength and intelligence.
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>>41161397
ick
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>>41161352
In my case she seems to imply that she has matured and is trying to guide me towards the same. She strikes me as someone who has seen the darkness of this world but chose to follow the light without denying the existence of the ugliness of the world we live in

That's the energy I feel when she appears, also I feel like she is wise. And the enviorment tends to be in a rural area or a forest and I feel calm

So I think it might be a guide or maybe the final version of the anima perhaps?
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>>41160790
Nothing. Just accept it for what it is and be confident and comfortable with yourself if you are able to. Nothing wrong with that. Now get a move on, cowboy.
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>>41161573
That makes perfect sense Anon, I think you hit the nail on it's head. What can I do now? How can I integrate my anima?

I'm also wondering if I could one specific version because when she appears as a goth and the more mature one I end up confused because I don't know if they are the same, could it be possible to end up with just one version?
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>>41161397
I've always looked up to my father. Now that you mention it, that might be relevant since I was always disappointed in my mother in terms of competence and stuff. My relationship with both parents is good.
Powerful women just don't have the same forceful energy as powerful men.
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>>41161384
Given what you've said, you would probably be in the early to mid stage of developing such an animus.
Your description of adrenaline is interesting, though. It clearly illustrates a heightened state of arousal -- not necessarily sexual. That's an element that seems somewhat atypical from most of what I've read. But it's entirely possible that's your way of integrating such traits into yourself, even if temporarily.

As for what to do? Hard to say, since we're not particularly familiar with each other. I think you could benefit from self-observation meditative exercises. Gurdjieff wrote some fantastic work that can really help be a guide; Ouspensky did as well, adding to his works.

I think practicing some of their self-observation methods would be beneficial for you — or literally anyone for that matter. But it may help in your case with gaining a better understanding.
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>>41159705
Jokes on you chud. Still living this miserable existence
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>>41160702
No, it's a part of your psyche, just like your ego, or your unconscious, for example.

She could be a succubus or a tulpa and even a oneitis only if your mind has not yet integrated her as a part of yourself and she would manifest as a projection of your imagination outside of yourself..depending on your own psychology, experience with women and your beliefs

Yes, anima can motivate you to find a woman. Depending on your relationship with your anima, it can end very badly, as you mentioned. It depends on whether you have certain emotions that you reject and refuse to feel, I think.
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>>41160790
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UuowJhHI54&list=PLcK7bIgWruScqqG-6T__Kkoi8AYdHsDIK&index=2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEWjPtTOMZo
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>>41161939
So isn't best solution to just reject this anima shit, since this is more or less a fake world anyway? If I feel I'm in a concentration camp or milk farm, the last thing in my mind would be to birth more slaves, or to work to better the system
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>>41161352
You are worthy n have infinite value. Don't let women judging you cause what they do is project their undeveloped animus onto you and dont let this negatively influence your relationship with your anima.
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>>41159597
Oh boy I've had this problem myself and I am by no means an expert nor do I have all the answers but rather this be the anima, separate spirit, hell maybe even both depending how open minded you are, but if these are beings who do not have a solid form then it should be safe to consider they might change their appearances based how they are you feel at any given time. Ask yourself if this and the goth girl are appearances you find attractive and if she might be trying to appear as such. Everyone has got their taste and it may change a bit here and there, and there could also be themes associated with appearances as well.

Since you know what the anima is, might I suggest you also looking into the personal daimon, granted it's where demon is derived from but look at it in the Greek classical sense as well as some new niche psychology ideas, a good place to look is the YouTube channel NewThinkingAllowed and Patrick Harpur.

As for the succubus angle that's been something around since day one with the Lili, Lilitu, Ardat-lilî of Ancient Mesopotamia. Like any spirit I think ya got good ones and bad ones so take it for what it's worth but never assume it's black and white.

Not sure if tulpas can just show up per-made via the subconscious but who knows. I first noticed something was up when I was around 5 or 6 and saw some wisps of faint steam and a heatwave ripple while alone once and it resurfaced again when "she" appeared in my dreams. Also noticed it when trying to learn to scry.

Mine has had fae/Nordic like qualities at time with the blonde hair and blue/cyan eyes. Shes also had a ghostly pale goth look with black hair, fiery redhead punk girl, and a down to earth brunette.
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>>41161716
animus is masculine too, what you say makes sense. seeing powerful men makes you feel adrenaline and therefore power too but it's your masculine side that probably feels it. it's good that you feel your animus I don't know the animus well.. but what I understood is that if it is poorly integrated or unconscious often it creates a kind of indevelopment.. we could believe the opposite but women who integrate their masculine side are often more feminine. if the animus is not integrated women could be insensible by wanting to make decisions too rational.. also mentally denigrating themselves like not recognizing their inner strength and it is empowering..
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Bump
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>>41159597
stop watching anima anon, you know it's japanese reproduction warfare
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>>41160398
that's a demon you moron
textbook tulpa succubus shit
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>hes an aloof dits
>shes a straight shootin' expert
Youre a woman.
Shes a man.

Its legally cis and hetero.
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Bump
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>>41166180
bump what?? wtf you need to know ?
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>>41161573
>>41161614
>>41166209
This
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>>41166238
Your anima can have several versions and evolve throughout your life.

I'm not sure how to unify yourself with the anima.. it depends on your relationship with it.. being conscious of the anima is already the beginning.. often the anima is unconscious and projected outside onto a woman instead of being integrated inside and unified with oneself..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yswvB0rQhcg
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>>41166238

It's hard to say. The question is how to make the unconscious conscious. In the same way that your mind has a conscious part where your ego and your persona live, you also have an unconscious part where the anima and the shadow live.
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>>41159597
These boobs. they offend me, they provoke me. I want to tear her shitty shirt to pieces, grab her boobs, and suck them dry, until the size decreases to A. Then I want to smack her face and say "now who's the cheeky cunt now, hm?"
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>>41159705
sounds like a one stone 2 birds situation
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>>41166833
>grab her boobs
squeeze them so hard until they are shaped like dics and suck them till they bust
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>>41159705
Bruh...
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>>41159597
Its demons
I have been given visions of them in my dreams, they disguise in things you like
For me, it was virgin Mary
For you, its that
Yell at it as loudly as you can until you wake up, then return to sleep
They will not return afterwards
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>>41167018
Yes, YE$S
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>>41159597
She looks remarkably similar to a woman I met in a dream.
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>>41161793
>I think you could benefit from self-observation meditative exercises. Gurdjieff wrote some fantastic work that can really help be a guide; Ouspensky did as well, adding to his works.
That sounds like what I need. What in particular should I read by them?
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Any interested in this might want to try Carl Jung's Active Imagination.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRVlWEwmbfQ

Also a good video on the personal Daimon/Daemon & Tutelary Spirit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LcB8cdCqxk

Also more titty just to spite the fags crying about aNiMe, cOoMeRs, & dEmOnS.
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>>41167009
Top kek!



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