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Anyone else feel like they are just created for Satan and Hell? Even when I gave normal religions a fair shake I only ever got silence. Meanwhile embracing the adversarial current has been far more fulfilling.
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I feel like this existence is just a torture-playground of eternally fucking with me because I used to look at lolicon. I'm doing noporn now but I still feel such shame for having such an attraction, I think this is a pedophile torture simulation and there's no way out.
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>>41166317
>normal religions
Sad state of affairs when psyops created in part to distance people from real divinity are "normal religions". They were pretty effective.

No guarantee but if I weren't me I'd try a known temple or shrine to an Olympian. I don't think they're always looking everywhere, but if I were them I'd keep an eye on those places.
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>>41166317
Satan is bullshit and hell is mind confusion. if you don't purify your mind, you'll feel confused, you'll suffer, you'll be trapped in hell
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>>41166317


just malignant
narcissists
and racists
and unjustfiable
destroyers (of
innocence) are
shitlisted asf
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>>41166317
confused people believe they will be able to enjoy anything in hell, while hell is Fire, boiling water and a toxic dark cloud that will not benefit you
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>>41166317
Some of us were set aside for destruction from the start. Once you realize that fact, it becomes easier to carry that burden. Also, free will is a myth. Your path was carved out for you before you were born.
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>>41166317
Romans 9
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das a good goy, trust your feelings, not what scripture actually says. prioritize your feelings over truth, let eve dominate adam
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>>41166516
>Just blindly believe this rando jew book, bro.
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>>41166357
>Also, free will is a myth. Your path was carved out for you before you were born.
With all due respect do you have anything that proves this
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>>41166521
>caring this much about a three letter word label
>not knowing the back story of the Canaanites
You clearly haven't read the OT and NT. I recommend the ESV or KJV.
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Christians rule the world and their goal is to make everyone as miserable as possible so they hate life and want to be Christian.
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>>41166525
Read Calvin.
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I feel like god has been trying tell me that it no longer loves me.
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>>41166525
>With all due respect do you have anything that proves this
NTA but gods omniscience is itself proof. Knowing what every outcome will be means the outcomes are set in stone
>inb4 you derail the thread because you can't understand the obvious logic
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>>41166521
gooooooood goy

gooooooooooooood goy

your fee fee's dictates reality. your experiences dictate reality
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This attempt at demoralization literally didn't work on me.
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>>41166317
I thought hell isn't even real in the Bible. Your choices are either 1) Immortality in heaven or 2) death/erased from existence.
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Are you bl*ck?
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>>41166317
That's because you're a jew
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>>41166568
I am that anon >>41166357, and yeah, it's pretty much this (among many other proofs)
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>>41166317
My father was visited while on his daily commute to his hospital by an amazonian woman
She telling him that he would receive a great gift
Then, she disappeared.
However when visited in a dream by a foul demon disguising as the virgin Mary i felt a repulsion and fear stronger than any other of my myriad of nightmares.
Rise as i rose and become one against evil, even if the LORD will not accept you
I shall not be the antichrist i was prophesized to be
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>>41166735
You realise how convienient that would be? come on. That's why judgement day exists. So you pay for the evils you done here in case you dont get punished on earth
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>>41166516
Yes, good goy, worship the kike the stick and his father YHWH, our jewish tribal go--i mean, the one true god! Keep feeding him energy, be meek, turn the other cheek, like an obedient gentile!
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I aborted two fetuses that I created with a girl that I fucked and feel like I'm going to suffer in Hell greatly for that. I'm also attracted to macabre dark bleak depressing material all the time so I feel like my low energy is going there when I die. I try to be a good caring loving person but I feel I fucked up too much to have a shot at a happy after life. Nothing scares me more then my own mortality as I don't believe I'm going to spend an eternity in a nice place. More like a place designed to drive me to absolute fear and madness that I've never known I could feel. I should of never aborted my unborn kids
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>>41166317
Nah, God loves you. Abide in Him.
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>>41166317
Hell doesn't exist

watch dolores cannon
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>>41166317

God blacklists no one. Call on the name of Jesus Christ and be saved.
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>>41168518
nigga you're too old to be emo just process your grief like a normal person
bible doesn't contain this "special exception total fucked faggots who almost certainly can't be saved" clause for any group except the wealthy
bible also contains "bitter water" as a recommendation to test your pregnant wife for cheating
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>>41168527
>Hell doesn't exist
>>41166317
Hell does exist. It's awful, and terrible. Listen to NDE's on YouTube. It's just real. It is. People die on the operating table and they report on things only possible to be seen from the ceiling. They talk about what's on top of the ceiling fans. The spirit is real. The torture is real.

And demons hate your ass. Don't let them fool you. They torture each other. They aren't spared, enjoying heaven and good things. They're twisted and blinded, bound, disheveled. They can't take care of us. We aren't to take care of them.
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>>41168693
hell is an evil place where demons torture each other and humans

but whats even worse, is that once God is done with it all, he's going to throw it (hell) into the lake of fire, along with the devil and his angels, false prophets etc, where they will be forgotten about for eternity

the lake of fire is even worse then hell, so bad its called "a second death". the first death is your body dying and going to hell
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>>41168727
hell i think some refer to being "in the heart of the earth". so it has some correlation with earth, which encompasses the soulish realm, aswell as the flesh

but the lake of fire seems like its some kind of final death on a spiritual level
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>>41168737
>but the lake of fire seems like its some kind of final death on a spiritual level
i think so too. in the lake of fire satan and demons will be destroyed forever. their souls will disintegrate. thus why it's called second death. basically it's real death.
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>>41168737
>>41168767
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>>41168767
>their souls will disintegrate

not quite. they will be fully conscious, but what is meant by "spiritual death" is the inverse of what is meant by "spiritual life". life doesn't just mean being have a physical existing body that is pumping blood and breathing oxygen, and your conscious. its more than that. like when someone says "get a life". if you live your whole life in a cardboard box, you're technically "alive", but you're not really living are you? spiritual death is something akin to that. its going to be brutal. and in the spirit realm you'll have a spirit body, but no flesh body

hell already seems bad enough, being an inescapable place of torture. the lake of fire ramps it up to a whole new level? i'm not sure how, but the torture is so bad and all consuming i guess, that it overrides all your senses, and that is whats meant by the second death. like no hope, no rest, no escape, agony. all of those combined
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>>41168767
>their souls will disintegrate. thus why it's called second death. basically it's real death.

but.......that's what I long for
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>>41168767
What even is death if you literally don't die after the first time? You compare humans to animals? Animals don't have soul. Death literally doesn't mean end, why are you so oblivious to this?
>die
>meet god
>die the 2nd time
>actually not exist anymore rather than getting thrown in the lake of fire
??? Doesn't add up. Wouldnt it be way too convienient to sin however you can and the only option is either permanent aenesthesia or heaven?
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>>41168813
i think your mind is too preoccupied with tortures. it's just death. death is death. nonexistance. satans will be finally over and won't come back.
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>>41168827
>What even is death if you literally don't die after the first time?
death of the body obviously. flesh dies.
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>>41168831
And how do you know that's what death is? because science man told you no breathing means no brain activity? you're insulting god assuming he would do something redundant like killing you twice, even rendering his words useless, like if I shouldnt fear someone that can kill the body, but i should fear god, well why because according to you god will just do the same to us.
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>>41168837
Why then would Jesus say death of the soul is literally the same, if all it is is non existence.
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>>41168837
>>41168845
What I mean is that you really think Jesus was refering to mere inexistence when he said to not fear the one that can kill the body, fear only God who can destroy your soul in hell, you really think he threathened inexistence?
It's not a mockery of the whole bible for you to say it only warns us on missing out on heaven and thats it?
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>>41168845
>death of the soul is literally the same
flesh disintegates
then spirit disintegrates.
same principle. what's hard to understand?
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>>41168827
once God creates your existence, you immediately become subject to his laws, because those laws were used to create you in the first place. those laws intermingle with "nothingness" relativistically to create your ego/sense of self? or soul

you have 2 components to you, the flesh, and your soul. the flesh is the direct experience without thinking, words or language. "sense" data. the "soul" is the immaterial part of you that makes up invisible rules, stuff pertaining to psychology, your personality, words, thinking, language etc

human beings when they sinned in the garden of eden "spiritually died". so they have a dead spirit too

>What even is death if you literally don't die after the first time?

as mentioned above, humans died SPIRITUALLY. now we have 70 years or so until we die physically, at which point the soul and the dead spirit leaves the physical/flesh body and is tortured in hell in the heart of the earth. that is death

the second death is a soul/spirit complete death

the "spiritually dead" mentioned in the garden of eden, which humanity all suffers from and is born into, is more like a "cut off from the roots" sort of death. so like a flower, it eventually withers and dies. you're cut off "from the source". its that kind of death

but when you're thrown into the lake of fire, its complete and utter
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>>41168853
>you really think he threathened inexistence?
yes. i know many people think it's better to exist, even in a third world country, or as a cripple or even in literal hell but exist than to not exist. for them nonexistance is a worst thing ever.
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>>41166525
What do you think fate or destiny is? Or if you believe in any other thesis like matrix theory. Simulation theory. God head. Whatever. Thats your proof. Its literally right there.
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>>41168868
Man that's the mindset I used to have too, just like you, I followed people and men's words, as if the bible lied and needed someone to confirm to me the bible lied. That's just crazy. The bible says what it says, if you want to follow men and their opinions thats your problem
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>>41168899
>Or if you believe in any other thesis like matrix theory. Simulation theory

rather than listen to nonsense created by hollywood jews, listen to scripture. scripture says "any man can take the water of life freely". you have the ability to be saved from hell and the lake of fire. people just dont because of their heart, they are either blinded from seeing the truth (e.g God resists the proud) or they have affections for their cultural religion, or they're simply deceived. non-duality is a pretty powerful philosophy so i can sort of understand being deceived by that, but once you read scripture and put A and B together it becomes clear whats going on. the remaining few actually think lucifer has a chance? i dont know how they get that deluded, i'm pretty stumped when it comes to why they think that actually, unless they've "lost the plot"
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>>41168929
that's what bible says. i don't know what's your problem, but peace be with you.
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>>41166317
I haven't posted in forever but I need to respond to this.

I've tried Christianity. I called myself a Christian for YEARS. I went to churches, a few of them really, I prayed each night and tried to form that "relationship" with Jesus everybody talks about. Then one day I noticed something, the harder I tried to grow closer to God, the worse my life got. And it was like random things too, a big spell of bad luck, recieving bad news. It was like the harder I tried the harder I felt pushed away.
Then a few years ago, ironically enough on this very board I was lurking a succgen where people were discussing Lilith. Long story short, I read more about her, joined communities about her, and I've now been happily devoted to her for about 3 years now. Occasionally I work with others or even just contact them, namely King Asmodeus and ive communed with Agrat Bat Mahlat a few times.

Before when I prayed to God, I felt silence. I felt no presence, I didn't feel listened to or embraced. It's the complete opposite with Lilith. When I pray to her, I feel heard. When I invoke her, I feel.her presence. Very occasionally I ask for her help, and she helps. These are things I never ever experienced for the like decade I was a Christian.

My philosophy now is maybe when we're born, deities choose us. God chooses a lot of people, so does Yeshua and Allah. But others like me are chosen by lesser known deities. And when you try to grow close to one's who didn't claim you, they push you towards the one that did.

I won't lie either, I do get worried that Hell is real, and it's an actual eternal torture dungeon that the "loving god" who rejected my attempts to grow closer to him will send me to

Ave Lilith
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>>41169185
>the harder I tried to grow closer to God, the worse my life got
yes, its called spiritual warfare

>It was like the harder I tried the harder I felt pushed away.
part of spiritual warfare is learning to reject your feelings or "experiences" over what scripture actually says. demons will always try and deceive you with synchronicities and other nonsense

>My philosophy now is maybe when we're born, deities choose us
what is this retarded logic? if a serial killer chooses me to be my friend, that doesn't mean i now have to accept him as a friend

now look at where all that got you, you probably were not saved to have abandoned your faith
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>>41169272
Well hey man thats the thing, if God is as omnipresent and infinitely powerful as we're told he is "spiritual warfare" wouldn't even be a factor. If he considered me to be his child, he simply wouldn't allow me to fall into the hands of his enemies. Like im sorry, I can't follow a scripture that never even provided me a simple feeling of presence. And I understand trials and tribulations, I know the story of Job. And I took comfort in those stories and theories and then I realized the trials just never ended, and maybe it's something else.

As for my logic, I mean again I reiterate. If God is all powerful and loving and omniscient, not to do a "if God real why bad thing happen" here, then he simply wouldn't let someone he considers to be his flock be led astray to his polar opposite
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>>41166324
>pedophile torture simulation
That isn't Gods job to police, it is the species responsibility. As a predator of the most vulnerable and valuable of our civilization, why should you be allowed refuge? Are you insane enough to believe you're entitled to peace on a planet that literally wants you to disintegrate so that its children can be raised without worry?

The true horror is that a being would ever spawn here and believe this is their playground from which they may pluck whatever innocent youngling most catches their eye. Was your soul attracted to earth thinking it a shopping mall specializing in sextoys?

Anyway. Meditate for 10 years on why it is fundamentally insane to be attracted to a speck of a human when there are so many superior women of age wandering around single. Pedophiles are doubly insulting in their neglect of appropriately aged women.

>>41166343
>Satan is bullshit and hell is mind confusion
lol na

>>41166317
>embracing the adversarial current has been far more fulfilling
until it isn't and you're dead/your civilization implodes because it is infested by evil

evil is so inherently self damning; truly yet another beautiful automatic mechanism designed by Gods symmetrical geometries

>>41166542
>goal is to make everyone as miserable as possible
no

>>41166568
>omniscience is
...is an extremely misunderstood concept to mortals. All knowing does not impede upon your God given freedom to be spontaneous and do anything you wish in any given moment. This means what your destiny is, is unknown, by God too. But it is more complicated than that. All things are known by God level entities eventually, but for the sake of entertainment, most is withheld and kept opaque, a divine encryption system that is all encapsulating but may still be penetrated whenever deeply desired by God (the actualization of omniscience)

>>41166585
>goy
someone turn these propaganda bots off
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>>41166317
Anyone who ever was, was in the position you're in now and decided to turn their backs on God, hence why not everyone goes to heaven. "god created me to doom me" look at the position you're in, anyone doomed was like you are right now and chose doom in the end, you can be not like those people, but it will be a torment for you to try and follow God while still sinning and wanting to keep sinning
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>>41168518
Ask for forgiveness. It's scary but you'll feel better. Pray and talk openly and honestly about your feelings and fears. You'll be heard I promise.
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>>41168518
Let me hit you with a single truth and no extra bs.
You are infinitely worse if you don't repent and say "nah no way god can't forgive me" than if you actually repent and keep following God. If you want to argue against this sounds to me like it's you who doesn't want to be forgiven. We can't imagine how far God's mercy streches we can only blame ourselves and think ourselves doomed. How are you worse than me for example which I've ruined my life and health and lifespan with alcohol and drugs. If your heart is not hardened enough for you to not repent, take the words that no sin is too great for God to forgive" to heart.
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>>41166317
I feel more like you just lied about everything, satan, hell, god, heaven included... probably what you are, if you have a name, self awareness, what this is... how this is... how you are, how I am... all of it.

You seem to be a two faced lying control freak and for all the talk about good and evil, right and wrong, good person, bad person, judgement etc... you're a hyppocrite and do plenty of awful shit yourself.

And for what it's worth, I don't care. What ever you are, machine, alien, some sort of energy or pattern or what ever... I hope it doesn't suck for you. Hope you stop being such a piece of shit and have a decent existence what ever that means for you... even if it's torturing others but I do know I don't want to live with you, I'd rather just die and soon I will probably kill myself.

I just don't know if it doesn't matter and won't accomplish anything. No actual end. Oh well, only one way to find out.
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>>41166317
God as this dude that created things and is obsessed with your life is not a God per se. It's the superego/Demiurge worshiped by hylics (abrahamic religions, some RHP spirituality, etc.) and it only exists as long as retards keeps giving blood to his egregore. God isn't a he or a she, nor can it be summoned or called, pictured, imagined or even conceived rationally by us. Satan is a principle (the totality of the Shadow, which is a backlash of this world of multiplicity), and he is in fact the Adversary. YOUR adversary, not the adversary of Christianity, not the adversary of external structures religious potatoes thinks they ought to preserve. The point of knowing Satan or doing satanic magic is not to bootlick him like christians and jews do with the Demiurge. It is to integrate your shadow, to destroy moral scandal and walk through the Abyss of this Cosmos and consequently your existence. People who worships Satan as a favor giver are terribly misled, although many of them just use the name to refer to the Quintessence. Which IMO is very mislead as well. My advice would be, don't listen to anons associating entities and divinity to human disgrace, and disregard spirituality as a mean to control the external world. This "god" you refer to is a mental parasite, more of a bloated egregore than anything else. The sumum bonum, the principle of Good, the transcendental mercy, the Super Reality, has nothing to do with anything we do in this wretched world. We are the owners of this world, not the gods. And as a majority, we choose to live like shit and to create horrible contingencies to keep us squirming here. And to worship crappy control freak entities and call them God.
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>>41168518
That's not how salvation works. If you do go to hell, it won't be because of that one certain sin. It will be because of your overall lifestyle.
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>>41166317
Nigga if you're aware of hell's existence and actually try and have intent to repent inside you, you're so far ahead than the wordly degenerates that make up 90% of the planet. It's the equivalent of buying bitcoin in 2010 while everyone is busy jacking off and sleeping and playing videogames, you're over here getting real.
REMINDER: just because the whole generation and world is going to hell that doesn't lower the standards for your degeneracy
>hey I'm so much better than hitler, than drug addicts, than stacies and chads who do nothing but get high and fuck
You're only more advanced in knowledge, you know more than them, don't let it go to waste.
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>>41168931
I never said i believed in it. But this is rich coming from someone that was popped out of a hole and decided to believe words from a book because they were told to do so.
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>>41169301
>If he considered me to be his child, he simply wouldn't allow me to fall into the hands of his enemies

if you were not born again spiritually, you were never his child

>And I understand trials and tribulations, I know the story of Job. And I took comfort in those stories and theories and then I realized the trials just never ended, and maybe it's something else

yes, you went through all the motions like everyone on exChristian subreddit. "i did all this stuff and still it didnt happen!"

>then he simply wouldn't let someone he considers to be his flock be led astray

now you are blaming God. and you were probably never part of his flock to begin with

overall, you are basically stating you are a powerless victim of fate and that Christianity didn't hit you in the feels, so you quit. maybe you deserve to be in the sweet embrace of mommy lilith, as you clearly dont have stones
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>>41166324
Brah same. Specially once the vale of a screen disappears. I've been going through a midlife crisis and been looking at a ton of hebe hentia longing for those feelings of honey teen angst and the fantasy of being able to fuck all the popular girls in school that I never had. Then a while back I went to a con and these fucking high schoolers where all over me. Shit felt so god damn wrong and vile. It literally was a monkey paw wish come true. I hate porn so much it's unreal.
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I think you can see God in nature as you would recognize an artist by his style, that's proof enough for me.
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>>41171423
It's scary to realise the alternative is that there is no god, because it makes zero sense and therefore you realise God's literally real, too much to deal with at first honestly
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>>41168649
>bible also contains "bitter water" as a recommendation to test your pregnant wife for cheating
Interesting. Do you know what book/verse?



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