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The creator of the Intel 4004 is saying that your consciousness is not inside your body, but inside a quantum field. Your thoughts, emotions, all of it, do not originate in the brain, but in a field that talks with it, and then the brain translates as nervous sensations.
What is your take on this, /x/? Is our reality like a computer simulation where we are just moving a physical body like a puppet?
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>>41167770
You have to be fully retarded to believe this
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>>41167770
The aura that surrounds us?
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>>41167770
There does seem to be a quantum aspect to consciousness. Don't know the details.
t. diviner
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>>41167770
Yes this has been obvious to many people since the beginning of time. Memories can be retrieved from the Akashic, parts of brains can be removed associated with certain functions and people and animals can still do those actions.
Dr Bohm is right the universe is a hologram, ancient mystics are right and the universe is a fractal.
The smallest piece of matter contains everything that ever has or will happen.
>>41167903
>first response is a stupid glowfuck
Every fucking time
Go back 2 reddit with your stupid materialist reductionist viewpoint
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>>41167770
I've often wondered if DNA serves as a connection or antenna for consciousness.
There are beliefs that the brain "imprints" behavior from consciousness, forming an "ego." That our true self and material self are intrinsically tied together, but still separate. The brain imprints the material experiences of this life and those experiences help to form the ego. However, your consciousness and sense of self are not just limited to what's been imprinted and exists outside of it.

I can't help but feel that in some form all of these things are on the right path, but we're just not clear on just how complex it all is.

I've heard it articulated in much better ways, but I don't feel like writing a wall of text.
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>>41167957
>Every fucking time
Fags like that just come here to vent their misery and feel better about themselves. It's a small relief for the crippling depression and frustration they have.

It's a story as old as these boards.
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>>41167990
That’s even more pathetic than being a glowie. They just purposely want to argue but also don’t ever include facts to back up their one sentence denial?
That means they’re either glowies or their IQ is so low they can’t form coherent counter arguments
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>>41167903
Well, you would not exist if this guy was retarded, as he would not be able to build the 4004 and you, a bot, coded by some 3-letter agency, would not be here to answer me with your npc take.

>>41167957
I was on the street today and it ocurred to me, since the field have no location, and every one of us is a quantum field, then our quantum fields are as infinite as the universe is. It is the only to explain why only the interface (the body) have position in time (dasein) while the field is a sum of probabilities which interact with the universe. This fits a solipsist interpretation as well.
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>>41168181
>I was on the street today and it ocurred to me, since the field have no location, and every one of us is a quantum field, then our quantum fields are as infinite as the universe is. It is the only to explain why only the interface (the body) have position in time (dasein) while the field is a sum of probabilities which interact with the universe.
It's not probabilities per se. It's extradimensional and gods can do what they want with it, so it's unpredictable to us.
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>>41167770
unfortunately the truth is we are small lab grown brain fragments are semi-conscious, unlike humans in the real world that are fully conscious. the real year outside this reality is 3000+ and our brain fragments are kept inside a physical black cube on Saturn. the black cube is a quantum computer. our brain fragments power the quantum computer. the human brain is the most powerful quantum computer there can ever be. the aliens or humans of the future made us. there is no escape.
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theoretical physics are retarded, literally the /x/ of söyence, same autistic energy for schizo shit but good with numbers
>guys guys, like, what if we live in like the edge of a black hole???? it might be, like, true!! look the math see it kinda proves it!!!
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>>41170303
Fuck off back to /b/ normie. This is a schizo neighborhood. We doing science here.
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>>41167770
oh wow he made a cpu
I guess he must be right about literally everything else
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>>41170413
Not saying he is right, but what he said echoes what I already knew, but didnt put into words.
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>>41167770
And he would know this how?
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>>41167770
Believers of science: "we found the soul!"
All others: "yeah wow really..."
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>>41170647
He had a experience with the mithraic Chronos, a serpent revelation. I had one in the past and recognized the phenomena when he described it.
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>>41170662
Fluoride stare normies should line up and take the mRNA jab.
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our brains act like attennae that tune into a universal consciousness probability field. we decode our reality from that, and this is what gives you all your sensory experience.
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>>41167770
There is people with 3/4th of their brain missing yet still function
How does science explain retards? Do they have a soul?
Do animals have souls?
What about plants?
What about bacteria and viruses?
Explain consciousness
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The Intel 4004 was sponsored by DARPA. Darpa has long researched the human biofield. I'm not gonna look up the quote, but I'll just assume that he was exposed to some of DARPA's research on biofields and that's what he's alluding to.

Humans produce electro magnetic fields, just like anything with electricity running through it. There are not many published studies about it, but some of the public figures who've dedicated themselves to learning about it claim that all an individual's memories and experiences are stored in a roughly 6 foot diameter torus of energy around each human. In the aether model, this biofield would be linked to everything else in our physical world.

Look up biofield tuning if you're interested. There's a woman who does clinical research on it (for now). She uses sound waves from tuning forks to heal trauma and physical pain, though I'd assume that you can manipulate the human biofield in a lot of good or bad ways with all manner of freqs (light, radio, etc...)
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>>41170746
Greeks defined the 3 bodies of everything pretty well, 2000 years ago. What we sometimes call a "soul" would be the pnuema: the animating life force that requires breathing. It's where we get the word pneumatic. Anything alive has a pnuema, and if the pnuema leaves, the body will die. So yes, retards and Chinese have souls (pnuema), as do plants and even many rocks.

When you're talking about consciousness, you're referring to spirit, or what the Greeks called psyche. This is where we get the word psychology, psychic, etc...from. Your spirit/ psyche is your true spiritual self. It interacts with the unseen world. It's your "mind" as far as you're concerned with it consciously, but while you're occupying physical space, you have to share your access to your own mind with all the other spirits/psyches around. This is the big limitation put on us. Your CNS is a transceiver that allows your spirit to communicate, but it also picks up and sends out signals from other psyches.

With that said, i do believe it's possible for people, animals, plants, bacteria etc...to be alive (have pnuema) and not posses a personal spirit (psyche). They could still be receiving and transmitting info into the spiritual realm via the their CNS (or whatever physical equivalent they have) but just lack an individual spirit. That NPC idea has been around for a long time.
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>>41167903
Stupid glowbot that you are - worthless in every possible way. Go into obscurity and die alone idiot
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>>41167770
> What is your take on this, /x/?
heh, picrel
>Is our reality like a computer simulation where we are just moving a physical body like a puppet?
this is not any different from normal reality. the brain developed for one thing and one thing only - motility. some of you will have a hard time with that, and an even harder time recognizing that a brain is not the same thing as a consciousness
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>>41170847
> i do believe it's possible for people, animals, plants, bacteria etc...to be alive (have pnuema) and not posses a personal spirit (psyche).
what do you think about shared or collective psyches within these pnumas
like the aspens in colorado or some mycological species
my theory is that those creatures are closer to collective consciousness than we are, they just don’t have an independent/individual psyche to recognize it. part of this theory also includes the concept that we also share a psyche (example: holy spirit) but our various egos deny it to keep us separate from each other (something something variety is the spice of life)
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>>41170964
That's a hivemind. They share the same psyche, like women and npcs do among humans.
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>>41167903
Stop! i want to believe even when no evidence is provided REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>41170995
>muh evidence
Go back.
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>>41170964
Yes of course. Plants, animals, fungi, bacteria etc...can share information while separated by space, just like humans do with "psychic" powers (or technology).

Many cultures believe that most species of wild animals and plants have a "group soul", or what would better be defined as a collective psyche. An "oversoul" of one psyche (mind) that coordinates, communicates, and experiences with every being in the group.

I always think about the domestication of animals in this regard. It's almost like by domesticating animals, we sorta pull some of them out of their group mind and allow their progeny to be born with individual psyches. It makes me think that we were essentially group mind animals at some point, and some other beings started pulling us out.

Not to get on a tangent, but that's sorta what's described in the Enki/Enlil story of the sumarians. Enki gave us independent minds, when Enlil thought he was making a better slave race lol.
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>>41171004
Stop appearing on the front page
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>>41171022
Glow mad.
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>>41169786
why would there even be a black cube, or a saturn? or extant physical reality at all?
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>>41170929
This post is true
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>>41167770
Is this not common knowledge to people?
Do people actually think consciousness rests IN THE BRAIN?
Do people REALLY not think of the brain as an antenna?
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>>41167903
why?
>inb4 because I say so
explain the reason this is "retarded"
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>>41167770
This is common everyday knowledge among hardware level computer/electrical engineers and related fields of study, it's just so kooky sounding that it usually isn't talked about.
Any semiconductor engineer will admit in private that you can crash a physical circuit by being around the manufacturing with a bad attitude.
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>>41167770
More like a holodeck than a simulation
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>>41167957
this anon gets it. God Bless.
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>>41170964
From Neville Goddard:

The Oneness Of God

> “HEAR, O Israel: the Lord our god is one Lord.”

Hear, O Israel: Hear, O man made of the very substance of God: You and God are one and undivided! Man, the world and all within it are conditioned states of the unconditioned one, God. You are this one; you are God conditioned as man. All that you believe God to be, you are; but you will never know this to be true until you stop claiming it of another, and recognize this seeming other to be yourself. God and man, spirit and matter, the formless and the formed, the creator and the creation, the cause and the effect, your Father and you are one. This one, in whom all conditioned states live and move and have their being,is your | AM, your unconditioned consciousness. Unconditioned consciousness is God, the one and only reality. By unconditioned consciousness is meant a sense of awareness; a sense of knowing that | AM apart from knowing who | AM; the consciousness of being, divorced from that which | am conscious of being. | AM aware of being man, but | need not be man to be aware of being. Before | became aware of being someone, I, unconditioned awareness, was aware of being, and this awareness does not depend upon being someone. | AM self-existent, unconditioned consciousness; | became aware of being
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>>41167903
Based.
This triggers the losers.
>glowie
They scream
>HE’S A GLOWIE
But in the end he was just telling the truth. Those that try to silence him? The actual anons that act as glowies. But they don’t even get paid.
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I mean who the fuck doesn't have this opinion who hasn't put any thought into this? You really have to be a literal bot to not think the human subjective experience isn't something ''greater''. I Thought of this stuff when I was 14 years old, wondering why the hell I am here, and I'm not religious either.
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>>41176750
You are not a smart man tho.
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>>41167770
It's not the one or the other.
It's both.
Energy from within, energy from without.
There's input and output from both sources too.
My thoughts from within influence YouTube algorithms all the time, it's near instant and it's every day.
But sometimes info comes from outside. Someone else says a thing and a video about it pops up there within an hour.
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>>41177016
Have you ever considered that YouTube has a sophisticated algorithm that has learnt from you and you didn’t influence anything.
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>>41177047
I did.
Then I deviated from the algorithm and thought things it doesn't know about.
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>>41168181
>our quantum fields are as infinite as the universe is
Trust me, there are a lot of players in the way for you to experience anything universal/multiversal. Some people say we live in a simulation, I'd say we live in manipulation.

>>41167957
This. There is no such thing as human telepathy for example. Paralocal consciousness is a thing however and it can resemble telepathy, but the main takeaway from that is that we as humans are not in control of it. Otherwise you could go for one of those organisations that give you a million if you can prove something paranormal.
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>>41177096
Yet it then knew about them?
Sounds like you didn’t deviate at all,
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>>41177158
I have several accounts on youtube on several devices with separate IP addresses, which get used for different topics.
The recommended feeds are completely different on all of them.
Despite that, a thought will put the same new topic / idea on all of them.
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>>41175264
Most people are not aware that consciousness exists, they act purely on instinct, like animals.
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>>41177166
NTA but sometimes a thought from outside the network can have a quantum ripple effect in the network, affecting the algorithm recommendations. It already happened to me, which points the algorithm might be running in a quantum computer. This might happen even with the computer turned off, although I didn't try it.
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>>41177166
This one my guy. Go on!! Moar Deets!! it's true...
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>>41167770
Nice bullshit argument on authority.
You really want people to believe your narrative for some reason.
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>>41179998
Did on purpose so that you could freak out, glowie.
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>>41167770
What happens during sleep? Why do we lose consciousness?
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>>41167903
Not retarded at all. The grug take is, if a radio wave is a thing, what other things can't we see? Doesn't mean there's a teacup orbiting the sun, but looking into it is useful.

We as monkeys have had society 4000ish years. We have had electricity for 120ish. We have had automobiles for like 110 years. It's not unwise to be generally agnostic about metaphysics.
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>>41167957
Mr. Believer Anon...will I be pleased after I die? I'm so afraid there's nothing or malicious forced reincarnation. :(
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>>41177166
>Despite that, a thought will put the same new topic / idea on all of them.
Google promotes what they want to promote, along with what it thinks is like what you like.
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>>41168181
Your second part was actually so highbrow I have a problem parsing it. Game recognize game.

I don't have a way to put it into proper terms, but I always thought circles/pi represent how it could even be possible for infinity to be a thing if this world is so obviously finite in physical terms. While this is assuming a more spiritual model of existence, here it goes. If existence exists in the first place it would be boundless/infinite by nature because for it to spring about anway means that it is the All. People talk about how on the "other side" we are soooo much more and this is facilitated by being more of a spiritual energy thing rather than a physical monkey on a rock. My thing about circles? You can imagine this reality as a circle on a infinite piece of paper, carved out of it. While the circle will technically have a defined space, how can you carve a finite piece out of infinity? You can't make the carved out circle actually finite, you have to muddy it for the illusion of being finite. The "circle," the bounds of it, are actually noticeable if you go looking for it and you can see the "bounds" of this reality. This is highlighted how pi (as I've heard it) never actually ends. How if you take a ruler you can just keep halving your measurement forever. It is technically a measurement at all times but it just goes forever.

I know this was all a schizo ramble but I feel like Terry Davis with my circle theory. I "feel" it.
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>>41170313
Based /x/ Chad. This is the kind of /x/ poster to rape a spacetraveling aylmao until they end up liking it.
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Okay? isn't this like spirituality 101?
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>>41170847
To talk about this and just spitball, it's entirely possible "snapping" in and out is a thing. Humans used to be monkeys until a true level of complexity was achieved and we gained, essentially, souls. It's a dualist explanation of how rocks become single celled organisms. For a soul to incarnate in an existence such as ours it had to wait for random rolls of the dice for a neural network to form. And death, snapping out, is achieved and not scary because our bodies are vessels. We are locked in for whatever reason.
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>>41182575
I came at this conclusion because Faggin voiced something I already knew, but could not find proper words for it.
His voice saying "is in the field" echoed in my mind for some days, and I was thinking where dasein could fit into it. The sensation of dasein is something I can feel walking alone on the streets, but if the field cant be located in time, it can only be outside of it. And outside of time there is only infinity.
What brings dasein, then, is the interface. So if we see the physical body as a interface, pieces start falling into place. All of a sudden I had this feeling we dont actually die, we just change interfaces.
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>>41175264
As an agnostic you are coping more than the article. I think it's "possible" NDEs are real and we're all here playing a video game, but we don't want to assume that.
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>>41177047
>>41177016
Personally guys I have, like once or twice, thought of a video I wanted to rewatch and it got recommended to me and I didn't type about it or talk about it. Personally I think it's possible (((they))) have mass mind reading fields to do stuff like that and are testing it. Don't go assuming it's true like a schizo, but it's okay to investigate.
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>>41182627
A soul is just born from a acausal source, as it divides itself over and over again. Existence is only possible through duality: without the indefinite dyad, the monad turns to zero and becomes nothingness. So for existence to exist, it needs to divide itself to infinity, each division becoming a new monad, which will have its own opposite. This means the acausal source is constantly dividing itself and generating new fields, each of these not being located in time and space, but having a expression in the planes below. When it reaches the physical plane, it have what we call a "incarnation". But this only happens once. When the physical body dies, we are left with the other bodies, from the upper planes. So we change interfaces.
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>>41177000
Yeah probably and I never claimed to be, but there is no way on this gods green earth that a person with even the slightest pit of intuition can't come to the conclusion that this subjective experience that we as humans have doesn't make any sense. Why was I put on this earth at this point?
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>>41167770
The external world is Mind-only. Being free from discrimination is a very high attainment. This sounds juvenile but MLK popularized "discrimination" as a moral failing, and that could be considered peak Enlightenment. Free of white/black and one/other is initiation into the path of non-duality. I'm saying it but I can hardly believe it

The world isn't a computer simulation because then there would have to be a real world that is being simulated. The computer metaphor is apt for now, just like Freud used hydraulic pipes to explain the Mind. When we are done with computers the metaphor will just fade away.

Being/non-Being is a bland duality. Free of life there is no death. The Tathagata goes beyond mere existence or non-existence and the Dharmata is thus-like.

Sorry I'm not reading the OP infohazard but I wanted to present Yogacara. Actually the Lankavatara Sutra, and Zen practitioners were initially called Lankavatara Masters as the Lankavatara Sutra was passed down from the First Patriarch Bodhidharma, disparages all philosophy.

Basically the Buddha-Wisdom is beyond conceptual understanding, and philosophers are bound by concepts. There could be beings in "other worlds" who use hand gestures or scents to preach the Dharma, and language is purely incidental.

It's kind of like that meme (pic related) about projecting metaphysics from the invention of books and computers. Wow, Jesus, you're the word! Good job! We leave behind the "hack."

So you're welcome to say KOS-MOS is a computer, or that Jesus is the word, but we just do Yogacara (world is a symmetric projection of mind), and say who cares about metaphysics.

Every evil is a projection, it's like that in the Bardo too. It's just what you perceive. Try to perceive beyond this/that. The Dharmata is thus-like!
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>>41182919
Tldr that KOS-MOS is a computer seems like something you discovered in virtue of technological progress, but in actuality it's more like a Mythos, as the external world is a projection of the Mind. This is the mirror-like Wisdom. You could ride that out all the way to Enlightenment, but it's one of the more difficult paths as the Yogacara of Lankavatara is difficult to Master. Just think about how it's contingent when we say that the Universe is a computer, and consider why we are tempted to believe our own projections are True Reality (Dharmadatu). Actually the Dharmadatu doesn't really exist, you can see this from the paradox of the heap. The most we can say is "Dharmata is thus-like" but Dharmata/thus-like are merely our most veridical words, not True Reality. This whole thing just indicates the limits of language
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>>41182778
>Why was I put on this earth at this point?
There are different ways to look at it. Here is a different one from your conclusion.
You are simply part of a numbers game in nature.
There are a massive number of ants, bees, birds and whatever because nature plays that game. The genes keep going. The individual doesn’t.
You are not a special unique snowflake. You don’t have a special purpose. You just have an individual personality because of a bigger and more powerful brain than (some) other creatures.
This does not mean that you are anything beyond your physical body. Nature sure doesn’t care if you die. Plenty of others to take your place.
That is a way to look at it. Your conclusion is not the only option that intuition can come up with.
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>>41182919
>>41182947
Pretty nice anon Namo Buddhaya peace to you and everyone
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>>41168081
Both. I think they are just low wage shills to create the illusion of consensus or opposition. Or inversely to crack consensus and drive wedges. NPC sheep herders if you will. In exchange they forfeit their essence, their soul.
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>>41167770
Your Body is your Conciousnesses physical format (how your conciousness is manifested in Physical Spacial Dimensions).
The "human body" is the standard "main physical format model" of conciousness overall.
Not all type of conciousness in Human format is "first person percievers of reality" btw; some are "imps" etc (a lot of government etc works on "spiritual Minion type intellect; that's physically manifest as "human body type models").

ie loads of different types of conciousness uses "human body type" as "main body type model to traverse physical reality".
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>>41183557
Death of your physical body is not the end of conciousness btw; it's just the "end of your current body through Hardware damages"; you then reincarnate etc.
Kirk who was recently killed is hanging out a lot as a Ghost nowadays btw; who you can communicate with about being a dead guy (try summoning him to your daily life and he can speak through you); he's experimenting a lot with being a "Ghost" after hanging out with God and learning more about "conciousness after death of the current body";
he's having fun communicating with others through Ghost intellect; call him in to your daily life.
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>>41183557
I would say bodies are interfaces which interact with a given space. The dasein, which Faggin called "qualia", is the situation in which the interface is at a given moment.



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