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What other reason is there for it to exist? Why not just destroy sinners?
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>>41168825
god likes to watch
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>>41168825
“Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?” (Ezekiel 33:11)

“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.” (2 Peter 3:9)
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>>41168825
not only he's not destroying evil, he's letting satan to rule over the earth right now. his favorite game is to watch who will stay loyal to him and who's not.
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>>41168825
Anon, you have to stop asking questions and applying moral reasoning when christians and their god don't care about morality, just power.
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>>41168825
There's no such thing as hell, it's an empty threat designed to scare children into not misbehaving (unfortunately there are many adults who never got the memo and still sincerely believe it's a real thing, I can only assume they still believe in Santa Claus too)
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>>41168832
Sometimes the bible reads as all-forgiving, then reads also as very punishing and unforgiving for many
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>>41168825
If the bible is true then hell exists and it's forever.
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>>41168851
what a faggot god
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>>41168908
Santa claus is a real, unironic, nonmetaphorical spirit
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according to christcucks, you have to believe that jesus exists and saved us from our sins and that's it. nobody said anything about liking jesus, you basically have to accept terms of service and you're spared hell

fuck u jesus, I believe in u
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>>41168908
>>41169454
Case in point
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>>41169446
Hell is ill defined in the Bible
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>>41169461
“If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maran-atha.” (1 Corinthians 16:22)
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>>41169511
>post-Jesus scripture and opinions
not canon, I only consider canon what Jesus said, not some faggot corinthian
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>>41168825
The truth is that every sinner is haunted by their sins until their death, and that is hell, because deep down inside, sinners know what they really deserve and thus create their own afterlife, just like every consciousness. In the afterlife of sinners, they must atone for their deeds. Only those who leave the house of death with a pure heart can create an afterlife in which they do not have to atone for anything. Every consciousness knows where it will go. Each one for itself. This knowledge is buried at the deepest point in consciousness. Pure self-denial cannot illuminate this point from the outside if it is completely darkened down there.
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The torture in hell comes from man’s choice to stay separate from God. God respects that choice.
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>>41168825
Hell exists but it's just the cycle of samsara and we're already in it.
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Existence > non existence
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>>41168825
>you can kill, rape and torture as much you want
>but you have to tell me you love me sincerely before you die
>or else I will flay and boil you alive forever
Absolute state of YHWH
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>>41169626
“But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name’s sake.” (Acts 9:15-16)
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>>41168825
Still tangling with the idea of Hell, huh?

You think it's a place to suffer.
Why?

The energy that powers the creation of our Universe comes from mysterious ways, indeed.

Humans need to begin learning the difference, and fast.

Anthropomorphized "evil" is just an intent that you do not understand. There are no such things as absolute morally negative self intents.

If you can't utilize the power in the basement, you should avoid it. For everyone else that understands keeping the lights on, always comes with a cost, remember:

Blue Eisenhower November
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God isn’t involved in hell. That’s the place for man and the devil.
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>>41171192
fuck off asshole
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>>41168825
it's simply all bullshit.

If Christianity were true, then God would be something to vigorously fight against.

Thankfully, Christianity isn't true. And Awareness isn't treated like dirt just for the sake of 'story' or 'lessons'.
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>>41169500
He is sort of right though, saint nicholaus, who is the base for santa was a real person. Its just centuries of story retelling made him into a jolly old man with flying reindeers
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Whodat
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>>41168825
You guys can keep coping by hanging out with the atheists and atheism forums and reddit and be like "smart man is atheist!" you will eventually be unable to deny the truth anymore. And how come most atheists are either homosexual, sex addicts or trannies? What the fuck is that about
I know you find comfort in atheists words about there being no god therefore no hard work on your behalf into changing into a better person is needed, but all you're doing is thinking your emotions reflect reality.
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>let me do bad stuff, hurt others or leave a negative ripple effect on the universe and get away with it
>why wont God just let me do whatever i want then let me escape at the end of it

*sigh*

you have the opportunity to escape, but you wont take it
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Prison planet. Our souls are just here because we aren't fit for the ''Domain''. Don't trust anything, even in your afterlife. Stay vigilant, and avoid deception. I wish I could relay this information to you more clearly but I cannot.
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>>41172182
But YHWH does let you escape at the end of it? If you sincerely believe Jesus Christ is your savior? and the most net positive human on earth would be refused entrance to his Heaven if they don't. Nigga read your own book before saying anything.
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>>41172251
shiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettt

my bad homie
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>>41168825
Yes. Everything there is and isnt, is for the pleasure and Glory of the Highest only
Praised He be
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>>41168825
funny thought

it is outside the scope of our understanding, but it is possible the souls in hell will be smelted down and re-made.
i mean....
how can we prove or disprove any of this?
it is a possible outcome as to why he'd have a hell as opposed to just snuffing the soul out forever.
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>>41172297
the only thing being smelted down is the grooves across your brain
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>>41172297
Well yeah that's obvious.
I find it sad how people like Jehovas witness say God created a place with everlasting flames he throws damned in, but only the flames burn forever, the souls dissapear. What?? I get it god has unlimited energy but why would it even say in the bible the fire stays on forever then?
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>>41168825
Free will and importance of all existence.
A myriad of beings is allowed to exist, to discover themselves, make choices and thus refine themselves, enriching existence and God
The "hell" is not some sort penalty location people are being sent to - after we die, sooner or later we align with certain "level" of so-called "astral dimension" on our own and they reflect our - and of beings similar to us - nature.

So neither it's for pleasure nor sinners should be destroyed. Various religions' simplification of reward and punishment is made because they had to be explained to often very simple, uneducated people who couldn't even imagine existence different than the physical.

In reality it's simply guidelines to cultivate the kind of existence, with deeds, thoughts and kinds of character that the reflection I spoke for will be similarly pleasant - a heaven, where one is and grows unburdened by flaws and desires of living existence (which, especially in the world of limited resources are cause of the evil).
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>>41172182
You didn't address OP's point, he asked what the point of torturing sinners for eternity was when he could just destroy their soul instead, not that sinners shouldn't be punished at all
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>>41174684
God is outside time, so the level and scale at which he does things is "eternal"... e.g "eternal life", or how his purity is so pure, that even one spot or blemish separates you from him. when he declares something its infinite, etc. that's who he is, that's what he is as a God
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>>41174717
oh and also, he deals in binary extremes, as evidenced with heaven and hell. he does things on the binary cusps of extremities. he's extremely good to those he's good too, and extremely severe to those he hates. to not send people to hell would be contrary to his nature
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>>41174717
Ok well maybe he could just not torture people at all if it's going to be eternal no matter what he does? God is explicitly described as having the power to destroy souls so why doesn't he do that instead?

>>41174742
>humans can think in shades of grey but god's nature forces him to think in black and white
If your argument rests on the idea that humans can do something that God can't then it's probably wrong
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>>41174756
listen to this guy, hes supposedly 276 i.q:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlBJnM2JORU

idk if he's a grifter, but his logic checks out
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>>41174777
I'm familiar with that guy, there's a 0% chance his IQ is actually 276, that's basically statistically impossible
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>>41168825
Hell is just a dimension that is "far away" from God. The same way you'd shoo a moth out your window is the way that undesirables are removed from the higher dimensions.
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>>41174742
He is also very patient and forgiving, you have to remember that, too.
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>>41175810
IN FACT! I'd almost argue that He is a little TOO patient and TOO forgiving, but if He were not, I'd already be in hell right now!
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>>41172379
sounds fair and similar to lots of NDEs / DMT breakthroughs and shit, you will your reality around you
if you suck you're gonna have a bad time



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