Oh, magic's real?Give me one spell I can do right now that will prove it to me
>>41193848I can't teach you the autism nesersary to do it anon. otherwise I would.
>>41193848Go look in the mirror and into your own eyes and say “I am loved” and repeat it until you can say it with 100% true meaning and intent
>>41193848count past 1 and write all it down, too.>arithmagik
>>41193848hold your breath for an hour
>>41193848>Find Back Stick>Real Bad, not one you think is neat>Poop on stick>Cut hand over stick>Bleed on Stick>Take shit and blood smeared stick>Throw it in the window of your foeThis spells causes them to have a bad day, because careful of rebound. Moreso when pooping. Enjoy.
wherever you go, there you are
>>41193848OK!The Attitude Adjustment:"Return to Sender'Address Unknown,No Such Number,No such Zone!"Sit in a comfortable chair. do an LBRP if you want. Read Psalm 23 and accept the gifts of Table, Cup, and Oil, and ask for Sword and Staff. See Sword cut a circle around you on the floor. Close your eyes, bring your attention to your entire body, and Feel it tingle. This is your Neural Body Sense. Bring your attention to your feet and See and Feel roots growing down into the Earth and Positive Earth Energy rising up from them to your ankles. See the chakra at the base of your spine, the sexual chakra, open like a flower or a whorl, and use it to draw Energy to it. See it rise to your lower waist, your waist, then to your heart; See the center of your hands as chakras, See the energy rise from your hands into your arms, and rise to your throat, then to the middle of your forehead. See the energy rise to the top of your head, watch it spill over outside like a fountain, and See it return to your feet and flow up from your feet again several times while drawing in more energy from the Root. See it form a barrier, an *outwards-facing* 2-way mirror, surrounding you. See and pick up a bronze dagger and Feel its weight. Locate the astral cords that represent the unwanted soul attachments, etc. It's probably close to your heart chakra. There's one primary "Silver" Cord you may See, ** Do. Not. Cut. It.!! ** See your heartstrings then look for those that don't belong. and if there's a hook then remove it with the blade, then cut the cord, See it fall away and disintegrate. See it heal. You can keep the mirror barrier or let it all drain back to the Earth. Close each chakra in turn starting with the top of your head. Put your Gifts and the dagger on Table for later use. Say "So mote it be!" or a nice ending! Slow down, you move too fast This is like meditation! Add stuff like breath control, etc. "See" means Visualize. o physical tools needed.
>>41193848Try sitting still for an hour or so and don't fall asleep. Meditation, bro, is real magic. You will see, hear and think magic.
>>41193848"Using my (percieved) free will, I abandon and offer my interior agency to you, oh Almighty, as though on a silver platter. Do what thou wilt with me, oh LORD/Isvara. I surrender to the uncontestable Will of God..."~USE EXTREME CAUTION~
>>41193848Stand in the middle of a busy intersection, spin counter clockwise in place shouting "Wololo" without stopping, and eventually you'll be spirited away to a place of free food and shelter. It'll save you big on living expenses if you don't right.
>>41193848Tell me how I can perform a back flip right now while I have never trained. You can't? Then my conclusion is that gymnastics doesn't exist.
>>41193848Magic isn't real. Don't worry, you're just going to get a bunch of bullshit posts.
>>41195040There is video proof of people being able to do backflips.Wonder why there isn't video proof of people doing genuine magic? Weird.
>>41193848Alright. Cut this shape out and place it on a parallel mirror. Explain to me how it works.https://youtu.be/ddGeehKRYgU
>>41193848open the Goetia to a random page, tear out the first sigil you see and burn it
>>41195693It's not burning. Wtf?!
>>41194884LOL depending on where you live you might be sent to a place where you'll be raped.
>>41194884/thread
>>41193892I did this because my therapist told me to and it unironically gave me a Tulpa for like a year
>>41193848why is your opinion valuable enough to change? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8OWkTXu5a0
>>41193848Hi. Imagine what it would be like to lick any object you can see (the texture, not the taste). If you do it right you should feel some phantom sensation in your tongue that will be entirely accurate as to what it would feel like to lick something.Not sure why humans have precognition specifically related to what things would feel like if we licked them, but it is what it is.
>>41194199just sitting there or i should think of something specific or a specific meditation technique?
>>41193848You've been spelling since you started writing.
sit in your bathtub in the dark, stick your finger up your ass and count to ten an beelzebub shall appear and brutally rape you (:
breathe in deeply and think to yourself, “as i breathe out, i become more and more relaxed.” breathe out. the effects are quick and powerful.my sekrit cabal has guided people through surgeries without anesthesia, become invisible before others, and even caused memories to fade. real magicks!!be afraid! do you really want what you say you want or is it our magicks
>>41198412Sitting there and allowing your thoughts to appear and disappear on their own. Not forcing them, not focusing on them too much.But you can use a specific meditation technique if you want, like focusing on your breathing.
>>41193892That's just a self fulfilling prophecy
>>41197933Very cool
Really weird no one on this paranormal board can show video proof of them doing magic. Weird.So weird.
>>41202672magic is not what you think it is
>>41203195Lol.So magic doesn't affect anything physical in this world?
It is pointless to discuss real magic with people who will only be convinced by a kamehameha, a magic missiles, or some other retarded concoction of fiction.
>>41203220And this is my point. They can't even agree on what "magic" actually is. They have no proof of it and just dodge every request to prove it. This only proves my point. What do you get out of being a dishonest LARPing faggot?
>>41202672>observer effect Look it up retard
>>41203251>look it up>Refuses to link because they know it's bullshitWhat's so hard with presenting it here? Is it because you can't find proof of whatever the fuck you're LARPing about?
>>41203251>observer effectAin't no way you just tried to use science to prove magic when it has nothing to do with magic and is tested and tangible. It's like you're intentionally trying to be retarded. Why are you fucking stupid?
>>41203277>Can't use google>Thinks that makes him look smart>What's so hard with presenting it here?Asks a stupid question that could be answered in 5 minutes if he could use Google.
Play jacks game,You will know forever.
>>41203311Dunning Krueger at its finest.You're actually a retard the observer effect has nothing to do with magic I didn't need to look it up as I have a background in physics and am not some random schizo retard like you. Being called a retard by you means absolutely nothing. Lmfao anywaysWho else is next? We got quantum magic retard out of the way, next?
>>41203330>background in physicsRefuses to link it because he knows it's bullshit>Being called a retard by you means absolutely nothing. Lmfao anywaysMeans so little that the retard had to mention it.
>>41203300If science itself admits the observer changes what is observed, then you’ve already stepped into magic. The difference is that science measures it, while magic uses it.
>>41203373Define what you think the observer is.>>41203346Rent free, huh?
>Still no magical proof posted.
>>41203546It's not that --- you don't aim.
>>41203599Show us how it's done, great wizard
>>41203451>Define what you think the observer is.You can argue that a camera is an observer, but the ultimate and final observer is you, Anon.If you change that, you change your world >>41193892
>>41203451>Rent free, huh?You lost. It is over for you
>>41203742Nah an observer is a physical system that can interact with a quantum system altering it's state from an undefined superposition to a defined one. This does not need a physical person present just interaction. It's not a real subjective experience of observation.
>>41204300>Nah an observer is a physical system that can interact with a quantum system altering it's state from an undefined superposition to a defined one. This does not need a physical person present just interaction. It's not a real subjective experience of observation.Nice way to not address the point faggot.
two midwits attempting to out lolcow each other
>>41204457I'm the Scitzo midwit, so by definition that makes me better
>>41203742There is no "ultimate observer." The technical term "observer" in quantum mechanics essentially means "recorder of interaction."You throw a baseball at a wall.The wall "records the interaction."Go to rehab, junkie.
>>41204536>The wall "records the interaction."meds
>>41204558The record of the interaction is called a hole.
>>41202672I did magic on ur mom's pussy last night, it's on Pornhub if you want to see it (you should know what to search for by now)
>>41204536>There is no "ultimate observer."The focus on "observer" as a mere "recorder of interaction" is scientific jargon, missing the point. While quantum mechanics defines observation as an interaction. Example being baseball hitting a wall, doesn't negate the fact that consciousness plays a unique role in shaping perceived reality.
>>41204702This. Your mind has power but QM isn’t the mechanism.
>>41194189>OK!>The Attitude Adjustment:>"Return to Sender'>Address Unknown,>No Such Number,>No such Zone!">Sit in a comfortable chair. do an LBRP if you want. Read Psalm 23 and accept the gifts of Table, Cup, and Oil, and ask for Sword and Staff. See Sword cut a circle around you on the floor. Close your eyes, bring your attention to your entire body, and Feel it tingle. This is your Neural Body Sense. Bring your attention to your feet and See and Feel roots growing down into the Earth and Positive Earth Energy rising up from them to your ankles. See the chakra at the base of your spine, the sexual chakra, open like a flower or a whorl, and use it to draw Energy to it. See it rise to your lower waist, your waist, then to your heart; See the center of your hands as chakras, See the energy rise from your hands into your arms, and rise to your throat, then to the middle of your forehead. See the energy rise to the top of your head, watch it spill over outside like a fountain, and See it return to your feet and flow up from your feet again several times while drawing in more energy from the Root. See it form a barrier, an *outwards-facing* 2-way mirror, surrounding you. See and pick up a bronze dagger and Feel its weight. Locate the astral cords that represent the unwanted soul attachments, etc. It's probably close to your heart chakra. There's one primary "Silver" Cord you may See, ** Do. Not. Cut. It.!! ** See your heartstrings then look for those that don't belong. and if there's a hook then remove it with the blade, then cut the cord, See it fall away and disintegrate. See it heal. You can keep the mirror barrier or let it all drain back to the Earth. Close each chakra in turn starting with the top of your head. Put your Gifts and the dagger on Table for later use. Say "So mote it be!" or a nice ending!>Slow down, you move too fast>This is like meditation! Add stuff like breath control, etc.>"See" means Visualize. o physical tools needed.Gay.
>magic is real>real magic is pic relatedHard Magic Universe which filters out every retard that can't into math
With careful consideration, and proper spelling of each word; one may assert their own will upon reality as they perceive it.If you truly understand each word as I have written; then you may bend this idea of reality to your own will. This is true only until you meet another such as we.Life is just a dream, you know...
>>41206594Just the dream we share.Like a nightmare.
>>41206607Oops
>>41206619How does a devil forget his own name fag code?
>>41206623Guess it doesn't really matter.Good luckHave fun(:
>>41203330You shouldn't throw stones if you arent ready for the consequences.
>>41206634Cutie pie with clammy fingers and spaghetti flying out of his pockets. How many sodas have you consumed today, wise wizard?
>>41195040
>>41193918I'm tingling..
>>41204913So you didn't do it? Good, you can now be totally ignored. You're not even a Wannabe!
>>41203208not a practitioner but from what I've gathered, levitating things or causing spontaneous combustions and shit is just Hollywood magic, while the real thing is making some sort of pact with a spiritual entity to cause some effect that's external but not so immediate nor as cartoonish as levitation or pyrokinesis or whatever. essentially casting a spell for love, good fortune, some aspect of character, etc. rather than what you see in Harry potter
>>41200347>casting a prophecy that causes itself to be fulfilled like the Phythia >definitely not magic
>>41193848Ok.C-A-TYou are now thinking of a cat.>rekt git gud scrub gg no re
Try to aid in the increase of my occult powers in exchange for more of your own; better intuition, greater wisdom, greater intelligence are some favorites.Do it for more than a few seconds and you'll feel like your brain is growing, that's because it will just barely to make it come true. Keep doing it and it'll keep feeling that way. The feeling will be a lot more dramatic than the amount of growth so you notice it for sure.
>>41195693What will that do?
>>41193848What makes you think your monkey ass could cast a spell?
>>41204452I'm sorry what was the point? Your misunderstanding of what the observer effect is because you want it to be faggot little fairy magic so badly?How about you prove magic exists instead of dodging? Are you going to cry because you have nothing?
>>41204666Sure. Where's that magic at, bud?>>41204702Interaction happens regardless of a conscious person being there to physically and literally observe it. Why are you retarded how does this prove magic exists?>>41206670Cast a spell on my hairy balls please. Make them un-hairy and I just might believe you.>>41206779So magic isn't real because it can't do anything extraordinary? What is the practical application of something like that?
>>41204457>I'm afraid to interact on this anonymous imageboard because my ego is incredibly fragile and I don't want to be outed as a retard. The sheer embarrassment from such a situation will guarantee I cry into my pillow for weeks.You could've just said that, anon. Don't be afraid.
Why would I tell you? lmaoThe secret is keeping secret.
>Still no proof of magic.It's almost like.It.Doesn't.Exist.Weird.
>>41208234Suuuuure bud. Suuuuure.
>>41208222I mean dont spout nonsense bullshit. You know just as much about this world as the worms in my garden. And advice. This really is for all of you. Whatever you do tend to believe in, if you want others to follow, make sure you can back it up. None of you will catch the irony there but...
>>41208222>Sure. Where's that magic at, bud?You'll find out in about nine months
>>41208263Nice projection, moron.You want me to back up quantum mechanics? There are plenty of papers available online. I refuse to link them because you dishonest faggots are just going to ignore it in favor of your own beliefs because it directly contradicts the bullshit being pushed here.Just look at the coward saying "a hurr I know majik I'm just no gonna sho u!" Like the slobbering retard he is. What does he contribute? Your point is fucking retarded because it's the same point this thread is based off of and what I have been pushing this entire time lmfao. I want proof, you faggots have yet to present it ergo magic is no real. This is not hard to understand. Project more of your low IQ insecurities onto me please. This is entertaining.
>>41208280Science is theory is a universal truth that's lost on you.
>>41208222>Interaction happens regardless of a conscious person being there to physically and literally observe it.Delayed-choice quantum eraser.You do need a coinsius observer, Anon.>Why are you retarded how does this prove magic exists?When you understand that your consciousness is needed to create the world and is actively forming it. You can begin to grasp what is meant by magic.
>>41194553This is true for 99.99% of people, but there are some of us who have defied the plan and are cursed for it.
>>41208472See, a dishonest faggot who has no idea what a theory is but uses his lack of understanding for the base of an argument. Retarded creationists do this. >>41208870So more dishonest bullshit. Please link me the studies that confirm this.
>>41208915Oh, it's a science worshipper. Lmfao. He needs a study to get out of bed in the morning.
>>41206284This, magic is imposing your will onto reality and shooting someone with a gun is certainly a way to accomplish thatThe truth is, OP, everyone (yes, even you) does magic all the time without even being aware of it, if you want proof of its existence try looking beyond the end of your own noseYou won't do that, though, because you're not actually interested in knowing whether magic exists or not, you're just interested in having arguments with anonymous online strangers where you can show off your obviously superior knowledge to nobody in particular (why do that on 4chan, of all places? At least on Reddit you can farm karma from smug internet atheists for repeating all their talking points, but there's literally no point in doing that when no-one will even remember that this thread existed 24 hours after it 404s)If you want a real magic spell you can try out yourself with immediate results, try looking at another person and realising that they're their own being, separate from yours, with their own thoughts, feelings and emotions, but that might be a little too overwhelming for youCaptcha: W0WDM (God is saying "WOW" and asking me to DM him to discuss things further)
>>41208929>Science worshipperYour opinion was already discarded but Jesus man you have nothing but creationist talking points. It's so pathetic the only way you can interpret dissenting opinions is by making up an enemy.So anyways where's those magic spells at? Where's the proof?
>>41208915>dishonest bullshit. Please link me the studiesYou are funny. The only dishonest thing here is you not being able to use Google. If you are interested, look it up yourself. I'm not your dad.You are a grown man, look it up yourself, think for yourself, or don't faggot.
>>41208949>Claims those who criticize his beliefs are religious zealots>Requires texts from those in his faith in order to believe in somethingLmfao
>>41208949What does science worship?Actually listening.Observing reality and trying to to hear its voices instead of shouting over it with God, God, God.
>>41208931Define magic, anonIf everything is magic it's a useless term
>>41209061Don't bother.He doesn't have a coherent belief system, just vibes and memes.If he laid out everything he believed you'd see you're dealing with a schizo junkie.
>>41208931>Captcha: W0WDM (God is saying "WOW" and asking me to DM him to discuss things further)I want to feel sorry for you schizos but every time the reason for your delusions is shown to obviously be to feel like you're supremely important for the narcissistic emotional high it gives.
>>41193848How's the weather in Eglin?
>>41209061I already said that it's imposing your will on reality, which you're doing right now by posting on the internet to implant ideas in the heads of people reading what you postPretty mundane, huh? But maybe "magic" and "mundane" weren't so separate after all>>41209088I know sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internet but it you really couldn't tell that was a joke you might actually be autistic
>>41209088>I want to feel sorry for you schizos but every time the reason for your delusions is shown to obviously be to feel like you're supremely important for the narcissistic emotional high it gives.
>>41209102>I know sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internet but it you really couldn't tell that was a joke you might actually be autisticParody and sarcasm on the internet is dead. There are no more statements that are "obviously disingenuous sarcasm." Most especially here on 4chan.
>>41209102"imposing your will on reality."So doing things?
>dozens of threads in catalog telling you aliens are real>dozens of two weeks christian threads telling you the rapture is coming>dozens of threads about womyn and human relationships being treated as "paranormal">b-b-but magick is not realThat's why I'm in league with Satan. Epstein did nothing wrong.
>>41193848I'm surprised nobody mentioned the ladder experiment.>State with intention, "I will not climb a ladder.">It might even be best to write this down on some paper and then throw away the paper.>Forget about it and go about your normal life, possibly a few days.>When you climb a ladder, the experiment is finished. I haven't met a person that this didn't work for. Naturally doesn't count if you're a carpenter or a chimney sweep or whatever, in that case just pick something equally unlikely like "I will not throw a baseball."When this happens you will realize your initial assumptions about the underlying architecture of the world are less solid than previously believed. That's when a real education can start.
Impose your willy on reality.Rape the universe!I am very spiritual.
>>41208949People dont shares things with you because youre a literal asshole. Be more kind.
>>41209130Yeah, basically, do you have a better definition?You know what, OP, my first post ITT was this one >>41204666, it's about all I thought this thread deserved and it should've been my only one, reallySo if you really want a real, actual magic spell that will really, honestly work, then try "fetus deletus" on your mother>>41209149I have successfully performed magic by making you seethe about my definition of magic over the internet
>>41209149Yes. Good to see you agree with us. Spirituality is a male thing, and as such, is based on the imposition of the will upon reality. Such is the definition of magic and magical reality. Anything else is cope from old ladies and veggie faggots. Just dont expect the golem to understand it.
I sometimes forget how evil some of the x dwellers are. But then I get reminded :(I am not saying you need jesus but you need jesus.
>>41208243I see what you are doing here :D
>>41209142You are less solid than you believe.Point a pencil or knife close to the center of your forehead. You want to create the anticipation of it touching, the feeling of "this is sharp and will feel intense if it touches." If this doesn't work try experimenting with looking at yourself pointing the object at your forehead in a mirror, or have someone else hold the object.You should feel a phantom tingling on your forehead.This is a self-induced tactile hallucination, and inducing and manipulating them is the truth behind "subtle energy" "chi" and "Kundalini."It works by creating a feedback loop between imagined anticipation and perception that creates the slightest phantom perception, which strengthens the anticipation, and thus the phantom perception. The stronger the concentration, the stronger the sensation because the tighter the feedback loop.This mechanism works for any perception, not just tactile sensation. One can create and manipulate visual hallucinations, feeling of temperature, motion and acceleration as if on a rollercoaster, even emotions (such as cosmic awe and spiritual connectedness or God's Love.) The ultimate of this is inducing an all-sense immersive hallucination or "waking dream" state called astral travel.So many beliefs and religions are based on nothing more than using self-induced hallucinations to reinforce delusions.
>>41209190Your spirituality isn't male or female, it is nothing more than the spirituality of an all-devouring hole.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=941AurZcQiA
>>41209213Yes but then people start to learn things they shouldn't be able know with those hallucinations. Divination is exists. Even governments use this.For me divination is the proof and its a gateway drug.
>>41209218>everything is relative>the spirit is androgynous>everybody is equal before god>only jewish mysticism is valid>to make profit from trading is wrong, you should wage like a slave>we want your creative content for free, and will use the algo to censor your fundraiser
>>41209233>Implying governments are intellectually competent.
>>41209213I don't know, I feel like it's pretty hard to hallucinate the experience of climbing a ladder compared to a small feeling on your skin but that's just me
>>41209239Nope but they usually don't keep a project fifty plus years if doesn't work. There are still hubs to teach this stuff.
>>41209236Exposed with the true nature of your brain rot, you seek to distract by making a straw man.You aren't very good at this whole "imposing your will" thing.
>>41193848Breathe air into your stomach
>>41209245>they usually don't keep a project fifty plus years if doesn't work. We're done talking because there's just no way I can take you seriously anymore.
>>41209249I just described your zeitgeist. Looks like it fit you well, given your response to it. Spirituality have gender, because you have the anima as the opposite sex inside the same field (or animus if you are gay). But I can't expect a foid golem to understand it. You are just empty vessels to outside forces.
>>41209261I will let you enjoy your bliss. But first, I want to rant more It isn't only used by governments,Ask yourself what those jews doing in the tunnels in the underground of new york. Ask yourself what those people who perform rituals for baal and such, gain from it. Ask yourself why those people put drastic efforts to eat literal people and children. These informations easily available to the public. Its your choice to look.
>>41209270MY "zietgeist?"I didn't say anything about my beliefs.You set up this ridiculous false dichotomy and assumed that I must be one or the other.But then again that's the nature of the Warmonger mentality: it's always us vs. them.
>>41209102Why make the the distinction to begin with then, with magic I mean, if it's literally mudane and ordinary.
>>41209287And there's the pipeline to /pol/ insanity.Every time.
>>41209294I wish you were right about me speaking insanity. :(
>>41209293I don't know, why don't you ask the guy who decided they were separate things in the first place? "Magic" is a pretty useless term, honestly, everyone seems to have their own different definition of it and if no-one can agree on what a word means then it basically has no meaning
>>41194189I never could visualize anything. For years I thought people were making shit up when they said they were visualizing things but now I realize I have aphantasia. I've been working on fixing it but it's a very slow process. I do a lot of meditation now and occasionally get various colors or the flashing of an image. I can make myself hear and feel things no problem though, so I can go into meditation very quickly. Any tips on visualization would be appreciated.
>>41209322I recommend semen retention for those incels with aphantasia. But real retention, not counting the days with nofap which is /pol/ level of crap. It should be a complete retreat into the dry path, a monk life with meditation and a humble behaviour towards reality. But for those with hyperphantasia, creating tulpas is the way to go. They are really helpful, and can channel stuff you would not be able to do alone, expressing the wet path in all its sensuous beauty. They also help with mental illness, much more than a psiquiatrist would do. These are the only paths I recognize. And you dont choose them, they choose you.
>>41209301What is true is that our leaders and rulers are delusional as fuck. You need to be to justify hoarding the wealth of hundreds of thousands of lifetimes of people for yourself. The delusions are always unhinged and evil. But there is not one over-arching delusion that they share, nor is there a global conspiracy of the kind you imagine.Israel and Judaism does not rule America. The Republican party and American Christian fascism does. They are working with Israel, a genocidal and authoritarian state, for mutual benefit. There is some element of a shared spiritual narrative because these apocalyptic Christian cultists think that Israel has a crucial role to play with the end times, and they see the end times as being right now and their responsibility to help it unfold.The only thing that governments are good at is conditioning people to tolerate them - that is weaponizing delusion for political power.
>>41209370Christianity cant survive without a endtimes narrative. They speed it up, then when it reaches a point close to complete destruction, they halt it and things go back to normalcy. This constant tension keeps the cattle believing the narrative, thus consolidating their power, until a totalitarian state is formed.
>>41209380Well yeah it's one big narrative of endless spiritual warfare that encompasses all of reality.Christians won the war, took over the world, and utopia didn't materialize. Satan's minions are still at work! Find them!
Spell "icup" phonetically
>>41209360What about the majority of people who have neither aphantasia nor hyperphantasia but just visualise things normally in their mind's eye?
>>41209399They follow a religion, and vote in politicians.
>>41209370There are many different factions with different magic practices and deities. Context of our coversation is magic and most of them using it. Thats it. And they dont want you to know that to. Those practices they perform in the woods and the dark is not to "condition" you. You don't even know it until you look :D Btw there is no fascism in america. If there was you wouldt let epstein happening.
>>41209410And of course you're evil.
>>41209419Heeey thats my line.
>>41209370Look at the soviets magic/paranormal researches you retard commie boi. Maybe it would make more malleable towards magics and sheeet.
>>41209245>Nope but they usually don't keep a project fifty plus years if doesn't work.This has gotta be the dumbest shit I have ever read on 4chan and I've been here longer than most of you have been alive.
>>41209520Ohhh I don't want to list all. But look at project stargate and the priors of that. And look at how it wen't underground with other leaks.
>>41209432Do you know what governments use "meme magic?"Or rather do you know the government that engineered the "meme magic" meme, cult of Kek, and meme warrior culture in 2016?https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/15/kremlin-papers-appear-to-show-putins-plot-to-put-trump-in-white-house>There are paragraphs on how Russia might insert “media viruses” into American public life, which could become self-sustaining and self-replicating. These would alter mass consciousness, especially in certain groups, it says."Media Virus!" is literally the name of a book written in 1995. Here is a key chapter:https://pastebin.com/4s91qRn6And a key section:>While too conceptual to be of any transformative value to the public at large, this idea goes to the heart of today’s viral efforts, and is certainly understood by those who consider themselves soldiers in the meme wars. Biological viruses are only successful when they are able to turn their host cells into manufacturing plants for more viruses. The virus interpolates its genetic material into the DNA code of the cell, so that the cell will begin reproducing the virus. Eventually the cell divides or explodes, releasing many copies of the infected code. This is how a whole organism can become infected with a single virus; the code has iterated millions of times. The strategy of these Internet viral manifestos is to use the iterative potential of the computer nets to spread memes about viruses housed within units that are themselves viruses. The virus 23 strain even makes reference to chaos math and the predictions of some fractal influenced observers that the world itself will reach a critical mathematical moment of “singularity” near the turn of the millennium. The virus writer exploits a chaotic device—the computer-generated media virus—to spread the conceptual and spiritual implications of chaos mathematics.
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>>41209539Still not convinced?https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/10/dugins-occult-fascism-and-the-hijacking-of-left-anti-imperialism-and-muslim-anti-salafism/>Here a heretofore undiscussed facet of this development will be broached (a guiding feature informing the subtext of Duginism’s ‘beyond left and right’ ideological catchall); and, that is, the Duginist appropriation of a primarily western occultist framework (and specifically the worldview of Chaos magic) and its transformation by the Duginists into a strategy for political action in the service of the Fascist Internationale.The cover of Dugin's infamous book literally has the chaos star on it.Here's a link between Russia, Discordianism and chaos:https://medium.com/@StealThisSingul/operation-mindfuck-was-too-successful-r-u-sirius-interviewed-by-douglas-rushkoff-6607e4edc522>Probably, yeah. If you follow some of the ideological discourse from people who are really influential in Russia, it’s postmodernism and Operation Mindfuck in the service of amoral raw power and political strategy. I know secondhand that there are people in Putin’s mindtrust who have read their Leary and their Discordianism and so forth and they are following a chaos strategy for disrupting the American consensus… or however you want to phrase the collapsing neoliberal order. And not collapsing towards a good end.The Cult of Kek is literally a fascist corruption of Discordianism, a left-vibing hippie "parody" religion about Eris, goddess of chaos. Engineered by Russia according to a mash-up of memetic and occultist theory that is itself a mash-up of memetic and occultist theory.
>>41209539Why do you trying to pull the conversation into social engineering friend? Do you really think we are talking about that "magic"?Will you also bring up cards magic aswell? Dice? We are talking about speaking with literal demons, djins, fairies, peris, old gods. We are talking about literal human sacrifices being done in this day and age. Its not only in west to. Did you ever dig into chinese web mofo? They are doing the same shit but just for their own kind of fucked up gods.
>>41209585I just revealed the social engineering that engineered you right here. And who was behind it.
>>41209591I am not american :D jokes on you. I am from the most nationalist country in the world. Your weakness disgusts me.
>>41208977>n-no uA completely sane and intelligent response anon!>>41209057>What does science worship?What a fucking absolutely brain dead stupid fucking question.>>41209173>S-stop being a meanie ruining my LARP!No, I don't think I will. I will however shut the fuck up and go away the second you provide irrefutable evidence magic exist. Since that has yet to happen I think I'm going to be here a while. Feet up on the coffee table and all.
>>41209620Oh you didn't even read. So you don't even know what I am talking about.
>>41209591>>41209620My real answer :D Thank you for reminding me that Q was a psy op. And trump got backed up by russian glowies. But it wasn't our conversation. When you are a hammer all you see is nails.
>>41209625>>41209630Seriously, have some humility. You won't bring the revelation by being a little bitch and by bringing up irrelavant things into conversations.
>>41209624>What a fucking absolutely brain dead stupid fucking question.What science worship is what scientists worship.What motivates them to become scientists.What motivates them to study nature with endless passion and curiosity.The passion that drives science that makes it as powerful as it is, is the love of natural beauty, and from this love comes the desire for greater communion through understanding. By listening.Just watch this video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWnA4XLrMWAIt is profoundly spiritual, religious, and romantic. Carl Sagan worshiped The Cosmos, and found holy purpose in inspiring others to find cosmic love by seeking to experience and understand its beauty.
>>41209624I didn't say magic exists. All I said was youre a retard for taking tactile feedback and equating it with actual real concrete evidence of something happening. Hallucinations are as real as me doxxing you just so I can Johnny cage you in the nuts 12 times. You have no proof either. All this shit is conjecture. Thats all any of these boards are.
This thread just confirmed to me that this is all bullshit.
>>41208870>When you understand that your consciousness is needed to create the world and is actively forming it. You can begin to grasp what is meant by magic.so you make claims without having been in the realm beyond time and studied intimately until you had a degree in astral engineering? Okay man woah.Fwiw it's still perfectly possible that all your spiritual pheneomena and interactions are generated by machinery operated by chavs.
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>>41209660Great. Make sure your uniform is clean for tomorrow's shift, McWagie
>>41209624>No, I don't think I will. I will however shut the fuck up and go away the second you provide irrefutable evidence magic exist. Since that has yet to happen I think I'm going to be here a while. Feet up on the coffee table and all.You come here at least once a week and make this same thread. >No I don't Yes you do, we all recognize the way you write and your general shitbird attitude. I cannot believe someone's life cluld be so pointless and sad where they insist on coming to the internet wizard forum every fucking week to specifically say how much they don't like or don't believe internet wizards, yet here you are. We give you guides and evidence and things you can try at home and you just reflexively say that you don't find any of it acceptable. Ok we get it, you're like a cool internet skeptic. You're about 15 years behind the ball on that trend, but whatever. You do you. I don't know what to tell you except that if you don't believe any of this works for you, guess what? You're right! It won't work for you AND IT NEVER WILL.
>>41209647I've often thought that Sagan knew more than he was letting on spiritually, he claimed to be agnostic but that doesn't necessarily mean he didn't have spiritual beliefs at all
>>41209399Isn't that most wizard people at least. If I had to guess they are more about presize mental disipline.
>>41209630The conversation you want to talk about is how the governments of the world use magical and occultist techniques and rituals they want to keep hidden. You want to demonstrate that they are real and effective.I actually provided a profound example of this via Russia's chaos occultism and meme magic. It has been spectacularly successful. Catastrophically successful, in fact.The consequences are the same as if the gates of hell were opened and Satan was unleashed. A process of self-maximizing evil has been created that is a death spiral of hatred and delusion, a chain reaction of social division perpetuated by an unstoppable arms race between various agents and teams to manipulate the minds of the world for power and profit.The demon's nature is nothing more than the mindless accumulation of power and control for the sake of power and control:>>41209218It isn't an entity, it is a pattern of mentality and a relational dynamic.This is really just a more detailed way of saying "greed rules everything." and its rule is systematically devouring everything good and turning it into garbage and heat: it is a furnace burning the world.
>>41209660Nice, now go get a girlfriend using science faggot
>>41209652I'm not equating anything as there has yet to be proof to be examined. How are you this stupid?>>41209647Braindead IQ moron doesn't know what Sagan meant and think this has to do with some faggot ass spiritualism and not the literal and testable evidence that we are made up of quarks that is a necessary condition and property of the universe. This has nothing to do with scientists worshipping shit, this is a bullshit creationist argument to discredit academia because it goes against your worldview and dogmatic beliefs. No scientists worships any other scientist you fucking moron. I hate you, kill yourself. >>41209694I'm not OP lmfao I just share the same sentiment as a few people I've seen around calling you faggots out on your LARPing bullshit.
>>41209660You see how upset they get when you hurt their kayfabe? What a bunch of retarded faggots.
>>41209737>Hey babe, you want to meet my demon in mom's basement?
>>41209737You definitely can't magic a girlfriend as I have seen too many threads asking to with no one answering the question.
>>41209765Has it occurred to you that we genuinely do not care what you believe? This isn't some kind of religion where we want members or want to save your soul. If you aren't interested in this, there's literally nothing that we can show you or tell you that would ever make you feel different. If you did believe everything that we said, then that wouldn't matter either because your belief has no bearing whatsoever on what I am experiencing. Call it a LARP if you want, it doesn't make any fucking difference. You want us to prove if magic exists but you aren't even capable of proving your own existence. I could be talking to a chatbot right now. I would probably get more interesting conversation with a Magic 8 Ball or a well trained parrot. Which is probably why you sound like 300 other completely boring and dull bores who have come here before asking the same stupid questions trying to have the same stupid arguments for no fucking reason.
>>41209694Also:Who is we? Is we in the room with you right now? You have no idea who I or the other anons are. I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about, what other threads? You're delusional. First you think magic is real and now you think there is all one singular person calling you out on your bullshit? Lmfao
>>41209803>Wall o'textI'm not reading all of that nonsense you fucking loser. Lmfao.If you don't care why are you here crying to me about it? Stop posting and fuck off back to your LARP thread, I'm sure that's your safe space.
>>41209725Thats just social engineering retard
magic is real but its not casting fireballs and summoning lightningMagic/the supernatural/divination/sorcery/witchcraft or whatever you want to call it. Most of the time it's purely self aligned.In other words, it's going to be really hard to convince other people it exists because it is a solo journey. No two people are going to have the exact same thoughts/ feelings or memory of a situationIt's a solo journey when it comes to tulpas, ghosts, lucid dreams, LSD trips, tarot cards, cryptids, demons, etc etc.That's why it's nearly impossible to have outside witnesses towards magic. Science is peer reviewed, magic is not, you can never pin point it because it's always shifting.There may be insights to the human mind I believe in a lot of "real magic" stories. And there are some innate subjects out there that exist within each of us, like common dreams everyone seems to have like teeth falling out or running away from something. But for the rest of it, it's mostly down to the individual.
>>41209809>>41209825>comes asking questions >doesn't read the answers Checks out. Typical hylic. You're gonna be fine. Just go on reddit or Twitter or whatever it's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things.
>>41209809We as in this thread full of anons you're asking open questions for anyone to answer. You assume too much
>>41209987You're still here.
All of these replies and still no proof of magic.Wild, crazy even.
>>41209957>magic is real No it's not.
>>41209773>>Hey babe, you want to see my magic in wand?>>41209792>You definitely can't magic a girlfriend as I have seen too many threads asking to with no one answering the question.Yes, you can. I did. Sorry for not replying to your threads Anon :(
>>41210031Son, I've likely been here since before you were born. You haven't even arrived yet.
>>41210053>You wanna chant the names of demons while we fugg on the pentagram.>Oh that? That's my penis.>Yes it is that small.
>>41210066>Son, I've likely been here since before you were born. You haven't even arrived yet.You boomers really need to die off.
>>41210066>SonLol, you're so fucking mad. So like are you going to provide proof or are you going to keep crying?
>>41210073>>Yes it is that small.
>>41210103>Oh yes Anon!>Chant!>Chant the name of the demons!>Mom!>Mom! Condoms! I need them!>No you don't honey.
>>41210163>semen retention
>>41210113Damn you freaky. To much porn and no semen retention since you can't basedence yourself a woman or discipline
>>41210184>basedenceBasedence?
>>41210172>>41210184>>41210190Damn 4chan cencoring onions-ence, s-o-y-e-n-c-e lol Basedence
>>41210184>>41210200Meds.
>>41210216Type S-o-y-e-n-c-e or onions--------ence or gayence
>>41210228How about I don't and just assume you're a tard that believes in magic.
>>41210216BasedenceHah did not know that
>>41193848alright op then define "spell". well as a decades long practitioner ill tell you like frieren magic is a world of creativity and energy and both are finite. you only have a set amount of either one just like with the physical.. go run 5 miles everytime you want to cast a spell. so if you gather the most you can muster and do the full ritual you can pull some shit off. but you will pay dearly. nothing is for free. everything is balance. that being said you can have a spellbook of keywords and stored energy that you practice. they will be more effective. because its not about words, or rituals. its energy and creativity. so can i give you a spell that works everyting no matter what? no. thats why james randi wrecks us practitioners, they run out of energy then break down. there is no consistency. thanks for reading my blog.
>>41210242>How about I don't and just assume you're a tard that believes in magic.How about you go do some push ups or talk a woman
>>41210243Woah man,>Bong rip.If you, like, rearrange all the letters around, they form a new pattern, and still mean nothing.>>41210253I don't need magic or pushups to talk to a woman.She would be wondering wtf I'm doing not making eye contact.How about you summon a life?
>>41210269>I don't need magic or pushups to talk to a woman.>She would be wondering wtf I'm doing not making eye contact.This guy is a ladykiller
>>41210269>How about you summon a life?Nuh-uh to busy working out, casting spells and being based
>>41210286It just takes practice.Don't smell like shit, wear underwear, and don't bring retarded friends along and most women will talk to you.
>>41210290>being basedEvery vagina one mile around you just dried up.
>>41210301> According to science Every vagina one mile around you just dried up.
>>41210315>He can't memeAccording to science you're still an obese fag that believes in magic just like Aleister Crowley.
>>41210330>According to science you're still an obese fag that believes in magic just like Aleister Crowley.This obse fag can magic himself a girlfriend
>>41210344So you still don't have one?Jesus Christ Anon, you're larping so hard you don't even know what's real or "magic" anymore.You might actually need meds lol.
>>41210352>So you still don't have one?Whatever helps you sleep at night Anon. Just remember to take care of yourself
>>41210370Btw you can be a fat cunt and still get laid.Trust me.
>>41210387Yes. So promise me to take care of your body Anon. Remember to do those push-ups! Do some daily walks as well, and I promise you will see some magic.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2zfqxOnCFo&list=OLAK5uy_lUfzS-8p-eB8mHiAdbu-hrJ4WUmotQj3A
>>41210411Bitch I have work pushups are not the solution.
>>41210418>Bitch I have work pushups are not the solution.You on 4chan nigge and on X of all places! So don't give me that shit.This is why you don't have magic powers and your life is total shit Anon! At least be honest with yourself,
>>41195074Oops, the FBI agents just removed all photos and video of gymnasts.I guess that means they don't exist and never have!What's that, the FBI just opened up a secret department dedicated to studying gymnastics?What's that, there's declassified documents about the decades of research the FBI did into gymnastics?What's that, police have special instructions given in the event that they encounter and have to disarm a gymnast?Oh well, that's probably nothing, since no one is spoon-feeding me the ability to do gymnastics.Anyway
>>41210437Based
>>41210431Oh please everyone fucks off at work.You really think there's this much shit to do 9 to 5 in an office?Maybe if you're a boomer you buy that.>This is why you don't have magic powers and your life is total shit Anon! At least be honest with yourself,Not really.I have friends, a wife, good home, and dogs I care for.Not to mention beer.I'm a happy fellow. I don't need a book bo bullshit to make that happen.
>>41210455>Oh please everyone fucks off at work.>You really think there's this much shit to do 9 to 5 in an office?Works meaningless jobb>Not really.>I have friends, a wife, good home, and dogs I care for.>Not to mention beer.>I'm a happy fellow. I don't need a book bo bullshit to make that happen.Relly Really trying to convince himself that his life is goodYup, you convinced me Anon. No need to give me more proof that your life is not shit
>>41210471Life is about being happy not having a bunch of trophies to impress a society that cares very little for you.
>>41210475>Life is about being happyWorks menlingless jobb and doesn't even have kids?>not having a bunch of trophies to impress a society that cares very little for you.Reviles he does not have a good friend and family network that he takes care of and loves and takes care of him back.You need magic more than anyone here, Anon
>>41210491>The purpose of life is to reproduce.Uh oh, Christ-tard alert.
>>41210437>>41210454>>41210475I'll post the rest for you Anon
>>41210504I'm not reading all that shit.Lick my anus.
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>>41210502Having a family is Christian? Though you believed in science? >>41210506>I'm not reading all that shit.I know, but now you have the choice. Also, know the closest you have gotten to any STEM field is a 10min YouTube video as well.
>>41193848Repeat after me: i reject the Talmud andTorah, and any connection my Soup has to the Jew god Yaweh. Then write the Tetragrammaton backwards and burn it.
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>>41210529Soul*. But also, Soup. New phone.
>>41210530
I did goetia and thought it didn't work, but after much mischief from Duke Bune, she is finally helping me. o/ Hail Duke Bune and apologies for using the old school coercive Goetic method of summoning.
Only high level "Jews" can do it because they have access to dark tomes and scriptures.They worship Moloch, a lesser demon of the demiurge.However every "Jew" have tainted blood, unless their souls are saved and it's rare like 1 in 6 million.Every Nation they infiltrated know their true colors eventually because they can't help it but be evil and spread misery, death and wars through deception and malice.You're seeing it happening right now, however the demiurge loves fucking with them The stronger they get the closer their demise approaches, I really hope this time is the last oneThe misery they bring into this world is too muchAI, mass surveillance, subversion and division, wars, murder, genocide.Can't wait to see what the demiurge got for them this Time, hopefully something painful and slow that erases them from existence
>>41193848There are prerequisites to real, effective magickal practice. Strong visualization and concentration ability. Then the willingness to have an open mind (momentary suspension of the rational left brain during the ritual). Finally the understanding of and trust for the underlying mnemic content of the symbols involved in the spell. In other words, you have to have a basic understanding of how reality functions plus your role in it. This is why the initiates were given at least one year of didactic study before being asked to even perform one spell or ritual. Otherwise it's like giving a toddler the keys to a car and expecting them to drive without hurting themselves or others. Read Aleister Crowley's equinox publications (first volume will suffice). Once completed, read all of Israel Regardie's Golden Dawn material. There are several books for the solo practitioner on the subject, so you don't need a group. If you can do all the stuff required of the probationary degrees (00 - 10), you're already ahead of 99.9% of humanity. Usually once you can concentrate and visualize for long periods of time you can start with the LBRP and LBRH. Do both every morning upon waking and every night before bed. Try it for just a few days and see the difference it makes. Good luck>>41209322See my post above. Focus on using basic shapes and colors outlined by Crowley in his equinox publications. Then because you already have strong tactile conjuration ability, move to golden dawn visualizations for probationary degree. Any golden dawn book by chic Cicero and regardie is excellent, but I recommend the one written especially for the solo practitioner.
>>41210523Do you have a spell to make me a woman?
>>41210571Lol
>>41210454>>41210504>>41210509>>41210534This nigga is so ass blasted he has a little comic on standby with his schizo shit. Holy fuck lmfao
>>41210571Nothing will happen to them, as always.
>>41211210Casting pearls before swine.You don't even mange to be funny
>>41193848If you put a pot of water above fire then the water magically turns into a gas form.
>>41211434>mangetoo much hentai anon
>>41211511I have gas
>>41210702>Do you have a spell to make me a woman?ask to have your hole fucked.
>>41209322You aren't supposed to literally see it, it's just an image in one's imagination. Imagine your childhood home, or room.
>>41209370>jews don't rule america, just jews+jews 2.0
>>41211434I don't need to be funny, your clown ass is stealing the show.
>>41209213Tell me more
>>41212571I will only tell you more if you practice semen retention. We are recruiting for our monk-ey army.
>>41212759Don't think you're Eris
>>41203238What they call magic is so incredibly mundane and obvious that any above average IQ autist will find that they have been performing "magic" their entire lives.Magic is real, it is also incredibly lame.
>>41206779How can I cast a spell for good luck? Please answer
>>41213065Define "Lame"Cause if it were, The elites wouldn't use it 24/7
>>41213075To a pure hearted anon, such things like desire for power is a waste of time. Most would easily be satisfied with a simple life. I promise you that elites could never hold a candle to the power a single autist has, which is why they go out of their way to make our lives miserable.
>>41193848cast the spell of "vaporize dmt"you'll see some real fucking magic, like you'll straight up become a grandmaster warlock
>>41193848>Oh, magic's real?>Give me one spell I can do right now that will prove it to meIt isn't a spell but matter of consciousness.“For this reason I say to you, do not be worried about your life, as to what you will eat or what you will drink; nor for your body, as to what you will put on. Is life not more than food, and the body more than clothing?"The key component of this verse is to not worry, which is an active process.You must actively choose to not worry and believe that these things will be taken care of without any frontloading of how they will be achieved.The message is to literally "Not Worry About It" So you must consciously not worry about it.Good Luck[I've done it. It's crazy. Don't become religious when it happens because religion is all bullshit built around people too afraid to do it]
>>41194553I rebuke this pajeet shit in the name of Jesus Christ
>>41213114My postaccompaniment: https://youtu.be/eH6mKLqe4Yc?si=VVBKdeknRlDNjDyE
>>41210529What does this do
>>41213218Not something you actually want to do
>>41195693I just did it and it won't burn for real. What did I just do anon?
>>41195718Just like my hero Corey feldman
>>41209213Like a man believing he is a woman? Believe all you want , you will never be a woman.
>>41213280Yeah, I don't want to mess with magik because I believe it always comes back to take its toll. But anyways what does it actually do tho? I'm just curious
>>41204475kino image but why's he got his frock out?
>>41204536@physics anonWhat determines when something collapses a wavefunction vs becomes entangled with it and becomes part of the superposition? Is there a precise description of this yet?
>>41193848I've just cast a spell on you that makes you forget you were gay
>>41193848this fucking monkey's face
>>41209660the only "magick" i know works is intention, some manifestation and out of body experiences. they're not actual magic, it just appears that way because reality is purely mental.
>>41213997You realize how stupid that sounds
I don't have to prove anything to a monke
>He thinks real magic be like "brrrrrr", "pewpewpew", "bzzzttt", "kaboom" just like in them favorite Hollywood movies.
>>41214204>Aoh muh gawd!!!!>Muh fuggin benis!!!!
>>41214204it is, you just have to know what you're doing.https://youtube.com/shorts/9vDcNBfOrec?si=PQD_QpRohVkQ7pSe
>>41210530>>41210534>>41210509>>41210504>>41210454Good shit, saved. Thanks anon, and good luck in your travels
>>41213447It's a Gnostic spell, to make you cut your link to the Demiurge of this realm (Not that anon btw, Just one that understands the spell steps)
>>41214756And resulting in what? Does it serve a purpose, like why am I even tied to a Jewish god
>>41193848you are now breathing manually
>>41216738Wrong.I just farted.Hold your breath.
