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>>41213434
hey can i go next. picrel

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>>41213434
When you're an incel it's most likely not looks, hight, face, skin etc,
it's autism. Always
Just my opinion.

looking for a response

Its evil to mention it when theres real astrologers. chatgpt4 is good,
give it your coordinates, your exact time of birth (you need to know the hour and minute),
and give it the current time (year and month).
its surprisingly accurate.

here a mean preview on the 'anonymous' board
1. Saturn Square Sun (July - August 2025)

You likely faced challenges and restrictions in your career or personal goals, testing your patience and perseverance. This period may have felt like slow progress, requiring extra effort to overcome obstacles.

2. Jupiter Trine Sun (July - September 2025)

This was a time of optimism, where opportunities for growth and success were likely aligned with your efforts. You may have felt more confident and encouraged, leading to progress in your career or personal aspirations.

3. Mars Conjunct Mars (July - August 2025)

A surge of personal drive and energy likely motivated you to take action and assert yourself. However, if things didn’t align as expected, it could have led to frustration or power struggles.

4. Venus Square Venus (August - September 2025)

You may have experienced tension or dissatisfaction in your relknoggationships, particularly in love or creativity. This aspect could have prompted you to reevaluate your values and emotional connections.

5. Uranus Opposition Sun (September 2025)

Unexpected changes and disruptions likely pushed you to reconsider your identity or long-term goals. There may have been a desire for greater freedom or a break from the status quo.

6. Mercury Retrograde (August 2025)

Communication issues, delays, or misunderstandings likely caused frustration, especially in intellectual or social matters. You may have been forced to revisit past ideas or projects during this time.

>>41213434
Saturn square your 7th house
Saturn opposite your Moon
Venus square Pluto

>>41216769
So Im ugly to women and hopeless incel or anything good on the chart about that?

>>41216810
It's not an incel chart. You could have lovers or casual sex, but it will be harder for you to have a gf or a stable partner

>>41216958
why?

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>>41213434
You've got the cult leader personality with creep vibes. Women can pick up on your ascendant working with your scorpio placements and that venus in the 8th house.

yucko

>>41216999
really? is that bad? is there any way to be good?

>>41217016
Yeah, don't exhaust yourself and take breaks from dealing with people. Best thing to do is to take it easy from time to time.

>>41217075
No but can i get real love...despite all my edgy shitposts, they are fake...i want sex and love...

>>41213434
>venus square pluto

I'm guessing you're too obsessive and intense for women. You have aquarius in the 7th house, unironically go for an autistic woman.

>>41217093
I wanted femdom alright...thats what I wanted....ugh...how shameful

>>41217093
Yeah i can be a bit clingy even with friends...I just dont know. im also insecure about not being a chad and women have rejected me over it. I am not sure how ugly my chart says i am, like not as a personality but you know

>>41217080
Post more on /fit/ and figure your shit out. It's not that hard... For sex. As for love no one who's honest can give real advice about that.

>>41217113
>>41217112
I think Im average looks wise, or at least close to it i hope. theres no gym for that

im an incel too and also got pisces venus 8H and Leo Rising
Pisces venus 8H is terrible for a man. It works well for women i think, but not for a man. Its too lovey dovey, and this generation of women dont want that faggot shit
Leo Rising also means you cannot act nonchalant, girls can read you like a book. The mystery is gone.
Good luck anon. Maybe one day we'll ascend.

>>41217112
Here, let's do some magick:

1. Write down what kind of gf you want, including her personality and looks and anything you want her to be
2. Take the description and use just the consonants and do not repeat any.
3. Use these letters to create a sigil. You can arrange them anyway you want and draw whatever feels right
4. Now meditate and focus on the sigil. Imagine the emotions and happy feelings you will have when you date her.
5. This is unnecessary , but you can cum on it for more potency. As you climax, focus on the good feelings and emotions you will have with her.
6. As you fall asleep, imagine meeting her.

Repeat step 6 until it works, and if you do it, it will work.

out of sect saturn ruling your 7th house while also squaring it
also your scorpio mars is strong and also opposing your saturn and 7th house
venus placement isn't great either it's in the house of death/debt/the occult and psychology and stuff, though it is exalted in pisces.

#1 bad thing is your out of sect saturn, it's very prominent in the 10th house and the in sect mars scorpio opposing it and squaring your 8th house stuff is pretty rough
you also have neptune there the neptune will make that stuff seem less clear and maybe idealized, that's not bad but might just make you kind of less clear about it.

jupiter is decent though community and friends might help you, sorting career stuff out will be difficult and delayed but might help with relationship stuff

but yeah if you want to be mad be mad at saturn

>>41217309
i should also mention the saturn is doing other bad stuff as well but that's just how it plays into relationships
your ascendent is leo which is ruled by the sun in capricorn in the 6th which has a trine with saturn and is ruled by it.

Oh yeah I also forgot to mention you also have the moon squaring your 7th house (thats the house of one on one relationships)
(while its also opposing your saturn)

>>41217309
>>41217321
Interesting, Ive been aware of some yes, the 7th house and saturn, pluto too are the root of all evils here.
So what can I do to coutner this? or what will happen?
Im a virgin at 24...I wanna have fun....i dont wanna lose my virginity or date until i am fucking 40

>>41216734
you can use astrology w/ ai in a way that works but you have to give it way more. lazy thing would be entering your chart on astro-seek or something then just printing the whole webpage as a pdf and asking it questions about that.
The stuff you posted is garbage and is more about transits which doesn't even make sense in the context of what he asked (also it is very likely just wrong (if you think it's describing this natal chart it's just incorrect)

>>41217328
you have a night chart so saturn return will be brutal around 29-30 but might get easier after but maybe not

Mars in the 4th house (private/home life/early life/real estate) scorpio you might be able to use constructively more easier and that has a trine with your venus (even though it squares the 6th (daily routine/toil))

In a night chart like yours the best planet is a venus so mars might actually handle itself better.

Your jupiter also has some positive relationships with some of the impaired planets so 11th house (friendship/community) gemini stuff might be helpful.
That jupiter rules your venus so i'd focus on 11th, 8th and 4th house matters as sources of making stuff easier.

Daily habits also might be very significant so make sure you have a good routine and maybe eventually figuring good career stuff out will help.

>>41217361
I see, I understand...taking notes...
can I have uhh a bit more? I've been told that I should be able to have "fun" in my 20s, is that true? I don't know what to do in life, Im considering suicide out of boredom ngl

>Venus 8H BAD
I've always heard it was a good placement, especially in regards to wealth. (as long as there's no malefic aspects)
>t. anon with mercury, venus, mars, saturn and node in 8H with venus, mars, node, and saturn all conjunct with each other and pluto opposing my ass, so i get the worse of 8H yaaaay :')

>>41217370
fun is for women stop being a fag, get a job

>>41217512
i have a miserable job also dont be like that, chads or even normal guys fucking women or having sex are having fun
to deny this is cope
tell me more of the chart

>>41217382
it's bad in the sense venus in a night chart is very beneficial but it's just not in a place where it can do every much. 8th house isn't straight up bad like the 12th house but it doesn't really have good aspects to much so if your "best" planet is there you don't get to see as much from it. It has some negative associations with the things like death and debt and other stuff I mentioned as well but that might be less of a thing since they have the benefic there.

you have to look at everything in context, his venus is also ruled by jupiter which I pointed to which is positive since that's a benefic even though its' out of sect and his venus is exalted as well so some good stuff for it.

also if you have a night chart you have my condolences (also depending on the sign i guess that might kind of rescue it)

>>41217520
yeah you have saturn 10th house its gonna be miserable but its' taurus so you kind of just need to hang in there
i basically summarized it already, like I said dig into venus pisces 8th house, mars/moon conjunct scorpio 4th house and jupiter gemini stuff those are your clearest sources of positive stuff.

Another less obvious one is you might have some easier time or benefits with communication/daily routines/siblings or just the people around you

>>41217583
so im going to be a 30yo virgin? why shouldnt i kill myself now then?

>>41217594
you can't offload your responsibility onto astrology if you end up a 30 y/o virgin it's because you are a gay pussy fag and you are just to much of a faggot to actually do anything

>>41217599
but astrology its fate, my chart has been exactly, as it says, my chart basically has said im an incel and virgin right now
and again does it say im physically ugly?
there was a pluto transist to leo rising

so my chart has followed my life to the letter, therefore if i study my chart and see the future, i can kill myself already having examined all that will happen, makes sense?

if im not having fun and my life sucks, just end your life, the decision is that simple
i just have a sort of murderous urge too at times to take out my anger on others and then kill myself too

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>>41217583
>also if you have a night chart you have my condolences (also depending on the sign i guess that might kind of rescue it)
I was born at night so yes I am fucked, and you can look at my horrific chart if you like. It seems chaotic yet intentional at the same time that my north node would be connected to all of this, even my vertex is too.
I assume my saturn return would be tolerable allegedly because of how prominent it is in my chart, but it's hard to say. I haven't had it great in this life, but I'm trying to hang in there.

>>41217615
you have literally no idea what you are talking about you are just a pussy, if it's cold outside that just means you have to wear a jacket it doesn't mean you are going to freeze to death

even this you are badly using and interpreting astrology to justify you being a massive faggot pussy
you are just a bad person, morally, as in you choose to do bad things and intend bad things. the solution to that is stop stop being such a pussy and just do good things. i told you the routes, you don't actually care though because your a bad person. you are just using the stuff im saying to justify your faggotry.

>>41217628
in a way youre right but my chart says im ugly to women and cant get laid until i am 40, thats what the chart says
so i cant do shit about it man what do you want me to do

>>41217627
damn

you have a cool mutual reception between 5th house pisces moon and 9th house exalted jupiter

a big thing houses is just like emphasis. 8th house stuff is just kind of like, less "weight" so despite your stuff your 4th house, 10th house, 7th house are all decent you have your sun in the 7th and also rules your 10th. your asc ruler is your in sect maleifc but it's right next to your in sect benefic
honestly not as sure what to make of your 8th house its pretty crazy and has the north node on it to emphasize it even more.

everything else on your chart is pretty chill and has some positive stuff though that mutual reception is very cool
(if you don't know what that means it's kind of like the moon and jupiter can express eachother's signs and significations, your jupiter is still a benefic/positive just slightly less controlled then it would be in day but it's also exalted.

So weird mix of like 9th house philosophical/religious/travel being kind of emotional in cancer mixed with 5th house creativity/productivity/hobbies/kids in pisces so kind of dreamy and stuff. They are also trined by sign and the moon rules jupiter so jupiter is "receiving" the moon so it's even more positive, that's a pretty rare positive condition
i like that

also looking at your sun it looks like it's above the dsc which would mean its a day chart...
which would frankly be much more positive for you would strengthen that moon/jupiter thing
that jupiter also rules your 2nd house so a positive thing for money and it's also that pluto you were talking about so you have the best thing on your chart sort of dictating the pluto

>>41217687
WOW SO HE GETS GOOD STUFF AND I HAVE THE SHITTIEST CHART ON EARTH
WHY SHOULDNT I BE A SERIAL KILLER AGAIN?

>>41217687
You're probably the first person who's read my chart and found some positive things in it. I was born at 7:20PM in the US, so it would be right around evening/night but the fact it's not reflected in that way according to you is interesting for sure.
I was told how inherently karmic it is, and I started to view it as I was some stingy cunt in a past life or something. (which would be the polar opposite of how my life is lived now, but i have so many familial obligations and debts that aren't my own tied into that, which is incredibly 8H to begin with)
The jupiter aspect is interesting, and so is the jupiter-moon you just mentioned. Admittedly the last time I traveled it seemed like everything happened to work out and was timed well by happenstance. I am not doing too well financially at this moment, and my managers are reminding me of my maxed PTO, so maybe I should travel again sometime soon before it gets cold.
I wish I wasn't being sucked dry by family nor do I wish I was staying with them because of that, but oh well. Your reading gave me some hope, because I know that my connections with others outside of family are really solid and I do well when I am not near them. (4H uranus may play a role in that though) Unlike OP in this thread, I haven't really had an issue with relationships but I hope something positive comes his way.
Thanks!

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OP im so sorry to interject into your thread but can i get a chart reading too, i did a previous thread similia to OPs one but i got ignored.
I feel like i struggle with relationships too but unlike OP i struggle in all relationships (family, friends, romantic, coworkers etc), also i give off a lame o off-putting vibe to people in appearance and presentation no matter what personality and appearance i take on and why do i struggle with communication in real life so much despite my chart saying im supposed to be good at it? Also id like a 8th house interpretation too, Thank you to whatever amazing anons decide to explain this chart.

>>41217695
Dude my life sucks honestly LOL my fucking family are controlling asshats and I can't even drive at age 23. Anybody who has freedom to think about what they should be doing with their time/money/life is very blessed. I want to become that someday, but alas I am stuck here trying to hold things together until I am financially free enough to leave it all for good.

>>41217759
are you a male? it's very weird for a family to be this controlling especially to a male child. Did you ask them to let you get a drivers license?

>>41217857
No I'm a woman (yes real not a tranny, and no I won't post tits)
My parents are weird honestly. My dad is a greedy fuck who wouldn't pay rent and let a house go into foreclosure without my mom knowing.
My mom is a tad bit munchie and tried to pass me off as borderline tarded for a long time because she homeschooled my brother and me, even though she didn't seek any kind of diagnosis. (it was bullshit, btw)
She tried to take care of everything while my dad couldn't, but I think she has a hard time with knowing that everyone usually tries to leave her grasp because she has (toxic variety) abandonment issues. Family enmeshment as well.
I don't really want to get into the nonsense I've been strung into, but she had a huge problem with my brother and me gaining independence because we felt powerless at 16-18 because our ID documents mysteriously disappeared and we had to wait ages for them to get delivered to us, and me and him didn't get our state ID cards until he was 22 and I was 20. :/
She hated the idea of us getting jobs and driving even though we've all been poor for our whole lives, and since getting a job for the past few years she's used me as an ATM and debt holder. (the debt that affects her affects me too, which is why i even let it happen)
I left home to go and see friends for a few hours and she tried calling the cops to search for me and attempted to try to mark me as a missing person. She has "attempted" to teach me how to drive, but panics and stresses out about where to go to practice and it's a pain in the ass. I tried to do driving lessons, they are expensive though.
She means well at times, but fuck I don't want to hear her talk about the fact that when she dies she wants to give my siblings and me an inheritance, even though the true blessing would be just the fact when she's gone I'll be able to live my life the way I want to without her going into panic mode.

>>41217909
cont.
My mom and dad are a perfect match made in hell despite the fact they are separated. He's no longer in our lives but he just was passive, quiet, and greedy, nothing much more than that.
My brothers are borderline free-loaders and emotional vampires. I am not a perfect person myself and have my own shit to work through, but I swear to God I am the one crab who tries to leave the bucket while they all pull me back in.
It's hard to set boundaries with those who argue and turn the conversation around into a resolution that just isn't relevant nor solves the problem, I want out and they need to figure themselves out once I can get to a place that satisfies me, and also if I can help them out a bit that would be preferable since I really don't want to leave without giving something in return. (as long as these fuckers don't try to stalk me)
They all have fixed earth placements too in their full charts, so I don't know if it's meant to be a life lesson for me or not, because I feel like I've already learned what I know from my hardships and I don't know where to go from here.
As much as I am venting aggressively, I am quite compassionate and I try to help out as much as I can for them. It's just I realize how much my life is being stripped away in return that frustrates me the most.
Thanks for reading my blogpost.

>>41217741
there can be some gray zone around it being a night/day chart when you are near the horizon and you just have to see how it actually functions in someone's life to be sure, all but one of your day/night planets are in the same place so doesn't make it easy lol.
and yeah your second house w/ money isn't good (opposes everything in your 8th) the jupiter just makes it less-bad and IIRC can point to like randomly coming in to money. Some stuff like that just happens once in someone's life it's not a regular thing. If any travel/religious/philosophy stuff ever leads you to coming into some money that's probably why.

your family stuff squares your sun but trines everything in gemini which is interesting.
The 4th house neptune/uranus is the only thing with a positive aspect on your 8th house
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>>41217909
yeah im gonna assume you have a night chart this feels more like out of sect saturn ruling it and would point to why it's like that despite not having any obviously (could be the squaring sun but i doubt it that seems like more

out of sect saturn = being drowned and suffocated and constrained
out of sect mars = being stabbed and lit on fire and torn apart

if you have a night chart bad news your saturn return will not be tolerable night chart people get fucked up

you have a bunch of stuff around it so the mars/venus stuff can help keep it calmer

the moon/jupiter thing is genuinely very rare and very positive so i'd lean into that
you didn't mention 5th house stuff but anything like creativity/making something/doing something you enjoy, it's also associated with having children you can probably see the analogy there

>>41218092
my chart >>41217743 has a morning chart, is that okay?

>>41217743
your main issue is your ascendent is ruled by your out of sect mars leo. Mars is the worst planet in a day chart and yours is ruling your 1st house/ascendent which is associated with the physical body/how you come off to people.

You also have an emphasized 12th house which is generally considered the worst house
your jupiter and saturn are in your 8th house which is fine you'll probably get some positive stuff from that, they are also ruled by mercury in the 12th.

They share a trine though and jupiter is the best planet in a day so it should be extremely supportive of your 12th house stuff.

Those two things I think are the key dynamics for you.
Mars leo ruling your ascendent ruler (if you want this to get some support 8th house stuff can help it as well as 11th house sun virgo stuff community/friends)
>why do i struggle iwth communication in real life
b/c mercury is in your 12th house (along with venus which is dignified there ruling itself at least)that's the house of unconciousness and hidden enemies and isolation and self undoing

And then your 8th house dynamics they are actually pretty essential.
Your 8th house has a your jupiter (in detriment unfortunately) and your saturn (still constructive b/c it's day, it can just point to a delay).
Those are your two more positive planets and they both have good ways of directly support your 12th house stuff and indirectly your mars/ascendent.

For relationships your two key signifiers for that (venus) is in the 12th as I said and your other one (7th house) is ruled by mercury also in the 12th.
you gotta lean into that 8th house stuff i think it should help a ton with relationships.
Also your saturn return I think will be quite positive for you and make that much easier.
>>41218149
day/night is both fine it just changes how certain planets act

>>41218092
>you didn't mention 5th house stuff but anything like creativity/making something/doing something you enjoy, it's also associated with having children you can probably see the analogy there
I have hobbies and art that I dabble into, and always have. It's been hard focusing on it in recent days, but it is my happy place. I hope I can start a family, but I would be OK with just myself too.

>>41218196
might i ask what astrological system are you using for your readings? Are you using whole sign and traditional? Because in the placidus tropical i posted i don't have anything else in my 12th house except for libra in cusp.

>>41218229
i do whole sign

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>>41218234
oh okay, here is the whole sign version.
I feel like whole signs being in the 12th house makes more sense than the 11th version in the placidus.
Since i can't take the placidus social butterfly advice seriously. I was also mute as a kid due to anxiety.

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It doesn't. There is no such thing as a birth chart.

Post a pic in /soc/ asking for opinions if you want the truth.

Most likely you're just ugly, socially retarded, and poor. Why should a copy of you, in the form of a child, be created?

God I hate so many of you

>>41218364
not true because i have looksmaxxed and tried to mask as much as possible and still got the same outcomes even when people said i was attractive or polite. Sometimes it really is due to aura energy and subconscious beliefs and i do think looking at things like astro/human design/destiny matrix can slightly help in understanding yourself although not everything there is accurate. Go take your shitty redditor posts to the christian bible-thumping threads, they deserve it more..

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Your chart doesn't say you're physically unattractive, but it does indicate that you probably struggle with self-worth, emotional intimacy, and idealized expectations, especially in love. You're probably pretty sensitive, intense, and starved for deep connection, but feel misunderstood, rejected, or inadequate—especially if others don't meet you emotionally at the same depth or romantic ideals.

Being an "incel" as an identity almost never comes from looks alone - in fact a lot of incels would probably do just fine if they fixed their hygiene and wardrobe and were less rude and creepy. Rather, most incels emerge as a result from emotional wounds regarding women, unmet needs, and self-perception. Your chart definitely highlights these struggles, but it also indicates that you're perfectly capable of healing.

>>41213434

>>41218436
i agree with you but why are you using those chatgpt-tier em dashes in text??

>>41213434
7th house Uranus is basically you being walled off completely from everyone (including pussy).
This is something even pop astrologists agree upon.
No, there is nothing you can do about it. No "curing" it, no "fixing" it.

>>41219424
Nta but why do I have a stellium in 7th house but stil a turbovirgin?

>>41219516
Consider the possibility of ""more" doesn't always equal "good"".

>>41213434
>uranus in 7th
>descendant is Aqaurius

Look for girls with stellium in Aquarius or strong pominent uranus. Thank me later.

>>41219824
*prominent uranus

>>41219567
But isnt having more but in good condition equals to better thing?

>>41216962
Planets have double meaning, that double nature is ckarified when in relation to other planets
e.g.
Venus is godess of [carnal] Love
Saturn is the god of structuring/hierarchy
Opposition is a symmetric relation, so to speak.
Saturn opposes Venus
Is the same as Venus opposes Saturn
Your structuring conflicts your carnal love ,your carnal love opposes your structuring.
You can have both carnal love and structuring at same time at some point, but it will hardly last, and the more it last it will be "costly" to you.
It doesn't mean it is impossible, but that you'll always be over thin ice with THIS aspect of your life.

>>41220002
how do i lean into my 8th house?

>>41221919
wait sorry replied to the wrong person, meant to reply to >>41218092

>>41213434
Relationship reading for male chart:
Saturn, lord of the 7th house, is a naturally a slow planet, but being retrograde he is even slower. Being the heaviest of the 7 planets, Saturn is likely to be the one who decides the timing of relationships for you.
Saturn transited your 7th house during the COVID years. Did your attitude towards relationships change at all during that time?
It is possible that things would change as Saturn transits Taurus, which is your Saturn return at age 27-30.
Saturn square Uranus-7th might be to totally deny relationships, or to slowly them down significantly. With astrology there is no way to know, other than that Saturn tends to give things slowly, but we cannot say 100% that he will deny totally.

Venus:
Venus is a major significator of a man's relationship with woman. Venus-Pisces is very dignified, however the 8th house is unfortunate house with themes of "loss" and "letting go", which does not bode fortunate for relationships. Thus although you have a wonderful Venus, Venus might not have karmic power in your chart to actually grant a relationship.

Mars:
Mars Scorpio is wonderfully dignified, and in an angular house he has a lot of power. Mars is the masculine drive to chase woman. Mars in perfect trine to Venus is very auspicious for good male/female relationships.
If you want to get a relationship through masculine willpower, Mars would be your best hope. Although the unfortunate house placement of Venus suggests chasing woman out of your reach.

Moon:
Moon is another important indicator of a man's relationship with woman. As Moon is afflicted in scorpio, she is unlikely to give good relationships. Moon scorpio represents jealousy, grudges, excessive desires. So your moon placement causes a lot of negative emotions towards your romantic prospects.

5th house:
The 5th house is romance and sex, while the 7th house is relationships and marriage.
The lord of the 5th house is afflicted...

>>41222599
That bad huh, anything good or is it hopeless?
>>41220002
IS that guy right?

>>41222599
Continued:
The lord of 5th house is badly afflicted by Gemini and retrograde, and possibly some saturn orb conjunction as well, which means Jupiter will not give much here.

Chiron in the 5th house would represent insecurities, pain, traumas and wounds in the area of romance / sex / gaming / pleasure.
Chiron is the wounded healer ... which is an area of life you will try continually to heal, and make some progress, but typically feel that you are never able to fully heal. Although after many decades you may finally feel that you are healed if you put a lot of work in.

North node in the 12th house:
This can represent that spending time alone, or spending time on spiritually, seems to be a materially fortunate thing that life is pushing you towards.

Uranus-7th: Feelings of uniqueness towards partners. Maybe you are interested in unique girls, like cosplay gamer girls, or maybe it is a weird feeling of preferring to be alone, as a unique approach to relationships.
To Summarize:
Working on the Moon (your emotions) will help you feel a lot better about your situation.
Working on Mars will you give a decent shot at learning how to chase woman.
Saturn is likely the one who has power to grant you a relationship, as being the heaviest planet that has association with your 7th house, but may be slow to act.

In astrology, some things are considered fixed karmas that are very difficult to change. Everyone has parts of their life, that no matter how much energy they throw at it, things hardly seem to change. Then your hope is for spiritual attainments at least.

>>41222626
I think you have a lot of passion towards woman, but unable to have success.
Venus-Pisces-8th could mean you have a deep love for woman, but they are woman who are out of your reach.
Whereas Uranus-7th might represent a plain and quirky female that is in your reach, but you're not interested in.

So I am imagining you are going up to a beautiful girl and totally gushing over her, but she is just not interested in you. And then you get upset over this. But if you want to a relationship you have to learn how to fall in love with that quirky Uranus girl who doesn't really excite you that much.

>>41222651
>>41222599
So thanks, you think I'm doomed to be an incel? I wanna suicide if I can't get love or sex
This is just depressing to read. My chart says I'm not physically attractive to women, right?

>>41222698
No my final thought is in this post:
>>41222693

I think at around age 30 you are going to decide to either lower your standards with a girl who doesn't really excite you that much, or to be alone.

>>41222698
dude stop asking the same retarded questions over and over again.

>>41222710
I am pansexual, I am into anything. I might as well say it, porn wise...I like girls who arent models, many would say ugly.

>>41222698
>My chart says I'm not physically attractive to women, right?
Charts only give relative values, not absolute values.
The only really strong indicator of attractiveness in a natal chart is to have a dignified Venus in the 1st house, or to have the lord of the 1st house fortunately placed to a fortunate Venus.

>Relative values, not absolute values:
Imagine a king gives birth to a son, and the natal chart of the son shows poverty. This means that relative to the king he will be poor or perhaps squander wealth, or have trouble recieving an inheritance or allowance from his father, but compared to a commoner he might be considered fabulously wealthy. Because the chart is always put into the context of his birth position as a prince.

>>41222721
Well maybe my reading is wrong then.
If you like ugly girls, well there's lot of choice out there.

>>41222739
>>41222729
No no no I love your take, it's rather unique out of all the ones I got. You're good. and yes, my relationship attitude changed around COVID.
But yeah I really really can like both conventional and actually ugly girls, men too, attractive or unattractive. I'm into anyone and anything.

I am ambitious and competitive, too much. So I see a line of thought of what you said, I crave the next thing I feel I don't have or can't have and so on so on.

>>41217130
>Pisces venus 8H is terrible for a man. It works well for women i think, but not for a man.
Nah it's the 8th house placement that causing the problems.
I know a Venus-Pisces guy who is an absolute ladies man, but due to his Mars-Cancer he doesn't get along well with men and is prone to getting bullied or losing his temper.

Venus signifies your relationship with woman, for both a woman and a man. If a woman has an afflicted Venus, it might just mean that she gets bullied by other woman, but doesn't say much about her relationship with other men.

>>41222752
No one like to be pumped and dumped, not even ugly chicks. You seem to crave sex more than relationships and show that you will dump or cheat on your partners fast with this reply >i crave the next thing I feel I don't have or can't have and so on so on.

why don't you just sleep with men then? pump and dump culture is slowly dying with zoomer women this era but the gay/bi pump and dump culture is always alive so you can have your crave of the next thing over and over again with every different dude.

and if you need a pussy that bad then....why not just hire a prostitute?

>>41222789
I've had 2 chances of "sex" I let go to nothing...I want...I don't know what I want. But arousal, I am into anything, trust me.

I just... don't know how to fit your analysis here.

>>41217382
>Venus 8H BAD
The 8th house is detachment, letting go, transformation, death, inheritance.

So Venus-8th can represent getting money from a relationship. But for a lot of people it will represent letting go of relationships.

The 8th house can be spiritually auspicious, as teaching you to detach from desires and materialism, but there is typically limited material benefits that can come from it.

8H represents death. Orgasm is known as "little death", sex and death very intertwined. You can have a deep relationship with this aspect
Dont listen to doomsayers who have only had shallow love. Only upon death, does love become real

OP you have to introspect on your desires and let us know whether you want sex, or you want love and marriage.
I am sensing this is really just about sex.

>>41216999
>>41217093
What do if Venus in 10th house?

>>41222812
In death!? What do you mean?
>>41222844
I think I am too traumatized about women and romance, Check the 4th house and all the mess there.
I do want sex...I don't even know why. Mimetic. I want what others have.

RELOCATIONAL ASTROLOGY REMEDY:
OP you should go to Astro.com and generate an astrocartography map.
Check out which the line that places Venus in the 7th house.
This will shift your Venus energies from the 8th house (which represents letting go of relationships) to the 7th house (which will help you get a loving relationship).

Yes you can switch your karma simply by moving to a new city. The astrocartography relocational chart doesn't completely over-ride the natal chart, but it does supplement it.
However moving cities can make you feel out of place.

At the very least I would recomend locating a city that has Venus in the 7th house in your relocational chart, and then going on a vacation there and seeing if you feel a rush of romantic hope that you dont feel at home.

>>41222862
>In death!? What do you mean?
All the great love stories are tragedies. Why?
Make your life a piece of art
These guys use medieval astrology which said if someone has 12H placements they should be thrown in a loony bin. Ignore

>>41222871
You're telling me what? Be clear. Isn't that what Mishima did?

>>41222865
Oh I already checked that, thank you. I wanted to ask if it was a hard fate or if relocation can help...

>>41222902
You can try checking one of the coastal cities where the Venus-7th line runs close to the coast.
Because Venus might be in the 7th house, because the line on the astrocartography map only shows the 7th cusp, not the entire 7th house.
So there is a wide orb of hundreds of kilometers that could work.

The problem with moving is that you shift one set of problems for another. The problems caused by Chiron in the 5th house now start to cause problems in the 4th house.
The problems caused by afflicted Jupiter in the 10th house start to cause problems in the 9th house. And so on.

Then you feel out of place. Because the person you are is based off the personality you developed in the city you grew up in. So slowly over years of living in the new city you notice your personality changing to match the relocational chart energies, but you wonder if this is really the person you are supposed to be.

>>41222933
Damn, so whta do I do then? How do I know what to live? Who to be?

Venus ive checked some interest places, on 7th, on 5th, on 1, on 11

>>41222943
>Damn, so whta do I do then? How do I know what to live? Who to be?
Live your life and find out.
Your young so moving to a new city for a few years to learn about yourself could be a fun experience.

>>41223530
I'm broke hahah

I guess I also consider myself aromantic, getting lots of sex (fun) would be my goal rather than love...I can't love people that way. I'm pretty cold

That guy just has me thinking. I'm no casanova, I'm not going to be pulling girls over and over...and my standards are not even that high, it's less about looks with me and rather about how open minded someone is.

>>41223584
>it's less about looks with me and rather about how open minded someone is.
Well duh this is an astrology thread.
There are plenty of beautiful men and woman who get zero relationship action because its not in their karma. They only get attention from other people, but keep shutting shit down.
On the other hand there are plenty of ugly people who are hyper sexual sluts, or who have great marriages.

>>41223619
>There are plenty of beautiful men and woman who get zero relationship action because its not in their karma. They only get attention from other people, but keep shutting shit down.
>On the other hand there are plenty of ugly people who are hyper sexual sluts, or who have great marriages.
is that so?

>>41223708
yeah how often does /pol/ have threads gloating about a beautiful woman who never married
And go to some nightlife and you will surely be able to find a hyper social kinda ugly manlet dude who is a manwhore with 100 body count trying to overcompensate by banging sluts

>>41223725
You ever heard of the mimetic theory of desire? How people crave and go to desire that which who they think its "superior" desire? hook up culture is such baser sexual desire, the most basic version of sexuality now
I don't want that. I don't know what I want, I want real love, I've never felt it. The basic lower vibration within me wants more and more stuff, other things.

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im cooked

>>41217116
Get letters after your name and some muscle dude.

>>41217154
Don’t tell the kid to make a servitor and then not explain how and why you need to destroy them after they stop being useful.

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Anyone here willing to read a synastry chart for me?
I'm generally pretty decent with astrology, but I honestly have no idea what to look for or where to start when it comes to synastry.
This new relationship just feels amazing and like nothing I have experienced before so far. I just want to know if it seems viable longer term.

Our natal charts generally seem like they suggest good compatibility, but I want to go deeper.

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Reading please. I know nothing about this stuff but am utterly fascinated. Last time I posted this chart someone said I was dangerous sociopath which I assumed was a joke

>>41222626
>IS that guy right?
X Opposition Y: "is strongly against"/" always battles with"/"clashes", as it is symmetric so XopY is same as YopX
X square Y: "is somewhat against"/"sometimes battles with", symmetric too.
Conjunction: "strongly helps", "totally goes with", symmetric too
Triangle:"somewhat helps", "often goes with", symmetric too
The planets can be read as their "classical greek myth" archetype, so each this figure have an eesencial "word" to it
Saturn:Lawness/Structure ["the great malefic", bad rigid papa]
JUpiter: JUSTice/GENErosity ["the great benefic", good extrovert daddy]
Mars: WAR, Explosive/Energetic ["the lesser malefic"]
Venus: Love/Desire [carnal knowledge], ["the lesser benefic"]
Mercury: Messenger/Communication
Moon: Emotions/motherhhod [what a girl shines through]
Sun: Reason/manlyhood [what a guy shines through]
The houses are where[situations] in your life that that "dance" of the planets will occur. [You can use a search engine/AI to look for each of them 12 main houses, 3 decans each] decans are the really bad aspects of your life.
MD Midheaven [Medium Cœli] is what you'll "become" if you overcome all bad aspects of you life, this occurs laye in your life
IC[bottom of the sky, Imum Cœli] this is the "luggage" that comeswith you already when you're born [some people that believes in reincarnation says it is the past life karma, but there is some non-reincarnation point-of-view to IC, that it is just the inherent task that is given to someone]

I wanted a femdom gf
>>41226979
So from this I see he is right then?

>>41213434
it's the Aquarius Mercury

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Do me, anything interesting?

>>41225591
I prefer to generate natal charts for both partners, and compare them side by side, as such I am going to ignore the house placements for readability sake.

It is also good to identify who is male and who is female. Because Mars and Sun is a woman's relationship to men, which is important in synastry, but Mars and Sun represent a man's relationship to other men as well, which is generally not so important in synastry. Although it can indicate things like ego clashes and fighting regardless of gender.

So an example in your chart:
Jupiter-15-Sag square to Venus-12-Pisces.
This could indicate a partner who begs to spend your money, and you get in a mild fight over it, but Venus and Jupiter are both so dignified and pleasant in the signs of Pisces and Sagitary, that its hardly a big deal. Vibes sort of like a wealthy starbucks girl begging her wealthy partner to spend money, which isn't all that bad.

Saturn trine Moon: This aspect can emotionally tie someone to a relationship. This is not a bad thing at all, but is good for long term stability.

Venus Pisces sextile Sun Taurus: A great aspect, where your heart is in harmony with their ego. Again it is helpful to know the genders of the partner.
Mercury-Aquarius sextile Moon-Aries: This means the Moon partner will emotionally enjoy hearing the mercurial chattering of the mercury partner.

Mars-Aquarius square Mercury: This indicates arguments.
Mars-Aquarius opposite Mars-Leo: This indicates fighting.

There's some good stuff and some bad stuff in there.
The worst thing is the Mars opposite Mars and Mars square Mercury, which indicates some fighting. As you both mature you may learn how to stop fighting, by things like not criticizing your partner, setting boundaries, letting things go, not always having to be right, not being controlling, etc.

>>41227223
>So from this I see he is right then?
I'm the same guy, but this more detailed [yet far from full] explanation i've just done is just an introduction on the astrological chart.
You can look at it as a "language" that you can improve your proficiency over time.
>I wanted a femdom gf
By that chart, it only means that will be harder and more costly [not necessarily in money-sense] to you, but not impossible.
Hope all that have helped you, fren.

>>41227865
OP this anon has a good point.
Mercury-Aquarius is on the degree of your descendant, which suggests the woman you partner with will be most strongly significated by Mercury-Aquarius.
This could represent an educated girl with social justice vibes. A girl who makes you think and talk.

>>41228130
>I wanted a femdom gf
Venus in the 8th house, suggesting power / femdom, and even a woman who is out your reach.

>>41226492
Mercury-Virgo-8th: You might do well in a career like accounting that deals with other people's money or possesions.

Sun-Leo: Hard to know whether this acts in the 7th house or the 8th house. If in the 7th house it indicates you treat your partner's with warmth, respect, and positivity, and see the good side in all people. In the 8th house can indicate an somewhat malefic desire to attain power over other people.

Rahu-9th cusp: Perhaps going to university was a great dream fulfillment for you. You may get similar vibes from traveling.

Chiron-10th and Mars-Libra-10th:
Possibly some insecurities and slander and ill-place will towards career image.
An afflicted Mars like this can also represent a cop/soldier/security who oversteps their bounds with excessive force and cruelty. Or it can represent a weak and cowardly will, where you just can't really apply yourself.
In the 10th house it possibly represents arguments pertaining to career.

>>41228146
>>41228130
Wait, don't leave just yet mind expanding on this, but WHY do you think in the translation from astrological to real things, to things we call reality. Why would it be HARDER for me to get a relationship? Sex? Based on the translation of the astrological factors to material. Mind expanding?
Please.
>>41227865
>>41228138
Interesting, yeah I'm very clear on my aquarius mercury, that girl sounds like my type yeah...

>>41227978
Moon-Cancer-11th:
You derive a lot of happiness from community and friends.
Moon square Sun:
Your happy emotions due to community ties and friends will sometimes clash with people's fragile egos. It may even be your own ego doing the clashing.

Mars conjunct Venus in Sagitary-4th:
Mars venus conjunction generates a wonderful and exciting sexually romantically charged energy, and in the sign of sagitarius there is a lovely exploratory expansive energy.

>>41228204
The 8th house is a house of letting go, detachment and desire.
It is the house of unfulfilled desire, not the house of fulfilling desires.

Venus-Pisces indicates you have a deep love for woman.
But in the 8th house suggests themes of: unfulfilled desire, femdom, letting go, out of reach, etc.

The 8th house is just a bad house.
There are destructive forces in the cycle of life, and a lot of those destructive and lossy things are shown in the 8th house.

On a positive note, having a dignified fortune in the 8th house can represent marrying a wealthy partner, or recieving a generous inheritance.

>>41228228
I'm pansexual so maybe I'm uhh more meant for guys.
Wealthy partner? But youre telling me im some incel who CANT get women nor sex, i dont know what fits or not

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Will I have a girlfriend for life? I have everything - money, friends, comfort, even musical talent but I'm worried that I will never find a wife. South node conjunct Venus looks bad.
Do you think there is a chance for me to find real love?

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So, how about me? why do I do bad at love, very good at making money ( If I put my mind into it) close to none "lucky strikes" in life. very talented for many stuff, but achieved not too much in life.!?!?!?

>>41229096
Yeah there's mixed signals in there.
Venus and Moon in 7th house are great for relationships.
Ketu does suggest detachment and moving away from relationships, although Ketu ussually brings the detachment later in life. Rather than totally denying a relationship, it is just as indicative of getting a marriage, but becoming detached from your wife ... like you just find spending time on her to be boring, or a black hole, and value spending time on yourself more.

Mercury and Moon are in mutual reception, and rule over the 7th and 8th house: Somehow your partner and her finances are probably going to be connected.

>I have everything - money, friends, comfort, even musical talent
Thank your Jupiter in the 11th house, the house of his joy, and being lord of your ascendant, and making trine to Venus-7th.
A fortunate 11th house is great for networking and meeting friends and communities, and without this its much harder to meet a partner.
With Jupiter-11th trine Venus-7th, it is likely you meet romantic partners from your friend groups and community ties.

Overall I would say I think you have a great shot at finding a partner.

>>41229386
7th House (relationships):
Lord of 7th in the 3rd house, conjunct Sun-Aquarius.
The Sun in Aquarius is unfortunate here, so this is an affliction to the lord of the 7th.
Possibly the ego or status or self-esteem of yourself or others is somehow causing relationship blockages.
The 3rd house Mercury, suggests talkativeness.
Mercury is also afflicted by the lord of the 3rd house, being Saturn in the 12th house, making square to Mercury. A 12th house Saturn can cause social isolation and ostracization, and desire to be alone.
So you have some loner energies tied up to the lord of your 7th house of relationships.

5th house (sex and romance):
Mars Aries in his own sign, means you are able to take action and achieve goals here. However Venus-Aries is afflicted here
Venus has love blockages in the sign of Aries, but instead has a competitive, and power hungry side, which can stamp out true love.
If you are a woman, this could men that men are able to hook up with you easily, but they aren't interested in a relationship.
If you are a man, it should indicate that you are able to have success with sluts.

Overall for relationship success, you have to mediate on what the meaning is behind Mercury being the ruler of your 7th house, in the 3rd house, and being afflicted by both Sun-Aquarius and Saturn-12th.
The meaning of it will probably be obvious to you, but its hard for me to unpack, as obviously there's a lot of energies there.

>>41228204
Basically astrology is empirical knowledge accumulated by mankind over centuries. It can work, it can't work.
You'll have no smofern science proof of it, if it is what you want, unfortunately.
Are there natural cycles of about 2 years? Over centuries they associated that with Mars. Cycke of about 30 years? Sayurn got associated with it. Cycle of 260 days [like hunan pregnancy]? Venus end associated with it.
Cycles of about 28 days [like human female periods], associated with moon.
Yearly cycle? Sun.
It is just a SUNDIAL reading. Same as when you look at a clock and/or watch to check the tune of the day.
Astrology was relevant because in really ANCIENT times, people have no calendars or timekeeping devices, or the existing ones were too expensive.

>>41229627
Making the meaning of the 7th / 3rd / 12th house ties is that you are ESL speaker who immigrated to a new country, making you feel like a bit of a loner and having communication problems, and this is impacting your relationship ability.

>>41229643
Thanks for taking the time to look into this, you are right about me migrating to another country, but this is just recently, lived most of my life back in my country of origin. I am a male btw, and yeah, I kinda of vibe with sluts sometimes but it is not what I am looking for.

no idea what are you talking about the meaning behind mercury or the third house, it is definetily no obvious for me, could you give me a hint to want to look into?

>>41229575
thanks for your answer
what can you say about Pluto trining Sun and Mercury? Is this significant? Good or bad?

>>41229907
is that a real thing? I dunno why one is used and not the other?

>>41229629
No but why? Astrology seems to be accurate
so in my case...why?

>>41222599
I am jealous the other guy has venus 7th in his natal chart meanwhile you told me im basically coded to be single and a virgin...
>>41232782
Understood (Im lost so barely...)

How do I determine whether or not Sidereal or Tropical is the true zodiac? Please help, whoever actually has this figured out. I look into this and I get so confused.

>>41232879
You don't have it that bad either.
Could be much worse than it is.

>>41234673
Tropical zodiac is based on the sun generating the seasons, and thus has zero relationship to the stars. The shortest day of the year is always the 1st degree of Capricorn. The sun's position in its own orbit is what determines the types of energy it has.
Sidereal astrology made the fallacious assumption that the zodiacal energy of the Sun is caused by stars that are very dim and far away, when in reality the stars are only used as position markers across the sky.

The tradition of western and arabic astrology is based on tropical. And none of the giants of the tradition who understand how it works has posed any serious doubts about it.

>>41234673
You can imagine old stargazers tracking the motion of the sun, and noting the shortest day of the year to denote the start of winter, and the longest day of the year to denote the start of summer.

That's how the tropical zodiac is generated, and its as simple and natural a phenomenon as that.

>>41232879
To make you feel better I'll give you a much, much worse scenario:
Venus-Virgo in the 7th house, with Mercury in the 6th house, making opposition to Saturn in the 12th house.
Thus the lord of the house, and planets in the house, are afflicted.

>>41237117
OKAY, but youre not answering my question, WHY WHY WHY is it hard for me to get
SEX
WOMEN
RELATIONSHIPS?

>>41226979
>>41222933
>>41222599

YOU TOLD ME IM GOING TO BE AN INCEL WOMEN DONT LIKE

>>41237244
(1) If you are born in a shit society where dating sucks for everyone, then you need exceptional karma to overcome it. Whereas if you ask the average boomer, they will admit everything just kinda fell in their lap because they lived in a high trust, hyper-social, society with more traditional gender roles.
(2) Saturn might delay things. You might be impatient now, but when you're 30 or 40 you might look back with appreciation on the years you were single.
(3) Venus-8th suggests chasing woman out of your reach, but you need to be going for the Mercury-Aquarius-7th girl, but she might be delayed by Saturn.
(4) Fate: If things are fated, and you have a fated marriage partner ... looking at it from this perspective it is not such a bad thing to wait a while for the perfectly fated moment for it to unfold.

>>41237279
So basically with the astrological concept of fate:
If you are fated to meet your wife at age 30, thus nothing you do until that time will really make much difference. You will just be spinning your wheels in a sense.

I now a guy met his very wonderful girlfriend when Jupiter and Rahu transited his 7th house. Multiple other charts I've seen where significant relationship forms according to important transits. Nothing they did before the important transit period made any difference to their long term relationship

>>41237279
Fair, sorry I got mad. I am not going after woman out of my reach, I am in fact not going after anyone. I have jerked off a little too much over the years, I am a strange little person I won't lie.

I am not CHASING after anyone. So what could it mean? Also what career is good for me pleaseee??

>>41237400
>I am not CHASING after anyone.
Well you should be, cause woman really dont chase themselves.

>Lord of 12th afflicted Moon in Scorpio:
You dont enjoy being alone.

>Career
I dunno something will probably work out for you. You're 23 and have no idea?
Keep doing what you're doing and things will eventually work out

>>41213434
CAREER:
Saturn-10th trine Sun-Capricorn-6th
You're probably going to have to work hard in a professional environment.
Things will get easier after age 30, as people will respect you more in career.
You should be fine if you just work hard

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>>41237436
I'm almost 25 now...so see why im so mad? People are having sex and fun and whatever and im some loser virgin
I am mad, i wanna have sex and relationships

im quite happy being alone actually, i just dont want to feel like a loser. others are having more fun than me, get what i mean?
>>41237455
Professional? but i dropped out...
maybe i fucked my life

so my chart delays sex, delays relationships, delays women...
i hate it

no woman will be attracted to me
>>41237455
>as people will respect you more in career.
But after 30 youre old...Ive never had sex on my 24 and soon to be 25...whats the use then?

This makes it sound like ill only get a golddigger then....maybe i should suicide

>>41237436
>Well you should be, cause woman really dont chase themselves.
Why would I do that? I tried and nothing worked. I was an incel even.
I gave up on life

hi

>>41213434
trust you dont need it. just buy a silicone doll.
They have dolls that moan and talk now a days

>>41239173
What I want isnt something a simple doll can give
What I have is hunger

>>41239276
no offence anon, but we don't need people like you reproducing. This world is overpopulated by 3rd world degenerate fucks, we don't need more. Keep that little hairy pp in your pants and go hump a pillow

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>>41239295
Who said anything about reproduction? I am one insane person and my goals are impossible to understand. Thank you for your reply.

so what does it say?

>>41217583
>also if you have a night chart you have my condolences (also depending on the sign i guess that might kind of rescue it)
Why is it so?
I've read some astrology, but didn't find shit regarding night charts being bad for saturn return or bad in general.
You got a remediation and or source for this?

still waiting

>>41237117
>>41237149
Thanks a whole lot. These were the best answers I've gotten regarding this. Was digging as extensively as I could, kept finding tropical to be more accurate with everything that I looked at, but kept hearing about how Sidereal was supposedly the "real one" and blah blah.

>>41241266
this is like one of the most basic principles of traditional astrology literally read anything before 1800

keeping my thread up for advice
hello there >>41237436
>>41237455