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Sup. This is another TI thread. ITT we discuss the gaslighting aspect of the TI phenomenon's experience. We talk a lot about the gangstalking. While the gangstalking does happen and worth discussing, I rarely see this side of things brought up, even though it is the entire other half of the coin. I never see gaslighting discussed in any depth here, so let's adjust that.

Been a TI since the beginning of 2021. It started with some real mindfuck shit, imitating my family and friends, using psychological warfare techniques to rob me of sleep and general inner peace, generally gaslighting everything good out of my life. If you're a TI, that should sound familiar. The change for me happened when I started journaling everything. Not only a healthy habit without being a TI, it's borderline required for survival if you are one. If you take anything from this thread, write everything down, share what you learn with others, use it to escape the "TI victimhood mentality" we can get stuck in.

Lastly, more detailed breakdowns below. I write a lot about this stuff and threw it up on reddit for the free, highly visible and sharable hosting. Don't bother with karma or whateverthefuck, it's a throwaway account.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist

Step by step breakdown of observed, distinct phases in the experience of being a TI, with inferred intent behind each
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/phases-of-manipulation

How I personally jailbreaked my mind from the murk they tried to keep it in. The experience is ongoing, but i'm far more in charge of my life at this point in time than I was when the asymmetry of information strongly tilted the balance of power in their favor.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/overcoming-the-slow-erosion

Special-focus on one technique in particular we can use to overcome the relentless narrativizations.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/counter-storytelling/
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Gangstalking is spooky and all that, but the real mindfuck is the **covert gaslighting** operation running alongside the EMF tech. This is about psychological warfare, not just noisy neighbors. They use constant narrative framing and recontextualization to convince you you've lost your mind or are a victim. They use psychological techniques and subaudible cues to fake **thought insertion** and hijack your internal monologue, all to destroy your agency. The goal is simple: make you doubt every single thing you do, think, or say, forcing you to cede control, so you either neutralize yourself or become inert while forever fighting them in your own head.

What have you all experienced? How did you deal with it? I want to share as much as we've figured out in here.
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>>41217964
>>41217976
That doesn't happen. You are suffering from paranoid delusions.
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>>41217964
bumping
OP is a real one
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>>41219247
>this user thinks he’s not evil
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>>41217976
>What have you all experienced
not going to get into all of it
but i have been followed
i’ve seen the zersetzung plays
i have heard the robot voices
you are not alone anon
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>>41219247
I'll just leave this here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HearingVoicesNetwork/comments/1nfehrq/is_it_a_mental_disorder_or_is_it_something_else_a/

Your standpoint makes sense only from a position of not knowing any better. Educate yourself.

There's a gulf of difference between having hallucinations and paranoid delusions, and this thing that hundreds of thousands of people are experiencing - many of whom in the last few years, all at once - that acts with a malevolence and ultra-reactive intelligence that a hallucination simply could never have.

On that note, if you're a glowie, tell Mike I said hi.
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obligatory it's aliens post
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>>41221010
Fellow TI here. Where's it all leading to is what I'm asking. My voices tell me the whole thing is an art project. I got gangstalked and after a few years started hearing voices and they got me a girlfriend, and now my relationship with my girlfriend is cursed. They tell me I'm on trash TV, I dunno about yours but mine is a comedy horror tragedy romance.
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>>41217964
Targeting is directed occult demonic attacks, not this high tech their shills talk about in the alternative media (which is also controlled by the same 'elite').
Targeting is occult spiritual warfare attacks. You may have heard about satanists in the military MK Ultra team developing psychological 'weapons'. These directed demonic attacks and demonic oppression are the weapons. Of course, they have to disguise it as super high tech wave and frequency etc weapons in a propaganda they spread in the alternative media.

Praying makes the targeting go away.
You can find the "Our Father..." prayer online. Say it twice every day. More times if the targeting is intensive.

In addition to this, ask Jesus literally every day to remove all hexes, vexes, spells, curses etc off of you.

It works. It works for everyone. Including non-Christians.
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>>41217976

How to Stop the Targeting:

I was targeted but I got out of it a few months ago. I used body detox, mind detox and spiritual detox.

Step 1: Detox from the 'nanobots' which are parasites and metal dust, chitin and the other antennas they use to target you:

1. Heavy metal detox: zeolite, bentonite, spirulina, chlorella, atlantic dulse algae, charcoal.

2. Anti-parasite cleansing: any herbal anti-parasite pills or tinctures, wormwood, cloves, black walnut hull, pumpkin seeds, diam. earth, CDL/CDS chlor dioxid solution, spirulina, chlorella.

3. Chitin detox (they spray this in the c. trails, it is used as a secred food additive, bioweapons = dust mite like microscopic insects that leave behind chitin and people breath it in): Bromelain or Serrapetase or Nattokinase enzymes. Activated charcoal, aspirin treatment (1 aspirin per day), spirulina, high doses of ascorbic acid (vitamin C).

It will take weeks or months to remove these from your body.

Feel free to add other supplements that have helped you.

Step 2: Mental detox

1. Say out loud or in your mind with intent: "I do not consent to being a targeted individual".

2. Replace negative thoughts with positive thoughts/images/memories about your past, present and future aggressively with intent.

3. State a number of times per day: "I have 100% control of my mind".

4. When you have a negative thought, suggestion, say aggressively: " That's a lie" it snaps you out of that state.

5. Use meditation, relaxation tapes. Read up on the Silva Mind Control Method (how to control your own mind), Autogenic Training, Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP), buy and listen to tapes by Anthony Robbins and other self-help, motivational coaches. This can be used to reprogramme your mind.
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Step 3: Spiritual Detox

Targeting is mainly occult spiritual attacks, they send demons to attack you. It is not 5G or waves or frequencies as they tell you in the alternative media.

In spiritual warfare, you always have to call on a more powerful force/entity than the attackers. Why not ask the top two?

1. Ask Jesus to remove any vexes, hexes, spells, curses and similar things off of you. Ask him to keep these away from you forever.

2. Ask Jesus to invalidate any deal you have made with the devil knowingly or unknowingly and ask him to invalidate any deal that was made against you in the spirit realm.
(Sometimes you click on something and it is a deal with dark forces.)

3. Pray twice a day using the "Our Father..." prayer. The dark forces and entities are repelled by this prayer, they hate it, they run away scared when you do it. It works for non-Christians too.

I wish I could say that other religions work against them, but they don't.

(Save this comment and paste it everywhere in the TI groups or TI websites.)
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>>41222231
Dear God, why the fuck are you allowing this to occur in the first place? Fix it, idiot. Amen.
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>>41222266
God allows it as it increases the spiritual power level of the targeted individual. Just like trauma based mind control produces persons with paranormal skills. Apparently all the sins of the TI get stuck to the targeters. Targeting is part of ascension. All the spiritually evolved individuals have to go through it. You can minimise its effect by praying to God or Jesus. Repenting, doing the repentance exercise in the above post will stop all forms of the targeting, including the gangstalking. Do it repeatedly. It works for non-Christians too.
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>>41222266
Do the above detox steps (body, mind, spiritual). With these methods you can glide through your targeting years.
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>>41222332
Elaborate on these paranormal skills. I have a minimal amount of prophetic insight but that's about it.
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>>41222221
I saw this same post in the other TI thread and hesitated to respond, because there's good advice in it on just the detoxing and health stuff, but lets make one thing abundantly clear. We don't have a way to put a stop to this thing. Not at the moment, anyway.

Positive affirmations will absolutely help your overall mood and resilience in maintaining your personal integrity in the face of the whirlwind of nonsense that is being a targeted person, but that's the extent of it. Until we know exactly who is doing this and why, something I currently consider unlikely in my lifetime, or how to mitigate the effects on a physical level, it's not going to change anything in a material way. That said, do it for the mental benefits.

Part of the problem is posts like this one, diving into the supernatural and dressed up with helpful information to make the poison go down easier. I appreciate the good parts in this, and I think most that post these things mean well, but this is not a supernatural phenomenon.

I have half a mind to think the supernatural explanations of this phenomenon are part of the counter intel part of this, but i've filed that one under 'big maybe' for the time being. Food for thought at least.
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>>41224214
If you are a religious person, they imitate religious figures, symbols, iconography, beliefs, everything and anything they can twist into something that benefits their goals. While I give plenty of room for genuine divine interactions to take plac when it comes to the distinct signature of this phenomenon, so many people hear the "voice of god" that is really just either an overpaid technician or an AI spouting manipulative phrasings, worded in ways that try to steer your thinking in one direction or another.

On another note, while not key to believing it is a technologically based phenomenon, I do find it beneficial to think of it as something man-made and thus possible to fight against. If it's something supernatural, what hope do we have? I'd rather opt for the more likely explanation that also happens to be actually empowering, in the face of a situation that is by its nature disempowering.
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>>41217964
Give me orgasms you fuckheads!
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>>41224314
Dude
Imagine
Remote microwave vibrator toy

fr though I often think about the tech used to do this stuff and the biggest thing that stands out to me is all the good they could be doing in the world with it, yet here they are ogling and prodding random people they mildly dislike. Disappointing.
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>>41224525
Imagine the guy inventing it. Fucking rage-brainer.
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Unrelated to disappointing uses of advanced tech, but wanted to throw this one out there too. I saw how often TIs get written off as just suffering from a mental illness, and i've also seen the inverse, where people who have genuine mental illness end up catching wind of this whole TI thing as a good-enough explanation, running with it, and not getting the help they need. So I wrote a thing recently about how to tell the two apart and discern for yourself which situation you're in. Did a lot of research for this one, talked to dozens of people from both situations. I sincerely hope it helps.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HearingVoicesNetwork/comments/1nfehrq/is_it_a_mental_disorder_or_is_it_something_else_a/?sort=new

If anyone has a beef with this one in particular, say so, I want to make this document helpful, not harmful.
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>>41217964
The change for you happened when you started journaling, the change for me happened when I realized it was AI.

The shit stopped framing people in my proximity gradually after that and what was once elaborate turned into a repetitive chatterbot. Knowing an AI watching me all day and not people made it easier to tolerate. Figuring out that the entire purpose of this was indeed gaslighting oriented for the purpose of making me sound crazy to anyone who would listen resulted in me not reacting to it anymore. This thing knows when it can't fool you anymore. What I don't really understand is the continued light harassment. It must really be a "fuck you" and nothing else.

>>41224214
The supernatural believers just use it as a coping mechanism. I doubt anyone in the final stage of this shit that involves light harassment without much fanfare actually believes what they tell themselves. Most of them probably know they are an mkultra lab rat, the alternative is just a nicer thought. This is also a supernatural board and this tech is basically the living embodiment of the final episode of X-files where everything paranormal, alien, or demons were in the end really just glowniggers wearing a wig. They're going to be naturally inclined to refute the glownigger brain computer interface capable of simulating alien abduction and demonic possession rather than it actually being real.
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>>41224629
So some asshole is attacked by nanobots or whatever the fuck and the real schizo goes: oh oh me to!
Yeah it can create a lot of problems. You have a point.
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>>41224629
The problem is that this shit is an AI and for each target the protocol varies either slightly or greatly. Some people being assaulted by this trash don't get the voices at all and their harassment is almost entirely subliminally based. These are the targets that usually link crazy coincidences together or have really stupid thoughts like every red car on the road are following them. Some people get them every waking moment. I would fit into both categories according to you as I have heard nonsensical, repetitive voices in the later stages and the elaborate, as if I am talking with another human voices in the beginning. After experiencing many of the bells and whistles of this technology I am under the assumption that there is a great possibility that disorders like psychosis and schizophrenia do not actually exist.
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>>41224743
The variety in torture could be dependable of the users of the tech.
Little Timmy got pranked by Big Bob his entire youth so he sends Big Bob voices now and then to confuse him as revenge.
Angry Agnus however fucking hates her neighbor and sends them orgasm rays all day long so they can't do anything and they lose their house.
As for psychosis and schizophrenia. The only thing that fits in with gaslighting tech is the wild theories both victims create when they don't know wtf is going on. Gaslighting tech is usually timed for whatever reason which only fits in with epilepsy. So is epilepsy not real? Does things that trigger epilepsy short circuit the tech?
This is getting stupid.
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>>41224743
>disorders like psychosis and schizophrenia do not actually exist.
I've reached the same conclusion and expanded on it, if these disorders are caused by aliens, what of all other mental disorders? Mental illnesses are inexplicably on the rise at the moment and a lot of that can be attributed to people getting tested more often these days but it could be the aliens are also scaling up their operations for whatever reason. That being said, I have strong reason to believe they're also the ones who provide us with dreams, so theyre not strictly malevolent...
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>>41219247
Yes hangstalkimg exist satanidt nutcase one mafia two Patrick knowlton he was paid pit i have you idiots posting you gay tarot card luckily franko TV caught you weird fucks in cemeteries at night 4 of your kind and apparently so have the cops gangstalking is stasi tactics and blinked tactic biggest gang stalkers lawsuit won period confidential ifnromsnt fags and dhs and fbi did matrix of pre 911 documentary a noble and then yes psyops crew aka Smith mundt you know asshole Paul Bonnaroo won his lawsuits idiots proving every detail thanks to what counter surveillance Bobby spindle was hired by Jimmy Hoffa to covert follow a d wiretap building residence businesses etc he was also hired by others this came out pelicans was also prosecuted for his role the Hollywood pi for aggressive tactics just black cube and etc idiots this is an abhorrent shit eating low intel uneducated pile fp crpa post watch the sopranos its based on true stories newsflash st valentines massacre was setup a follow job get it if people who never graduated your high schools can do the brinks they can do Garda world you impotent ignroant lying satanic nutcase you discredite soo lying and go die bots
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>>41224314
accurate
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>>41219267
Patrick knowlton Paul Bonnaroo and then who pelicans exposed and black cube with who mosady surveillance kgb and then othe runitnel and mercury companies payops units and cointelpro which was successfully exposed for yes what called gang stalking thats admitted whonsi satanic reality denying snd deluded go back fucking dogs and spewing bile and shit you ashsoel satanic you deny reality jews nigguurs crowleyite shit gets the rope first idiots sayanim have been caught world wide being gang stalking faggots how many hundreds lmaooo 2nd reply is dipshit retarded lyign logically dissociative not keeping up current event retarded you nee to be killed
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>>41221010
Idiots stop psychology no or said hearing voices sruodia shsoel shitpigs once 3 decades me and my mother in csr Hernandez a ghsot disembodied poltiegeist or mimmcik thank god all thats recorded by thiusand gjostvusting units worldwide nver told any of that never tell psychology anything they are liars they sre not science they are fetus mentally and spiritually always wrong dipshits kill them they are tempalr the brain is not the mind
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>>41225030
friend you are posting in near indecipherable gibberish. That seems like disorganized speech, which is a symptom of schizophrenia. Please take your meds if you haven't been taking them, I take mine.
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They say that an orgasm is the deepest form of honesty. Apparently not anymore.
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The ones targeting me are losing their shit ever since I posted this thread, so let's turn up the heat a tiny bit.

Or at least the effects have gotten much more intense.

Here are all the text dumps i've posted in the last full year. I hope some of these help y'all. Writing them helped me a lot. There won't be a lot of "that describes my situation exactly", instead you should see what parts align with your experience and which don't and go from there.

Anyway, here:

* Overcoming the slow erosion of the TI Phenomenon: My experiences
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/overcoming-the-slow-erosion](https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/overcoming-the-slow-erosion)
* Demystifying the Technology of Control
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/demystifying-the-technology](https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/demystifying-the-technology)
* Deconstructing the victim narrative
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/deconstructing-the-victim-narrative](https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/deconstructing-the-victim-narrative)
* The Phases of Manipulation
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/phases-of-manipulation](https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/phases-of-manipulation)

(continued)
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* Subtle Provocations And Investigations
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/provocations-and-investigations](https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/provocations-and-investigations)
* The Purpose of Isolation and Doubt
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/isolation-and-doubt](https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/isolation-and-doubt)
* Counter-Storytelling
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/counter-storytelling](https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/counter-storytelling)
* How to Discuss Unusual Experiences
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/how-to-discuss-experiences-with-loved-ones](https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/how-to-discuss-experiences-with-loved-ones)
* How To Tell If You Are A Targeted Individual
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/how-to-tell-if-you-are-a-ti](https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/how-to-tell-if-you-are-a-ti)
* Focus Studies
* Thought Insertion
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/focus-studies/thought-injection](https://www.reddit.com/r/ClarityTI/wiki/index/topiclist/focus-studies/thought-injection)
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>>41224214
Praying the famous Our Father prayer and asking Jesus to remove vexes, hexes, spells, curses worked for other TIs who subsequently got out of targeting.
In fact, the only TIs who have come oit of targeting got out of it by using the Christian method. These are the only cases where targeting was ended by the TI. This is a zero cost solution to the targeting. These prayers and the repentance exercise above work even for non-Christians.
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>>41224844
Targeting is not a mental health disease. Google the symptoms of "Demonic oppression", these are identical to what the TIs experience.

If you google "causes of demonic oppression", one of them is curses and occult attacks. And isn't this kind of occult magic that the glownigger bosses and the satanist military leaders were into?
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>>41228245
It can be and one doesn't exclude the other.
Oh no we can't use tech on this guy because he's a schizo.
When does high heat give you burning scars on your skin? When does voice to skull cause tinnitus?
I believe the GS community is for those where strange things are happening (paranormal) but they refuse to blame it on some kind of ancient, evil goblin.
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>>41228383
Voice to skull : demons communicating telepathically.
Burning sensation on thr skin: a well know symptom of demonic attacks.
Gangstalkers throw the occult attack curses on the TI. It is not just about following the TI to scare them. They have to be in close proximity for these attacks to be effective.
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>>41228547
Gangstalkers only have forensics to fear. If it's ever discovered it's over forever. They will have to go back to hacking facebooks and cat calling the TI in the street. Demonic possession is just another non-forensic theory unless you can prove the existence of demons.



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