How do materialists and consciousness comes from the brain retards explain brainlets?
>>41219016those are unironically the brainlets
Consciousness has no shape/form/edge...it is therefore Omnipresent.I subscribe to panpsychism myself, and absolutely agree consciousness cannot be created by anything (brain esp.)Only conciosness itself can be conscious...only awareness itself can be aware."I am aware" and "I am conscious" means...you ARE awareness/consciousness itself
I think it makes more sense that the brain/DNA are just antennas for a specific consciousness unit (soul) to tune in. This would give the illusion of the brain creating consciousness when you monitor the brain or alter it with lobotomy since you'd be observing what's essentially a portable radio unit functioning while it's receiving a signal from elsewhere
>>41219016>90% of brain missing He better find it
BRAIN DONT EXIST UNTIL U CRACK OPEN SKULL
>>41219835>schrodinger's skullQuantum pilled
>>41219016Hey that's the guy from /ptg/ (President Drump General on /pol/) who keeps posting "awoo".
>>41219843good bot
>>41219835Double slit experiment
>>41219016How do you explain it?Why are you placing all responsibility to explain consciousness on "materialists?"Is this a tacit admission that you only seriously expect materialism to be able to explain it?"It's magic and God" isn't an explanation.Trying to tear down another belief doesn't prove yours.How about actually trying to argue and support your own claims?>Buh that's haaaard!
>>41219842>>41220196
>>41220212>Using a materialistic metaphor of a "receiver"Scratch an anti-materialist, find a materialist.
>>41220217He's a scientist after all. If he wanted to be a spiritist he would have to work outside of academia.
>>41220213Let's say cosmic now
>>41219842>>41220196>>41220213Holy reddit!
>>41220230I was making a more general comment about how the anti-materialists here use materialist concepts.Even the idea of different "dimensions" or "realms" such as heaven and hell is rooted in material experience: rooms in a building or fenced / demarcated land."Spiritual energy" is often talked about in substance terms. It can be "drained" or "replenished."Using metaphors to speculate isn't enough. For one metaphors are by nature incongruent comparisons, and they are frequently wrong.
>>41220237I'm kind of a cosmic person myself...
>>41220251>Even the idea of different "dimensions" or "realms" such as heaven and hell is rooted in material experiencePhenomena can be immaterial. Like when you dream the world around you is not a material place but still a phenomenal reality. To get rid of all phenomena entirely would cost us all reference points.
>>41220264But that phenomenal reality is spacio-temporal and comprised of experiences that greatly mirror and reference waking reality.My point is that referencing the material is unavoidable. There is no justification for a dualistic split.
>>41220300>My point is that referencing the material is unavoidable. There is no justification for a dualistic split.Hm...
>>41219016Most people don't use their brains to think, instead mimicking complex movements based entirly on perceived sensations. That's why when these people eventually fall into the trap of marijuana, as everyone who have ever done it before fhem had, they become crippled and unable to function, as it dulls their ability to mimic.
Who says the brain does the thinking besides a bunch of antichrist scientists?
>>4122035799.99% of modern people.
>>41219016Amazing stuff, but it doesn't refute the brain as the centre of consciousness (any further than can already be done through religious diatribe). Compare hydanencephaly (the folded top of the brain cortex fails to develop at all) with hydrocephaly (events where too much fluid accumulates in a working brain over time). Can you guess which one of these is marked with severe problems in development, and which is the one where people appear "normal" (at time of diagnosis)?One situation is "will these marbles collapse if I reduce this structure", the other is simply: "no marbles at all". Picrel.> Hydranencephaly"Hydranencephaly is a rare congenital central nervous system disorder occurring in 1 in 10,000 births and reported in 0.2% of infant autopsies.1,2It is characterized by the complete or near-complete absence of the cerebral cortex and basal ganglia with preservation of the thalami and brainstem.3,4This condition is believed to arise from the intrauterine occlusion of the bilateral supraclinoid internal carotid arteries, leading to resorption of cerebral tissue typically supplied by the anterior circulation.3, 4, 5, 6 Because of the arrested development of the bilateral cortices, patients with hydranencephaly present with severe developmental delays, spastic diplegia, visual impairment, and convulsive episodes, predominantly of the myoclonic type.7"https://doi.org/10.1016/j.wneu.2020.09.029
>>41220378ok chatgpt
>>41220378>the brain as the centre of consciousness The soul is in the heart. That's common spiritual knowledge.
>>41220382It'd be a lot easier to script a bot to give your response than mine. I'm happy with my contribution.
>>41220389> Common spiritual knowledgeOf course, and that's why we all regularly bleed ourselves to balance our humours.
The memes written themselves.
>>41220212>75IQ>raised a family>passing his empty skull genes aheadKek, this world is broken beyond repair. May the machines overrun humanity. Jabbed, tagged and bagged.
>>41220240>quantum mechanics is le reddit No You’re just retarded
>>41220212>retard with 95% water in his head gets married, has kids and job>me with highest test scores in most of my classes still jobless and singlelife is funny
>>41220636I hear you brother, shit's fuckedkeep fighting, for some of us, it seems as though the world is stacked against us, and the best we can do is tell it to fuck off and do it
Brainlets stay winning, probably doesn’t over think things as much as us big brains
>>41220668this, I can safely say that overthinking doesn't necessarily make you smaht but it can paralyze you with useless noiseGod punished me twice by making me a brainlet that overthinks, worst fucking combination
>>41220410>brainlets existThe cat-scan looks a lot like the meme too
>>41219016Shit like this exists and people still believe consciousness is produced by and contained in the physical brain.
>>41219016he wasn't missing any of his brain, it was just pushed to the outside of his skull by Hydrocephalus his entire brain is still there, just squished, but still functional
>>41221447>not missing it’s just in a smaller spaceYou’re a fucking brainlet Kek
>>41219835HOLY SHIT
>>41221335But the brainlet is still stupid. 75IQ is dumber than an ape.
>>41220616"redditor" means the quantification of something that noone needed quantifying
>>41219016happier than you and me
>>41220650>based advice keep bring you anon
>>41219016If you have a complete brain in this world you're living an abnormal life.
>>41219016Consciousness is evidence of a creator. He has had many names, but the name you should be trying to find is the name of his son.
>>41220251There's just no vocabulary for a lot of these non-material things since the concept is underdeveloped. And referencing material items as a metaphor isn't nonsensical if it gets the point across
>>41220350I'd even say that the few people who do use their brain to think still relies on automated reflexes for 95% of their daily activities since conscious control is very slow and causes a lot of fatigue
>>41221447What would happen if you slap his head? Would he fall into a coma or something lol
>>41219016People living normal lives with half a brain doesn’t prove consciousness can’t be material.Consciousness isn’t tied to any particular spot of the brain. It’s an emergent property of the entire system’s structure and dynamics. What matters is the pattern of information processing. For a system to be conscious, it has to:> contain information about itself or the world> unify that information into a coherent whole> maintain relative independence from outside interference> sustain stable patterns of processing over timeAs long as the remaining brain network can still meet those requirements, consciousness persists.Also this >>41221447 is true.
>>41220378So he lost his marbles?
>>41219775Interesting theory
DNA can house tons of information right?Maybe his body packed it all up into blood and into what's left of his brainCrazyI'm glad he's alright anywayMan even the language center and all thatI wonder what his long term memory storage is likeIf he remembers his youth wellAnd if he can speculateDream usual visual contextCuriouser and curiouser by the dayIts a shame that they would likely use the dataDerived to harm everyone else
>>41220636Jobs and relationships aren't everything. They don't make you a better person
>>41226322Disagree. Relationships and job are definitely things that make you a better person. Having rich relationships is transformative. And a job can change everything about you, for example a soldier. What kind of person is a soldier. Or a rich business owner. What kind of person is that? Wether you think it’s a better or worse person is subjective, the point is that it has an impact on the quality of the person.
>>41226196That’s Bentov’s theory of fundamental consciousness. Notably different from Donald hoffmans theory of fundamental consciousness. People like to conflate the two though because they don’t really know what they are talking about when they say fundamental consciousness or what the implications are philosophically in relation to their other beliefs. They aren’t always coherent.
>>41226322>>41226416Physical wellnessIntellectual wellnessEmotional wellness Spiritual wellnessSocial wellness (that’s relationships)Occupational wellness (that’s your job)You could also add financial wellness All of these categories have the potential to make you a better person if by better it means you are happier and fullfilled.
>>41226322They’re just 2 metrics of success but yes you’re right that they don’t make someone a “better person”The thing is I’m not trying to be better than anyone. I just want some pussy and money
>>41226106>Consciousness isn’t tied to any particular spot of the brain. It’s an emergent property of the entire system’s structure and dynamics.Possibly, but not confirmed.
>>41226491>migga biscuit pictured
>>41224077Iit is also the average iq of the fullbrained african...
