What is the best help/advice/wisdom you have about coming to terms with death? It's gobbled up my entire being, the sheer horror of it. I'm intensely schizoid personality disorder. My whole life is defined by endless psychic blockages. How to transcend/sublimate it? Psychedelics? I am EXTREMELY rigid and stubborn. I think it might be a good fit.
>>41232534The contents of your consciousness are your current experiences (I see, I hear, I feel, I think). Seeing, hearing, feeling, or perceiving through any other sense is a process of mental modeling, a simulation of reality. Our brain maintains an up-to-date model of what’s going on in the world (awareness) and predicts what may happen in the future.Awareness in biological organisms is a function of the brain. The sensory organs detect information (light, sound, heat, texture, odor) in the world and transmit it to the brain. The brain interprets the information and synthesizes/simulates it into a conception of what is happening in the outside world. Awareness gets the information and synthesizes it.So what is death? It's just stopping having experience. And what it is like? It's like going to sleep: there is no stable external source of stimulation from which to build your experiential world. And the brain itself can't provide internally multisensory world to experience (like in dreams) because it's seizing to function.
>>41232534Yeah sure do drugs I don't care
>>41232790physicalist nonsense.kek, even under physicalism, death is an impossibility, consciousness can never end.
>>41232534Psychedelics help, years of daily meditation practice will too but reading NDE books like life after life by Dr Ray Moody really helped me. Smoking DMT was probably the most effective therapy 20 minutes could ever provide >>41232804Cry some more about it
>>41232790>brainlet post
>>41232815>under physicalism, death is an impossibilityand what about people who shot dead in the fucking head? i guess they didn't die. yep, death is impossible
>>41232827The soul is eternal dummy
>>41232820Ok if you say so, drugs basically fucked up my life, and yes that includes psychedelics
>>41232534you are just a meat antenna, the signal doesn't stop just because the radio is turned off.
>>41232827they objectively died, ie from your point of view, yes, they are dead.however, subjectively, they didn't, from their own point of view, they are still conscious / experiencing.btw you can prove that even assuming physicalism.even though physicalism is a broken framework and consciousness is fundamental.
>>41232857>subjectively, they didn'tand what did they? dance fucking yoo-hoo? no experience = no consciousness. before you were born you didn't have consciousness, right? it's literallyt the same with death
>>41232832if you mean by soul their ideas, words etc. then sure, other people could have their ideas, they could have left books written by them, other things.because if not, what do you mean by a "soul", dumb dumb? their inner world? with death of their brain there is no more inner world of theirs.
>>41232534Worship the Lord. Jesus is speaking to you always.
The only thing bad about dying is your loved ones losing you, but nothing about death should worry you. None of the options are scary except for hell which mostly isn't even biblical, it's a melancholy existence away from God/The source but it's not torture and burning like depicted in the media because of Dante's inferno. Even still, this can be avoided by simply accepting Jesus Christ and going to heaven. Even if the biblical God isn't real the other options aren't even bad.>nothing happens and you cease to exist>you return to the source and are part of the universe as a whole/collective consciousness>some other form of zen like state similar to biblical heaven>reincarnation/soul trap in which you are rebornJust stop being a pussy, not saying you should run to death but acceptance isn't that hard
You cannot die. You are an immortal infinity. The bit you mistake for being you can however die.Which is the point I am making. Death from the point of view of the person “experiencing it” is like a massive misconception.The was a point in history were you were not “you”. And there will be a point were you are not “you” again. However there’s further misconceptions there. Being that there is no linear time. In all of a timeline of existence….when and where is the little flash of existence that you consider to be your “life” exactly?Now don’t get me wrong buddy, don’t let this freak you out. Because most important for you as someone who is terrified of death is to be grounded. Because your ego, the part of you that thinks it can die, is closely connected to your nervous system. And that can create feedback loops of fear and anxiety. Just ground yourself, spend time in nature, flow with things. Enjoy life. Create and have fun. Try some somatic exercises. Breathe and meditate. Just be in the moment. There is only the eternal now.
>>41232904> no experience = no consciousnessfalse again, you can have a consciouss experience with no content of experience> before you were born you didn't have consciousness, right? and from nothing you started being, and thus, again from nothing you will be again.you assume physicalism so i'm gonna play your game, under physicalism, the only thing that creates your consciousness is your brain, the only thing that matters is functional equivalence to your brain, i could prove to you that continuity is irrelevant.anyway, your brain, in its exact state it is right now, if there is a single infinity, be it in size of the universe, time, or parallel universe, you are guaranteed to have infinite copies of it.but what makes you you is not the exact state of your brain, ie, you could lose memories, burn a bunch of neurons and still be you, you can change a lot of things before it's no longer you.so sure, you die, an exact copy of your brain will exist sometime, or somewhere, from your point of view you'll be there.picrel.
>>41232904secondly, i'll add that physicalism is bullshit and has been disproven many times already.
>>41233009>you can have a consciouss experience with no content of experiencebig brains, how did you came to such conclusion? some schizos told you? or you found out yourself?>you assume physicalismi don't assume anything anon. i'm just stating facts. i don't like limiting my thinking with one and only true "philosophy">bla-bla its exact state bla-bla single infinity bla-bla guaranteed to have infinite copies of itdo you even yourself understand what you wrote??? anyway, who "guarantees" this, you?>>41233012>it's bullshit. why?>aaaa because someone disproven this. yes-yes, it was disproven a lot of timesgo read your bible. your comment is irrelevant to my argument. if my argument is wrong, then explain why. no experience = no consciousness, still holds.
>>41233066> big brains, how did you came to such conclusion?by experiencing it myself through altered states of consciousness.> i don't assume anything anon. i'm just stating facts. i don't like limiting my thinking with one and only true "philosophy"me neither, which is why i know physicalism is wrong, it is a framework that breaks itself and is not consistent with empirical evidence, nor my personal experiences.> do you even yourself understand what you wrote??? anyway, who "guarantees" this, you?this would be a very long debate, but yes, under physicalism, by definition all that defines you is your brain, thus an exact copy of your brain would be you.> go read your biblei'm not a christcuck retard.if you realy care about learning something idk, go look the work of bernardo kastrup on analytical idealism, he has a 2 part lecture called "refuting materialsim" and "a case for idealism".https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPCvQQQrZwUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mar2X6bvid4it covers the whole subject.
>>41233114your personal experience is just cherry-picking and an anecdotal example. some christians too had an religious personal experience that they use to prove their god exist. so does it prove anything? noanyway, i'm already reading bernardo kastrup. sure, interesting ideas, but it still one point of view that can be debated. and he too has things i disagree with
>>41233148nah, i won't go on explaining all my life, i'm not talking about coincidences, but things that couldn't have happened under physicalism, and i have other people witness of these events.it's not something that can be cherry picked or even me being schizo because other people confirm that it happened.besides that there are the statistically significant events like synchronicities etc, but those are more of a hint than concrete proof.> muh annecdotalno shit i'm talking about my personal experience.if you hate an egg yesterday, had your girlfriend to confirm that you did in fact eat an egg, an egg is missing from your egg tray and you still have the dirty dish with egg leftovers, you would know with absolute certainty that you in fact did eat an egg, you would however have no way to prove it to me, that still doesn't mean you didn't eat an egg.> and he too has things i disagree withlikewise, i don't fully agree with all his views, but i do like his way of talking.my point is that there are tons of physicalists that go like it's a settled science that physicalism is true etc, when they shouldn't be so sure about that, that we start to have many evidence to the contrary and that if you look at modern physics, we are getting futher and futher from something you can even call physicalism, ie qm, bell experiments etc.anyway, it's one thing that someone truely believes in physicalism, it's another to try to spread it like gospel and call anyone that disagree with you dumb, crazy or delusional when there are tons of rational arguments against it without even taking into account people's experiences.
>>41232834Sounds like you’re a faggot who blames your shitty life on external circumstances.>someone does drugs: cool experience time to move on>you do drugs: it fucked up my life No you fucked up your life. Stop giving chemicals the ability to fuck up your life stupid faggot
>>41232909>what is a soulLiterally google it stupid bitch
>>41232534"Death" is an English word. It's a social concept - that's all it is; nothing more. Death is a mirage seen by multiple people throughout history, and so there are many stories about it.It might be useful to contemplate the other mirages that surround you. Cultural mirages, mirages you've made for yourself to protect your psyche, and even the mirage of the mind itself. If time is a mirage of attention, learning to shift your focus may be fruitful.
