How to do it? People claim magick works so why no occultists ever just won a lottery?
>>41234302Just do like India does, and buy up one of every possible number combination using teams across America.
>>41234302Because magic doesn't exist and this is a LARP board. Faggots can't even unanimously agree on what magic is.
>>41234302I have tho
>>41234580No you haven't anon
>>41234302>How to do it?Just be lucky, its not that hard
most of these jackpot lotteries have been proven to be rigged with pre-planned winners who many times are government workers who just happen to donate all their winnings back to their government once they win. Yes i know some are real but majority of the time it's just money laundering especially for the big ones that are in the millions.
>>41234302>so why no occultists ever just won a lotteryIt's hard because you go against consensus reality of millions of people, especially hordes of those hoping they'll be the ones to win.And even if you would somehow win, it draws attention you may want to avoid.Most spiritual progress both results in and requires distancing oneself from material gains, be it fame, fortune or satisfaction of other carnal desires - so occultists most capable of winning such lottery often are the ones least interested.On top of that, the ones who aren't stupid, would rather ensure stability, including financial, though more mundane means. Shitloads of adepts are on early retirement from some small company they've built up or saved cash from years of effective work.People watched too much fantasy and think magic is doing flashy audiovisuals. In reality, why some acquire curious abilities as a side effect, magic is not what you do and who you are. Proficient practitioners don't cast many spells, they go through life living simply and keeping to themselves, trying to make as few ways as possible and in response the world caters to their needs through synchronicity.
>>41234981Messed up some sentences, wrong words were picked up:>In reality, why some acquire curious abilitieswhile some*>magic is not what you do and who you are.but who*>trying to make as few waysfew waves*Apologies.
>>41234972From where I live, there is a lotto shop close by who is constantly winning big prizes every few months. I always have found it very suspicious, like there's never any mention of the neighbors there winning anything, not even a whisper or a rumour that they just went to live somewhere else better, nothing.
>>41234302>nooooooooo that's materialism you're supposed to use it to gain gnosis/enlightenment you can't do it like that noooooooo
>>41235032Kinda, but it's circular catch.Those who want to develop spiritual authority and associated powers are unable to do so while being rooted in and controlled by material desires. You cannot reach the heavens being weighted down by earthly.Those who develop in such a way then have no reason to change it - they already get what they need and would rather not devolve.
>>41234981>they can do it but they are not interestedthis old cope again
>>41234981so what are the goals/benefits of occult practicioners. everyone i heard about ended up as a junkie/clown/miserable
>>41235162The ones with charisma and luck end up rich (Neville Goddard, Joseph Murphy, for putting some examples), and the ones who lack those end up just like you have heard they end up
>>41235183actually makes sense, I think ron l hubbard was probably the most successful occultist of the 20th century, although he was evil
>>41235226>creator of scientologyMost succesful by a long shot, and the most evil in the long term as well
>>41234302If you had the ability to win the lottery with magic you would probably already have found something better to do with your ability. Seriously. When you play the lottery you are going against a crowd of up to 100 million other people all trying to win the lottery. Meaning your magic has to over come their collective desire and will to win. With that kind of power you would have much more interesting things to do.
>>41234302Because doing that gets you killed.
>>41235286>Meaning your magic has to over come their collective desire and will to win. With that kind of power you would have much more interesting things to do.like what
>>41234302Like money is the end all be all. Nah, man, pussy is...
>>41235395Damn him!!!
>>41235395Oh, he wants to go there, eh?
>>41235395Justin knows I'm correct
>>41235395>doomed
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Jannies can you get rid of the thread shitter? How many times do i have to report him?
>>41235162It's not for this life, but more so for getting in tune with your infinite omnidimensional consciousness and your true desires. Material desires are mostly fear driven which makes them out of step with your true infinite being. That's why so many people get what they felt like they wanted and still remain empty.
>>41234302Has it ever? Seems like the common stereotype is that the local fortune teller/witch always lives in some shitty shack on the outskirts of town. If the fortune teller lives in a giant mansion, then I would believe they have the ability to divine lottery numbers.
>>41234972Primarily this.>>41234302Secondarily this: >>41234981Magick works by altering reality. Altering reality which has been technologically observed is impossible. Altering the consensus reality of two or more conscious beings is harder the more consciousnesses must be affected for the magickan to have the end effects.Therefore the most effective form of magick is the one the practicioner casts on himself. By pursuing occult knowledge and spiritual practices, the magickan grows, and if the goal of the magickan is to attract fortune, his effects would appear to the external world as the magickan being a hardworking, upstanding member of society.
>>41234302Lotteries actually hire capable and competent occultists to create noise around RNG so it stops like 99,9% of amateur tries.
>>41235067Cope or not, that is how it works. It makes sense - why would you even be allowed, yet alone able, to seek spiritual mastery if you are thinking like an - albeit developed - animal, prioritizing material goals? It literally messes with your progress and I suspect is one of the reason while many of the people who do develop siddhi etc are quite religious and, well, spiritual while those just thinking it's cheat codes for wealth, sex and fame either have no success with magic or get screwed over sometime later.Sorry it's not your fantasy secret way of getting shit.>>41235162Many benefits, from powers, through health to world providing you with opportunities to earn what you need via synchronicity - are secondary and unreliable. Most occult/religious/spiritual traditions concentrate on self-refinement, with the goal to maintain form, independence and perhaps even rise over need of material existence altogether and escape from the cycle of reincarnation.
When you are in the state whereby you can commit miracles….money is the furthest thing from your mind.
>>41234981>hard because you go against consensus reality of millions of people>>41235286>going against a crowd of up to 100 million other people all trying to win the lotteryThis makes sense only if magic is about taking control of events against the will of others.However, I believe that magic actually makes you go to the reality where you wish happens, that it's about choosing your path and not changing the world, because all realities possible exist at same time, even if of course from your point of view it looks like you made something happen instead. In this case it should not matter at all that other people wish to win too, every single person could each go to the reality where they win, and they would all be the single winner, all at same time. It doesn't happen though, so my theory may be wrong.
Clock times, you have to get seven times the same number like 12:12 then you can play the same numbers to eurojackpot or lotto and win jackpot
>>41234911NTA but I've actually won it
>>41234302The lottery employs counter magic, obviously.
>>41234302You can't directly, the lottery is fake and gay, it's a money laundering scheme to pay feds and spies.You could potentially mind control the people deciding who to pay if you can find their names.
>>41234981>Most spiritual progress both results in and requires distancing oneself from material gains, be it fame, fortune or satisfaction of other carnal desiresNo it doesn't, that's just want incel monks tell themselves to feel special.
>>41234302there was a law of attraction guy who did win a jackpot, not a poster here but i remember seeing his twitter awhile back, dont remember his name. this reminds me there was this woman who also kept winning competitions with some sort of similar practice, also dont remember her name. im sure youll find both if you want.
>>41241669Was it real though, or was it yet another case of "I won a lot of money using my method, buy my book to learn about it and do the same".
>This makes sense only if magic is about taking control of events against the will of others.Depending on what you want to do and how it is.>However, I believe that magic actually makes you go to the reality where you wish happens>It doesn't happen though, so my theory may be wrong.I reckon it is, barring everyone getting their win, just not appearing as a winner from standpoint of others - but then it wouldn't explainthere being winners known by everyone who loses so yeah, your idea seems very flawed and less of a belief stemming from practice as much as idle wondering.>>41241308It does. Every occultist mired in pursuit in material without it being a tiny part of much bigger personality inevitably either:- didn't manage to achieve anything- became tangled in relations/dependencies on other entitles- paid considerable price- effectively stalled at best, devolved otherwise in his spiritual developmentThe few potential exceptions.. aren't - they either were one of the above, or their outlook and approach to the material was changed so severely outside of typical that they merely appeared as greedy or wealth/power/etc-oriented to outside observer.An occultist can pursue mundane boons, but it won't be out of base lusts if he wants to avoid risks. I myself acquired a so-far very comfortable job under highly unlikely and coincidential circumstances, without looking for it and after some time of declaring privately I need money, but it wasn't millions out of greed and lust for luxury, but humble means to be able to do something hardly as self-indulging yet necessary.
>buy lottery ticket>waitthat's pretty much all there's to it, dr dahesh was able to turn even losing tickets into winning ones. so you might go to your friendly neighborhood reality wizard godlike being thing and ask him to give you a winning lottery ticket.
>>41242046Bruh, if you can't furiously jerk is 24/7 and still astral project with continual advances spiritually you're too weak for the big stuff. The point is nofap is retarded, it's a dead-end in terms of enlightenment because it's a totally distinct thing, you don't gain power with that shit, you don't even leak it substantially less.
>>41242069I'd like to know more about this man who mastered the art of revision/retrocausality.
>>41242631dr dahesh was crazy powerful, he was venerated by a cult in the middle east and there are multiple reliable testimonies of the miracles he had worked. these include bilocation where he had been seen in multiple locations at the same time and even reincarnation (iirc the cult in question is also capable of reincarnation and is not currently accepting new members).https://youtu.be/yv0xUIPrfQU?si=JMTt1y6VyU2r-xTC&t=1628https://www.daheshism.com/index.php/dr-dahesh/miracles/miracles-dr-dahesh.html
>>41241908i think it was confirmed yeah, i dont remember him selling anything
>>41234302Learn from the master:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X4iJXAlBYo
>>41237846And what happens to the me in the other reality? does he get displaced to here? That's not very nice.
you can't predict entirely random things because there's no logic to apply
>>41242665Wow, I read this and other pages about him, and man that's totally crazy. 8| We should have a thread about him. I read that his books are only in arabic but someone with a paid AI account could translate them.
>>41244123>what happens to the me in the other reality?I don't think anybody can know for sure. Some think that, yes, it's a swap. But maybe there is only one conscious you, and other yous are sort of non playable characters or something. Or maybe other realities only exist as potential and they really exist only when you live inside them, so only one reality for you is real at a time.
>>41244128Lotteries are not really random though, they are just impossible to guess for a human, just like when you flip a coin or roll a dice.
>>41234302winners are chosen by the lodgegood people do not get worldly wealtha gilded life is an obvious crimson flag to those with eyes to seegold is the devil's reward for doing what he wants and poverty is how he punishes those of us who refuse him so as to shame and humiliate us
this life is a test and billions of you have failedthe wages of sin are death
I'm not used to lottery tickets I live in a very big city. Let's say I overlap some sacred geometry or symbol on the map of the city to somehow align in some parts of it, if I would locate lottery shops in the proximity of the focal points of the holy symbol would I have a chance to win? Which symbol do you suggest? Should I also invent a ritual ?
>>41244627The way I understand it, you make the guess some days prior to the drawing of the numbers, so you hve no access to the relevant information for the mechanics either way.
