How come there's never surfaced any photos of labs or setups for making LSD?Its one of the most well kept 'secrets' in history? Just crazy there's no knowledge of how it's made(to be clear I have found synthesis instructions online, but that doesn't really explain much, you would think there's at least pictures from the 60s when they had huge underground production in the US)Anyways, post your lsd photos here
>>41244329The CIA is producing it since the 60s.
>>41244385
There are probably fewer than 5 people worldwide who know how to make actual LSD.You need more skills and more specific equipment than your average meth lab.
>>41244425There are far more than five but there are probably only five that would both risk it and be capable of getting away with it. The rest have legit jobs doing better things.
>>41244329there are heres another secret lsd is a little complicated but what its made from that makes you trip lysergic acid is extremely easy to extract
>>41244425>concludes that lsd is a pyramid schemeWell there's also legal analogues like 1P-LSD, so no there's not just 5 people making it
>>41244329If you want to know what kind of person actually makes LSD, google William Leonard Pickard or maybe read his book "The Rose Of Paracelsus".Protip: it ain't you.
>>41244591CCP Research Chemicals made from caustic battery acid don't count, anon.
do you guys think it's still made in Sweden?
>>41244604There's probably statistically at least ONE lab still in operation. Actual LSD-25 is very hard to synthesize properly and you have to be an actual legitimate chemist to do so.
>>41244604California, Sweden, and the Netherlands are probably the only legitimate producers. The psychedelic family from the West Coast made enough doses for a few generations.
>>41244603it all comes from plants then is converted via analogue lysergic acid is extremely easy to extract from certain seeds
idk why anyone isn't posting actual photos, here's one of a sheet of LSD, DOM tabs, and DOBthe white powder is an opiod
>>41244591There are plenty of legit chemist the COULD make it, but probably very few that actually DO make it. It's a pretty risky operation, from what i have read. I think the stuff is good medicine used properly, but thanks to people like the weathermen the government really does not want you to take it.
>>41244425>>41244425bro you act like its hard to get lol.
>>41244623these are actually fire, I thought they were weak until I combined a little DOB with one tab and it gave me a great trip (still letting my mind process it)has anyone considered the possibility that LSD comes from fiction, a cartoon character would hand you a vial while you're deep in a tripsomething like this happened to me once, but I didn't actually get any 'free drugs' I just woke up one morning and there was gum stuck to my bed everywhere in the shapes of faces etcI should have taken photos desuMaybe we'll never find where the path leads
>>41244635what do you mean the weathermanalso consider maybe there's easier psychedelics like DOB, 2C-B, NBOMEOr maybe they just made a shit ton when they first synthesised it and the stuff we have today comes from the 60s etc when they originally made it
>>41244623Because i am not a filthy degenerate that would possess illegal drugs. I do read books about them though. DOM is pretty interesting, there's a chapter about it in Dr Shulgin's book 'PIHKAL'. interesting story. DOB is also one of Shulgin's discoveries. William Pickard studied chemistry under Shulgin at Berkley.
>>41244623What is up with lsd having all these designs, surely there's no reason for it
>>41244659I thought they were all synthesized by albert hoffman when he was working for the govt, like all research chems, analogs
>>41244329LSD I think is kinda simple to make but thilamide tartrate is illegal as fuck,
>>41244659>DOB, 2C-B, NBOMEThose molecules are fuckin disgusting kek.
>>41244659The weathermen were acid junkies that were legit domestic terrorists. While it is true that the CIA indulged in a lot of experiments with LSD, when everything was said and done they just saw it as the drug of choice for revolutionaries and that is why LSD is the most illegal shit there is, except maybe for plutonium. The amount of LSD required to get you a mandatory life sentence is tiny. Manufacture? They might let you out when you are 80 so they don't have to pay for your end of life care, like Pickard.
Maybe it has something to do with ai(2-CB from Germany)
>>41244677Lol I haven't tried NBOME yet but I'll prob do 25-NBOH eventually,You're saying their disgusting but the 25x were actually some of the last ones discovered, in the late 2000sNo reason something from 1930 is automatically better
>>41244610Augustus Owsley Stanley made his own stuff, back before it was illegal. He was the sound engineer for the Grateful Dead.
why can't anons work together to meet the producers and get some free tabs
>>41244329Because a lot of the street LSD is produced by individuals in university research labs en masse in a few days, sold to the distributors in crystaline form wholesale and then the distributors dilute it and soak tabs/make droppers. The reason you don't see something similar to a sketchy meth lab is because almost no one wants to risk the severe penalties for a schedule 1 drug that sells for next to nothing once it hits the street.
>>41244678Too much power. If everyone dropped acid at the same time, the system would collapse.
>>41244692The real challenge to making something like that is getting the precursors. There's only a few legit uses for them so they are very tightly controlled. Even having the chemistry knowledge does not mean one can procure the necessary materials. If you go trying to buy them the legit suppliers are required by law to snitch you out. It would appear to me the big players in that game have international connections that allow them to get things on the super down low.
>>41244702It does not even require everyone. Acid can instill zealotry in people in a powerful way. Religious people become religious zealots, secular people become ideological zealots. Just add acid to groupthink and it becomes a profound groupthink experience. It can instill resolve. I also read somewhere that long term studies showed that repeated acid use increased intelligence by an average of 10%.I used to approach the stuff as a sacrament of sorts. After Pickard got arrested it all disappeared and it has never been as plentiful since. That man made high quality product, too let me tell ya.
>>41244589Pickard's book was written while he was still incarcerated so I doubt the veracity of his story concerning his arrest. However it would seem to me he got busted because he had a terminal case of captain save a ho. He knew to get the fuck away from a villain but lingered because he thought he could save the guy's stripper druggie girlfriend.
>>41244385If that were true I would be able to find some.
>>41244723Or maybe they have government clearance/connections
>>41244752Interestingly one time I took acid at like 3am before my 8am college lecture, and when I showed up I definitely felt like people were onto me, the professor kept making weird pauses and walked into my sector of the seating making insinuation like he or everyone could tell something was up. He kept doing the Elon-Musk-looking-up-and-to-the-right thing>"there's a intruder among us"
>>41244667The designs on LSD blotters are not a frivolous choice. They emerged from a need for practicality (dosing), stealth (avoiding law enforcement), and branding (building a reputation in an illegal market). Over time, they evolved into a rich cultural artifact of the psychedelic movement. But in today's world, the art is purely a delivery vehicle and a marketing tool, carrying no reliable information about what chemical is actually on the paper.
>>41245002LSD can make your consciousness bleed and I'm sure a professor lecturer has been exposed to it many times. So yes he probably knew you were tripping and was having a laugh at your negligence of attending lecture while stoned but didn't narc out of respect. That and/or you were tripping and felt paranoid which is common.
Ive always wondered if the entire tab sheet gets submerged in the acid or if someone individually uses a dropped on each tab in the sheet
>>41244329>Why aren't people photographing their illegal drug labsGee officer, I don't know.
>>41245107You can do it either way. For small scale you generally just toss a 9by piece of blotter paper (300 hits by 300 hits size) in a Pyrex dish and squirt your diluted 10pack over it. Smear the paper around good, check for uniformity with a blacklight if you wanna get fancy, then tilt the pyrex, hit it with more alcohol, and suck anything left out of the corner with your empty 10 pack (usually a vizene or similar plastic dropper type bottle). This is called "wash". Sometimes it's strong and sometimes it's not, just depending on the strength of the actual crystal in your 10pack and how much you've diluted it. Then some weirdo always licks the pyrex afterwards.Or, so I've been told.
>>41246119For really small scale you can just drop fully diluted liquid on to paper. Idk about individually trying to get 1 drop per paper hit, lol, but it's easy enough to saturate it well by eyeball. Again, you can check with a blacklight and see if there are areas that don't light up well (weak spots).Back in the 90's, people on tour or with family connections didn't just roll around with sheets pre made. It degrades faster that way and there were carrier weight laws. People kept crystal, then weighed it out and laid it before selling it. A 10 pack is I think 10 mgs diluted? Its an amount you can actually weigh with a jewlers scale lol. It theoretically makes 1000, 100 microgram hits, though there some was more pure than other stuff. Needlepoint was the purest, white fluff/white cloud was great too. Brownish crystals were also common, weaker, and more prone to gritty jaw clenching. There was never much price difference though and unless you saw the crystal or could see dinginess in an everclear 10 pack, it was hard to tell visually. People used Bacardi 151 which looks a bit dingy in a small bottle and can leave discoloration in blotter paper.A premixed 10pack was a common way to buy if you had a family connection. It went for around $150 in the late 90's US. (East or West coast).
>>41246205Idk if geltabs are still a thing but, people used to mix acid into a diluted gelatin mixture, pour it on the dimply side of a drop in florescent light diffuser (like office buildings), and move it around til it was laying evenly. After drying, it (mostly) broke apart into uniform squares. I think there may have been a lot of dosage variation with that method though. The thinner/deformed stuff on the edges was called edging and was usually given away to the people selling it. I knew someone that lost their shit on free edging and I watched people take similar doses of the same geltabs with wildly different results.In the end , it's just the strength, dilution rate, and consistency on the medium of the crystals. A properly diluted 10 pack dropped on candy or something in front of you will always be the most consistent. It's not as mysterious as it might seem.
>>41244329If the knowledge got out, there would be mass dosing. Ever time I dose I realize just how fucked society is. And every time I have the same “if everyone experienced this we could solve so many problems.” Our whole capitalistic society would be turned on its head if someone dosed a water supply line. Wanna fix the world? Dose em’
>>41246362>dosed a water supply linehas this ever been done?
According to a rolling stone article most of the LSD on the west coast in the 90s was made by the AUM cult that nerve gassed the Tokyo subway
>>41244425>less than 5 people worldwideany chemistry grad student could make it what are you larping about
>>41245002i first time i took acid, i took like 120-180ug when i was 17 living in my parents house, mind you i weighed like 120 lbs, it was at 1 am. funniest thing was I happened to watch the first season of true detective, where the main character has residual effects and trips on the show. anyway, my folks didn't notice it anything though, i was an expert at public drug use at that point. i does make you think everybody knows if youre afraid of getting caught
>>41244677Don't even think about doing 25I-Nbome, fucking horrible drug. Had a horrible trip on it.https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/25I-NBOMe
>>41244781Recommend anyone with a brain to pick it up. I read it when it got released. It's dense but a good read. Bit too heavy on the victorian prose though but the guy seems to have lived quite an interesting life and he's a good enough pen. Obviously has an astronomical IQ 140+.
>>41244329its extracted from ergot fungus, thats it, no mystery. i could make lsd if i wanted to just cant be bothered.
>>41244329https://files.shroomery.org/attachments/7519781-PracticalLSDManufacture.pdf
>>41247383>In his 2009 book A Terrible Mistake, the investigative journalist Hank P. Albarelli Jr writes that the Special Operations Division of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) tested the use of LSD on the population of Pont-Saint-Esprit as part of its MKNAOMI biological warfare program, in a field test called "Project SPAN".[15] According to Albarelli, this is based on CIA documents held in the US National Archives and a document supplied to the 1975 Rockefeller Commission that investigated CIA activities.[20] The attribution of the poisoning to the CIA in Albarelli's book has been criticized.[19] Historian Steven Kaplan, author of an earlier book about the events, said that this would be "clinically incoherent: LSD takes effects in just a few hours, whereas the inhabitants showed symptoms only after 36 hours or more. Furthermore, LSD does not cause the digestive ailments or the vegetative effects described by the townspeople."[21] Kaplan made no reference to Hank Albarelli's assertion that mass dousing via aerosol spray had also happened in Pont-Saint-Espirit, which would negate the slow poisoning via grain supply contamination.[22] According to Mary's Mosaic by Peter Janney, the dispersal over the village took place using a crop-duster airplaine, as had happened elsewhere with U.S. Army aerosol tests over civilian neighbourhoods such as Operation LAC and related Army and CIA programs based at chemical and biological warfare laboratory of Fort Detrick, Maryland. For his assertions Albarelli uses transcript of a conversation between the CIA and the Swiss laboratory Sandoz, where LSD was invented, located 100 miles from Pont-Saint-Esprit in Switzerland.[22]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1951_Pont-Saint-Esprit_mass_poisoningThis is the closest we have ever been to a water supply dosed with lsd, as far as we know, of course
>>41244329It's actually very hard to make and takes a while. Meth is simpler and more profitable. Mushrooms are much easier if you want a hippie drug.
>>41244425>>41244572It's not that hard, I know I guy who could. We went over why is not worth it. Now if you could steal the precursor or have a bullshit reason to have it, that's another story. But to make it from scratch involves metric fuck ton of morning glory seeds and several tedious steps that you can easily fuck up and waste the whole batch.
I rode my motorcycle on lsd 3 times in my life and it's definitely a freeing scary feeling that makes you appreciate the fragility of life
>>41252345You need an entire warehouse full of real chemistry equipment (like a vacuum oven), this isn't meth in the bathtub. Then when you do make the shit it is so damn potent that unless you take extreme precautions everyone in the lab is going to get high as fuck
>>41244639LSD-25 is not 1P-LSD
>>41252361>I rode my motorcycle on lsd 3 times in my lifeWere these suicide attempts?
>>41252527Kinda
>>41244781"The Sunshine Makers" on Netflix was pretty good. It's follows Nick Sand and Tim Scully's career making orange sunshine. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4456270/
>>41252560Your not me and no I didn't die>>41252527Got to commune with the angel of death like Tibet used to when they danced on top of the monastery walls and spun swords. Had to go get donuts and carb up for the gym
