>there's no self or 'I">our buddhist leader has been reborn into 5 yr old kid in hills of tibetthis doesn't make any sense
>>41268814>reborn into 5 yr old kid Fucking nonce.
>>41268814Yeah I've never heard an adequate answer to this contradiction. What is the soul, if not the self?>>41268834kek
and the Vicar of Christ is Bob from Chicago organized religion will always be a joke, don't worry to much about it
>>41268814Ya know how they say all religions carry a fragment of the truth, or describing the same thing. Well they were referring to those eastern religions.>Definitely not the Abrahamic ones>my sidesBuddhism doesn’t believe in a soul. Hinduism kind of does. Jainism does. The reality is a combo, everything is connected and ever-evolving. So 1 soul but also many souls. Buddhism probably fastforwarded all the way to the end and saw some void, and settled on ‘no self’
>>41268814There's no PERMANENT self. Even that is debatable since anatta, or anATMAN, means not self or not Atman, meaning the five aggregates (form (physical body), feeling (sensation), perception, mental formations (volition), and consciousness.) are NOT self/Atman, as they are impermanent.
>>41268814>our buddhist leader has been reborn into 5 yr old kid in hills of tibetIf he were a spiritual master, wouldn't it make more sense that he doesn't come back from reincarnation?
>>41271423two more weeks
>>41270955>meditate on God>come to believe in soul and afterlife>meditate on void>come to believe in total nihilism and seek to destroy self and soul and afterlife
>>41271357>the buddha is a know-it-alllike his castrated fatass followers that just sit and hum all day hoping that china stops ass raping them? Maybe I will light myself on fire as a form of protest instead of protecting the people that are being harmed.>I'll be a martyr>A hero>A victim>A Meme>A celebrity>And a moronif you are chasing clout and can't admit you are just chasing clout do not bother me.>>41271407what iteration is this and how can we subvert it with numerology? If the US doesn't do it then China will.
>>41268814>>there's no self or 'I"The problem is that boddhists don't saythat, they say that the Self/I ISN'T THE ULTIMATE TRUTH.It sounds just play on words but isn't.
A lot of mysticism that gets it's start in psychopathy has such opposites as tenets. "Up is down, inside is outside, left is right." Psychopaths love the personality type that eat that up, and you'd be surprised.I'm not suggesting that Buddhist meditation has no merit. I'm simply saying Buddhist temples basically started as whore houses that employed young boys for those that lived in the temple and visited. It began as an exploitative or quickly became an exploitative venture. Other things like, "The one hand clapping," are also small signs that there's a psychopathic influence on the religion's origins.I'd be interesting to grow some more cells in people like that.
>>41271407> If he were a spiritual master, wouldn't it make more sense that he doesn't come back from reincarnation?He is a bodhisattva. They make vows to return to help others. Still begs the question as to how he returns without the concept of a soul. But that part is discussed elsewhere in this thread.
>>41268814they say dumb things so you start thinking there's got to be a deep meaning to it and it is very mystical and if you grasp at straws but the qrd is don't botherwhat a waste of a religion
>>41272968Yeah I'm going to sideye any religious cult that passes inversion of reality as wisdom"treat others as yourself" "be a slave to be free" "turn your other cheek"
>>41269294I'm partial to Thanissaro's ideas around this topic, which is that anatta should generally be translated as "not self" rather than "no self" and that the Buddha's position regarding the ultimate existence of some sort of underlying self was that both "there is a self" and "there is no self" are views that act as obstacles to enlightenment because they can't be held without clinging and because "however you define yourself, you limit yourself," which is something Thanissaro has said a few times.https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/TruthOfRebirth/Section0008.html>As part of his policy of not getting pinned down on issues of scale when presenting the process of rebirth, the Buddha was careful to avoid an issue that animated his contemporaries when they discussed rebirth: the metaphysics of what a person is, and what does or doesn’t get reborn after death.>In other words, he refused to explain whether any “what” underlay the experience of rebirth. He simply talked about how the experience happened and what could be done to end it.>In modern philosophy this approach is called phenomenology: talking about the phenomena of experience simply in terms of direct experience, without making reference to any underlying reality that may or may not stand behind that experience. The Buddha was a radical phenomenologist in that he dealt with experience on its own terms.https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/NobleStrategy/Section0014.htmlMaybe it still isn't the easiest idea to understand, but at least the way I've come to develop an intuition around it, it makes decent sense to me and seems to fit with everything else.I know Thanissaro is a bit controversial among Buddhists for his way of understanding it, but to me accepting "There is no self" point blank feels like the same sort of thing as typical Christian trinitarianism where any attempt at making it make sense it rejected as heresy and you're forced to either be buckbroken into accepting nonsense or leave.
>>41268814Buddhism is refuted by the fact that I can directly observe being this human and not someone else, which implies the existence of the "I".https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertiginous_question
Tibetan Buddhism is indeed a perversion of actual Buddhism.Same as all Christian religions are a perversion of the original Gnostic Christianity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDmmsMyjyLI
>>41273360>Tibetan BuddhismOh so that's why it was weird. Tibet and Dalai lama are bad vibes. They unironically had slavery until China liberated them.
>>41273387Yeah it's easy to confuse the two.Actual Buddism is based as fuck, you can get alot of good ideas from there.But in the end the best religion is one you made yourself from building blocks and ideas from other religions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DAYuunzBXQ
>>41273344It doesn't deny the existence of an "I" or ego.
>>41273286The Buddha's silence to the question if there's a soul is also an answer. If it can't be defined and defining it is an obstacle in and of itself, silence then become the right view.
>>41273574Yes it doeshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatt%C4%81
>>41273595No, it's like saying the sun and moon doesn't exist.
he simply put on another veil of incarnation
>>41273595i'm not a buddhist but buddhists say that all things transient are not real, only what is truly permanent is realhowever, buddhism also teaches that ultimately these teachings are just words to assist you on the path to the realization of ultimate reality and they acknowledge that past a certain point the only way forward is to discard all concepts and teachings
>>41275540All of the endless bickering and wordcelling around this stuff would stop if people would just shut up and meditate until they learned why everyone who actually meditates tells them to shut up.
>>41268814This is why Xenobuddhism is the only real path of sunyata
>>41276020We do not negotiate about Blowjobs.
