>>41274296
what eating from the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil does to a mfer

>>41274306
All it proves that you can have perfect free will without committing evil, according to religion. So innocent beings are suffering for absolutely no reason.

>>41274296
none of it is necessary.
if it were necessary, then everyone's child would have to be blown up.

but many people in the 1st world do not go through that.

>>41274296
if you start raping in heaven you just fall to a lower plane

Evil people do things to kids and free will is a thing. Maybe not with Angels and demons but I think they do chase these men and women that hurt kids and one day theyll suffer much worse

>>41274340
According to muslim and christian faith it is literally not possible to rape in heaven. You can't even decide to do that or think about it.

>>41274343
NOT the OP,

but I think the point of the post was moreso about extreme suffering not being necessary in order for free will to exist.

For example, is your free will non existent just because ear holes are not big enough for us to rape? Or what about the free will to go breathe underwater and live there? what about the free will to press a button on the back of someone's neck which changes their hair color?

>>41274348
state sponsored religion tends to have a lot of stupid dogma. protestant is an offshoot of state sponsored christianity (catholicism) and muhammed was a statesman

>>41274296

Good and Evil will always exist but when it is expressed through violence and harm, that's different, that's being sick.

The reality is "good" and "evil" exist because some prefer following something and building to a prophesy, or something planned. Others prefer to be on their own, develop on their own and grow into something they can only do with themselves.

It's just the latter is more responsibility, you have to control yourself.

There is in-betweens, but that isn't inherently an active "side" because it's for either those too hurt to move on in the moment, or those who are so shut off from growth retarded they want to believe they don't exist.


Good and Evil are opposing in this reality because it's fucking bait.

If you try to be some white knight who's perfect and absolutely a cocksucker, that can make you a sheep.

If you are a rouge that runs around doing whatever the fuck you want with little to no regard for others by your own intention, you are a monster, and you will be tamed as such until you decide to grow into something else.


Evil events exist because it propells us forward in the greater picture.

Rape unfortunately happens because people are sick and fucked up, no doubt.

I believe the unfortunate victims are also powerful bringers of knowledge, for all we know the spirits that are actively suffering, arranged to be witness amd victim, not because they wanted or deserved it, but because they can prevail, even if it takes a cycle or two of existence to fight and overcome, they discover and carve paths to recovery and understanding, so truly damaged souls can be healed and fixed.

Think a noble masochist.


This doesn't excuse rape, or the suffering anybody goes through. It doesn't excuse murder, and everything negative in interaction that we suffer and exist around.

But for some of it, there is a purpose. We can never know who volunteered and who is a victim of these unfortunate things, but no doubt they can be restored.

>>41274296
Evil doesn't 'exist'. It is born.
The same way saying shadows always exist. They don't. they come from light being present. Without light it's just dark, therefore no shadows to take form or shape.
in b4 some brainlet goes "DURRR DARK IS SHADOWS STUPID". Think of it the same way your "organs" just exist in the flesh bag you call a body. Remove the body. It's still organs. Just no shape holding it together.

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simple logic experiments disprove abrahamoids

>in heaven there is no sin
>how did lucifer rebel then?
>STOP ASKING QUESTIONS

also free will is not compatible with their omnipotent god so it is a deflection at best and deceit at worst by the christians

>>41274343
Where is the free will of the victims to be safe and unharmed?

Why does you god respect the free will of evil abusers but not the victims?

Tbh
If there's no pain there's no gain