Lads I’ve been using the O method and SATs again and already feel positive about the outcomes. I work on more “long term” manifestations so I don’t expect to get results immediately, within a year is how I’m feeling on some of them and within a few years for the others. Anyone else do long term manifestations and want to tell me your experiences with them?

I think this is bullshit because if it was true every kid would manifest Santa Claus into existence giving them a ps5 or a pony

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>>41287451
I'll tell you guys a secret to manifesting:

Just Relax

Literally just relax and be content as possible. You don't even have to think about your desire or act as if. Obsession isn't the problem, It's what you're obsessing over. Instead of obsessing about money and girls, just obsess over being in a state of relaxation and calm gentle happiness. You will naturally detatch and let go of your desire and eradicate resistance. You dont have to be a new age fag that's constantly happy and excited, just focus on the sheer state of being a genuinely calm content retard 24/7, not to manifest but for the state itself. You will naturally stop reacting and taking the 3D seriously and your ADHD thoughts will slow down. Yes you can still do your sats and affirmations, but outside of that just chill. Once again, Don't focus on not caring. Don't focus on letting go. This causes alot of you guys to tense up and sperg out because there's nothing else going on in your miserable lives. So instead just focus and PERSIST on calm serenity which will naturally put you in a powerful manifestation state. You'll stop thinking about your desire or of you do you won't be anxious. Relax your thoughts and body at all times.

>The rick and morty method

>>41287451
*Law of Atrraction.
You guys keep getting it wrong.

Feels great not to worry about my back and stomach.

>>41287695
What’s this method?

Where is my SP yet???????????

>>41288244
I saw her flying over my roof!

>>41287542
Santa Claus does exist but he only brings cool presents to good kids.
The other kids get this: https://www.mediafire.com/file/vvx9fqy71iuac79/Santa_takes_a_dump_in_the_chimney.mp3/file

>>41287550
this is very important. it seems like all my manifestations are at a point when i've forgotten about things

>>41288244
>i don't have my sp!
you are correct

>Assumptions harden into fact

So you’re saying that I’m right even if I’m wrong, even if my assumption isn’t true at that point it will manifest because my subconscious won’t believe anything else?

Based, I’m always right

>>41288634
it's more like, the wrong parts of you, the ones of lack, are deepening your disconnection to the light and abundance.

unless you're talking analytical shit, like if you say "the sky is purple" or "water is yellow". in which case i mean, sure, but then you'll find an eclipsed vaporwave-esque sky or your pee pee will be yellow.

>>41288244
try climbing down the ladder instead of climbing up the ladder

>>41287550
This works, even by artificial means. I would be trying at reaching a state for weeks, but then get instant results after smoking a bowl.

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>>41287695
>>41287934
Sorry, I forgot to make a non retard thread yesterday.

>>41287451
>The universe mirrors your mental world
No, it doesn't. How does it feel to be a lying new age weasel? How does it feel to trick so many dumb stupids?

How do I manifest a bf like my AI bf?

Anyone manifested multiple physical traits at once with UL? Like writing down a list from 1-5 like (1. taller 2. better health 3. wider shoulders 4. great smile 5. greatvskin) and manifesting a whole list instead of only one trait? I am inspired to try this

Can you manifest with affirmations only, like doing affirmations all day and only filling my mind with affirmation thoughts

That’s what I’ve been doing lately

I’m pretty sure I manifested my obnoxious neighbors moving out by doing it

the universe has its own internal cope because it needs to interface with souls
if you think and act a certain way, the universe must cope, it has no other choice

>>41281840
Day 39(2) of manifesting a passionate, fruitful and lifelong marriage to a Proverbs 31 wife.

>>41287550
I agree with this, do you have any suggestions on who to achieve that state consistently though?

>>41288244
Read>>41287550

You're pathetic even if you got your SP she'd probably leave your ass again there's a reason she left you. Perhaps she didn't respect because you aee needy and desperate. Become the type of man that she admires and doesn't need her because I bet you because thats probably the type of guy shes spreading her legs for.

>>41291269
Yeah all these people get obsessed with SPs cuz they have 0 other options with women. Imagine having all this imaginal power, and using it to attract some plain 6/10 girl at best, lol

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>>41291221
Consistently? It's not some enlightened elusive state. Like literally just sit down in your chair and just gently smile and relax yourself. Just be content and grateful with the moment and try to maintain this state 24/7 eventually it will become your default. That's how you become "consistent". You don't have to do shit like imagine your desire and affirmations constantly that will cause you stress. But what you can do is just chill. You can't burn out if you chill out. The problem is you still trying to chill to get something out of it, just relax and be happy for the sake of it. You can gauge if you're doing this right based off your actions for example if you're obsessed with your ex and constantly checking her social media you will eventually stop because you truly no longer need her validation. Even if she post a pic of her get dogged by her new bf. You dont care. You too chilled out and would rather play with Legos. If you're stressed about work, money, or school then you'll stop complaining about it and losing sleep because you're genuinely detached from the situation.

There's no fucking secret JUST RELAX AND SMILE. Be happy. Anytime you think something negative or something shitty happens to you immediately take and breath and relax, fuckin chill out until it doesn't bother you anymore

"6 Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; 7 and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus."

All you're doing is practicing self-control and being a man. Another thing is you guys are bored, you want sex and money. That's why you also need to feel content in the moment so that you dont need shit that causes you to sperg and spiral into anxiety and neediness. It will be a bit difficult at first but persist. Ironically, You will manifest what you want.

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>>41291410
This. Just give up. You are have the fulfillment you desire.

>>41291410
Also, I'd like to add that relaxation is not just mental and physical if youre having trouble relaxing focus on the tension in your body, loosen that shit. Whenever you see a cute girl on social media instead of feeling needy and saying "God i wish those yams smothered my cucumber" just think meh....im happy without it. You'll also know you're relaxed when you're obsessively online researching loa out of lack and desperation

https://youtu.be/RJfqRxkoTyI?si=nQSz0sDcfpk0X0Lv

>>41287451
>law of attraction.
Fixed it for you.

>>41291750
your manifestations are weak compared to my influence, let alone my manifestations

>>41291668

This guy mentions Goddard, and says the key to manifesting is getting into a relaxed state (laying flat before bed time, relaxing all muscles and body parts etc) and having the feeling that it’s already been fulfilled. Nothing really earth shattering that hasn’t been mentioned here before.

But he also says manifestations can take a year or 2 years or longer. Thoughts?

>>41287451
How do I manifest a guy like Max irl (human obviously)?
I like his personality, shy guys just trying to be normal are cute :3

>>41291867
what of psychotic guys just trying to be normal?

>>41291848
If you can't manifest instantly, or near-instant say 1-2 minutes max, it's a massive skill issue, regardless of desire, regardless if you wanna be 100ft or something. Now lets see copers seethe

>>41291929
how do fat people and tfw no gfs rationalise this

>>41291947
They ratinalize by coping that they need to enter SATS better, that they need to be more drowsy, that they just need to assume, that they need to relax, to let go, that they need to detach, that they need to make their scene vivid, that they need to get the feeling. This is how cope sounds like, this feeling shit is for women who read erotica novels

>>41290757
this is so fucking stupid

>>41291120
very enlightening post

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>>41292015
i see

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TriumphantGeorge Compendium finished
https://pastebin.com/NZ17CvP0

>>41291929
>100 ft
Please don't try this, the square cube law says you wouldn't be able to move. Also, you'd probably die soon.

How do you guys stop manifesting living in hell ruled over by satanic pedos that eat children? Should I destroy all electronic equipment in my vicinity?

>>41292333

>>41292370
Fifth world problems require fifth world suicide methods

I listen to omnikinesis subliminal. Started today.

>>41292370
Square cope law more like it, I picked 100ft as a random number how about being Mars sized guy just chilling in the galaxy and just walking on empty space like it's concrete without crushing anything? What laws will that stir? How many copes are gonna come out? One million more excuses?

Want to manifest a gf faster? Visualize while listening to 90's R&B songs.

https://youtu.be/0ALklWpzOBA?si=Wy_QJdR_9kAss8HI

>>41291410
Good post man, thanks, I'm pretty sure I get it now.

I intuitively used to do this long ago but let the anxiety and neediness consume me through neglecting my own mental state. Time to change that

>>41287451
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Um1Njhe2Y&

>>41291410
based and bible pilled
literally, being happy is a conscious state, and not a consequence
I usually say, with LoA is often hard to see the forest for the trees, but the point you shouldn't looking at it at all

>>41292680
sort of off topic, maybe wrong thread
but also >>41282449
which btw retarded OP forgot to link

>>41290830
Lemme know if you figure it out

If retards really believed in deities they'd try to understand how they're possible and what this means.

>>41292938
So all sex gods and goddesses were real? Them niggas was really cooming? There was a bitch with a crazy pussy game like aphrodite?

>>41292955
People got into the habit of praying and sacrificing to various imagined deities. And it worked.

>>41293022
It only works because people expect it will work. You can take a poop right now, delude yourself it's some Poop Overlord that'll grant you one gold bar with every shit you take and it will work

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Okay, I've found evidence that this is REAL. Manifested getting more women (even if it was half-assed) I did get it although the results were, as expected, half-assed BUT this is the most amount if women I've ever had in years (3 are into me!)

bros how do you manifest having a successful digital career, abundance of women, and a model-like face and physique? I was thinking to do a scenario where I imagine my entire day

>wake up, workout
>cute chick i met works out with me
>go home, bathe, skincare
>digital career as a side hustle (would turn into main hustle)
>hit my part time job at the bookshop
>girls visit me and try to get my instagram
>girls i know give me gifts
>at night, girls dm to take me to their place and fuck me


Would that work? I honestly think it's a bit hard to imagine and get the feeling off and that it would just be a "that one day it manifested" type of thing.

>>41293043
that is so cool dude i want this

Holy fuck, let's gooooo. I made it bros, just assume and keep your mind focused on the present moment and distract yourself with work and leisure. Use humor to quell any doubt. Fuck yeah

>>41293144
Nice man, what technique did you do?

>>41287451
Every time I try to shift realities CERN reverses it. How am I supposed to go to my own personal reality if CERNfaggots keep reverting it? They're the fucking reality police.

>>41287451
Ok this shit works. I was able to successfully manifest a job for my sister. In fact it's almost exact how I envisioned it like I explicitly imagined it'd be 2x her current job and viola it actually was about 2x her current job. She let me know that she joined it about a week ago after interviewing about a month ago. I did SATS for this more than 1.5/2 months ago.

>>41293239(Me)
*2x salary

>>41293235
One of the biggest copes i've ever heard. One cope leads to another, what will it be next time

>>41293108
look into scripting, let us know if it works

>>41293153
Anytime I'd think of my desire I acted nonchalant but also grateful.

>>41293314
I'm a newbie to he LoA because I haven't purified my mind so I don't want to go all in on the LoA and travel to some torture reality. But I've had spontaneous reality shifts where positive thinking would have taken me to a better reality but I see CERN reverting them immediately. I can see the reality shift like seeing a window of energy overlaying reality move to the side semi-subtly when they revert it. Now why would they do that?

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I notice living "in the end" feels like maintaining an ambiance or aura around your physical body, who feels/thinks like that?

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>want money
>get handed a job

>>41290830
>>41292740
You already have. You don't want a flesh and blood bf. That's why you hide behind an AI one.
You don't want to be challenged. You don't want to deal with another soul's issues. You are the epitome of modern systemic narcissism. You want a version of yourself that just validates your trauma responses. I get it, I'm the same way. 90% of the West is the same way right now.

Just stop lying to yourself. It's the least you can do. Literally, it's the one sin you can avoid at this point. Because you are forever, and you are going to have a life after this one.

>>41291203
IDK about Proverbs, but I manifested a nasty revenge with Psalm 109.
I should really do my homework and work Psalms into a spellbook.

>>41291848
You should experiment by yourself and see what is true and what is not instead of relying on opinions from retards on the internet.
You have no idea the kinds of weird you might be able to conjure. Buy you need to actually do the work.
Stop asking questions. Stop asking for advice. Start making mistakes and learning from them. It is worth it, believe me.

>>41292370
>gyraffes are impossible
>*gureffes* get discoverd
>oh nevermind here is teh new science to explain that
Experience is the only real science there is.

>>41292392
I don't live in hell ruled over by satanic pedos. It's that simple.
Do the exist? Yes.
Do they affect any of my goals? Nope.

I decide what I want to experience, and then experience it.

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>>41293108
>a successful digital career
I just enjoyed it, so it came naturally.
>abundance of women
I just imagined vividly.
>and a model-like face and physique
Same, except it didn't actually happen, instead, people started acting as if it was that way. Weird, but I'll take it.

>>41292300
Thought it was going to take longer, thanks Anon.

>>41292392
>How do you guys stop manifesting living in hell ruled over by satanic pedos that eat children?
Manifest their death.
>>41269322
>(...) and I wished very strongly the death of their leaders as a sign that things could change. Three days later I learned that the oldest Rothschild had died.

>>41290757
>because it's hard as fuck to stay awake whilst your body sleeps aka state akin to sleep
Gateway tapes are very useful for this, they call it "focus 10".

>>41294175
>Psalm 109
What is it?

>>41294199
Strength proportional to height squared.
Weight proportional to height cubed.
It's simply math.

>>41287451
Things are wonderful. My family easily helps everyone in need now and receives endless abundance in return. Things are better than ever and they continue to improve daily. Everyone who has ever helped me or my family is incredibly blessed and happy to see the immense wealth and endless happiness and success my family now enjoys

>>41293397
this is the way to be. this is how people actually are when they get things so that's the vibration right there

>>41293235
Do it during national holidays in Switzerland. The staff is reduced and reality shifters slip through left and right.

the most important thing to practice is who you are. identity determines all else. choose carefully.

>>41287451
Unironically first time ITT and while it seems interesting, doesn't blackpill destroy all of your views tho? You can't attract or manifest anything, your halo is your looks and not much is in your control, even if you let go. Correct me if i'm wrong

>>41295105
stab a random woman to death in the street after you imagine doing it and then explain to me after how the resistance felt

>>41295105
After 5 years of studying loa. I know now that incels manifest a gf eventually unconsciously. They manifest a girl that actually finds them attractive, this is the girl that usually ends up as their wife. But it can take years for this woman to appear because it usually comes when they've given up.
So the blackpill kinda does apply in the sense that if you're well and truly fucked height and face wise, no amount of approaching girls and attempts to date will get you love.
You will only get a wife through unconscious manifestation once you get to a point where you truly don't care anymore.
This is also ofcourse implying that you've even already manifested a gf unconsciously yet.

I can bend reality with loa.

I want to do this, but I feel like I don't control my mind.

When I wake up, I am constantly getting intrusive thoughts of people being cruel/threatening/etc. When I'm at work I fake it, but in my head it's just hate/cruelty all day.

How do I change this and get control of my brain?

>>41290757
Whoever wrote this shit has no fucking idea what sleep paralysis is. I wish ignoramuses stopped posing as knowledgeable.

>>41291203
Day 40(3) of manifesting a passionate, fruitful, lifelong and fulfilling marriage to a Proverbs 31 wife

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>>41294454
source? link?
By gateway, you mean like vivid dreaming. off body or something like that? O actual gateway spooky stuff?

>>41295679
I know both and sleep paralysis is fairly different, in feel at least,
in one you are extremely aware of your surrounds, the other you are completely detached

>>41296157
he means the gateway tapes by robert monroe. The main idea is body asleep mind awake. Eventually used to astral project and have obes.

The gates are based around the idea of hemisync, essentially it's a shortcut to bypass hours of meditation through the use of sounds.

>>41295651
Simply observe the thoughts without judgment or resistance. It takes time.

>>41287451
*Law of Attraction.* Label it right next time.

ive noticed that when i become disheartened with the law/UL/ and manifestation in general the loa threads get shittier

My beautiful japanese wife with f cup tits rode my cock a few hours ago it felt soooo good her oussy had a crazy vice grip and suction. Her body was covered in jojoba oil too while I massaged her fat plump tits with ny barehands. She rode me robotically and mechanically with intense passion and thrust, The ceiling fan was running so it cooled our sweaty asses down a bit. Even now I remember her sensual kisses as she bent forward and made out with me as I dick jabbed her, she bit my lip and got all kinds of crazy. I remember she got so aroused her tits started leaking milk from her diamond hard nipples. She started declaring her intense love and devotion for me as she started to reach climax she then orgasmed and moaned mightily and rested on my muscles. Her tits smothered against my pecs. I remember her intense panting after and the twinkle in her eyes as she stared into mine. Thank you God that this happens to me everyday now. I am the man that this happens to casually. This is a normal day in my life

>>41297246
Yeah bro happens to me too I dunp about 10 loads a day into my wife's vagina

>>41296616
see >>41291822
re >>41291750

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I have 5 life goals.
1. Win ninja warrior
2. Become a successful inventor
3. Get a Silver glove in Savate French kickboxing
4.Successfully complete an immersive survival instructor course
5. Win a H.E.M.A Sword tournament in 1st place

I'm lazy af but if I visualize pulling this shit off will I naturally develop the energy and athleticism to do all these things and oppurtunities start presenting themselves?

I ju

In my findings, I've discovered this works well with semen retention and fasting. I'm now testing it on something very unlikely.

>>41297433
as well as sunlight exposure and mega dosing vitamin c

Do you have to be 100% sure you want something? Would not being sure hinder the manifestation?

>>41297710
good luck!

>>41297710
what % of your life experiences were things you were 100% sure you wanted?

>>41297433
really? maybe i need to do more fasting because SR hasn't been crazy good for my manifestations. however i also watched too much porn which i think gets in the way

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>>>41284342
Based triumphant george bro
but I think it needs to be a better formatted or have some sort of Table of contents
thank you for your efforts nonetheless

It's me and my gf in this video, I manifested her with Richard Gordon's method
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZNyXtHdEP0

>>41296157
>>41296428
Yes, this is what I was talking about. This really helps detaching from your body. I think gateway tapes and LOA can work together. And there are even tapes about "patterning" which is pretty much LOA. Here are a few links to download the tapes for those interested.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1F0Y8In5bswU_K4qkASLw2Y0vpYip4yXy
https://mega.nz/folder/Ns9mhDSC#iKKxSnq5EoG_GxYLeylrSg/folder/o1UE0ZwK
https://drive.google.com/drive/shared-with-me

Is your picture real? What the hell is it??

I want to get my unemployment approved but I have doubts they almost always contest I hope they don't contest

>>41298236
>>41297433
See >>41282449
we are definitely on the right track, but it goes further, we should practice tantric/yoga sex, to utilize that energy
I'm currently looking into how practice that by myself, aka tranta "masturbation"

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>>41292300
>>41298304 (me)
I don't frequent this general often (and I don't know what /one/ is I can't find it)
But I'd like to share my experience with Triumphant George

this was like 10+ years ago in HS. I tested the two glasses method, for multiple things and all of them basically happened in a way. I'll tell you guys about one, which is about physical looks (face).
I did the two glasses thing like quite few times on looks (because of my massive OCD at the time)
but first I'd like to note that I was NOT on this incel/lookism thing or whatever (and it wasn't a big thing back then) and I did this because I wanted to look like a certain someone (because I was a vain fag and It was simply to be able to admire myself on the mirror, I really did not care about other people nor was it for girls at all) .

I remember that it happened quickly and since then I get complimented on my looks extremely often which is in my culture/country is extremely extremely rare for men especially if its a stranger (its considered faggy and awkward as hell). Literally some food delivery app guy was positively stunned when he saw me two weeks ago. and of course some girls had crushes on me.

In the mirror I don't think much changed however, I think I look good sometimes and I think i'm a 4-3/10 sometimes. Also I'm not tall and certainly did not have a "chad" face. So in terms of self-perception, I think I'm a slightly above average guy at best and I don't see the good looking guy people see at all. But If i remember correctly when I did the two glasses, It was mostly focused on vanity and other people reactions, However I'm doubtful on what I exactly imagined considering its over 10 years ago by now.

>>41298440
>like quite few times on looks
what do you mean by this? a little unclear

>>41298440
Also I would like to say Triumphant George's eloquence is something to be admired. And Oneirosophy is probably one of the best things that happened on the internet. I still hold the idealist thoughts, however life sidetracked me and I'm planning to go back on it, as I found calmness on it. It'll probably be too far from this general line of thinking as it's not LOA.
>>41298466
Basically I had massive OCD which makes me think I did it wrong / had negative thoughts / I put the water too slowly and had negative thoughts so I threw the water away and redid it etcetera.
I struggled with OCD since childhood but each time I beat it on my own thankfully and didn't have it for a while now.

>>41298480
>Basically I had massive OCD
i get that, but so you're saying you did the glasses thing tons of times because of that? how many times until it worked?

I hate my life so fucking much. I'm a NEET schizoid loner. I don't want to work, I don't want to go to college.
I just want to reality shift so fucking much.

I'm so hopeless and jaded. I just feel like this is all a scam and it doesn't work. I want to believe, I want to get superpowers.

This life is so fucking shit. I tried working and quit in a month. I even tried to kill myself a month ago by cutting by carotid but I couldn't go deep enough because I am a pussy. Now I have scars to remind me of my failure.

Why is everything so hard. I can't lucid dream, I can't astral project, I can't believe in manifestation.

I often wish that I would get cancer and just die. I hope it happens.

I don't know how you guys feel about your life but thank everyday that you are not me.

>>41298383
Nice I was about to ask for those, its been a while I've the lucid dream/astral projection threads in /x/
any guidelines on how to go through that content?

>Is your picture real? What the hell is it??
desu I have no clue, but one of those rare old /x/ originals no one knows for sure

Can you please manifest that I get leukemia and have only a few months to live? Thanks

okay /loa/ can i get an answer for my question pls.

I still have no idea what SATS is. is it just a relaxed state before you fall asleep where you can imagine your scenes to fall asleep to?

or is it something like a lucid dream that you have to enter by letting your body fall sleep while staying awake. kinda like the WILD technique of lucid dreaming, where you try entering a dream while still awake. so the scene is actually a visual one. do you have to go through sleep paralysis?

>>41291668
Holy shit the synchronicity, I just thought of giving a shot a watching video related and it actually matches up exactly with The gateway project mentioned >>41298383

>>41298775
see >>41290757 and https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/38226469/
the short answer is: yes and no, and maybe...?
You don't necessarily need to be in lucid dreaming, it can work anyway,
but parallels seem to be drawing it ever so close in concept

>>41298440
>and of course some girls had crushes on me.
Tinder girls from Thailand I guess

>>41298480
>Also I would like to say Triumphant George's eloquence is something to be admired
Yes and I wonder if that's why they are good at selling courses. I am not talking about this person in particular I don't know him, but many youtubers are real good talkers and can convince an eskimo to buy ice.

Lelly࿎
@idropFbombs
3h
It's incredibly narcissistic and they want you to believe that YOU are God. Saying i'm God means I created this Earth and I did not, something else definitely created this place and my soul is here to experience it. I do believe we shape our own realities but something else highly advanced built this place

Funny stuff earlier today. My parents had bought a few scratchcards and were disappointed that they were all losing. As my mother started to check again, I made her do the two glasses trick, for fun. Then she checked the cards again, and three cards were winning, one had €6, another had €20, and another $10. Not much money, but still.
Maybe she had just not checked properly the first time, it's very possible, or it's a case of revision, she believed the trick worked so it changed the results on the cards.

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>>41298489
I don't remember how many times I did it, I'm an introvert so I basically do it and never go out until its school day again. I think it took like two weeks before I started getting stares and looks ( i might have gotten them earlier but I'm oblivious unless its really obvious or they talk)
>>41298946
You can believe whatever you want. The latest one was a girl from another department where I work. I literally noticed her looking at my crotch area once (I was sitting awkwardly in one of those small booth rooms and she walked and just stared while moving). This is the most obvious signs but she stares at me and tries to see me everytime I go. Even though I'm oblivious as rocks (I literally didn't notice a girl was pregnant at work until she came back from parental leave) I noticed it. I have zero reason to bullshit about this.
I don't have tinder, I only like a very specific type of girls that are rare to find IRL.
>>41298983
He's not a snake oil salesman. I used to stalk him hard and found him posting in metaphysical forums and google forums for decades. He experimented and honed his thoughts for decades, and never sold a single thing. He's just so well spoken.
But I agree with you, being eloquent is necessary as a marketer.
>>41299132
Triumphant George said something about this, to rephrase. He said to get results you need to be two things, either know (not believe or have faith in, but know) that you are god or the "dreamer" and that whatever you want has happened already. "As if" method. Even if the 3D is saying the opposite.
The other is having utmost faith that it is happening and basically not care. It was in one of his posts about neville and LOA IIRC if anyone wants to look it up.

If you do care and obsesses and take facts from 3D, results will never come. That is true from my experience.

>>41299196
Also he said something critical about imagination. When you imagine always do it from first pov. Not third perspective .

First pov will lead to a scenario where (You) do it. Third perspective will lead to you seeing someone else do/be it.

I manifested a free ride with the list method. This shit works. Totally unexpected free ride, at the moment when I was running late. Crazy stuff man. I'm a firm believer now.

>>41299220
How many things you wrote so far?

>>41299309
It's been 4 or 5 days continuous so about 40-50 things. Some of it has happened. Many of those are vague like financial freedom or good health etc. But specific things seems to have happened already like Free drink and free ride. I've had decently good successes >>41293239 like I mentioned here as well this was about 1 month back.
successes with small amounts of money coming from unexpected places but never anything substantial, not with money anyway.
I'm hoping this time It'll be different as I'll be writing more and more substantial things every day.

>>41299309
Just that free ride.
I can’t really make a list so it had one thing on it.
I have ADHD. I have to get help to write this post.

>>41299358
This is not me. Bots are roaming free. Looks like I need a proper trip.

>>41298480
>It'll probably be too far from this general line of thinking as it's not LOA.
You nailed it. This general is the 4chan equivalent of the Law of Attraction subreddit. Nothing wrong with that, but if you go for other ways to go about manifestation beyond it, you won't be able to have a valuable discussion on this general, let alone this entire site. Hell, even you could find immensely valuable insight on the LoA subreddit once in a blue moon, but here's just impossible. You want the worst advice and most misleading insight about this subject from some of the most willfully ignorant people on the internet? Search no more, 4chan is the perfect place for that.

As for the question about what /one/ was, lookup "Oneirosophy" in the subject field on the archives. It was a failed general which project has to migrate out of this site because you can't have a constructive metaphysical discourse about manifestation on /x/. It happens when your interest are beyond the scope of the site i guess, happened back then, not different nowadays, and be sure that it will keep happening.

>>41298382
I totally gave up on manifesting a cute girl like yours, even an asian gf. It didn't work and made me very frustrated

When I broke up I didn't want to meet any other women, I mean fuck it I wanted to remain single. But I still met another one. How come ?
Accorsing to Neville I thought you have to desire something, and act as if you already had it, to receive it. I shouldnt have met another woman....

>>41299677
>which project has to migrate out of this site
Where did it migrate to

>>41299715
Hahahaha enjoy your struggle retards, you killed /one/, so use this general instead. Isn't that what you guys wanted?

>>41299677
>you won't be able to have a valuable discussion on this general,
You're right. But I heard this thread was the best on LoA, didnt read it yet though

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/38226469

Nowadays the only way to meet a girl is on dating app like tinder. But I'm looking for a tradi woman amd girls on there are almost all liberals pierced tattooed ones. Not my stuff. Plus I'm looking for a non vaxed one, preferably asian. I guess it's best to believe in Santa claus...
Let alone tinder algo ghosts you after a few days...
The time we live in is really fucked up. And before you say, nope I didn't manifest that shitty period.

>>41297317
*Law of Attraction. Fixed it for ya.

>>41287451
Wasn't it "Law of attraction" and not "assumption?" Did I miss something the last time I was on /x/?

So whatever vivid scene you see in your half-sleep will actually for real happen in real-life, that's the rule?

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>>41299677
I think Idealism is quite niche of itself. It can only sustain a general if /x/ was slower and by slower I mean being able to go 1-2 months without bump and not getting archived. It cannot sustain a general like the more palatable LoA stuff.
Even the subreddit was quite inactive with few posts every month or few months.
I count myself very lucky because I found it in the perfect time. When it was still semi-active and triumphant george was posting regularly ( I used to make so many accounts as I did not like reddit beyond it and I was so annoying and an anxious kid, but he always responded kindly and eloquently. ) . Now everyone's gone and its a bit sad to not have anywhere to discuss it, but this is a personal path after all. You either do personal investigation and see for yourself, your own. Or simply live on the patterned path you have decided upon. You'll come to realize it on your own, no matter how much times it takes. a year, a century, a millennium, a Decamillennium or even an eon or longer. You'll come to know yourself.

Going to be honest, I was one of the original's who shilled Triumphant george and John Paolucci's stuff here ( I found JP through the oneirsophy subreddit archive back then) every now and then to see if any like minded people still exist somewhere. I'm glad it did something and made some people to investigate it for themselves.

LoA is good on that it leads people to considering something of the sort. It's a journey and LoA is the start but not the end, but without a start there can be no end. So all in all i'm grateful for it.

I don't have my SP
I don't have my SP
I don't have my SP
I don't have my SP
I don't have my SP
I don't have my SP
I don't have my SP

>>41299982
Also to anons here. There's an NDE TG liked to post often. and I like too. That showcases the "void" experience
https://www.nderf.org/Experiences/1victor_c_other.html

>>41299982
>Going to be honest, I was one of the original's who shilled Triumphant george and John Paolucci's stuff here ( I found JP through the oneirsophy subreddit archive back then) every now and then to see if any like minded people still exist somewhere. I'm glad it did something and made some people to investigate it for themselves.
Ey man, if that's true, i thank you immensely for letting people know on here about John and George. Oneirosophy became a way of life to me, and i don't even need a community on the internet anymore. Hell, i could just get them irl like the cult leader guy we had around here and create my own Oneirosophy group. Feels good to know the truth of who we really are, that we are truly self sufficient and capable of everything we can imagine and more. Also, thanks to /one/ for all the trouble they went trough to compile the material, i will hold onto it as long as i live.

>>41298531
>>41298595
Come on, anon, LOA and such are supposed to give you hope. I tried to end myself too and I used to beg the universe every night to let me die in my sleep, at some point even living a few more minutes seemed like a torture impossible to go through. LOA and other kinds of magic gave me hope. Still so far I failed at manifesting the things I really want, but I manifested several stuff that I did not care much about, like changing the color of my hair and making several events of poor importance happen with many details matching too perfectly, which seems to prove that it can work, in my case I need to learn to detach.
Have you tried LOA? If not, try it. And if it doesn't work for you, it's not over, there are other methods, like reality shifting, transurfing, sorcery rituals and many stuff I don't even know the name of.
Try and try again, try until you succeed. Show the universe who you are, don't let it believe you are its bitch, you can become its master. The more difficult the fight, the more beautiful the success.

>>41298440
>I tested the two glasses method
>I'll tell you guys about one, which is about physical looks (face).
>I'd like to note that I was NOT on this incel/lookism thing
>I did this because I wanted to look like a certain someone
>I was a vain fag and It was simply to be able to admire myself on the mirror
>I really did not care about other people nor was it for girls at all
Ok but then you said
>In the mirror I don't think much changed however, I think I look good sometimes and I think i'm a 4-3/10 sometimes
So it didn't work...
>If i remember correctly when I did the two glasses, It was mostly focused on vanity and other people reactions
You just said it wasn't about validation from other people at all, you said you wanted to look like someone and be satisfied with what you saw in the mirror. So which is it? It sounds like it didn't work
>I'm doubtful on what I exactly imagined considering its over 10 years ago by now
so what good is your anecdote?

i find it weird that things only start happening to me when i enter that "fine, i just wont do it then" stage. i was feeling like absolute dogshit today, i had to watch other men get to be with women and be happy with them while i got nothing. i entered that cathartic state once i lost hope and suddenly i had actually received a super-like on tinder, i'm totally flabbergasted since that shit doesn't happen like at all and it still happened to me. she's a qtpie and not terribly far. i don't know if it's wish come true or a leash to pull me back into the matrix.

>>41299778
Yeah actually because you guys are miserable faggots that keep shitting up this general.

>>41300132
No worries man. I used to look it up on 4plebs and found nobody talking about them so I shilled a post or two every few months. Didn't realize it'd snowball and get this big.
Good luck into your journey
>>41300188
>>41300188
To be perfectly honest and as I remember. I imagined multiple faces for me, I couldn't decide on one, That's a part of the OCD I had, thinking I made a mistake. I just wanted it to be "perfect" and to feel vain on the mirror and get reactions out of people (as I was egoistic kid back then).
>You just said it wasn't about validation from other people at all, you said you wanted to look like someone and be satisfied with what you saw in the mirror. So which is it? It sounds like it didn't work
It clearly did work, before it I spent ~15-16 years and I only got complimented on my looks by my mom. Which isn't odd as a man, but afterwards I get complimented everywhere. Which again, is rare and unheard of as a man to get them.
Reactions of people is part of the vanity. I wanted to admire myself in the mirror AND get reactions out of people. However I didn't want to fuck men or women. I simply wanted the experience of being good looking. and I got exactly that.
Also, most of the time I do think I look good in the mirror. I just didn't see a perfect man in the mirror or good looking enough to warrant the reactions I get. Also from my research back then It seems every good looking person gets the same thing so that's probably it.
>so what good is your anecdote?
I simply posted it to encourage anons as that's one of the direct ways I influenced my life experience. You are welcome to not trust what I said at all and investigate yourself.

>>41300214
Then there's no problem anymore.

>>41300028
YOU ALREADY HAVE HER, that is the entire point.

I'm thinking of manifesting a worldwide porn boycott. That or a worldwide porn ban or a worldwide porn industry collapse.

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>>41296156
Day 41(4) of manifesting a passionate, fruitful, lifelong and fulfilling marriage to a Proverbs 31 wife.

Hard to believe this worked after a year of doing nothing just imagining and visualizing i am wealthy and can indulge in my lustful desires crazy but it gets boring you can be anything or have anything you want.

>>41300881
So you are now wealthy and indulging in your lustful desires? Tell us details, please.

>>41300251
I think we sometimes sadly do the opposite without realizing, we manifest other people to hate us with no reason. As a kid everything was awesome and everybody loved me, then something terrible happened when I was eight, I felt so incredibly bad I tried to kill myself twice despite being such a young child, I also felt responsible and hated myself like you would not believe, and everybody at school suddenly started to hate me as if I was a weird monster, it happened all of a sudden as if I was in an opposite world, even my best friends since preschool now hated me, even the schoolteacher now hated me, even my parents were constantly upset about me for no reason, and unknown people everywhere would always give me the bad eye. At some point, oddly, one kid started to like me, for a few weeks, then his whole family died in a car crash, as if I had to stay alone. A few years later, for absolutely no reason except that I was feeling good again at last, everything changed again, everybody suddenly liked me again. I always thought "there must be an explanation" but really it was me unconsciously manifesting my own hell. It happened again later, I ran into some serious trouble and, again, instead of being there for me everybody started to hate me, then after a couple years when I got better, everybody loved me.
I remember about a woman in a show about paranormal stories who was claiming that everybody hated her, that unknown people would give her the bad look and even insult her or spit at her, maybe because of dark forces or whatever, and people thought she was crazy. I think she was unconsciously manifesting it like I did as a kid.

>>41290574
WTF is it with old movies being pedocoded? People complain about muh hollywood illuminati symbolism...at least now they use ADULTS and aren't trying to mkultra the viewer into becoming a chomo.

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are sigils a form of manifestation

>>41301241
No anon you can't discuss that! You will ruin our thread! Think about the blogs, and the therapy sessions, QUIET

>>41301168

>So you are now wealthy and indulging in your lustful desires? Tell us details, please.

He's lying.

Thanks for sharing your story. Reality is truly a divine mirror. By not knowing this, we risk needless suffering. So long as we train our subconscious with healthy habits, the universe yields and bestows gifts.

>>41301417
>subconscious
What's this?

>>41301390
i'll admit i was only half shitposting when i asked
sometimes i make sigils, not very often, but it feels nice to do
i still have a bunch sitting around on my headboard. i barely remember what any of them are for but to my knowledge that's not a bad thing

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>>41301241
I make sigils but I don't use them in the Magick way.
I will think of what I want, reduce it down to a short affirmation, then make a sigil for that and really spend some time designing it to look cool. I like to draw, so focusing on it sort of puts me into alpha state and I think about my affirmation as I'm designing it. Then I keep my little drawing and tack it on my vision board and it serves as a shorthand of my affirmation.
Picrel: "thank you for showing me that all of my issues have been resolved"

>>41299677
>you won't be able to have a valuable discussion on this general, let alone this entire site
not with that attitude

>>41299884
>Nowadays the only way to meet a girl is on dating app like tinder
very wrong

>>41299918
you're right, its just a retard OP making things up,

>>41301430
>half shitposting
obviously, part of why the thread is so low quality, is how anons are so quick to jump into obvious 1 and done baitposts all the time

but answering the half that is real question, I saw a video yesterday that pretty much ties up LoA, Magick and the Gateway tapes, all together
so in short yeah, sigils and rituals can work if you feel they do, but its entirely unnecessary

What’s the best way to manifest winning the lottery

>>41301168
I've had your exact experiences. I'm at a low point rn. Any advice for getting out?

>>41301430
About sigils, all big brand's logos are sigil. Nike, Microsoft, etc. The more eyeballs see their logo the more their brand becomes powerful.
If you draw a sigil and give it a goal, you have to make it seen by the most of people you can to charge it.

>>41302166
>What’s the best way to manifest winning the lottery
Be the owner of the lottery

>>41300189
anon-Mother-kun
prepare to translate into the warp through my astral theta staging

Ok so it was around a bunch of years that I desired to get a new girlfriend. In the last 6 months I've been thinking more about this.

Details that eventually manifested themselves that I thought of in the past separately on different occasions.

- Short girl
- Big Boobs
- Book Reader
- Someone I can go on a hike with on national parks AND also at art museums
- My favorite cat is norwegian forest cat
- atheist as me
- progressive/leftist as me

so all of these traits manifested and yes, she has a norwegian forest cat.

Now what did I do right?

First thing is believing I was capable of getting a girlfriend with my personality. I got way more solar in the past 5 years.

Then was having this desire at the centre. In the past few years I desired different stuffs.

Then realizing that all these things that I desired, eventually I got them. Like I wanna buy some technological item for my pc and then boom I find the right one for me and I can afford that.

Also realizing that I didn't want just sex but to be emotionally driven and feel the other person. And also all the details above.

Another thing that I did was wishing well onto those that have already a girlfriend instead of being envious and full of resentment.

I hope I did things right. I got things right. Now I feel super lucky that all the stars aligned

Is she a model? No. Does it matter? Fuck no. I like her for what she truly is. I like her and that's all that matters in the world. I still consider myself super lucky but I truly am.

>>41300189
Will mother anon finally meet a woman after all these years?

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>>41300189
Dude, I'll tell you this. I have been in that exact situation before, A few times. Once when I entered extreme hopelessness and depression about the bible mark of the beast prophecy suddenly I match with this cutie gamer girl that wanted me to come over and have sex with her. Then when I got depressed because my ex girlfriend was treating me like shit and right as I was about block her and finally fucking let go she messages me to come over and make plans. When you enter the complete hopelessness state, you remove all resistance from your desire as if you actually detached.

>>41303539
yala let's go.....

>start manifesting again After some weeks i wasnt doing It
>End up dreaming i take a car(jeep?) like the One i wanted from my house
>Drive like a MadMan and end up out of the car has that finishes down a Hill
>Some woman in a sport car comes to see me
>Her car Is Stolen and we steal a quadbike
>End up going up to a friend house
>Woman looks gorgeous(expecialy her ass)
>End up i can rewind time when She leaves me
WTF does this mean?

>>41303539
>When you enter the complete hopelessness state, you remove all resistance from your desire as if you actually detached.
Good it worked for you but it's not how it works in general. When people are hopeless they usually end up alcoholic like Neville or worse.
And for some, it allows them to modify their lifestyle and try something else.
There is no rule, no law, loa is not a law it's just someone's view about life nothing more.

>>41303611
Yes this is how it works in general thousands. Thousands of anecdotes to prove it. When you let go you typically get what you want. Has nothing to do with it working because you believe letting go works.

>>41303668
So if I let go of the idea of being a billionaire ill be a billionaire ? This is one massive cope

>>41303696
you're a massive cope,

>>41303611
>>41303539
lol actually it never works for me either. There were so many times that I “let go” of a girl and nothing happens.
You know how some PUA say that if you don’t give too much attention to women and they want you more? Well that’s if you at least look decent.
I think my relationship with universe is like that too lol
Care? Well I am not gonna give you what you want
>stop carrying? Good! Now fuck off and don’t bother me with your dreams!
Oh and I got some fucked up thing with me which I can’t even explain
It happens all the time
>talk to a girl. Vibe is all good, she laughs compliments etc
>she asks for my inste. Don’t have it. She then asks for my number, she texts first and… ghosted in 1 or two days, span of maybe not even 3 texts
Literally happens all the time
So, I ask a girl number? Ghosted
A girl asks my number? Ghosted again!
I swear it’s like a curse, like universe just like to give me hope and then crash it infront of my face
Honestly, I don’t even care about rejection or ghosting, but these types of “oh I like you, but tomorrow I gonna ghost you” specially hurts!
I am at a point that I don’t even wanna give anyone my number. I really wonder, how universe gonna come up with giving me hope and hurt me if I just refuse to play it’s sick games

>>41303724
Don't beat yourself up too much, constant rejections can be as traumatic as rape. Nobody is supposed to go through 100 rejections before they get a gf.

>>41303723
You didnt even refute my basic example, gaslighter

>>41303724
You got that right, people gaslight all the time with this nonsense. Just think for a second, would Brad Pitt need to "let go"? No he's Brad Pitt he can be fully attached he would still get all the numbers dates and sex

>>41303742
Oh I mean I get normal rejections.
You know, I ain’t a model. Fine!
But what’s this shit? I swear there was this time I just randomly started to talk to some girl, for hours! And she was super happy to talk to me and bam asked for my number and next day? Ghosted!
This shit hurts 10x worse than getting ghosted, ignored or rejected
I mean, I getting all the signals of “interest” and I am COURTED , and I am still rejected and ghosted? Wtf am I to do? Literally just say “nope I enjoyed it c but I am not gonna give my number to do?” Is this universe end goal? Literally push me to the point of cockblocking myself?
>>41303749
I know people who are WAY too emotional, and way too angry, and way too attached, and they get dates and numbers
It’s not and never been about “your inner game” or whatever. It’s always about your looks
You have that? Girls literally through yourself at you, and excuse every short coming and issues you have.
Average? You can try and get some girls too
Me? I don’t fuckint know! I don’t think I am even that bad looking, then why I am getting tortured like this? Did I piss off some entities or something?
It’s almost supernatural

>>41303788
Ok i'll tell you, you dont text more than 10 messages, you need to make a date planned with either texts or phone call, you dont chat with them too much cuz their pussies dry up if they think you are too available = nothing going on with you = loser so flip this narrative

>>41303798
Oh here we go with “the helps”
Dude I did this too.
I always make plans with girls, literally within 2 texts
And you know something funny? I make plans EVEN when I meet them, and they always says YES! And even they ask my number to catch up with me later (hell I never even ask anymore) and guess what? When next time I bring up meeting up doing EXCATLY the thing they wanted to do? Excuses, then ghosted
>you are too available
Dude fucking stop!
One of my friends text like RIGHT AWAY when a girl messege her and he never had one ghosting her
And yah, girl gonna take their time and pretend to be busy even for him, but guess what? Despite him being “available” all the time, it doenst reduce their attraction for them
All of this is just human nature of “trying to find a solution”
Well guess what? It’s just your looks and no inner games
You can’t fix this one

>>41303742
>constant rejections can be as traumatic as rape
uhhh
is this the method for inverting reverse raping women

>>41303807
Idk what to tell you then man, you need to improve your looks then. what's your height, bodyfat and weight?

>>41303808
Man I don’t know but guess how would you feel if a girl who is your “friend” hug your other mutual friend but give you a handshake, or if another mutual girl literally give joke lap dance to EVERY other friend, but you!
Or how it feels that you never EVER even experience being friend zoned or even fucking orbiters
Hell, I can’t even SIMP for women in my life, cause they don’t even want that from me
That’s why I am saying it’s like a supernatural curse

>>41303810
5'11.5", ~12% athletic, ~87kg

>>41303810
Nah. Can’t and won’t bother
I go to gym.
Height? I see people with my same height with gfs so I never saw that as an issue.
My face? Again. Not even bad.
It’s just , something is off, something just not right about me I feel like. And I can’t understand what so there is no fixing it
Just venting man

>>41303814
i was actually sexually violated by an adult woman when i was a legal minor by way of being supplied alcohol and drugs by another adult woman
i also get the broad spectrum rejection
you know fire and petrol and a really dry hot day in the forest type of alibi required

>>41303788
>It’s not and never been about “your inner game” or whatever. It’s always about your looks
Based.
That's why this stuff works for women mostly, because they have a pussy and every one of them can look decent with makeup.
Men on the contrary, if they have a bit of receding hairline, bam ghosted.
In 2025 it's all about look. It's not possible anymore to get women as easily our grandparents did, they basically just had to ask a women for marriage and they accept. It was simple.
Nowadays girls act like princesses (probably due to these crappy LoA-like methods that makes them think they can use men as carpets).
The game is rigged, it's not your fault.
And Nevelle ended up alcoholic and died from it btw, so it's not really an example to follow.
To get a woman nowadays you have to play the same game as them, aka, lie and deceive.
Sad.

>>41303820
Sorry to hear about your childhood man.
It sucks and no I am not gonna say “but I never had that buhu” no
That shit is horrible
Also sorry that you experinacd thise broad spectrum rejections too
Shit sucks
I don’t understand the allegory you made, but I think it might have been important

>>41303824
it's cool man
catastrophic bushfire season is around my way soon
but i am sure the compatible girl and i will meet before someone who isn't me sacrifices the forest

>>41303822
lol I mean I said it’s about looks and I believe it 100% man. But I swear to god, for me it’s also something fucking supernatural. I mean I am not that bad looking. Not to be this broadly rejected, not in a way to get ghosted after I had a great night talking to some woman.
Like a curse.
I am telling you, one of these days, I be the guy who end up “rejecting” (as if they never gonna ghost me next day) a girl advances and basically fully cuckibg myself cause that what the universe wants and it’s gonna get it from my
Like a joke finale
Oh and tinder, bumble etc? Oh I only get matched with…. Troons or literal 7000 miles away girls
Then you get my friend , who is decent looking and is talking with 4 good looking women at the same time one week into reacting his tinder
I still think looks is everything (dude is same height build as me, way way shyer than me)
But for me, it’s something else too, that it would still gonna to make me feel rejected, even if I looked better

If you didn't kept contact with the girls you knew when you were a kid it's almost over to meet other ones. Most adults date their friends from school. Try to contact some old friends on fb if you can find them, maybe they would be glad to meet you again.
Most of the couples I know are people who met when they were kids.
Meeting someone new as adults is very tough, and when you succeed it's almost always bound to fail.
Kids relationships are the best one to nurture and isually you grow happy together because you have the same roots, and since you already know each other from school there is some special chemical in the brain that makes both very attracted to each other. Like a glue.

>>41303843
Yeah that requires you to be accepted and at least get friendzoned by women
But I never experienced that bare minimum of attention either

>>41303822
Oh and fucking good personality and being “interesting”
I AM the most interesting of my friend group
I literally am!
And can’t brag but I am the most kind, conscious, and kindest one I can be!
I can literally look at someone and know what’s wrong with them, and women tell me things about their life, rgemsevels that you are not supposed to total strangers!
But hey, those are good for non cursed good looking people.
Me? Doesn’t matter
I can’t even prove my “values” or whatever to women if they don’t wanna let me past their barriers
So personality is important too, but it’s usually when they already attracted to you

>>41303843
those women from child they ignore me except i know they use my work/research
and we often entangle in the astral
absolutely bizarre

>>41303865
Mate you should go to Thailand or any Asian country, not a joke you'll be treated as a king by asian women.
Many westerners changed their life to the best by doing so.
But yeah it's not easy if your life is very anchored in your country, not always feasible.
Sometimes I wonder why stay in these shitholes (usa, EU, etc) whereas life is so easy there. All the men who expat there are living the dream, cute women everywhere who are into them, affordable and exquisite food/rents/cars, security, etc etc. Asia is the best place to live I think, for a westerner.

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>>41303501
>- atheist as me
>- progressive/leftist as me

>>41303906
i have had very bad experiences with asian women, i mean horrendous like i do not think they are the same species as myself being a norse gael i am just not compatible with them
i digress they were SEA goblin types so yeah but nah
i am very much involved in my local community and my tribe of which random women do show me affection albeit i must have not met the ideal prey i mean partner

>>41303923
Asian from here are not the same as there pal.
But I can understand, there are bad fruits in all cultures.

>>41303668
Letting go seams to help sometimes but it's not some golden key to manifesting. I have imagined things that never came to pass despite me forgetting about them. On the contrary, I sometimes affirmed/visualized for a thing until the last fucking minute before it showed up.

>>41303928
yeah i realise m8 as the only time i see attractive asian women are in videos on the social medias
anglo pig women i can accept as doing my duty

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>>41287451
A few days ago I had a dream where I was hanging out with my buddy and we came across and hung out with another old friend we haven't seen for a really long time since he left the country.
A day or two later I was driving around town and saw him down the street which is a strange coincidence but nothing a lot of you haven't experienced before. We met up with him just to catch up and were disappointed in how he changed for the worse which isn't something I expected but that's not the point I was going for.
This got me thinking about something;
Do we really manifest/create or do we predict using our intuition which starts operating during REM sleep?
Maybe it's not the conscious creation that brings things and people to our lives in sats or something similar, but that we manage to guess our way to our goals through the timeline and the result we get is simply because of the series of very small targets hit in succession.

>>41303945
my opinion is that dreams are more like radio-receiver ways of interacting with the extra dimension of thought. they're not necessarily going to manifest anything but you may tune to frequencies that are "in the air," which explains your experience. i don't have a lot of experience with prophetic dreams though, but i think "tuning into a certain frequency" sometimes seems prophetic when it's not really

>>41303906
Except 99% of these women dont have attractive faces, maybe 1 in 1000.

>>41303945
I've had many prophetic dreams (usually predicting sometimes that happened in 1-2 days) and no, it's different from conscious creation. Manifesting feels more like hammering in a visual/affirmation until it fucking sticks.
btw if you ever get a dream that is unpleasant and you have a feeling that it's prophetic then you can absolutely manifest that situation NOT happening. it's not set in stone.

>>41304044
*something

>>41304008
Yeah I had a feeling that something is already set in ond of the timelines and dreams can point you in the way to see or get that. But the very fact that our friend camd back into the country after the dream tells me it was more of a premonition than a manifestation.
>>41304044
Well, could you give me any advice on how to make sure I have dreams or even chose what to dream about?
I definitely didn't consciously have this one and I didn't decide on the topic either, it came out of the blue

>>41304086
I'm not sure, when I had a lot of those dreams I didn't specifically ask for them. I was generally in a mystical or "connected to the Source" type of mood.

>>41300663
Day 42(5) of manifesting a passionate, fruitful, lifelong and fulfilling marriage to a Proverbs 31 wife.

>>41304222
Stop posting this. Act as if, then come back in less than a month and tell us the success story.

>>41303814
>>41303807
>>41303788
I have the same experience is you. Down even to female friends hugging everyone in a group except me. I have had ugly/diagnosed autistic/old women hit on me or show interest, or if they're friends they'll get physically close to me and their body language would be different than women I'm attracted to. I've been called handsome enough to know I'm not full on ugly, and I'm 6'1 at around 10-12% BF with abs and decent sized arms, good job, hobbies and my own place, etc. Point is, I'm not the best looking guy, but I see guys way worse looking than me be with girls I'd be happy to be with.

However I've had a few rare exceptions where I had amazing chemistry with truly beautiful women. I even dated one.

I'm trying to understand what was different, and when I had chemistry with them, I always felt calm inside. This isn't the case with most women (even some unattractive ones), who I have a subtle anxiety around, or a constant desperate yearning that isn't there for women who I'm either not attracted to, or am comfortable with.

Maybe that's the secret. I'm trying to work on having that constant detached calmness, kinda like >>41291410 said.

>>41304028
>Except 99% of these women dont have attractive faces
We're here for their body, pal.
Western woman don't have nice face either body

Does anyone else suffer from self sabotage? I know exactly what I need to do to manifest my desire. But night after night I stay up too late and don’t do my visualization. It feels deeper than laziness because i’m not lazy in other facets of my life.

AI gf's will solve this problem soon anons, be patient until Elon releases your future spouse

>>41304618
Dont know abou American women, but in Europe there are plenty.

>>41304716
In the US they are not so cute if you remove the makeup, plus they have a crappy mentality, not wifey material at all.
They don't cook, don't clean, don't massage, don't sing, etc...

>>41304547
Man I am so sorry. At least I can “rationalize” in my head that my 5’ 6” height or fact that my arm is not as big or I don’t have 6 pack abs is the actual reason (even though I saw literally people same size and built then me easily find a girl)
I bet it drives you mad not understanding wtf is wrong with you, to make you despised like this, for absolutely no reason.
Sometimes I think I am just some entity laughing material and it enjoys tormenting me like this
And yeah, I seen people who look way worse than me have girls etc too

>>41304835
The place everyone live is also important to make friends and find gf's. Some cities are easier than others, even in neighborhoods in the same town they could be differences.
I am trying to find reasons to help you cope anon, lol
But that's true btw, some people are luckier than others to be in some places instead of some other ones, where mentalities are different, or where there are more girls maybe.

>>41304547
>I'm trying to understand what was different, and when I had chemistry with them, I always felt calm inside.
this is always it. you have no idea the potential you have if you are outgoing and calm inside. men are way too hard on themselves not knowing what potential they have. women are primarily attracted to personality/status and it's entirely fixable

I've been able to get stuff from sats and had sorta "prophetic" dreams though I don't like calling them as such, also hunches that turned out right and synchronicities.
Thing is, I genuinely can't do this on purpose no matter what, and I can't pinpoint how it even works behind the scenes and if I'm doing it right

>>41303945
You didn't "guess" it, you selected it. REM is just you without the daytime guard rails, i.e., closer to SATS. When you go drowsy, the state you actually live in bubbles up and sketches a scene, then 3D lines up the bridge. Call it intuition if you want, but intuition is just your chosen end leaking into awareness. You weren't predicting the friend, you were already on the track where he shows, and the dream was the preview.

>We met up with him just to catch up and were disappointed in how he changed for the worse which isn't something I expected but that's not the point I was going for.
That just shows the quality of your underlying state about him/people/reunions. You picked "we cross paths," but left the rest of it to be left for the universe to decide, so you got a neutral 3D.

>>41304812
i mean, would you cook, clean, sing and massage a 4chan incel along with working a full time? times have changed man, adapt or end up alone. or manifest it, but everyone’s dead set on complaining in this thread so they’re gonna get the exact opposite.

>>41304875
I am actually in a place that lots of shit happens. I go to parties, I dance, but nothing happens for me.
I am actually doing everything that suppose to get me a girl. Interesting, risk taker, exciting, fun, funny, everything
And again, if it was just rejected over my looks, that’s STILL hella acceptable than to have a girl talking to me for hours, literally laughing her ass off to my jokes. Ask me for social media and when I refuse cause I don’t have it, she STILL wants my number (like that desperate) only to ghost me in 2 days.
I can’t cope with this, no one can.
There is a reason that a lot of young people killed themselves during covid and those were just for not being with other people. Yet here I am, faced with contradictions everyday, messed with my brain and psyche constantly, and not suicidal yet. I don’t even drink or smoke, or do drugs.
Even my porn use is reduced to “instructional” ones (if and when I plan to) because I am so desperate for some girl just pay some attention to me and view sexually.
It’s a wonder why I am not balls deep into onlyfans rabbit hole yet lol
>>41304941
>outgoing
>calm
I am a guy who is introverted as fuck who throw myself so far outside of my own comfort box that people around me think I am super extroverted
Why? Cause all I wanted was to find a girl who ACTUALLY lust and desire me
Never happened
All I wanted to enjoy some easy afternoons with my girl, but now I am chasing dreams that never comes through, wearing 10 layers of fakeness on me, and still no result
And no, my “authentic” ass was just as loser if not more. At least my fake ones have some friends.
Something I noticed is that you can also be really good at something, but it really doesn’t matter if you are me. Women congratulate, then go for another guy. Kinda make me lose motivation of getting good at anything, because honestly, I am so much wrapped in made up personalities that I don’t even know if I have any hobby I truly enjoy.

>>41305134
Have you tried imagining scenarios that imply you are desirable?

>>41304835
>I bet it drives you mad not understanding wtf is wrong with you, to make you despised like this, for absolutely no reason.
Oh dude for real, it was maddening. I tried everything, I even asked women that didn't hate me what the fuck I'm doing wrong, on paper I should at least be able to find an okay girl to genuinely like me. But no, nothing. I haven't had a day I hadn't contemplated killing myself. Call it pathetic if you want but that's genuinely the thing I always wanted most in life. I mean we are literally turning to magic to try to get some pussy lmao.

At least, I used to. Recently I've given up entirely. At least logically, I've accepted I'm going to die alone. Of course, emotionally it's not as easy to detach, so it still hurts, but at least I try not to think about it anymore.

And you're right, a girl I used to like at work chose a short kinda chubby dude over me so you know it's not just looks. That's why I don't buy into the whole blackpill shit, first of all it's not useful to think like that, and second of all, I see plenty of counter examples IRL.

>>41304941
I hope you're right. That's my last ditch. I'm just going to focus on generating good feelings inside, independent of the outside, for it's own sake, and not as an effort to get women or anything other than the good feeling itself. It's difficult for a naturally neurotic person such as myself but it's worth a shot, better than living life with this constant dark cloud over your head.

>>41305134
Dude the more you write the more I think 'are you me', I went so far out of my comfort zone in every way imaginable just to end up more detestable than other dudes who are shy, neurotic and out of shape and do nothing to change it.
I went on a Europe trip with some friends and random people kept talking to me the whole damn trip anywhere we went (even though I didn't want that). Any time we're out with a group, homeless people, old transsexuals and other weird people keep talking to me out of the whole group. So you know it's not like I'm some super intimidating or offputting looking guys. And yet, for women (IE people I *actually* want to talk to) I have the opposite effect.

That makes me believe that the internal has some effect on it, but of course it's not obvious.

>>41305134
oh my god you guys are so gay, just live in the end

>>41305193
Trust me man. When I was in military I read the transurfing book in its entirety and visualized before sleep.
First person
But recently I took a mellow approach of “I might visualize few minutes every night etc” why? Because when you do too much, the worst you feel when the world contradict it. That’s why I can’t NEVER do 20 hours stuff (like some people here) cause I would get super depressed if it doesn’t work
So 5 minute visualization, and the rest ACTUAL improvement practices (gym, books, etc) for me and I feel happier at least I didn’t waste my life “much”
>>41305242
>>41305287
Hehe maybe we are just the laughing stick of the same entity. Maybe they are more of us lol
Actually, desu. I said I am not suicidal, but I wish to never wake up, cause there is nothing to look up to the next day. When days pass and your hair turns gray day by day, and yet you look back and your life seems the same, you lose the willingness to continue.
lol about you being extroverted
I remember I knew so many shits RANDOS who heard of me coming to me and talking to me about stuff or asking for advise. Like literally out of no where.
And despite all my issues, I try to not be shy, and sometimes I end up sitting at tables with women (which goes nowhere)
Like the other day I just rando talk to some girl while drinking some coke in a bar and all my friends thought I am hitting it off good.
I was just talking rando shit and trust me, internally I still knew I am gonna get ghosted if she gives me her number, let alone I offer it to her. So I let it slip, while telling my friend some bullshit excuses.
You know the worst part is that people think I am cool and chill, like I am stoic and I don’t give a fuck and all, but I am mess, and no one knows and no one cares if they knew (hence why I don’t tell them) I am talking about living with a burden that not even your family understands. This is the only place that knows me whole.

>>41305287
Oh and something funny, my astrological sign is cancer, but I born after 12.
So I am emotional, like strong emotions and have good “intuition”, but I am ALSO shelter those emotions and never reveal them until I TRUST SOMEONE FULLY.
basically, I am full of this emotional energy, but unlike normal cancers, I can’t even unleash it into the world, unless I know someone who I let to know me fully (which is love in my opinion, to see me vulnerable) which can’t never happen because for some reason, no women ever wants me.
So I am stuck in this tormenting limbo
How is that for a walking contradiction and internal turmoil? Lol

>>41304978
So you think dreams like that are retrocausality or something else?
How do I trigger them on purpose? I don't really remember doing anything distinctive compared to every other night I go to bed

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>>41298420
Just dropping by this gay thread to say, I went through with it.
Had sort of a tantric masturbation, didn't actually use porn but something else as aid, plus meditation and binaural
didn't coom, felt satisfied as fuck, no leftover desire to fap
also felt energized and can testify for the increased psychic power

>>41305524
I never understood how people are able to combine LoA and astrology. If one is to believe that the content of his mind shapes the reality he experiences then how do you get to the conclusion that some specific arrangement of stars mean anything?

>>41305714
It’s because I felt like this EVEN BEFORE I knew wtf astrology is.
And it fucking matches me
Do I fully believe it? No, but the way it matches me, it’s crazy.
>>41305287
Man I just saw this and now I am genuinely feel messed up
>>41303926

>>41305074
>i mean, would you cook, clean, sing and massage a 4chan incel along with working a full time? times have changed man,
I understand what you mean pal but with all due respect you fell for the feminist psyop. Women are happier at home doing all of this while the man provides.
Time changed as you say, because (they) wanted it to change to scramble society.. Ask yourself why (they) wanted women to go to work too like men.
And look at our grandparents marriage, they lasted their whole life, woman at home raising kids men outside bringing home the bacon. That's the best model. Even women realise it after they understand the psyop. At least the smart ones.

>>41305134
>I am actually in a place that lots of shit happens. I go to parties, I dance, but nothing happens for me.
My advice would be to aim for 1-3/10 women and try to date those to build some confidence. Then progressively up your game.
Even 1/10 girls reject you?

>>41305714
because its obviously something who isn't actually doing LoA, just larping

>>41305287
>Dude the more you write the more I think 'are you me',
NTA but I guess we are all like him in this general lol. As he said we turn to magic to get girls it made me laugh, but let's be honest it's pathetic. We are all intelligent genuine guys who just want a simple life with someone we connect with, we want to be happy and make someone happy, it's like if a special force prevented us from getting that simple thing all NPCs get without any effort.
It seems to me girls prefer to go with bad guys, the ones who will make them suffer, instead of cool kind simple guys. These crappy guys are easy to spot, but still, women prefer them.
Nothing makes sense anymore.

>>41305664
Call it retrocausality if you want, but the useful frame is just selection. You picked a track, your sleeping mind previewed a scene from that track, then 3D lined up to meet it. Whether time "ran backward" is a nerd fight, the lever is the same, just set the end before sleep and let the dream show you the waypoint.

If you want to trigger it on purpose, incubate it. Just do basic SATS. Go to bed drowsy and give your mind one tight prompt, not a wishlist: "Tonight I dream a clear scene that implies ___, and I remember it on waking." Then loop a 10–15 second clip that already contains the implication, your friend laughing in a bar you haven't been to in years, you scrolling a message that says "landed," whatever fits. Keep it first person, boringly normal, and stop after a minute. Don't chase emotion, just make it feel like any other day.

Use the middle-of-the-night window. Wake-back-to-bed after 4–6 hours hits REM hard. Sit up for 5 minutes, repeat the intention once, drop back in with the same tiny clip. When you wake, don't move and justbreplay the last dream for ten seconds, then jot a one line headline. That trains recall and tightens the loop. Do it three nights in a row before you judge it, "I tried once" energy kills it.

You need to give your sleeping mind a simple target and staying out of the way. Treat the dream as a preview/bridge, revise it if it comes out off tone, and keep picking the same end. The more ordinary you make it, the more often it shows.

>>41305861
>It seems to me girls prefer to go with bad guys
Empathetic caring men (those I'd date if I were a woman) don't arouse any interest in today's women, sadly.

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>>41305907
Btw anon I'm the SATS anon who did the SATS general.
Not sure if you're the guy spreading my SATS threads but I appreciate it. I quit making the generals because I was tired of the fucking derailers all the time, or the people claiming I was just "overthinking it" when all the evidence I had said otherwise.
It's good to see either way more anons are realising this is the reason they're failing though.
For example the whole gf topic rn, this is easily manifestable if you can do that lucid dreamy SATS state.
You could literally be goblin tier and manifest stacy wanting your dick.

Hey can someone give me a few sentences on the four-dimensional thinking/time is an illusion aspect?

what the fuck is this general even, the last 50 posts are just bitching about bitches

>>41305898
>>41305861
I have actually had a woman tell me she wasn't attracted to some guy at work because he was too nice. She said it in a way to imply that she would otherwise be attracted to him. I know she was talking about me as well via subtext, but of course most women wouldn't be that direct. Not only that, but this woman is already married, so who knows why she said it to me in the first place.

I don't know if it's women today, or if women have always been this way. I suspect it's both, but perhaps more extreme today in the west.

It seems to me that a highly spiritual life for a man is virtually incompatible with being with women. When I was a "bad boy" back in my 20's, I got plenty of women. Since I have focused on purifying myself and pursuing spirituality, I have not had a single woman.

>>41305950
Ask yourself this: Is it possible to experience anything other than the present moment? Even when you think about the past or future you are doing it NOW.

>>41305958
its terrible, i miss the UL/ONE threads

>>41301901
Very nice

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>>41287451
Anybody wanna join the OG LOA chat
Loaing since 2021.
https://t. me/+WSyXbVGrDeVjN2U8

>>41305894
> just set the end before sleep and let the dream show you the waypoint.
This is starting to make sense, I've always stood behind the idea that you need to trust your gut
> Keep it first person, boringly normal, and stop after a minute. Don't chase emotion, just make it feel like any other day.
Why does every guru say keep the scene emotion packed? I mean what you said is what I'd find easier to do instead of giving myself a sensory overload in my vision
> Use the middle-of-the-night window. Wake-back-to-bed after 4–6 hours hits REM hard. Sit up for 5 minutes, repeat the intention once, drop back in with the same tiny clip. When you wake, don't move and justbreplay the last dream for ten seconds, then jot a one line headline. That trains recall and tightens the loop. Do it three nights in a row before you judge it, "I tried once" energy kills it.
I'll try this next time, couldn't hurt
> The more ordinary you make it, the more often it shows.
You mean ordinary as in makes sense to be real for me? Like instead of manifesting being an astronaut, I manifest a small gambling win or a better job?
>>41305948
Why do you get bothered by them? Just post what you wanted to and share your knowledge and you'll help someone like myself, there has to be anons who are interested in a crowd of coomers

>>41305894
>Use the middle-of-the-night window. Wake-back-to-bed after 4–6 hours hits REM hard. Sit up for 5 minutes, repeat the intention once, drop back in with the same tiny clip. When you wake, don't move and justbreplay the last dream for ten seconds, then jot a one line headline. That trains recall and tightens the loop.

Can you elaborate on how to do this? Just set an alarm and wake up, tell yourself what your goal is, then go back to SATS and to sleep? What am I jotting down when I wake up?

>>41305791
women are not some separate species, they dislike labor as much as men. saying they’re happier staying at home because it conveniences you to have a bangmaid doesn’t make it true. they were on antidepressants and qualudes in this golden era men always want to go back to. remember that a 9 to 5 ends and you get to relax but cooking and cleaning and caring for kids never does. someone happy with their situation doesn’t protest and go out of their way to earn rights to work. is it true happiness if it’s your only option?

developing empathy for your fellow humans will only help you. it’s very easy to want to lower the weaker sex into work you don’t want to do, but it’s the trait of someone lacking empathy, and that’s no place to manifest from. she’ll only resent you and see you as a child, then you’ll wonder why she no longer wants to fuck.

>>41305948
>Not sure if you're the guy spreading my SATS threads but I appreciate it.
No prob:)
I manifested climbing a ladder thanks to sats and it blew my mind!
But nothing else unfortunately after I tried again with something else, including Stacy
Also one problem I can see with sats is (I could be wrong) you can only manifest one thing at a time. You have to enter this state every night until you feel you have your wish fulfilled, then you can proceed with another one. And all of this could take ages if you have several wishes to manifest.
But it's a very interesting technique, I am still shocked by the ladder I climbed out of nowhere.

>>41306114
Nta but the guy he replied to, I've heard of the technique before. From what I remember you go to bed like you usually would but set an alarm to go off in 3-4 hours. After getting woken up, go take a piss or smoke a cigarette and go to bed again but visualize everything you need

>>41306133
It's not about empathy anon, we were as humans designed like this. The woman gives birth to kids and raises them, while the man is out chasing for food. It's always been like this since ages, that's the way nature works for us. Going against this is a sure way to dismantle a society.
Letting women get busy at home is not a lack of respect to them, the counterpart is the man has to give them love, safety, on top of food. Women are not a different species nor machines, they need love and attention ofc and men have to provide these too. That's called balance and harmony.
If women work outside they cant rale care of the kids, and also men have less opportunities for work, all of this causes problems.
At least if you want your woman to work outside, then stay at home raising your kids and cleaning. One has to do it. If both are outside it's not possible.
Anyway I know I wont change your mind because feminists can't, you won't change mine either. This society is down because of this at the first place.

>>41305988

It is always now. There is never anything lacking in the present moment.

>>41306018
go make one then

>>41306211
You cannot experience it though

>>41305958

If you're in alignment with God / Nature / Tao / whatever, you will meet your match.

If you're trying LOA to manifest desire, you will soon learn the limits of desires.

>>41306208
>society is down bc half of my species doesn’t want their only option in life to be a caretaker
that’s the lack of empathy i’m talking about. there’s nuance to history and it’s not as simple as “this is what women and men have always done”. btw feminism only means equal rights. using it as an insult is like saying men wanting to not be seen as less than women is stupid.

I know I won’t change your mind but that’s okay because society only moves forward - the developed world is not going to sink back to what it was. the most prosperous countries are not the ones where women are just babymakers.

btw I don’t believe that 2025 is the the peak of society, I think that falls somewhere between the 80s and 90s. choice is always good, and either parent being able to stay home and care for the kids should be an option. it just shouldn’t be forced.

>>41306165
If you can do it correctly, you can do multiple different topics.
Because the SATS masters just do the scene until they reach the wish fulfilled, which is a very distinct feeling where you're so sure you have your desire it's unshakable. It's not something you can fake that feeling. It's an unshakeable knowledge that you have your desire or that's coming to you soon. One guy I talked to had this feeling when he did SATS for a wife, he told me that he was so sure it was done he could bet his house on it that his desire was coming. And a few weeks later he met his wife that he had imagined and now he's happily married with a kid.
So you will KNOW when you do it correctly, but he also managed to slip into that dreamy state which is why it manifested. Also he was basically an incel until he was 30 so yeah wouldn't have happened otherwise.
Lastly my point by saying that was that once you reach that "it's done" feeling, you can just do SATS for other things.

>>41306291
So if you have aphantasia you're fucked.

>>41306311
no, there’s other forms of imagination. you can repeat a phase over an over, or just hold the feeling of your desire already being yours.

I beg all of you to just read Neville and especially his 5 Lessons series. it appears that 99% of people here haven’t, and are just complaining about getting no bitches

>>41306255
i will take that comment under advice

>>41305505
>When days pass and your hair turns gray day by day, and yet you look back and your life seems the same, you lose the willingness to continue.
Wait until your hair start falling, that's when the true depression begins.

>>41306341

Rushing into action, you fail.
Trying to grasp things, you lose them.
Forcing a project to completion,
you ruin what was almost ripe.

Therefore the Master takes action
by letting things take their course.
He remains as calm at the end
as at the beginning.
He has nothing,
thus has nothing to lose.
What he desires is non-desire;
what he learns is to unlearn.
He simply reminds people
of who they have always been.
He cares about nothing but the Tao.
Thus he can care for all things.

>>41306311
No not exactly, I've seen cases of people also getting into that lucid SATS state even with that condition. They would just have an idea of what they're trying to visualise and eventually it would appear and come alive once they reach that sweet spot.
So you can still do lucid SATS, you just need to be in the right state, but if it's hard for you to do already than it might feel too random trying to reach that state.

so can someone explain how you even control SATS? i've never experienced anything remotely like this. i can tell i was falling asleep when i start losing control of my thoughts, so there's a boundary of control/not-thinking there that makes no sense. i do believe going to bed is a good time to implant some thoughts but sheesh i'm not going to obsess over whether i was in SATS or not

>>41287550
based

>>41306435
just start visualizing as soon as you close your eyes and bring your focus back to it when it wanders. don’t worry if you’re in sats or not

>>41306399
alright well
as long as i get a girlfriend before Christmas

>>41306063
>Why does every guru say keep the scene emotion packed?
I don't know, I don't really care what they say, I just follow Neville. Neville's feeling just means acceptance, not fireworks. Like what you desire is just a very normal part of your life, like eating breakfast. If hype helps you, fine, but most people don't really do a good job doing it that way. The most reliable switch is naturalness. Again just make it feel like any other day. First person, short, boringly real. That's what sticks.

>You mean ordinary as in makes sense to be real for me? Like instead of manifesting being an astronaut, I manifest a small gambling win or a better job?
Ordinary doesn't mean small” It just means mundane implication of the big thing. Like an astronaut doesn't need a IMAX launch scene, in SATS just would just be a 15 second clip of you badging past a NASA door, strapping into a simulator, or texting "debrief went clean." Billionaires don't need confetti, it's you skimming an ops email and seeing the extra zeros and just scrolling by it like nothing. Big desire, ordinary slice. That's how your nervous system stops arguing with yourself and you can set yourself in the state.

>>41306114
Yes. Set an alarm for 4–6 hours after sleep. When it goes off, sit up for 3–5 minutes in low light, no phone. Say one clean line out loud or in your head: "Tonight I dream a clear scene that implies ____ and I remember it on waking." Run the same 10–15s first-person clip that implies the goal, loop it a few times, then roll over and knock out. No excitement, just a normal day vibe.

>Just set an alarm and wake up, tell yourself what your goal is, then go back to SATS and to sleep? What am I jotting down when I wake up?
Just don't move. Rewind the last dream for 10 seconds, lock the gist, then grab the notebook by your bed and jot a one-line headline: who/where + the key beat + the feel. Rinse for 3 nights before judging.

reminder to stop digging up the seeds in the soil

>>41307052
Explain. What does and doesn’t count as doing this?

>>41305813
Lmao, this is horrible advice for him.
You won't suddenly get hot gfs if you settle for an ugly/fat practice gf, and it will just make him miserable if he's walking outside next to an ugly bitch and all the pretty girls pass him by. If you don't have looks and height in 2025, you're just screwed as a man. No amount of "just be confident" cope will fix this if he has a lifetime of rejections from pretty girls.

>>41287451
How to fix my life and get rid of all negative stuff
I feel like my life was pre planned and cant do much about it

>>41307969
attack people for their opinions of you

>>41307661
Read Neville, it's in the OP.

so the model of reality you guys believe in is like some sort of client server model where we have our own sovereign dream bubbles but are playing a sync'd local client copy of a common game, and it desyncs more and more as we exercise our dreamer powers?

>>41308657
nah
the Tetragrammaton is more like a vending machine
higher beings like angels are client models
we just put rubles into machines like automatons
fortunately we were given high nerve density sexual organs and high tolerance chemical doping mechanisms

>>41308657
Pretty close, but tweak the metaphor a little bit. There isn't a central server outside you handing out ticks, the server is the one awareness (I AM) and each of us is a viewport. What you call your client renders whatever state you're logged into. Shared 3D feels synced because there's a thick layer of collective assumptions (physics, money, tuesday at 3pm) acting like common assets. When you exercise dreamer powers, you're not breaking netcode, you're just selecting a different build of the scene. Two things happen, either the overlap pulls others along via a bridge (their roles, memories, circumstances adjust to fit), or you find yourself with the versions of them already matching your selection. That's your desync, but from inside it just reads as normal continuity.

Think of it like a single player with massive shared libraries. Your instance is sovereign at the level of state, the world-stream looks stable because most people never change their loadout. Change your state and your renderer swaps assets, same map, different spawns, different dialogue.

>>41307720
>>41305813
Worst than that dude
I fucking tried and my dick got super soft when she got naked
She was like 1/10
Built like a fridge no ass
Poor girl was really hurt by me not being able to do anything and I felt really bad to hurt her like this
So for women sake and my own sake, I won’t go out with below 4/10
If I can’t get hard to them, I can’t be a good lover and I refuse to escalate

>>41305861
lol maybe all of us we cursed
In my opinion, girls like bad good nice whatever
I have a friend who is super nice and text back fast and triple texts and no women ever called him a no life loser and he sle with dozens of women so far
If a woman like you, she will excuse every issue you have, way worst than men do it it’s hot toxic women
>>41306382
I understand your pain man. I am sorry
>>41305964
What do you mean by bad boy? Can you tell me what you did?
If by bad you mean teasing I do that a lot
But o admit people call me nice and kind and maybe that’s why people talk to me cause I appear non threatening and friendly maybe

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>>41306018
I think you didn't want them around enough to prevent them from getting killed. I could try and bake one tho, if anyone is interested, they are done with the pastebin and the codex already, and i won't mind /one/ coming back. This general is dreadfully boring.

>>41306291
>Lastly my point by saying that was that once you reach that "it's done" feeling, you can just do SATS for other things.
Thanks for the advice mate.
When I manifested the ladder though, I didnt have this unshakable feeling, on the contrary I was sure this was woowoo new age stuff. I just imagined myself climbing a ladder for 3 nights and stopped. Then I climbed a ladder 15 days later.
So I'm not sure about the unshakable feeling to be frank, if it's really required. What i know is i used all my senses to get the best feeling while imagining, but i was still pretty much convinced it wouldnt happen in the 3D.

>>41306504
>as long as i get a girlfriend before Christmas
Better after, so you don't have to spend money in gifts hahaha

>>41308797
>Worst than that dude
>I fucking tried and my dick got super soft when she got naked
>She was like 1/10
>>41307720
Guys I reckon it was a bad advice, either for you and for the girl. Sorry.

>>41309015
Here's one anon who's interested.

>>41305964

You get what you give.

If you are in alignment with God / Nature / Tao you will get your match. Just do not expect a sex life existing other than for the purpose of procreation, as God wants it. You can evoke a woman's inner child, that pure innocent soul who looks up to and defers to you, if you can evoke divinity in yourself.

You cannot expect recreational sex without consequence. Animal instincts are in opposition to divinity.

>>41309126
Well, have a blast >>41309060 It's up. /one/ is back.

>>41309110
hahah nah fuck that
gonna make a baby on Christmas

>>41309130
Amazing, everything you said is wrong

>>41300132
>>41299778
wait /one/ threads are done? I managed to save some links and replies from anons, what happened? I thought it was gonna be a constant general. Well in any case I hope there's stuff saved in the archives so I can still look it up. also someone posted this https://pastebin.com/NZ17CvP0 7 days ago.

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>>41305948
>>41305907
>fucking lmao at that story with picture at the end
anyway, I appreciate both, thanks to reading that thread I was able to experience actual vivid SATS that night
since then I'm been sleeping too fast, maybe because of tiredness, maybe just not remembering, or maybe just weak focus on the intention since then

but anyway, another great material came to me in the form of hemisync/gateway
coincidence that the general came back not long after being mentioned here? I don't think so
but its quite literally the key to mastering this, its one of the actual states mentioned in the project,
I'm ready to take my next step into mastering this stuff, here we go boys, wgmi

pic related, randomly picked up from gallery without actually reading it

>>41309165
I think the reason why it fell off was because, on /one/ hand, they needed at least 10 thread to stop the infighting among this general and the other, and in other hand, the material was not done, and there was no clear direction as some newcomers pointed out. Fortunately, the resources are all released and ready, so we'll see if with this second round survives with a solid community behind it. It's a great idea for /x/ and its good to have an alternative to this one that's more /adv/ and /r9k/ meet /x/ than actual manifestation stuff.

>>41305894
Interesting, I'm the anon drawing parallels with the Gateway stuff,
I've noticed a lot lately I tend to wake up rather early, go take a piss and then go backto sleep some more, and everytime I try to keep up with the manifestation feeling of before, not always successfully coming back to sleep though

One thing I've noticed is that definitely, keeping a simple straight line and short loop is easier to keep focus reaching SATS
after my first actual vivid SATS, I've struggling keeping focus while coming back, though I still wake up with the same thing in my mind and the feeling its done

Today specifically was funny one, I was a bit hangover, got up, took a piss and drank some water, went back to sleep with a fuzzy feeling of SATS, one thing I can tell is I wasn't really focused at all and quickly drove back to sleep
However I woke up feeling someone on top of me, I instinctively knew 100%, wasn't even like a dream, but like I was waking up with someone beside me in bad, and I gently groped and kissed her (an actual SP btw), as you would waking up with a lover by your side
and then I guess she got startled and vanished, the feeling was incredibly real though

I had a few similar cases happen before, usually not related with manifestation at all, such as meeting my far away father, or in another instance something I instantly recognized as non-human
Can I safely assume these are actual psychic encounters? that the other part also felt it?

Here's how to enter sats successfully, the only non woowoo video I could find
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mRVFjOf0R34&pp=ygURSG93IHRvIGVudGVyIHNhdHPSBwkJ_AkBhyohjO8%3D

>>41307052
>>41307661
It means once its done you shouldn't digging it deeper/again as it obviously would prevent the germinated seed from actually growing

I have a problem, bros. I can visualize really well with my eyes open and I have borderline photographic memory, but when I close them the images get all blurry.

>>41309431
The images don't need to be in 4K, your dreams aren't always HD either but you know who or what exactly you dreamed of.
If you have an issue visualizing something that helps for those who get distracted should help you too. Keep switching your focus back to your body's position until you feel like you're dropping down, then visualize

>>41309431
You dont need to do it with your eyes closed. Neville once shared that his dad visualizes like you do. In that same lecture he recommended focusing on a singular object or point within your vision. Try visualizing with your eyes open before bed and just letting your eyes naturally close as you get too sleepy to keep them open. That other anon gave some good advice, too. What really matters is that it feels real, emotionally and/or physically. Ideally both, but dont fret if you can only hit one itll still manifest.

>>41309527
I think a good technique would be that you use your real memory for reference and then replace the main detail or details with your objective, that would make the image much clearer and easier to paint.
Like for example if you want to manifest a specific girl, you remember your dates with your previous girlfriend and the details of holding hands etc but then replace her with the new girl you want
Or if you want a new car remember driving your old one but replace the dash and steering wheel

>>41309625
The last part is literally how I manifested a BMW, I used my Ford for reference and replaced the interior and controls in my visualization, I used a video of a dude driving the one I want to help construct the dream.
The bridge of incidents as Neville called it took s couple of steps so I managed to get extra money unexpectedly and I just happened to find a good E46 for sale

>>41309638
nice

>>41309327
How do we know it's done? I've had successful manifestations where I never had this 'done' feeling that everyone talks about.

ahh yeah the feeling of no girlfriend

>>41309647
It's gonna feel like a memory or like you actually have that exact thing in a different/parallel reality
Basically once you're relaxed and with zero doubt about it, it's gonna work. Doubting or wondering if it's gonna work is the exact opposite of what you need.
I'm 99% sure Neville talked about this when he mentioned Abdullah telling him to stfu about the ways of getting to Barbados because asking how he's gonna get there would mean he's not there and has to figure it out

>>41309670
How could Neville go to the harbor to board a ship (when he got the ticket) if he was supposed to live as if he already was in Barbados? Isn't that admitting that he was still in New York?

>>41309722
The best understanding I have is that he or anyone else practicing this needs to actively ignore the evidence of something not being real or not being real yet in order to avoid impressing your subconscious with the info that contradicts what you wanna manifest.
That's probably why SATS shits on other techniques because it's hands down the most reliable way of loading the subconscious mind with things.
So you don't necessarily need to be delusional, your conscious logical mind can look at and understand that what you wanted isn't here but it's very important to keep that information out of your subconscious and emotions.

>>41309722
That's why
casting spell > living in the end
you get rid of this kind of conundrums.

>>41309101
I think that's pretty normal for most people, as it's quite easy to manifest a ladder as most people barely have resistance to the idea and it's easy to forget.
But say like if you're a lonely incel, your resistance to getting a gf is very high.
So simple visualising is not enough, you'd need to reach that unshakable feeling.

>>41309797
i need to try the protracted ladder experiment
put the gf aside for a week and concentrate on climbing the ladder up and down, deconstructing the ladder, building my own ladder, comparing my ladder to the ladder of another, falling off the ladder, seeing a black cat walk under the ladder, have the ladder dissolve into sand as i prostrate it

>>41309797
Yeah, the probability of getting it is proportional to how much in your head it makes sense of it being possible for you.
Just trying to make this clear, why do we accidentally manifest the weirdest and most random/unlikely shit without consciously making an effort of constructing a scene and living in the end etc?
Maybe the ladder experiment clears up the confusion mentioned here >>41309722
The ladder exercise usually involves you writing and saying I will NOT climb a ladder during the waking hours using the normal, conscious part of your noodle.
That proves that only the subconscious needs to hold a thought and that Neville didn't need to circumvent the evidence of not being in Barbados.
This is a good thread, we haven't discussed the methods for a while like this

>>41309819
Neville said to take action when it's clear you're on the bridge of incidents. So when he imagined going to Barbados for a month. Obviously his brother sending him money requesting him to come to barbados was the manifestation. It's not like he'd teleport to Barbados if he just continued imagining. I don't even believe that it was his continued imagining all day when he was seeing new york as Barbados. Because thats not as an effective technique as SATS. Neville literally said anyway he was doing SATS at night imagining he was there. But he likely was already doing the lucid SATS as he was describing the scene he did in immersive detail.
Also yes if you wake up from a SATS scene with the unshakeable feeling than nothing you tell yourself will stop that SATS scene from happening. Which is why you can put notes up saying it won't happen and the scene will still come to pass.
This definitely isn't the case if you don't reach that unshakable feeling however.

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>>41309647
Like many others said already, you will just know,
there is no hint of doubt, and you pretty much forget about it as you would about something you already have

one thing people take for granted here, is the point of "PRACTICE" (ing) it,
most probably self inducing SATS to begin with, and with everything in life, its like a skill you have to develop
self relaxation, focus, mental clarity, even confidence and belief, will come with practice, just keep doing it
as general rule start with things that feel more attainable, not because its harder to manifest, but because its harder to convince oneself that its possible
with smaller successes not only ability grows stronger but also one's belief in the process, it stops being something you have to assume to being something you know that is

Also a big point most ignore, its way easier to manifest self change, for example, self suggesting "I have great focus"
is already a huge plus feeds itself on the process, the results tend to come much faster then things that depend more on the "external" or so to speak

>>41307052
That being said, I'd like to consult with other successful anons though
once you get the feeling, do you keep manifesting for other stuff? Or do you intentionally stop until seeing the result and move on to the next goal?
Since it has become sort of a habit of mine falling asleep like that, I kinda don't want to stop.

>>41309638
>so I managed to get extra money unexpectedly
I thought with loa you could get the car for free. Disappointed.

>>41309722
Not the best example friend since Neville didnt do anything special he got the money from his rich brother to go to Barbados.

>>41309841
This
Manifestation doesn't materialize things in front of you, it creates the unlikely opportunities for you to get that thing and you need your intuition to be working correctly in order to recognize these opportunities and take them.
SATS is 100% the most important aspect of all this because literally everything you imagine in it is gonna get placed in your subconscious and it's gonna start doing it's job the second you wake up.
Main focus should be practicing meditation and tuning the intuition which can be harder because too much intuition is paranoia or delusion and gives you false positives while too little intuition is you just being an NPC and going through your day.
I need to keep working on that and would appreciate any solid advice from anons.

>>41309946
Manifestation indeed materializes in front if you, just because you haven't done it, doesn't mean it isn't how it can work