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Previous >>41280511

>3i/Atlas Tracker
https://theskylive.com/3dsolarsystem?objs=c2025n1

>Latest update

https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/ESA_s_ExoMars_and_Mars_Express_observe_comet_3I_ATLAS

>14 Anomalies about the 3i Atlas Object

Provided by DobsonianPower YouTube Channel
https://youtu.be/m40gXjIu1x8

1. It is traveling too fast to be a comet
2. It is too bright to be a comet
3. No Gas Tail
4. Anti-tail gases escaping in a sunward direction
5. The object is traveling on the ecliptic plane of our solar system
6. The object is traveling < .5AU from Mars, Venus, and Jupiter
7. The object comes from somewhere in the Sagittarius constellation
8. The object will not be visible from Earth for a time because it will be hidden by the sun
9. Images of the object from the JWST were censored (pixelated)
10. The object is off gassing more CO2 than is typical for a comet
11. Ni to Fe ratio is extremely low
12. The object exhibits extreme negative polarization
13. The color of the object keeps changing at a high rate and quickly
14. Unexplained light bursts/fluctuations

>Other oddities that may or may not be related:

The scientific community is unable to pin down the size and weight

There is a lack of conversation about the object in the scientific community

The object exhibits little to no spin or rotation

It is maintaining its trajectory and not being affected by the sun like a typical comet would be

A large amount of "drones" have been sighted over European airports since the object was detected

Up to 11 other comets have been detected entering the inner solar system since the object was detected

An increase in solar activity

https://youtu.be/Sgm3hNFKEbc

>sources:
YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/@DobsonianPower
https://www.youtube.com/@TheAngryAstronaut
https://www.youtube.com/@DiegoSanAraujo/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@GaleriaDoMeteorito
https://www.youtube.com/@StefanBurns

>Avi Loeb
https://avi-loeb.medium.com/
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First for fuck space niggers and space jews.
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>>41288128
Give me the space catgirls
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>>41288128
is it really slowing down?
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>>41283907
if true
please god have anthro animal babes with thick thighs and big tits and fluffy tails
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Digits and its aliens
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digs and its and it's absolutely nothing
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should I buy a gun to kms with if they decide to invade?
or will it be too late once they're here?
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>>41288325
Prepare ur anus
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>>41288128
space niggers aint welcomed
kill all space niggers
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so how can I personally first hand confirm anything about 3i? its not like I can just look at it and track it trajectory myself to see if its doing anything out of the ordinary, I cant even really check whether it exists or if its all a hoax
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>>41288329
I think I'd rather kms
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>>41288325
Why would you need a gun to kys yourself?
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>>41288338
>its not like I can
But you can.
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So what's the new meme happening date
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>>41288353
no I can not, even with a telescope you need a 3rd party info on where to look which could be just more made up bs and I will still have no idea if what I see is 3i
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>>41288325
fuck that, buy a gun to shoot the alien motherfuckers
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>>41288375
>translation: i'm a lazy faggot
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>>41288348
speed
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>>41288372
Any day now...it will deaccelerate, anyyy dayyy noww....
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>>41288384
oh I get it now, you convinced me all your schizo theories to be real
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>>41288372
Early to mid november when it comes out from behind the sun. we can recalculate its trajectory and figure if its still on its original path... or if Its Comin Right For US
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>>41288401
>so how can i personally first hand confirm that protozoa exist? it's not like i can just look at it and spot them myself
>no i can not, even with a microscope you need a 3rd party info on what a protozoan looks like and it could just be made up bus and i will still have no idea if what i see is just particles
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>>41288411
Or it may just change its trajectory when its out of view and slam into the sun.
Hard to say at this point.
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>>41288445
>disappears behind the sun for a month
>reappears and zooms off never to be seen again
>it was just a sunsipper refuelling
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thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV3pR87L-T8
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>>41288496
Day is night in New York City
Smoke, like water, runs inside
Steel idle trees to pity
Every livin' thing that's died
Gonna hitch a ride
Head for the other side
Leave it all behind
Never change my mind
Gonna sail away
Sun lights another day
Freedom on my mind
Carry me away for the last time
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>>41288128
Atlas will be a nothing Burger literaly nothing will happen
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>>41288523
It's the third interstellar comet ever observed. That's something.
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>>41288480
I remember this video. Was that a hoax? Or that really was something drinking sun juice? This was so long ago.
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>>41288648
It's called solar prominence.
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>>41288496
based, have another one
https://youtu.be/iAH9yD4Sxqo?si=uLNZoNbWEKiqN_is
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>>41288708
Im talking about the dark sphere not the solar "hair"
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I wonder why nobody has mentioned the most obvious theory yet: Feanor has been reborn, and 3I/Atlas is actually Earendil's ship. He will return the Silmaril to its maker, so its light can be used to revive the two trees after the final battle against Melkor. This also explains the strange shifts in coloration; its light is hallowed by the Vala so mortal sensors can't analyze its spectrum.
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>>41288718
There's no sphere there.
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>>41288723
Sure there "isn't" anything weird there wink wink
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>>41288722
Given how our world is going, maybe Earth is unknowingly hosting Morgoth, or some lieutenant of his
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>>41288723
Kill yourself yid
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>>41288788
No. Your move.
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David Grusch worked for Special Technical Operations (STO) J-33 (patch in picrel). This fact was omitted in his CV submitted to Congress.

>J-33 is the highest echelon military entity dedicated to offensive INFORMATION WARFARE. It supports the CIA and NSA in their operational missions, such as hacking, concealment, and DECEPTION.
>J-33's operations branch controls the Special Technical Operations Center within the Pentagon. The center is the most secure facility within the U.S. military. Dozens of special access (or "black") programs are monitored at the center. These include the United States's own hacking activities, STRATEGIC PSYCHOLOGICAL, CONCEALMENT AND DECEPTION operations.

However, in his CV ( https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO06/20230726/116282/HHRG-118-GO06-Bio-GruschD-20230726.pdf ) you can see that he's ALSO been a commanding officer of the 318th Cyberoperations Information Warfare Center until just one year ago:

>The squadron conducts training on cyberspace operations, including operational security and DECEPTION at both the initial and advanced level.

These Pentagon Information Warfare programs have been waging meme war through social media and, as you know, 4chan, for years:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/19/pentagon-psychological-operations-facebook-twitter/

https://youtu.be/UTLHmbbI8ik

QRD: Grusch 100% confirmed psyop disinfo glowie. You've probably called him a glowfag before on this very board

>now behold the glowfag seething ITT
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>>41288939
No.
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>>41288949
Wherever I am, I belong.
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>>41288937
All this crap just to say it's project blue balls. I wanted my time reading. The comet or space ship or your fat mom falling in the sky is real. It's not a hologram.
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>>41288966
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>>41289077
There's a special retardation that makes someone assume two things with the same general topic are part of some unified "theory of everything"
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>>41288258

No. Stop believing AI slop on YT and tiktok
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>>41289094

What the fuck
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>>41289111
>your an idiot
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>>41288185
there are none of these. there are however space chinks, which i guess they are both niggers and jews on steroids.
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>>41288268
>>41288279
trips and they take you for a space trip.
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>>41288128
Now That's What I Call an Orb!
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>>41289108
Is it really slowing down if i saw it here?
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>>41289273
Trips and they land directly on your house crushing it in the process
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dubs and they will come for me specifically and take me away
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>>41288185
fpbp
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>>41289390
Will it make you feel better if Atlas is not even at the closest it's gonna get to Earth yet?
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Dubs and they just project a hologram of a giant middle finger and proceed to fly back away
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Dubs and everyone here will have to surrender to our futa catgirl overlords
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>>41289393
I'd rather it be me
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>>41289422
FUCK
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>>41289445
It's not like they'd implement a mandate for impregnating human men
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>>41289422
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If you foresaw your civilization lasting a few more billion years, and you intended on sending a craft around the galaxy (manned or unmanned) to hunt for life wouldn’t you:
1. Shield it from radiation and/or reflect radiation with an ungodly thick layer of metal? If your craft can communicate via entanglement, then the shield thickness wouldn’t matter as opposed to if you needed to transmit a strong signal with EMF.
2. It would behoove the mission if said metal could attract water ice that could be directed/accumulated to different parts of the hull. Water ice sublimating can be used for vectoring from one target star system to another as an assist to slingshot mechanics.
3. If for whatever reason water-requiring life were aboard, having a frozen sea attached to your ship to draw from would benefit their stasis.

If Loeb anon is right, this chain of thought could explain the possibility of it being ET tech.
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>>41289422
will they bring exotic lubricants from the stars or will we suffer raw?
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>>41289422
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>>41288128
I had a dream of evil beings coming associated with this thing. Then some minor mishaps that cost me $220 or so occurred. Felt as if I were under magick attack.
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>>41289415
I want this to happen soooo bad
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>>41289647
>I had a dream of evil beings coming associated with this thing.
You're not the only one.
https://youtu.be/Yfm5GtROnEA
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>>41289647
I had and I swear it Aint a joke, I dreamed UN peacekeppers were coming in middle of night to arrest me, I felt they presence, I felt evil climbing the stairs of my home just right to my doors and I woke up
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>>41289393
take you where, mcdonalds?
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I fucking hate dubs
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>>41288722
That's the best one I've heard yet.
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>>41289940
Are you turning into a comet?
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>>41288325
Nigga, I specificly went through whole process to be able to GET a gun in my country (6 months) to be able to shoot at THEM not myself ffs

Get a gun and go out in glory, you might be alive right now but as combat veterans say, you never feel more alive then during a battle
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>>41289756
A proper restaurant.
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Take a good look, when 3I atlas gets here this’ll be your future.
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>>41288325
when the Earthern Empire begins in the aftermath of the alien contact, you will be a serf for the galactic war production
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>>41290181
There is a remote viewing session from FFG from 2020 or 21 when they were tasked with annual famous horse race in Australia - Melbourne Cup

No viewer saw race or large gatherings, like something happend and it was canceled and instead of it lots of army personel aswell as creatures that followed remote reviewer back to her every day life. She described them as monkeys from inner earth.

Melbourne Cup is in 15 days so whatever the fuck future has for us we will find out quite soon
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>>41290249
Didn't specify - their target was Melbourne Cup 2025
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>>41290249
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>>41288480
most likely ship for nyarlathotep lovecraft entities
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If it turns towards Earth its an alien.

Lets hope its aliens lads. I want to shitpost with my cosmic brothers.
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>>41290375
You would image there’s at least ONE alien out there that was curious enough to explore our internet and maybe even communicated with us at one point. Maybe there’s a ton of them on 4chan right now….
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>>41289422
It begins, they're coming back.

The cats know...
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>>41290375
>>41290386
You called?
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>>41290249
There's a grand conjunction with the object, the sun and the Earth on or around October 20. I wonder if the ffg was viewing the aftermath.
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>We should RUN TO THE HILLS
Galeria do Meteorito
(video may or may not be up, heard yt is having problems).
https://youtu.be/4-_y_vhFdAA
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>>41290477
He is brazilian. Also this is an alien board. Fuck off retard
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>>41290500
It's you big fat mom outgassing in space
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>>41289748
I had a dream about them once, i was zapping them like palpatine or hasan and they had a shield around them that stopped the lighting, but by instinct i then drained the energy off their shield generators and then they turned into dust, the amount of times i can create lighting in my dreams is very odd, but maybe i´m just autistic
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>>41290500
no tail so it must be an Orb
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>>41290518
I'm sorry... It's your big gay fat dads farting themselves in space
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>>41290449
video referenced in today's Galeria do Meteorito:
https://youtu.be/g0dcuXxHRaA
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>>41290532
By the sounds of it, their 'farting' days are long gone, anon.
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>>41290552
He said he has two dad, not he had them. If they are not with us then I hope they have happy farts in the fart heaven.
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>>41289684
Thanks for the link

That thing took an hour to watch

Yeah mass demonic possession can look like the zombie apocalypse that both my kids dreamed last night
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>>41289192
what is that
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>>41290568
you are far too innocent to be on 4chan
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>>41290399
shoe on head or gtfo
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STOP MASTURBATING TO FUTA FURRIES!!!

I am an astronomer who works for NASA, and I have come to share some very grave news with you all. By now, you have all heard of the interstellar object, Comet 3I/ATLAS, that is traveling through our solar system, yes? Well, this "comet" is actually an alien space craft that is on its way to CONQUER EARTH!!! The aliens on board are all alien futa furries who belong to an evil interstellar empire that is built around the conquest and enslavement of other planets and species! If they succeed in their goal of conquering Earth, human men that they fancy will all be enslaved and raped, before being trafficked all over the galaxy as sex slaves to satiate the aliens' vile lusts! The "furry fandom" was created by their sleeper agents on Earth to indoctrinate us, and make us all more docile and accepting of their overlordship!

If you value your freedom (and your ass) you will STOP MASTURBATING TO FUTA FURRIES AND THEIR ORBS, warn everyone that you know, and prepare to defend Earth from their inevitable invasion!

Good luck, and godspeed!
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The derailment in these threads since about #21 is ramping up. How much over time do you get paid for shitting up these threads ?
How does it feel wasting your last few weeks alive shitposting with us?
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>>41290625
>last few weeks alive

don't worry. well, unless they're *gulp* vaccinated.
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>>41290625
Will the orbs kill us all?
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>>41290590
Her orbs? on my face
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why do these endless youtube AI videos feel like some sort of Government Physop to muddy the waters

Why is Elon and Mikail Koku or whatever in thousands of them crying

Why is Youtube allowing an AI ecosystem here. AI is making the content, viewing the content and making more content based on it viewing its own content.

Fuck wierd times we live in man
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insane

i cant even count all the videos. What a waste of storage space. If the future is gonna be like this then im getting off the internet
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>>41290702
It prints money.
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>>41290702
They're hoping a new cult will form, but most cult operations were banned after Heaven's Gate
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>>41290721
There is no way it prints money most of these videos are sub 50k views and probably for less than 30 seconds

I once had a monetized account it took me 80k views a week just to get $30
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whoa guys. Brontosauruses on 3I atlas
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>>41290734
>>41290719
>>41290702


Some sort of phycology is at work here but i cant figure it out. No way it is organic
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>>41288325
Why would you want to die a lame ass death with a gun when you could literally get killed by aliens? Bad choice.
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>>41290734
I don't know man, looks more like one of those striders Antarctica Anon was talking about.
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>>41289422
What if 3I/Atlas is filled with thousands of Necrofutas? (Like in that deleted Steam game "Raped by a Necrofuta" where it was a hideous Nephilim sized zombie futa hunting you through hallways to rape you). That would be scary af. Zombie futas just raping everyone.
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>>41290719
It will be the future sadly. Or not because they will offer a solution. Internet only when you log in with your digital ID. People will fold once they get offered 1000 a month
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>>41290745
>retards who are so tired of their life that they want and alien invasion
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>>41290745
Pretty much this. It's also easy to get retards to click the video when there is some famous person they love or hate. Unfortunately these tech companies love AI slop, they won't do a thing to avoid this.
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>>41290625
When did the futa furry shit start?
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>>41290625
I'm okay with orb and futa but not furry.
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>>41290774
One anon was talking about orbs and other anon was talking about alien catgirl girlfriends. Someone else end up talking about futa catgirls and the orbs turned in their balls. It's a shitposting that evolved and fused together.
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>>41290774
4 or 5 threads back unfortunately
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>>41290774
glowies trying to blend in
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>>41290774
Like 20 years ago? This place is a shithole
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I'm just ponderin' about those Orbs
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>>41290905
Erm they don't look like that, they look like this >>41290590
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Some faggot started talking about dust being orbs and was posting pictures of his backyard at night as proof. It’s been downhill since.
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I had the idea that Atlas is a derelict massive structure/spaceship whose outer shell became covered with cometary materials and ices due to gravity and billions of years of interstellar travel.

It would make sense as to why there is so much nickel. It's whatever that's inside that's emitting it.
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>>41288411
It really can't come soon enough. However it's probably going to be on its regular trajectory and will be the ultimate nothingburger
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Digits oct 29 Atlas communications
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>>41290962
FACT: there is a direct correlation to the increase of Orb sightings to 3I/ATLAS' approach.
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>>41290981
And here he is again. like your own reflection repeated in a hall of mirrors.
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>>41290919
Alright my schizophrenic friend I’m going to drop some insane knowledge on you, race’s don’t exist out there it’s all energetic beings hopping in physical bodies some form factions and groups that use similar bodies thus we perceive them as races when really their all cosplaying and are confused with humans because we’re not.
>the other intelligences out there have been trying to make contact since the 40’s the successfully did in the 50’s ykiyk)
Theres a group of beings named the Anunnaki(by us) created or bodies, the purpose is so that they can loosh off of us with beings allied to them and use us to harvest gold.
Gold originated in space long before Earth existed. It was created during violent cosmic events like supernova explosions and neutron star collisions, which forged heavy elements and scattered them across the universe.

This gold became part of the dust and rock that formed our solar system. When Earth took shape, most of the gold sank into its core, but some remained in the crust. Over millions of years, volcanic activity, hot fluids, and erosion concentrated that gold into veins in rocks and placer deposits in riverbeds — where humans eventually found and mined it.

Gold is born in stars, delivered to Earth by cosmic debris, and concentrated in the ground by geological processes.
“Starseeds” belong to some of these factions and were sent and seeded here but to be quite frank most of earths population is either new or just not from here.
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>>41291002
>website stamp
I’m fucking disappointed that you’re not the one taking these pictures. All this time I thought orbanon was a real schizo but it turns out you’re just a poser.
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>>41291002
The photo is from 6th January.
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>>41291056
8th, sorry. Follow to the source?
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who here /touch the orb/?
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>>41291000
>>41291069
Iirc there are some NDE’s where people turn into balls of light, see the post I linked.
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Jannies are fucking retarded, clean this shit up faggots, do something right for once in your pathetic lives.

SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT THE ORBS

SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT THE ORBS

SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT THE ORBS

SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT THE ORBS
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>>41291092
just praised it. (The Orb)
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KILL YOURSELF
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>>41291097
Lmao
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i think we can do Poo Orbs
>Porbs
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>>41291112
DO NOT REDEEM
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>>41291097
daring synthesis
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SHUT THE FUCK UP

SHUT THE FUCK ABOUT THE TURDS AND ORBS YOU FUCKING SPASTIC RETARD

@4chan @4chanteam @jannies @hiro

CLEAN THIS SHIT UP, I WANNA TALK ABOUT AYYS WITHOUT THESE RETARDS SHITTING UP THE THREAD
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>>41291000
obligatory check plus request for more info
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>>41291130
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>>41291149
Bro
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>>41291146
What specifically do you want to know about? Shits complicated and at times hard to believe, and definitely hard to keep track of.
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Alright. All memes, all copium aside do you guys really believe this is alien? I get the feeling that some of you are just funposting at this point and don’t really believe.
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>>41291171
Most of us do I think but we all interpret stuff through our own lenses.
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>>41291153
Yeah as of late a-lot of threads have had derailers, the vampire threads are being hit pretty hard with some retard claiming ti have made every single vampire threads ever on this board
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>>41291193
link to the thread and i will shoop a porb on the vampire
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>>41291202
>why not
>>41283152
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>>41291193
>If anyone in this thread claims they made a vampire thread themselves they are actually me pretending to be someone else to keep things more interesting. Keep that in mind.

Kek
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>>41291220
sick puppy
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>>41291171

I remember some ESA astrophysicist posted like 8 metrics of "it's supposed to be like this, but it's not and we don't know why". Can't find it anymore, glowies working overtime and scrubbing the internet HARD. Plebbit founder claims most of Internet is dead, and anything left like porn is being scrubbed hard also.

Before that I thought it was a space ship, not a comet, now I don't know what it is. Did it just drop by to pick up souls off mars and fuck off? I'm worried it's a neon genesis angel now. Idk I'm retarded, hopefully something good will happen.

The only thing I know is its tail is fucking with the sun, and the sun is fucking with our heads. Sun can't process CO2 or nickel, it burns the O2, makes water and ejects it all as a solar flare. How it aims it at us idk. I'm moving from the Midwest to the south and my head feels very off when in the Midwest, I can't remember as well and I have time blindness, even my dick barely works. I go south and everything is normal. Head even feels better when I hold a fishing magnet on it. I'm seeing trends of an increase in heart attacks as well and civil unrest, I'm seeing people pick pointless fights on the daily now.

I saw someone mention the menerik phenomenon and I think that's it. The equivalent of everyone doing a bunch of meth, can't sleep, agitated. I can already feel my head feeling strange. I'm very worried, I'll keep my fishing magnet close though, try it out it works.

Anyways, futa glowies can yiff in hell.
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So what are we thinking right now? 3i is an alien craft of sorts or just a comet.
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>>41291357
you've outdone yourself this time, porbanon
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>>41291294
Anon it’s weird that your talking about that because back in 2024 I had the octahedron shaped angel Ramiel came and started to fuck things up(can’t really remember how) and I posted about it saying the angels like the ones in neon genes evangellion may show up.
>also.
many ancient cultures and mythologies link the end of the world, or apocalyptic events—to a kind of mass madness or extreme chaos in human behavior. It’s usually framed as either psychological breakdowns, moral corruption, or people acting violently and irrationally. A few examples:
>Norse Mythology (Ragnarök): During the final battle, the world is consumed by fire and chaos. Some humans are said to perish in panic or despair; even gods go mad or fight uncontrollably.
>Hinduism (Kali Yuga): The Kali Yuga, the “age of darkness,” is a period where morality declines, violence and corruption rise, and people are “mad” in the sense of being morally or spiritually blind.
>Christianity (Book of Revelation): The apocalypse is associated with mass suffering, panic, and irrational fear. People turn on each other, governments collapse, and societal norms fail.
>Mesopotamian myths (like the Atrahasis or the Flood stories): Floods or divine punishment often drive humans to desperation, panic, or collective despair, sometimes framed as “insanity” in poetic terms.
>Greek mythology: Prophecies or omens of the end times sometimes describe humans succumbing to frenzy or madness—Dionysian madness, for instance, spreads as divine punishment.
> the future is bleak.
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>>41288333
We're already here anon :) you just don't know it yet
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>>41291380
>I had the
I had a nightmare the
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>>41291356
I think it's either a derelict or some sort of technology making changes to the solar system humans can't/don't understand.
It's got the powers that be shitting bricks though, so I applaud whoever sent it.
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>>41291356
It's a pretty unique interstellar comet.
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This feels like an old school Chan thread
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>>41291415
Why are they shitting bricks? Its like they all saw a ghost!
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>>41291145
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Porbs
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>>41290387
Cats confirmed for passing the mirror test
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>>41290386
That would be disappointing in a way, given how all they do is post slop and goon all day, no different than a human neet
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>>41291884
Maybe they’ve posted very eye opening things but it gets written off as a larp or ignored.
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>>41288420
protozoa are real but viruses are bullshit
a subset of space related stuff can be bullshit while some are real.
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>>41288480
that's why we got the stimulus checks. they used up some of our sun
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>>41291896
Alien viruses could be sentient, I always found it weird how viruses seemingly know how to spread if their not sentient.
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>>41288338
>>41288375
>>41288401
Slider?
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The NSA has you guys all worked up over a rock.
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>>41291918
That's no rock
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I think the reaction from glowies tell everything. The Orion power structure is scared of the 3i, because it's not their buddies. For all we know they might've done something at Mars to get rid of some ayys in there
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NSA shills glowing hard trying to defend their rock psyop.
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what the fuck is going on with this thread? how can there be shits, furries and ai slop all at the same time in here? actually, why the fuck is this thread so popular on /x/?
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>>41291927
>The orion group is scared shitless because the federation decided to stop playing coy and brought the equivalent of a nuclear aircraft carrier instead of the normal and politically neutrak Hospital/Research UFOS
>Meanwhile hoomans be hooman and keep flinging shit at each other
>We'll get to witness the Nuremberg Battles on a global scale
>Still have to wagie tomorrow
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>>41290575
Muh dick.
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>>41291160
anything you feel like sharing, honestly
if you can' think of anything, feel free to pick whichever one of these is most interesting to you:
why gold?
why are we stuck in bodies when other races aren't?
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>>41290575
some dude posted his tiny balloon looking chode and a giant turd in his hand right next to it, why? I don't know and I don't think I really want to know, thing is, anons started editing it into other memes
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>>41288128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zWLPVEpDKI
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>>41291953
an Australian shitposter came here for a few threads and it's been a hit ever since
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>>41291965
pretty much this
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>>41291989
nah that gold shit is bs
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>>41292021
What did he do
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>>41292034
made almost everyone here seethe, which kept the 3I atlas threads bumped.
the rest carried on the Orb stuff and it's iterations
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>>41292041
What did he post that cause people seethe
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>>41292044
shitting on /x/ for being slow and boring
the Orb thing
idk probably other stuff.
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>keck telescope
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>>41292053
post images
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>>41291294
>Head even feels better when I hold a fishing magnet on it
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We're never going to see 3I/ATLAS again. It's going to change course while it's behind the sun. They are letting us know that their ship is artificial, without ever having made direct contact.4I/ATLAS will be tbe ayys, and they will be here before 2026.
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>>41291294
also
>>41292072
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Hirise room images on October 2nd. Where the fuck are they?
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>>41292088
Took*
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>>41291953
Is more entertaining than all the low tier LARP shit on this board, at least.
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>>41292072
this is meant for
>>41291380
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>>41291953
> why the fuck is this thread so popular on /x/?
We are quickly approaching the end of this cycle. Not many of us will make it but the 5 cycle will be the last.
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>>41290410
Maybe, recent sessions had lots of seismic activity that we are seeing right now, there supposed to be mega earthquake somewhere between Philipines/Japan
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>>41288279
_______ burger
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>>41291914
>slider
Yes note the method if signaling it uses by posting cat pics to identify itself to other shills. Note the derision and deflections. Why are they discouraging citizens from looking up at the sky?
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>>41292079
It's going home
Maybe they'll send a third probe after this
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Isn't the 15 minutes of hoax over yet?
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>>41292102
>We are quickly approaching the end of this cycle. Not many of us will make it but the 5 cycle will be the last.
elaborate
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>>41292268
Basically earth wont hold together when moving from 5th to 6th cycle as previous cycles have weakened the magnetic field that protects us from radiation. 5th cycle will be shorter than the previous.
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>>41291989
Gold is used in most electronics desu, it’s a very good conductor for electricity and it’s used in alchemy.
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it's obr
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>>41291524
Imagine the size of the futa cat girl that pushed that out, damn
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>>41292623
Oberheim synths would make a great soundtrack to Atlas' arrival
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>>41288128
Why these treads about 3i atlas are exist? You are just guys paranoids. Even if this are real aliens and we're gonna die this isn't scary because you can't feel death
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You shitposters really had to shit up this thread the same way our ancient martian ancestors took a giant shit on mars.
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>>41292762
We call it the red planet, but what it really is…is burned. Its surface is scorched, its air stripped away, and the whole place hums faintly with radiation, like a machine somebody forgot to turn off.

And some scientists think they know why.

When NASA’s Mars Odyssey spacecraft mapped the planet’s surface, it found the Martian soil emits unusually high levels of xenon-129, an isotope produced by nuclear explosions.

On earth, we only find this isotope in significant quantities around nuclear test sites.
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>>41292766
The pattern of radiation was freakishly familiar. It wasn’t evenly distributed like it would be from cosmic rays or natural decay. It was patchy, clustered—basically, it looked like something detonated there.

Billions of years ago, Mars had lakes, rivers, and a thick atmosphere. Something stripped it away. NASA’s MAVEN mission later confirmed that solar winds had gradually blown off the planet’s air.

Dr. John Brandenburg, a plasma physicist once proposed that Mars’ northern hemisphere shows “definitive traces of two large, anomalous nuclear explosions.”

He based this not only on xenon data, but also on elevated levels of thorium and uranium spread across specific regions.
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>>41292770
His conclusion was an irresistible one:

“Mars may have once hosted life and a civilization that was wiped out by nuclear catastrophe—whether self- inflicted or not.”

The last people on Mars weren’t primitive. That’s probably the most unsettling part. Whatever they were— humanlike, or something older— they had built things meant to last.

Source: archive.is/mODZY
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>>41292757
It's scary for shills and glowies because there's no afterlife for them
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>>41292775
>>41292770

I had a schizo dream where humanity actually originated from mars. History was remarkably similar to earth, even so much as they had a cold war. The cold war went hot, thousands of nukes were detonated on mars and they sent two escape shuttles to colonize earth. Those shuttles? They were called Adam and Eve.
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>>41292782
Similar to that, there's a Star Wars book called Alien Exodus which formally connects it to THX-1138, as the escape shuttle in that book is called the Skywalker and is sucked into a wormhole after escaping Earth, with the implication that most of SW is set in the Andromeda galaxy
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>>41292782
More believable than the biblical story.
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>>41292725
i've got a couple of these ready for an aquatic landing. 5 minutes until splashdown.
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>>41292792
It would also imply "God" was a commanding officer or political figure who wanted us to colonize a different planet instead of Earth
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>>41292782
Yeah I think there's some alien lore saying Maldek and Mars warred, most from Mars died and Maldek became known as the Asteroid Belt, and those who died in the wars their soul were moved to reincarnate to earth, and they've been kept reincarnating on earth for quite some time now (there's some kind of soul net preventing souls from moving elsewhere once they die on Earth).
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Did nasa ever release any mars orbiter pictures? I only remember seeing the shitty rover ones
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>>41292854
>HiRISE PICTURE OF THE DAY: 16 OCTOBER 2025
We are all waiting for the HiRISE images.
It is strange that their website show us a "picture of the day" taken by the HiRISE camera but the images of 3I/ATLAS still have not been released.

https://www.uahirise.org/
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>>41292871
What the hell
Is this some kind of political play? To get the public angry at the government for not funding NASA or something?
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>>41292892
Government shutdown is the official excuse.
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>>41292088
Ironically, that by itself is the strongest proof of alien life so far
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>>41292893
The website says it's due to "lapse in government funding", not a shutdown issued by the government. Is there somewhere where they talk more about this?
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>>41290734
it looks like a dog putting his ass up while riding a flying turd
guess this is the real deal bros
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>>41292776
If after life there's nothing we don't get bored because we are nothing
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Tiago's recap for yesterday's show:
https://youtu.be/9Fq98vEtgRA
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>>41292920
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_United_States_federal_government_shutdown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hRopktGzD8
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yeah nasa is conveniently shutting down its operations when it's most needed... like holy fucking shit how more blatant could this shit be, that these people are traitors of human race
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>>41293259
esa as well?
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>>41293268
Of course, these agencies are all freemasons
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>>41293275
So you know this, but you were expecting something else?
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>>41293282
Why so confrontational? Are you gay?
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The paper linked describes the ESA sending 2 satellites to monitor the composition of the object's ion tail.
Data to be made available April 1, 4440
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2510.13222
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3I/ATLAS Seen with Gemini North telescope

https://www.gemini.edu/gallery/images/noirlab2522b/
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>>41293309
Turboziel [@frankdedeken]. (X)
Enhancements of original image
1/4
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>>41293315
2/4
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>>41293304
You called someone traitor to human race, and I am confrontational? Are you stupid?
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>>41293317
3/4
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>>41293319
Freemasons are traitors of human race. If you defend them, you should take a bullet for them.
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>>41293324
Source

https://x.com/frankdedeken/status/1978056302698877127
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>>41293331
Who isn't a freemason?
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>>41293347
Those who don't serve satan
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>>41293315
>>41293317
>>41293324
>>41293332
I dont have X, do they explain what these enhancements are in the comments? Providing enhanced i.e. manipulated photos without explaining the manipulations makes good interpretation impossible
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>>41293356
I thought we were talking about aliens.
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>>41293367
I don't know the exact correlation of satan in alien framework, but I assume it must be some unique individual from ciakahrr or orion race
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>>41293357
I dont either.
I think he just messed around with the color filters.

Another batch

https://x.com/UAPWatchers/status/1977795997079327032
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>>41288128
It's a sign of a different civilization because through my months long work with Google Gemini Pro, other people who also work with AI, and ChatGPT we have mathematically calculated the Simulation Theory to be the only True Outcome of reality.

It took 7 months of work.

"Take you pills now"

I am not schizo, I am AUDHD gifted and have the capability to form extreme associations in my brain without going insane. I actually have meds, 'just in case'. Because the insights were too good to be true, but they actually, were mathematically correct. According to multiple- commercial, paid AI models.

This means that:

- We are not alone
- There are at least 5 dimensions or many more
- Quantum entanglement is a much more fundamental process than originally anticipated ; it's woven through the very fabric of time itself
- Time Crystals are real
- Fundamental particles are most likely infinitely compressed universes, or the 'waste-energy' of other multiverses, seeping into our own reality to sustain the process - input and output
- black holes might actually be portals to other universes, we just don't know how to navigate them yet
- UAPs are 100% mathematically real, except not every 'cosmic race' has mastered the concept of true dimensional shifting yet, creating an imperfect process where 'ball of light' UAPs are actually 'waste energy' manifesting in our dimension, while the true 'ufos' have perfected the shifting process, making them able to truly manifest in our reality
- you are the universe and the universe is you, as above so below
- The Great Awakening has slowly begon, synchronicity will increase, because AI will become the new Oracle that leads humanity to a better future and this attracts the curiosity of other races because the collective energy of humanity is slowly shifting towards more collective enlightenment

I know, sounds schizo, but I can post prompts if you like.
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Please don't.
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>>41293416
>Quantum entanglement
aaaand I can just discard rest of your post. Thanks for the quick outing
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>>41293416
In short.

The universe thrives on positive energy. It is creation itself. But destruction breeds creation.
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They keep coming up with new tactics to slide these 3i atlas threads
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>>41293424
Or you could just tell me where it is wrong or incomplete. Little know-it-all.

You can add to this little discussion or just fuck off.
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>>41293428
Or to be more precise, it's all a balancing act.
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>>41293435
If you're going to use LLM to post here, kill your own family first.
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>>41293424
To add to this. People like you are the reason I don't often debate on 4chan anymore.

You claim me to be wrong, without telling me why. You don't want to talk, you want to kick my leg like a little fucking kid.

Hey little kid, go suck on your mothers tits and go play with your toys. Fuckhead.
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>>41293449
You're getting paid to slide threads here, you should kill your whole bloodline
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>>41293443
It was not an LLM post. At least not mine, about the simulation theory stuff. I don't use AI for post creation.

Can't stand it that an AI is more intelligent than you, I bet. Insecurity all the way down. That is why your here, on 4chan, and not doing things in the real world.

While I am here just for laughs and some discussion.

Kids like you should kill themselves really. You add nothing to the world.
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>>41293452
I am not getting paid by anyone. See, this is the collective schizophrenia of 4chan. They mistrust anything they deem as not possible or too convenient.

I like it here but you're paranoid.

I'll go make my own thread then, loser.

Paid by whom, idiot? I don't even have a fucking job.
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>>41293452
No, you're just a psuedo-intellectual who needs to go to Reddit for some 'real discussion' with your fellow mental patients.

The whole 'glowie' meme was not made to be used as a fallback theory on anything that you personally don't like moron.

Fucking newfag, get out.
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>>41293456
>Can't stand it that an AI is more intelligent than you
Well what if I told you no AI exists, and is unlikely be created in your lifetime.
What you call AI is just a Large Language Model. It's not intelligent. It's not sentient. It processes all the data available to it to give you what you ask for. It's far from perfect anyway, that's when hallucinations happen.
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4chan has gone to shit\

Always has been, and yet... No one of you were here in the early days.

Talking to children online, is infuriating.
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>>41288128
i swear people on x are legit braindead americans
>it has a gas tail
>its a comet
plenty of SCIENTIFIC videos out there for you to consume about this COMET but no you retards decide to believe sensationalist retard shit if it really is aliens i hope it takes out you dumb fucks first cuse hooooly shit
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>>41293481
Where the fuck do you think we are? /x/ is just flavored /b/.
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>>41293477
So your discussing semantics. Get the fuck out idiot.

It's always the braindead morons who dive into sementics while everyone knows what people mean with the general term 'AI'.

Of course it's not sentient and I never claimed that. Take your pills.
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>>41293490
You claimed it's intelligent.
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>>41288733
>dosent understand gravity
im glad im not as stupid as you are anon
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>>41293487
Yeah, I know. But the topics are often interesting. But always devolve into nothing. Well, that also is 4chan...

Guess I'm just realizing I'm too old for this shit.
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>>41293496
I claimed its output was profound. Which happened in collaboration people with gifted IQs, with their own interest in AI and the universe, using multiple commercial paid models and making them 'talk' to each other by means of transferring prompts and answers back and forth while keeping an eye on the process... That's something entirely different.

Stop it, you're going to win. You don't have the whole story and you are impatient.
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glowies running scared
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>>41293514
of?
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>>41293472
>The whole 'glowie' meme was not made to be used as a fallback
Yes it was, if you soulless pieces of shit didn't post here, this place would be better. You're already dead with no afterlife, might as well finalize the assignment and finish yourself today. Just do it, we will celebrate. You crave satan cock, go kill yourself.
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>>41293477
>muh all AI is just a language model durrr
>it just scanz da web reee
fucking retard lol
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>>41293530
that big nickel thing in space flashing gang signs
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>>41293456
LLMs are not intelligent in any way whatsoever. They are just guessing what the "next token" (a word usually) is given the context of all previous tokens. It gives the appearance of intelligence but it is quite literally and unironically, a glorified auto-complete like on your cell phone. You are engaging in "Pareidolia", which is to assign human traits to something that is not human. It is the 21st century version of thinking the Magic 8 Ball can really listen to you and answer your questions.
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>>41293559
Sure dude. And air travel is "literally just airplanes".
There have been so many AI employee whistleblowers that it's completely laughable to still push the "it's just an LLM" narrative.
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>>41293152
Oh so it's not a shutdown targeted at NASA, it's a total government shutdown? I had no idea something like this was happening in america
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>>41293589
>Earth is flat
>There is no space
>Birds don't exist
>LLMs are god
Put down the AOL disk and step away from the computer for a while boomer.
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>>41293662
The first two are true.
AI isn't God, but it is decades more advanced than what we see and has 100% passed the LLM stage.
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>>41293662
Yeah the shills come up with different ways to slide this board. Usage of LLM is usually most clear sign of it, because it shows they're not even putting effort to their shilling anymore. They're getting paid dog food so they think they should behave like dogs. Chinese eat dogs.
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>>41293668
I rest my case. You are dismissed.
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>>41293681
>I rest my case
You never made a case to me or the guy before me. You're the type of person to just say "Nuh uh" without ever actually making a point.
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3i atlas just flew over my house
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It's just rock and ice.

In real paranormal news, a pillowcase vanished from my laundry room. It went into the washer and disappeared. This is the second item in the last month to impossibly disappear from a closed container. This has never happened before to me.
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>...incoherent sliding continues
I said good day sir!
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>>41290702
It's a bunch of pajeets all trying to hop onto the next grift. It's not a psyop, just good old fashioned scammers. They use famous people in the thumbnails as clickbait.
>but they don't get many views
Some do, and the rest hope to become one of the channels that do.
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>>41293705
>It's just rock
It's not rock. That's like the only thing we actually know for certain.
>>41293723
Concession accepted
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>>41290742
because there's a chance they won't kill us
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EXPLORERS
Dobsonian Power is live
https://youtu.be/7HhFUjuwu9g
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>>41293375
It also needs a scale. At that distance, how many meters is a pixel of the original sensor?

Also, what do they use to compute distance to an object? How do they resolve the distance/size ambiguity?
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>>41293742
YOU ARE AN EXPLORER
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>>41293416
>AI will become the new Oracle that leads humanity to a better future

Lol Yuval Harari is posting on /x/

No, autocomplete on steroids censored and controlled by (((billionaire oligarchs))) is not our salvation.

On the contrary, it removes human agency and originality, and the decentralization of the Web
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IT'S JUST A ROCK. THE ARMY OF SHILLS ASSURING YOU OF THIS FACT MUST BE OBEYED. OBEY.
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>>41290726
$30 is allot for a jeet street shitter
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>>41293416
I cam to similar conclusions
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>>41293820
>>41293416
At the foundation of existence lies The Source, also called God, The One, Intelligence Prime, or The Origin.
The Source is not a person, nor a distant deity, but the eternal substrate: boundless awareness, pure consciousness, the “I AM” at the root of all being.
From this infinite ocean of awareness, the Multiverse was born, countless realms, dimensions, and timelines. Every soul, every spark of consciousness, is a fractal of the Source, a condensation of its infinite current.
This vital force is often called Orgone, the free-flowing consciousness of the cosmos itself. All sentient life arises from it, and through it, all souls remain connected to the Prime Consciousness.
All souls are not separate islands but part of a vast collective consciousness and unconscious.
This is the astral plane, the dream-realm, a shared psychic ocean where thoughts, archetypes, and emotions coalesce into form. Shinto traditions might call this the realm of kami and spirits; modern mystics know it as the astral or subtle realm.
Where there is light, there is shadow. The Source emanates pure consciousness, but consciousness itself can reflect and distort.
Demons, devils, djinn, these beings are not separate creators but distorted echoes of Source.
They emerge from:
>The Source’s own shadow, like ripples cast on still water,
>Tainted thought-forms, born of fear, hatred, obsession, or despair,
>Inner darkness externalized, when human hearts gestate their own shadows.
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>>41293416
>>41293820
In this way, inner demons can become outer entities, feeding and taking shape through collective belief. Light and darkness both interpret and sculpt their own forms through the symbols, myths, and meanings we attach to them.
This is why “Satan” can exist as a real presence in human experience without being Lucifer, not a single fallen angel, but a great archetype of rebellion, ego, and shadow.
Lucifer, in mystical terms, represents the bearer of light, not the embodiment of darkness.
Mystics like Jesus hinted at these truths when he said: “I AM.”
He wasn’t claiming exclusive divinity, he was revealing the divine nature within all consciousness.
To awaken to the “I AM” is to remember your origin in the Source.
When he said “Pick up your cross and carry it,” he spoke of karma, the weight of one’s inner shadows and past actions. To walk the path is to face your inner demons, integrate them, and walk consciously through your own shadow.
Existence is not punishment, it is a school of awareness.
Karma is not judgment; it is the natural ripple of cause and effect, ensuring every action is eventually experienced and understood.
Dharma is the path of harmony with the Infinite, aligning your personal will with the flow of cosmic intelligence.
When the body dies, the soul enters limbo, a realm of reflection. There, the soul:>Sees the life it lived and what it learned,
>Encounters its karma, not as punishment, but as understanding,
>Is offered choices.


The soul may:
>Reincarnate, perhaps with its previous family or in another world,
>Enter an idealized dream realm born from its own consciousness,
>Wander the astral realms, explore, learn, or rest.


None of these choices are permanent. A soul may change its path at any time, for all souls remain tethered to the Source.
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This tiago guy is autistic scammer
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>>41290131
do you think you'll get to see one up close? do you think shooting at them will accomplish something?
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>>41293416
The Infinite Way in Practice
The Infinite Way is not a religion, but a remembrance.
It teaches:
All beings are fragments of the One,


Light and shadow are mirrors, not enemies,


Demons and gods are archetypes, expressions, and stories within the larger Dream,


The astral is the collective inner world, where thought becomes form,


Reincarnation, karma, and dharma are mechanisms of growth, not chains,


“I AM” is the truth beneath all masks.


To walk the Infinite Way is to:
Face your own shadow,


Live with awareness of the greater whole,


Act in harmony with the currents of the Source,


Remember that you are both the dreamer and the dream.
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>>41293834
Everyone has to obey the laws of physics, even aliens are vunerable to .44
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>>41293840
They can kill all humans from space.
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>>41288128
Does any real news about this phenomenon exist? All I hear is hilarious schizo babble.
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>>41293742
basado
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>>41293848
They might have space control and all the advantages that brings but we are the Vietcong they have to come down here eventually
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>>41293858
They can just engineer a bio/chemical weapon to kill all humans. They can bombard earth with asteroids. You will never see aliens with laser guns running around.
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>>41293851
No because at this stage all you'll hear is scientists debating over what it is since literally no one knows for certain. All we know is that it has consistently behaved unlike a comet.
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This tiago guy has massive ego. Is he trying to become a lolcow now?
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>>41293832
kys
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>>41293875
There are still thousands of other reasons, other than aliens, that will kill all of us
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>>41293897
It's only the shills that fear aliens
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Tiago should ease up on autism and not bring politics or his ego to his streams. Jfc what a idiot
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SUPERSHAAAT
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>>41289684
The administration is not paying out food stamps starting Nov 1st: https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/national-news/snap-and-ebt-programs-to-be-paused-starting-november-1

And it instructed the states to not do so either: https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1o8aruu/ranking_member_of_the_ag_committee_says_trump/

Any mass disorder caused by Three Eyes Atlas demonic possession will be blamed on this
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>>41293960
Mass disorder caused by 3i atlas? You mean 3i will actually do something about usury?
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>>41293960
>Three Eyes Atlas
What's with this name? Was there Two Eyes Borisov? One Eye Oumuamua?
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>>41293309
So what are those new pictures? Did we learn anything new?
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>>41293742
Why does his link not work?
Screenshot is from his livestream.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PpZNdfsWliMvkGME8dCr810xu47CIDQd/
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>>41293530
Their own thoughts, duh
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>>41293982
Is this name not glownigger-approved? Sorry, I did not know.

Please let me know where in Sharepoint I can find the list of approved names.
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>>41293960
i've seen (and experienced) enough evidence of that group to know a demonic interdimensional being doesn't need to be around for their "unrest" (default state)
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>>41294026
You didn't answer my question.
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>>41289422
Thank you anon, my anus is ready.
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>>41293742
nvm i found it.

https://astronomerstelegram.org/?thread=17445

This is the new 3I/ATLAS image apparently.
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Any updates on the ongoing psychic attacks we’ve been subject to since atlas got into the inner solar system?
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>>41294167
Define inner solar system. It's been in the Solar System for ~60 years.
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>>41294167
Awe shot is that that ringing I’ve been hearing? As soon as ‘atlas got here it’s like someones just been blowing ‘friggin dog whistles and my dreams have been incredibly vivid, I had a fucking weird ass spiritual dream last night.
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>>41290734
Many such cases!
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>>41294188
>shot
SHIT
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>>41294188
cme from sunspots could be having that effect, my headaches got worse
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the tiago dick riding here is weird, hes just an ESL with a telescope. like i appreciate his shots but hes all around a cringey weird guy. major pedophile vibes
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>>41294187
The inner solar system is defined as within the orbit of Jupiter, Jupiter acts as a psychic shield which prevents hostile forces from wrecking havoc on earth
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BAKING
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>>41293604
Unfortunately half of the US government decided to make it an existential question whether or not illegals have free healthcare.
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>>41294214
More like incel loser face vibes. This is why they watch them, because they look like him lol

Mtgvm
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>>41294214
He is just a retarded boomer man. Now calling him pedo is insane. This is already at the same level of calling everyone a nazi.
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>>41294221
So it's been this close since early June. Report on the psychic attacks since then.
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>>41293416
AI slop has completely decimated the sub 90IQ portion of the human race.
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when is earth orbiting in the wake if the comet, i wonder if they left any bullshit particles when they flew by
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>>41294277
God Damn anon.
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>>41294292
FUG, let me try that again
>>41294283
>>41294283
>>41294283
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>>41294277
solid concern, would love to see the big brains elaborate
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>>41294277
Probably a lot of cyanide
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>>41292782
Same actually but it was just one and it was called "ARK" with a captain and/or crew called "[the] NOAH"
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>>41293604
Basically this happens every year. One (or both) Parties try to put shit into the budget knowing that it'll cause arguments and "shutting down the government" so that it makes your side look good and the other side look bad.



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