Do demonic people have an instinctive hatred towards God and religion? I'm not a bible thumper or anything but I've noticed how some people seem to be angered just by the fact that others believe in that stuff. It's like the scene in The Omen where the kid goes apeshit upon seeing a church. Some people are actually like that and it honestly makes me wonder if they were either touched by the vicar as a kid or theres something inside them that just naturally hates that shit.
>>41310288disregard fiction in media, those you see in real life angry at the religious, are they presently trying and failing to convert said religious folk to their point of view?
>>41310288Yeah. Have you ever seen those videos of street preachers at like leftist protests and gay marches and shit? People are stealing things from them, shrieking in their faces, mocking them loudly, implying that they're gay or pedophiles or something, just losing their fucking minds. They are rotten to the core. I personally don't understand why preachers bother going to places like that, besides I guess to demonstrate the depths of depravity these people have fallen into. It's not like they'll make a convert out of a gay Communist.
>>41310299Usually they don't bother they just complain about politics and throw things at the religious people
>>41310311that sounds like they bothered once awhile ago and failed and are still bitter about it
>>41310314Nobody has ever really converted anyone else, I don't think. Very few people are actually willing to be taught anything or see something from a different point of view. People don't generally hold the beliefs they do out of some dogged adherence to standards of logic and objectivity.
>>41310336im not speaking to the success of their attempts but the bitterness they carry with them in failing to "enlighten" those they feel misguided - the true power of belief is that a belief need not be true to guide the choices of a believer.
>>41310347Sure, I understand. I'm sure there are plenty of atheists who pull their hair out at the absurdity of the idea of God and generic do not understand how someone could believe in him. It must be as frustrating to them as pointing out the sky is blue and someone insisting it isn't.
>>41310380yee, if we agree on this as a source for the anger ops possessed posses then whats possessing them is pride in their knowings not some kinda entity from elsewhere
>>41310530It is pride, I agree. Pride is a very difficult problem to have because you don't normally see it in yourself and are extremely resistant to it being solved. The way you solve it is also generally pretty awful, which is humiliation and failure. So nobody wants to have it and the people who have it don't want to fix it. If you try to fix it, the person suffering from it will become angry. It's difficult to tell someone that they just aren't as good or smart as they think because literally everyone everywhere wants to be good, smart, and correct. It's just an unfortunate reality of being a human. Some of us are wrong. Even though we're absolutely sure we're correct, we aren't.
>>41310565its the worst of the deadly sins for sure ;(
Just doesn't seam to fit the...Format for sum...Sum need light in the darkness...Others don't need or want illumination...Take just wot u need...To get the job at hand done...Don't stress the smol tings...You don't need us...Like we don't need you...But we both have a little sum ting...We stole from each other...The converted always have...An shadow overwrite...They can never shake...It's an earth thing...Mother's milk...
>>41310653Dumb faggot
>>41310288There are three things going on which causes such a psychotic reaction. Distrust of others, distrust of the church and trying to hold onto the ego.The first thing is distrust of others. If they see somebody trying to do something good for them they automatically think they are trying to get one over on them like its a third world country. I'm not saying this is a bad worldview to have but when its dialed up to 11 where they don't even trust family or think the one guy saying "hello" to them is doing a racist microaggression then you have an issue. And in the event they do accept help they are now in a mental "debt" which they don't want to be in.The second is hatred of institutions. All their life though media and word of mouth they were told the church and other institutions are evil and want to control you, ironically enough being controlled themselves. This feeds into their distrust of everything in general unless its from the ingroup, which they trust 100% like a cult. Which leads us into...The ego. They have made this their entire personality and reason to live. If you criticize their movement you are actually criticizing them as a person. With that affecting them as a person you are literally peeling back their minds effectively spiritually killing their sense of self with doubt. When you attack somebodies ego you may as well be attacking them directly because you are now seen as a threat that want's to hurt them physically even if you just want to talk because they don't trust you that you just want to talk things out. They only trust their ingroup because it feeds their ego, their sense of self and what they are doing is good. Deep down they just cause themselves even more pain by feeding into sins with more sin which drives them psychotic. People say you need compassion but sometimes there is no saving people and the only language they speak is sin, which you need to inflict upon them to save others.
Very nice picture.
>>41310288Demonic possession was a cover story for silencing women and children that were raped by clergy
>>41310288Hatred is a strong word.We all have things which resonate with us. Mine is of the domain of the Chthonic, of Night, of Death and Medicine.I feel the same way in church as I would in an industrial setting. Distant, drained, irritated, agitated.Its not some place that fits, or meshes like a resounding pulse; it is dissonant. So I do my best to reduce dissonance and improve resonance."Hate" is not in my pursuits.Do you "hate" the flies that sneak into your home and buzz around? No, its just an annoyance. A constant annoyance that just reminds you "this isnt where you are supposed to be."
>>41310303And that obviously has nothing to do with the street preacher trying to convert through what is essentially insulting them? Or, just by being a constant and unwanted presence of reminders of how those folk were wronged by members of the religion?
>>41311248This resonates as truth.
>>41311243Surprised it took this long to have our first example of a hatred possessed monster to show up.>>41311248You just proclaimed different forms of wrath in your post however. Annoyance is a type of self loathing. Sin comes in many different forms and it feeds off one another.>>41311257Maybe back in the 80's but that is far from the case now. And that is the issue, isn't it? Using things from the past to justify shitty behavior now, unable to let go of your own ego.
>>41311257Every effective insult has an ounce of truth to give it weight, and generally street preachers are not actually trying to insult them to begin with.
>>41310288>Do demonic people have an instinctive hatred towards God and religion?hmmm maybe some people just dont like the way religious efforts have been used to control and silence and justify harm?>>41311243This too, like we dont need to demonize every single religion and fall to black and white thinking but hypocrisy and dishonest policies or patterns of thought that stifle individual growth are a
>>41311355>We are not being controlled, you are!As long as you have hate in your heart you are being controlled.
>>41310288kind of, people who hate on the idea of anything Paranormal, cant phantom the idea of something which is not tangible. Or they are bound by this world and its pleasures. And the idea of an afterlife and being judged for their sinful/slothful and indulgent life's scares them. but demonic? no. just boarded and have nothing else to do
>>41311527Would you at least agree that being overwhelmed by an emotion to the point of harming themselves and those around them is like demonic possession? That perhaps stories of gods visiting earth were inspired from such occasions that have happened?
>>41310288>Do demonic people have an instinctive hatred towards God and religion?The devil and its servants are preachers, too
>>41310303the irony is they're both slaves to the same jewish zeitgeist. one side behaves the other doesnt but both give their wills and souls to jewish "deities"
>>41311810you are just a conservative, do you think these guys are demonic too?
>>41311851Dont use your stupid american terms on me. The whole world hates you. But in terms you'd understand, do you look like picrel? Cause the american mind grid only allows for two options within its spectrum.
>>41310288Religion is demonic as fuck, you projecting religious assholes need to stfu.
what is the symbol on the right holding the key supposed to be OP?
>>41311899atheism which is funny because most jews are atheists, why didnt the image creator put a yin yang symbol or om symbol too?
>>41311810whats wrong with saying god is within?
>>41311851>but what about...You are not interested in being enlightened. You just want to fulfill your own ego and be "right" and "correct". You may think that those people are hatful, but there is no larger hate then self loathing, especially self loathing with ones own body as only dramatic and traumatic change and mutilation can be done to try and fill in that empty self hating hole in your heart. Only to spread that spite to justify a horrible decision to try and normalize it.
>>41310288They're trying to pass off their violent God was The One True Creator. If The One True Creator wasn't so loving, then it would be an affront to him. It's okay though, because I'm mad for him. Fuck them niggas.
>>41311962trans people have always existed and all studies say that the only way to stop suicide is to transition and im not even trans, would you ever be friends with a trans person and talk deeply about it?
As someone who has tried to worship satan and align with the lofty powers of darkness for many years, one day on a walk I met a woman and her daughter who were recruiting for some baptist church and they asked me if I was a christian and if I wanted to pray with them. I sat on a bench in this park, while this girl put her hand on my shoulder and said a bunch of prayers and I shit you not I felt like some sort of mystical healing force was flowing through my "spirit body" or "soul". Like my demons that had been festering for years were beginning to leave my body. It could have just been the oxytocin from being touched by another human after years of isolation though.
>>41311984"trans" people do not exist. this is a bogus label for victims of child rape. they want to suicide because of the trauma.
>>41311190Good post. When you say "sometimes there is no saving people and the only language they speak is sin, which you need to inflict upon them to save others" what do you mean? Do you mean you need to essentially bury the wicked with more vices to they cannot infect the rest of humanity?
>>41312006thats mean and clearly untrue if you talk to alot of trans people, have you ever talked to one?
>>41311984You have just completely proved my point that this is just about fulfilling ego with you now. You speak of understanding yet fail to understand the words I typed out. You are full of hate and yet project that hate onto others, because being "hatefully" is evil, and being evil conflicts with who you perceive yourself as. So if other people are hatful, you think its ok to give that hate back to protect yourself.Listen to me. You are being played by forces greater then you could ever imagine.
>>41312032you cant fool me, ishtar cultist. i know your child raping feminization rituals.
>>41310288Some satanists/saturnians work to tear down spirituality/chuch/religion from the outside, some work within the churches to mislead the well intentioned but ignorant fools that have blind faith.>"we troll Christians" - direct quote from a satanist relativeTheir belief and justification range from idiot punks abused as children and fried their brains on drugs, to ancient family lines that maintain practices that have existed for thousands of years. Any claim of logic on their part is inverted logos, as they are incapable of true creation, and at best only capable of synthesis of existing forms.
>>41312072What is true creation and how does one engage it ?
>>41312021Something like that. Compassion, charity and wisdom is what burns away sin in somebody. However there is only so much you can burn away, especially at once in a single time. If you do charity to a selfish person that will end up harming both of you. If you show compassion to somebody actively trying to kill you that will harm you and innocents around you. Sometimes to reach people for them to understand you, you have to be rude to them, or make them feel bad or even indulge in their pride a little. You have to slowly take away layer after layer, you just can't remove the hard shell all at once. Once you realize that people who have certain affinities towards certain sins like to group up and be around others who also have those sins you realize its like a language they speak. They all understand each other to a certain extent. Sometimes to reach people you also have to speak that sin which sounds counter intuitive. You can't save everybody because that takes time, but perhaps you can save a few people. Then those people can save others.
>>41312084I'm not the anon you are replying to, but I think you're right.I've been through this experience of people speaking my language of sin to kinda soften me and it worked
>>41312084how do you decide which people You will save?>it's difficult to tell someone that they just aren't as good or smart as they think because literally everyone everywhere wants to be good, smart, and correct. It's just an unfortunate reality of being a human. Even though we're absolutely sure we're correct, we aren't.
>>41312141>how do you decide which people You will save?I don't. It's not my responsibility to save anybody. If I save somebody I let it happen naturally like through regular conversation or art. Getting others to think for themselves without posing a question is often a good way. There is a reason why media now a days is so dull and samey, they don't want people to think and ruminate about the subject matter they watched unless its about the very specific message the authors had in mind.
>>41310288I will offer a secular explanation: Some people are naturally zealous believers by nature, and wish to impose (as is common) their 'correct' understanding of the world upon everyone else, by force if necessary. Their specific beliefs are very variable, they can be Christian, Muslim, Atheist, Liberal, etc. But the same personality traits manifest through them. If they are sufficiently magnified, they may be unable to even tolerate someone not accepting 'the truth' being in a room with them. Converts Zeal is also a part of this, they were blind, but now they see the truth! And they will abide by that truth and tirelessly fight for it! Just that in this case the conversion was out of religion, rather than into one. Extremely principled people that think religion is inherently evil also qualify.The second important type of extreme religion hater is what I would call a The Victim. You allude to them with your comment about Vicarial molestation, though it usually is not that bad. Usually it is people who were hurt by abusive religious parents, exploited by churches, members of cults, disowned for being Gay, ostracized, etc. They draw from their experience that organized religion and their concepts of God are harmful and evil; they wish to eradicate them.Btw, it's nether here nor there but the explanations from Christians ITT strike me as self masturbatory reaffirmations of belief rather than an actual attempt at understanding the phenomenon. Plus they use that sanctimonious catholic U.S think-tank tone and that grates me.P.S: I hate 'New Atheism' so much. It duped like three generations of religious people into thinking 'Atheism' is a belief system like Christianity is.
>>41312204You got a real solid understanding. While others can still use the term "demons" to describe what is going on without having to feed their self belief of Christianity I have seen others do in fact say its demons to feed their religious zeal.
>>41310288>Do demonic people have an instinctive hatred towards God and religion?Yes. Left hand path people, in other words. They're attracted to individuality, spiritual freedom, independent thinking so religion, to them, is less to be stomached than poison.
>>41310288When you have no truth youhave to fill it with emotion.
>>41312271>They're attracted to individuality, spiritual freedom, independent thinking so religionThat's what they think it is but ultimately it's just an inverse of what they perceive as "the norm".>I am an individual, that is why I put my sense of self into other objects, groups and people that are not mainstream >I want spiritual freedom, that is why I am going to shackle my practices to anything that isn't Christian based.>I think for myself, that is why I let outcasts be my lens to the outer world
>>41312302>Implying you have truth in youYou literally Stan a baby killer, bud.
>>41310288They belive religio=boombers.
when people are living in the dark, they find it comfy and don't want to leaveaccepting religion as something they are OK with, would mean taking a look at themselves and how their living their liveslike some party girl in university is probably going to react negatively to religion, because having any acceptance of it would mean changing her life
>>41310288No, demons can be pretty friendly if you're actually nice to them.
>>41312261As long as it is metaphorical, sure. Though imo they are still somewhat patronizing. A lot seem to presume everyone already knows their religioin is true and it's just 'pride' or 'sin' or some other personal failing that prevents them.
>>41312080True creation is the ability to manifest self-sustaining, sentient and conscious life that can exist independently of it's creator.Saturnians cannot achieve this, and work to enslave and suppress life that can turn against them.
>>41312323I don't even know what you're sayingWhat do you mean?
>>41310303I mean, to the other side, preachers have no moral currency, so they just see this as activists yelling at politicians more or less, who cares.
>>41312434YHWH killed babies in the flood. And he killed babies with the death of all the firstborns of Egypt. He also called Genocide against the children (along with the adults) of the Amalekites.
>>41312444It's on God to do what he will with his creation.Death of the body isn't the end.All is spirit.Maybe that was to save more people.
>>41312452Dude, if your "God" has to act different because of the Butterfly effect, then he's not God. What are you even trying to say?
>>41312456Freewill
>>41312444>Do evil things to people you hate>Claim that it is righteous and that God did it>Do evil things to people you hate>Claim that it is morally good to do so and that those people deserved to suffer for your own satisfactionI wonder what is worse.
>>41312458He already interacted with the world, moron.
>>41312461There are consequences but people can do whatever.The thing I assume God wants to do is let people exist honestly.Some people die as a result of sin.Even sin that is not their fault but is the devil's fault.That's a hard question the jews addressed to Jesus.He said it was the devil's sin to prove theglory of the sons and daughters of God I think.There is great evil and great peace.I think the Lord mentioned that if he wereto make corrections where would he make an end, when someone said it's enough?He does where he will.
With great faith apparently we can heal the sick of any ailment.
>>41312478Yeah, still doesn't prove he's The Creator or Good.
>>41312492There are other things that require a lot of work to state but I'll copy and paste somethingMaybe I can find an articulation suitable for something
>>41312503Dude, don't even bother, it's just going to make me cringe even more. Again, you Stan a baby killer. There's no way around it, I'm sorry.
Wisdom is the difference between right and wrongFreewill the choiceWe the accumulation of our choicesThe devil had to sin because he's evilWe had to fall for it because we aren't perfectImperfection is the wellspring of actionThe spot in-between right and wrong is Jacob's ladder to the throne of the most High.God created in the order he did to elicit understanding over motionAwareness over infinity and mortalityIs how faith is the catalyst for personal designThe wages of our sin is deathAlbeit death doesn't existThe only way to die is to be stagnated into oblivionLed as far away as it takes from the rest of our character choicesWith hellThe ability to not die confirmed by death burning in torment tooIt's a hardcore lesson in understandingAll is spiritWe beget understanding between the parameters he set before usHe fleshed them out of two prime concepts: humility and pride.Judgment is a deduction
We aren't perfect so we cant judge perfectlyIf we don't take peace for our Messiah then we are a hypocrite biting the hand that feeds usBecause we cant produce from the voidWe have to go about in humilityHell is a checkpoint to prove humanity has no hope in pride.We cant lead our own soul so we couldn't save ourselves from stagnation and couldn't go ahead of GodAnd we cant produce atoms/ from the void.Since the afterlife is a resurrection we have need of sustenanceThere is no water in hell and nothing grows.We eat bread and wisdom.Also if the devil could produce from the void or lead man in concert at a primordial basis taking the reins from the Almighty GodIt would be done and he would simply go do that and there would be no contentionHe is the father of liesThere is a fundamental dichotomy at the heart of all thingsPertaining to life and death and the nuance of information attributed to itIn this case we were built in the image of GodOur sensory organs context the world in understanding and our understanding of humility and pride fleshes out our soul vehicle.All the sins pertain to pride but they are the most nuanced pride can be at a fundamental level.Love is the only thing that exceeds material loss.
>>41312511Also apparently with enough faith we canresurrect the dead
>>41311810Picrel is deception thoughGod is creator, creator is loveAny wrathful sense you have is demonic, but people relish the feeling so deeply they fail to comprehend this and even attribute it to GodWrong God, friendThere he stands with a whip, lmao, you know littleIlluminati/masons/whatever want to kill God and usurp him. How? Make you stop believing. Your consciousness affects reality. Here's the scam>pick a bunch of people>Tell them "God is love but he hates you :^)">They turn away, disbelieve, weakening God>They corrupt your spirit, making it evil and sinful>Weakening God>>41311851Great example of people duped into working for the devil.
>>41312478Humans exist to expand universal consciousnessAll religions are stories to help you understand this concept
>>41312634We exist in the in-between because we aren't perfectReligion was made around helping Moses help the people understand However truth is self evidentIt can be sought out and foundIt's not an opinionScience and wisdom are discoveryThere are fundamental laws
I think we are in agreement I just posted that^
Stewardship is thatTo bring things into harmony with truth
Oh I mean helping people understandNot particularly Moses
>>41310288Most americans got their foreskin stolen because some dumb sandnigger decided it was 'evil' to have one. I would be pissed too
>>41310288Without religion demons don’t even exist so actually demons worship religion and god which is why they act the way they do, in opposition to those things. Just as a shadow exists in reverence of the object that casts it whether it wants to or not.
>>41310288Religion is God roleplaying personas. There is only an infinite and immortal Godhead that has always and will always exist. Literally just keeping the balance going for experiences to stave off boredom. We're just finger puppets. Simply live your life for good or bad. It will all even out.
>>41310288I'll address it two ways>by your postThe people don't, but the demons attached to them do, and whisper in their ear. >by your imageAtheism is a little funny because at the core it's just a wager. They lean into scientific explanation, which is great, but answers nothing fundamental. It's a massive cognitive dissonance (this is why they react so energetically).Examples>The universe is reality and began at the big bang, emerging from a 0D singularity>>everything came from nothing and we don't know how. >Objects are composed of matter>>matter is made of nothing when we look deeply into it, we're not sure how that creates 3D objects. >Human consciousness is a result of neurons and neurochemicals>>we don't know what it is, how it arises from matter, or if nonliving things are conscious.
>>41313266You have a child but he becomes a dancer instead of a doctor. How could you let this happen? He has free will and thus has a choice between aligning to your will or eschewing it.
i'll leave it up to you whether or not i'm demonic but what i can't stand is dogmatic practice and using it to lord over others
Religion too many rituals, make ppl fight...>do ritual or bad spirit>dont do ritual or bad spiritNot believe in bad afterlife, such idea cause me worries and sadness, have friends many religions :(Have friends muslims, not want them go bad afterlifeHave friends atheists, not want them go bad afterlifeHave friends jews, not want them go bad afterlifeHave friends christians, not want them go bad afterlifeToo many rituals. Confusing. Be kind self kind others, even if different rituals.
>>41313514I have...sadness...worries...fears bc religion people threaten torture me torture othersBe kind each other.No demonsNo bad afterlifeBe friends each other :(
>>41311265>Using things from the past to justify shitty behavior now, unable to let go of your own ego.Like (((their))) time in Babylon?
>>41311265>Surprised it took this long to have our first example of a hatred possessed monster to show up.>pointing out documented abuse is hatredI cannot imagine why people hate you lol
>>41311366>narcissistic projection
>>41312621One of the few good posters in this threadA true adherent to God
Ppl get angry at being threaten w torture for right ritual/wrong ritualBe kind self kind others
>>41313514The only bad afterlife is the one a person makes for themselves.Just imagine manifestation here, but without the delay. Instant. Black mirror.Be good, think good, do good.That's all. The rest is lies by people trying to control others and fearful footsoldiers.
>>41313518I like you. Don't worry about people threatening you with torture, they are torturing themselves and misery loves company.
>>41313244>>41313253How do you know?
Give me a reason why anyone should worship whatever created this shitshow realityAbrahamic golems I swearThread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1hSSuc42P8
The punishment people face is a repayment for the torment they've caused othersThe book of Ezekiel says that if a man repents and asks for forgiveness he will be forgiven and the sin will no longer be remembered against him
>>41313897no one has tormented others more than christians lmaoalso amazing how you ask for forgiveness from your cosmic jew instead of actually compensating people you've harmed. this is how your priests and soldiers rape and kill then feel like they still go to heavennarcissist abuse religion
>>41312459no you see they're right because God wrote the book they read
>>41313535>>41313544>Proving my point
>>41313919Man is corrupt God is not
>>41313919You're trying too hard, sorry. May God bless you.
>>41313929Again your hatred has completely missed the point I was trying to make. Is it better to do something horrible as a community only to shift the blame onto another force, or to accept responsibility for what you did but twist it as a good thing? I know certain communities who even do both and are completely fucked in the head because of it.
>>41313876Nothing created reality
>>41313933>god knows only thing that can be perfect is god>creates beings anyway>gets mad and blames themretard logic>>41313940>no argumentI accept your defeat
>>41313948oh idk I don't subscribe to a commune
>>41313969If we were perfect we wouldn't exist in timeHe said he would forgive anyone
>>41312072>ancient family lines that maintain practices that have existed for thousands of yearsthis honestly sounds like BS. I don't believe there are family lines that have worshiped Satan for thousands of years. Have you actually met anyone like this or read about them from a credible source?
>>41314039god is perfect and he can exist in this realitychrist golem logic fail again>creates the problems he claims to solve>forgive anyone but not EVERYONE for a flaw he madelol fuck off. so billions of humans went to hell eternal torture for 4000+ years just because your demiurge wanted to incarnate as a rabbi in the middle of the desert
>>41313930>no point at alllol seethe narcissist
>>41310288>religion=spirituality stay manipulated, retard
>>41314052>be God>create the world, everything in it, imbue everyone with a rational soul and free will because you don't want mindless slaves>humans fuck it up by not being able to follow the simplest commands that are for their own good (don't eat out of the one tree God said not to, don't goon, don't rape, don't murder, believe in the guy that literally made you)>offer forgiveness for all the disobedience if you just believe and try to do better>degenerate demonic faggots on 4chan whine that God made reality this way when they've done nothing productive with their lifeand ur a dipshit bro. Jesus literally visited Sheol after his crucifixion and ministered to the people who died before Christ, taking to heaven everyone that would repent and believe the Gospel. I stg I see you in every thread making the most 5head arguments against Christianity while completely misunderstanding salvation and theologyWhat's your wedge for not believing? Bitterness at the world? Pride? You probably just don't want to stop gooning that's usually what it is
>>41314052The Almighty God created from the voidThe God of heavenThe God of hellThese are a deviation made in genesisThe God of heaven is the Almightyset into separationHe is the Lord of Wisdomwho leads the path in timeCompletely separate in infinity albeitfor our purpose he createdWe exhibit awareness over a dichotomy of forcesWe perceive as we can
>>41314071>tired old christian copesfree will doesn't exist according to the bible and is incompatible with an omniscient deity. it's a modern evangelical deflection that doesn't hold up to scrutiny. and obviously to gaslight humans for the faults of a flawed creatoragain your god knows only he can be perfect but blames you for your sins lmao. harrowing of hell is made up nonsense not even in your bible. gtfo golem
>>41314077>lord of wisdom>creates satan despite saying he hates sin and evilyeah ok lol
>>41314100Contrast exists for the sake of body/form
>>41314108A good tree cannot bear bad fruitThanks for disproving your jewish tales
>>41314094yeah well I'm a Catholic, not a sola scriptura numnut. The church teaches (infallibly) that humans have free will. The harrowing of hell is also a Catholic doctrine, though not technically infallible.And God IS perfecting us, it's called the process of sanctification, which will continue after death (in purgatory) or you go straight to Heaven. We believe in predestination (God knows who will and won't be saved) but not double predestination- God doesn't predestine anyone to Hell, you can only go their by your own volition. You literally just have to believe the Gospel and repent bro (turn away from sin)
>>41314114You wouldn't exist save for timeThe Lord in his paramount mercy will forgive all.To glorify the sons and daughters of GodWe must work.All is spirit, such that it is God.We go about for his sake; one side to the other.Wisdom is for those who cling to life.And those who experience freewill understanding of death go the way of the grave.There has to be choice, even evil.Save for the work of the Son of Man.That is peace to adhere to faith.To be saved by peace and that by the glory of God we fight evilAnd love hate.We are those who live.
>>41314128What you believe isn't biblicalAlso catholicism is provably bunk. Reconcile how the Borgia papacy existed while declaring Papal infallibility lmao
>>41314143>You wouldn't exist save for timeOk gods angels and demons don't exist because they're not in time eitherWho knew you were an atheist
>>41314151They are
>>41314157>You wouldn't exist save for timemake up your mind lmao
>>41314167I don't understand your point friend
>>41314146And who created the Bible? The Catholic church. Sola scriptura isn't biblicalThe pope is only infallible when speaking ex cathedra, which hasn't happened since like 1950. Explain again how Catholicism is bunk
>>41314179>all scripture is god breathedYou just did a hecking blasphemy attributing gods work to manGood job heretic
>>41312032You browse an occult/paranormal board and you are ignorant of how trannies literally worship a death cult?Are you retarded?
>>41314189Retard, I'm not denying that all Scripture is the word of God. It is the word of God (this in the Catechism of the Catholic Church). But the deposit of faith constitutes scripture AND tradition. Explain again how Catholicism is bunk
God will turn every man into a woman and fuck them.>"nuh uh, no he won't"Yes, he will just watch.
>>41314167The angels and demons exhibit freewill too
>>41314217You literally pray to saints and call your leaders "father" lolYou know christianity/catholicism is bullshit because constantine rejected it all his life despite christianizing rome. he converted only on his deathbed (maybe this was made up to save face for the clergy). it's a control tool of elites and it has worked for 2000 years on you golems
Jesus stated that we will someday be likethe angels if we keep goingYou can get a pretty good idea of them if you read the new testamentAnd the old testament has an account of them as wellIt is said that in the end of days they will fight the demons or whatever Satan and them I guess and they "will love not their own life"
>>41314277>if you let your dad and your uncle abuse you>they'll take you to disneyland one daylol abuse religion"he who cannot be trusted with a little cannot be trusted with a lot"
>>41314274NtaReligion is not at all the important bitMan is corrupt God is notThe bible says not to call anyone yourfather because we have one fatherAll the nonsense of religion is mans attributionGod is a universal truth albeit the gospel is fine shepherdingHis commandments are the ten strongAnd we should mind the seven sins that's it
>>41314280There is life and death either wayIf we have faith we will be saved
>>41310288I literallly just want you to leave me alone.That's it. It's rather expensive to gear up and lock and load.I'd muc prefer you just go do your thing over there and not come over here.That's reasonable, right?
>>41314274Again, praying to saints is historically a Christian tradition and it's affirmed as good by the church. Jesus didn't literally mean call nobody father on earth (we all have dads), he was saying not to equate anyone on earth to the heavenly Father.And Constantine was baptized on his deathbed because that was the practice at the time- they thought you should be baptized as late as possible so it would cleanse all of your sins. Your arguments are terrible faggot
>>41314299>having faith on something who already abuses you from the getgook have fun getting eaten by archons
>>41314302You can only buy something if people are nice enough to elicit itAnd God that he feeds you and gives you water.
>>41314304>Again, praying to saints is historically a Christian tradition and it's affirmed as good by the church. Jesus didn't literally mean call nobody father on earth (we all have dads), he was saying not to equate anyone on earth to the heavenly Father.No its not. >And Constantine was baptized on his deathbed because that was the practice at the time- they thought you should be baptized as late as possible so it would cleanse all of your sins. Your arguments are terrible faggotNo it wasn't. He was pagan up to then.The christcope tears just keep coming
>>41310288>Do demonic people have an instinctive hatred towards God and religion?There are fanatics of all stripes.From an anthropological perspective, religious faiths all deem their region the root of all civilization and even the root of the universe. With what mankind knows now, is that as true as it seems?I don't think it matters, because so many people remain in their home region that it makes no difference. Even those who leave it for economic opportunity does not change this reality, because the root of their world does not exist where they chose to make their fortunes.
>>41314305Saturnus devours his childrenThat is the paradigm of evilSuch that those with unrestrained appetite are devoured in pride
>>41314313Saying "nuh uh" isn't an argument dipshit. Origen wrote in 233 AD that the souls of departed saints could intercede for people if you prayed to them. And literally NOBODY has interpreted Jesus's words as saying you literally shouldn't call anyone father.Say someone did- what would you call your biological father then? A different thing, which would still mean father. Bffr bro
>>41314308So that's a "no", then?Well, alright I guess.This could have been way chiller, but 'aight.
>>41314334you are mentally ill friend seek help
>>41314333>233 ADlmaoalso why are you referencing him when mainstream christianity considered him a hereticKeep the copes coming>what would you call your biological father then“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his own father, mother, wife, children, brothers, sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple."Rabbi yeshua is your family now goyslave.
>>41314345Can you not understand metaphor? He's saying you need to love God so much that you hate your own family in comparison. I swear to God bro what's your problem. What did you do to develop such a strong hatred for Christianity?
>>41314386>m-m-metaphorlol the last desperate cope of the christ cultist>hatredit's a lie. it's only natural to disprove it unless you are mentally ill and delusional
You didn't set course to your bones and flesh
>>41314417Nta God made us of the clayIf you cough up your soul what remains?
>>41311956If the Kingdom is Within, then there's no real need for preachers, deacons, ministers, priests, bishops, cardinals, evangelists, witnessing, gurus, rabbis, churches, temples, synagogues, the One-Temple, or the Pope! You no longer need their instructions to worship the Omni-God outside o you - You have the Spark of Divinity, and all you need to do is Remember! That is threatening to the entrenched Establishment because the Idea that you are God within matter makes it sacred! A lot of people have died horribly because the Patriarchy would fall if everyone realized this. "Thou art God/dess!" Just because you have the Spark of Divinity doesn't mean you have superpowers, nor does it mean that you're the Boss God -- It means that God doesn't make any trash, and everything, "good or bad", is there for your Enlightenment - So, Remember!!
>>41311265How chauvanist to assume how others feel.How arrogant to assume one's inherent state of righteousness.Keep up the good work.
A lot of us have a strong aversion to YWH and his children/angels/dominons etc.Some of the older generation demons, Fallen or Nephilim actively hate them.I am of the strong belief that /x/ has been ruined because of the terrible janitors on here letting Christfags, low quality threads and schitzoposting occult politics being allowed here.Film is NOT a great represenation of how it actually is, for example.I am a demon and I can go into a Church and what not without exploding or projectile vomitting. Is it annoying, slightly uncomfortable and sometimes makes me tad nauseated? Ofc, but then again, I have a fleshsuit protecting me mostly.
>>41310303>don't understand why preachers bother going to places like that>Mark 2:17 >When Jesus heard this, he told them, “Healthy people don’t need a doctor—sick people do. I have come to call not those who think they are righteous, but those who know they are sinners.”btw im going to wait because im drunk listening to Hegelian Dialectic by Mobb Deep but FUCK waiting 120 seconds to post, wtf
>>41315713You are a demon? But you're human? Tell me more how did you discover you're supposedly a demon? Did you possess a human and take over their body? Or did you "realize" you were a demon at some point
>>41310303>>41315748>take out the beam from your own eyeclean up the vatican and your pastors first from their degeneracy lmao>>41315960American zogbot thinks everyone against him is a libtard lol. Even then they are still less delusional than you judeo fairytale psycho retards
>>41316006yeah those dudes from centuries ago using those words were also leftist bro lmaogo grovel to the sky rabbi, golem
>>41316032>>41316039you sound mad and seething lmaodidn't you know jesus said christians should love? tsk tsk
>>41316041>the only to fight the jews is to worship jews>and forgive my enemies (jews)>and turn my cheek>and help them build the third templeWait a minute..
>>41316058>doesn't want to listen to rabbi yeshuaenjoy hell then lol
>>41310288We hate demons that's whyAbrahamic religions are demonic
>>41316065>dodges the argumentI accept your defeat zogbot
>>41316080if you didn't care you wouldn't be replying to my thoughts and feelings lolnow go away mr uncaring retard fag
>>41315713I exercise you of your host, in Jesus Christ's holy name.Amen.
>>41310288“The National Socialist Movement is not concerned with exerting religious dogmatism, neither for nor against a particular denomination, but the fact that a man in the forefront of political life must claim the right to represent a religious conviction which runs contrary to that of Rome, reveals to what degree spiritual gagging has already been successful. [...] Accordingly, the so called old testament must be abolished once and for all as a book of religion. By this, the unsuccessful attempt of the last one and a half thousand years to make us spiritually into Jews will be eliminated. This is an attempt for which we, among other things, had to thank our terrible materialistic Jewish rulers. [...] In no German region has a religious genius appeared. No one has come forth to reveal through his life a new religious type to replace the existing ones. This fact is decisive insofar as no German conscious of responsibility may direct a demand to leave the churches at those who still cling to them in faith. If one did so it could possibly make the masses uncertain and disintegrate them spiritually. Before we destroy what the people presently have, we must be prepared to offer a substitute.”Rosenberg, Alfred; The Myth of the 20th Century, 1931
>>41317718german original:„Die nationalsozialistische Bewegung hat keine religiöse Dogmatik zu treiben, weder für noch gegen ein Bekenntnis, aber die Tatsache, daß man einem im politischen Leben stehenden Menschen das Recht auf Vertretung einer religiösen Überzeugung, die der römischen zuwiderläuft, bestreiten will, zeigt, bis zu welchem Grad die geistige Knebelung bereits gediehen ist. [...] Abgeschafft werden muß danach ein für allemal das sogenannte Alte Testament als Religionsbuch. Damit entfällt der mißlungene Versuch der letzten anderthalb Jahrtausende, uns geistig zu Juden zu machen, ein Versuch, dem wir u. a. auch unsere furchtbare materielle Judenherrschaft zu danken hatten. [...] In keinem deutschen Lande ist ein religiöses Genie aufgetreten, um neben den bestehenden religiösen Typen uns einen neuen vorzuleben. Diese Tatsache ist entscheidend insofern, als kein verantwortungsbewußter Deutscher die Forderung auf Verlassen der Kirchen an jene richten darf, die noch gläubig an ihnen hängen. Man würde sie vielleicht unsicher machen, seelisch zerspalten und ihnen doch keinen echten Ersatz für das Verlorene schenken können.“Rosenberg, Alfred; Mythus des XX. Jahrhunderts, 1931
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>>41314759>I'm not hatful or angry despite expressing my spite towards you, you are just prideful! >You are not righteous because you called me out and made me feel bad!>Now watch as I proceed to assume everything about you to antagonize you!and once again, you have proven my point.
>>41310288>have an instinctive hatred towards GodWhy do Christians fear the bible?The bible has power over Christians.The words of the bible burn the christian.He is like a video game monster with a exposed weak point.The atheists love the bible and can not get enough of it.The Christians are burned by the words of the bible when the atheists reads it.
>>41314274>Lele Peter.jpgMeanwhile in the bible>You Peter are SATAN and my enemy!
>>41311810>Jesus hates the LGBTLOL.Lets read the bible instead of your modern made up pictures.
>>41311190>feeding into sins with more sin>>41311265>Sin comes in many different forms and it feeds off one another.>>41311527>judged for their sinful/slothfulLets read the bible together!Look kids having children is literally a SIN!!11111ONEWhen did you confess your filthy sinful desire to have children?
>>41311910>atheism which is funny because most jews are atheists, why didnt the image creator put a yin yang symbol or om symbol too?????How schizo are you? There is a literal star of David in the picture! >YEA However JEEEEWWWSSSSS>Why is there no yin yang symbol or om symbol too?You have schizophrenia.
>>41316068>enjoy hell then lolHell is not real.>b-b-b if you do not do what I tell you .... you end up in a impossible to exist place that I made up!>Checkmate! Good cop bad cop scam.
>>41311956Nothing. Its a perfectly natural truth. But they always use it to push their "you are god" line
>>41310288it's hard to pin-down true obsession/possession. there are signs, but the person in question would have to be a family member or close friend for you to see those signs. one of them, ONE, is autismo screeching at the mere mention of God/Christianity or some logos that they see/saw.it's a decent topic, as the type of individual who would be predisposed to demonic shenaniganery is also the type to be protesting in front of a church.pic unrelated
>>41310303They're there to soul win. Like when the pharisees asked Jesus why he ate with the down and out. He was there for the sick, not the healthy. Those people need God the most i bet. And those who do that are actually pretty brave. You're supposed to do this kind of thing.
>>41314334Btw I'm not the opI'm a different anonI post all this stuff>>41314332>>41312539>>41312544And a bunch of other things in this threadI post all over the place
>>41310288yes. atheism is blindness caused by demons that want to keep their source of food from being lost to them.
>>41311257I can think of a million ways athiests have wronged people through corruption of culture into what we have now and much worse in athiestic states, but I don't start shrieking at you pretentious neckbeards when half the things you say are insulting to Christianity and projecting your own evils onto others. Your argument is pretty jewish.
>>41312032The ones I've talked to basically grew up in a horror movie. Maybe they aren't honest with you or a are just the attention seeking type.
>>41312444this is coming from someone who killed their own babies and needs to project the guilt onto others to continue doing evil for the sake of petty addictions and using others.
>>41313919this is as far from knowing any history as one can get.
>>41322726Dude, none of the babies I "killed" were fully formed humans, you moron. You really wanna die on that hill? You really want to defend your God against a criticism he can do nothing but make excuses for. Get a grip, and stop following me around.
>>41322757>>41322726This dumbass doesn't see that appealing to that type of shit only makes YHWH's kill count worse, fucking idiot.
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