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If you don't ever have a child you will never fully understand what it is to be a human being. You will never truly reach adulthood. You will never understand the deepest form of love it is possible to feel. You will never understand the sacrifices your parents made for you. You will never know how much they love you. Having a child is the greatest thing that can ever happen to you. If you can do it, you should. You will never be complete without a child.
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>>41318177
You can just replace having a kid with doing opiates in your post and it makes equal if not more sense
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That's true in a way but on the other hand this is a sick world that's going to get so much worse and you can't prepare for it unless you're wealthy. You will be setting your children up to suffer immensely so you can 'understand what it is to be a human being'. I see what you're saying though, it would be nice to raise a family but that's not going to happen for all of us and that's fine too.
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It might be worth doing if women weren't complete dogshit.
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>>41318177
no, samsara
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>>41318177
>You will never understand the sacrifices your parents made for you
I just watched a mother stab her 5 year old toddler in the back multiple times.

Both of my parents have abandoned me at various points in my life due to their own problems.

No, parents don't get a Get out of Jail Free card from being judged and being held accountable for their actions. You might be an evil selfish parent having kids for the wrong reasons if you think otherwise.
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>>41318177
nah, it seems more likely only the shittiest people get to be parents.
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>>41318177
>Having a child is the greatest thing that can ever happen to you. If you can do it, you should. You will never be complete without a child.
Or it's like how some people function: they were mediocre and unimpactful in their lives so they idolize and project the one thing they did manage to accomplish.

The point isnt having a child anon, it's about being the right person at the right time. It's nurturing people that need aid. A foster parent can do the same, or a commander giving disaster relief can be much more an adult than a guy sitting in a cubicle doing menial work only to return home to his children. Someone who ensures other people can live such lives in freedom might feel things no stay at home parent can feel.
>You will never know how much they love you.
Friend of mine was abused by "parents" who tried to keep a cute outward face and being the golden family on the outside.
We get it youre happy but drop the lyrical talk man. You are not to pull a klaus schwab telling people
>yuo vill not
just because you took a shot at parenthood. Many came before you and many come after.
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>>41318177
>Blah blah blah I couldn't use a condom because I'm a primate

That's you.
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>>41318217
Fag
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>spawn another human with the curse of being alive and then possibly not existing for infinity after death

No thanks. Why would I curse someone to exist?
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>>41318177

Don't worry, OP, I'm on kid #5.

These morons in the comments are just seething no woman has asked them to give her a child.

Imagine being a biological being, imprinted at a genetic level with the need to reproduce, and managing to fail at that?

Life must be miserable and they are going to come up with every excuse to cope.

I have multiple kids and came from a highly abusive household to the point I was taken into foster care and made a ward of the state at the age of 13.

Do you know what that taught me? To not be a piece of shit and keep the cycle going. I raise my family with love and patience, though I'm still a disciplinarian at heart as I believe structure is the most important asset in raising a child.

Just smile knowing most of us functioning members hear your message and agree. There is no feeling even remotely close to that of the love between a parent and child.

Those who fail to understand this SHOULD fade into oblivion as their genetics are erased from humanity through their inability to reproduce.
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>>41318314
>Durr hurr I do thing that we've been designed to do for millions of years so I'm special.

Having sex isn't an achievement.
Having a kid isn't an achievement.
There's a line of ape men behind you, stretching into the past until it becomes squirrel men and fish men.
All of them fucked and made kids.

This is nothing significant.

We do not care.
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>>41318314
You're a real G, well said. The main reason I posted this thread was in the hope that maybe the right people would see it. I know some people are on the fence and if I could nudge any of those in the right direction it's worth it. I was an antinatalist for most of my life, I'll be eternally grateful I changed my mind. I wish you and your family all of the best
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>>41318177
My parents left me for dead fuck off
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>>41318534
My parents were awesome lol
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>>41318534
I wonder why. Maybe its time to do a little bit of self reflecting?
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>>41318524

And that's why you'll never get it. It's not about the sex, I can knuckle out my seed if I'm needing release.

Until you have a woman begging for your seed to make her pregnant, you won't get it. Though I doubt that will ever happen for you, which is why you are salty on this topic.

Again: Fade into oblivion. You failed your singular purpose as a biological entity. Good riddance to your failed genetics.
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>>41318217

Tell your mom that.
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>>41318177

You will never understand God until you drop all judgments and prejudices from your perspective. Everything is relative.
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>>41318314

Not everyone comes into the world with the same dharma. Simple as.
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>>41318314

Enlightenment is internal. If you need to have kids to feel better about yourself, you're only halfway there.
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>>41318177
Fuck your Hermetic Luciferian bullshit; also good job bringing life into the Kali Yuga, dumbass
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>>41318704
It's not a judgement, it's an experience, being a patent changed me forever and I don't that experience is unique to me. All parents could tell you the same, there's a reason we all think it's so marvellous. God gave us the ability to procreate, we're wasting a precious gift if we don't act upon it.
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>>41318796

>It's not a judgement, it's an experience

Your claim that:
>If you don't ever have a child you will never fully understand what it is to be a human being

is a judgment.

>being a patent changed me forever and I don't that experience is unique to me

Being a parent changed some people forever for worse, no?

>there's a reason we all think it's so marvellous

He who is filled with Virtue is like a newborn child.
Wasps and serpents will not sting him;
Wild beasts will not pounce upon him;
He will not be attacked by birds of prey.
His bones are soft, his muscles weak,
But his grip is firm.
He has not experienced the union of man and woman, but is whole.
His manhood is strong.
He screams all day without becoming hoarse.
This is perfect harmony.

You don't need to procreate to achieve this state.

>God gave us the ability to procreate, we're wasting a precious gift if we don't act upon it.

Not everyone comes into the world with the same dharma. Expecting everyone else to follow the same path you've taken is dogma.
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>>41318869
I have spent most of my life without a kid. I thought I knew what was going on, but as soon as that baby was born everything changed. It's a beautiful thing and I think it's something that should be aimed for by anyone who can.
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>>41318869

Genesis 1:28
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>>41318177
this world doesn't deserve my kids. It's full of flesh and shit and blood. I'm not wrapping my kids in flawed flesh.
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>>41318915

When you think you know what's best for someone else, time will prove you wrong in some capacity due your limited (by default) perspective.

>>41318918

The Bible is man made.
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>>41318565
Have you ever tried following your own advice?
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>>41318637
> you'll never get it.
Because i am human being and not unwashed wild animal and slave to primitive instincts, thats why
Your painfully mediocre genes have no value
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>>41318177
I've seen plenty of parents who do not love their children and should not have ever had them, creating infinitely more misery for themselves and everyone around them. your assertation is simply objectively false, or at the very least relative as all fuckin' get out.
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>>41318637
>that's why you'll never get it.
I am supposed to care?
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I live with the love of my life, we would, I wholeheartedly believe, make great parents. We have not been blessed with children. So what now? What if it was off the table for you?

What if you had to watch the scum of the Earth pop out kid after kid and fill them with every kind of trauma. What if you had to listen to blokes who…will freely tell you that they wish they never had kids?

What then lad?

You would have to come to terms with it. You would feel the guilt and shame of not fulfilling one of the purposes of being born yourself? The end of a proud lineage? Your family name? Would you spend thousands upon thousands? Blame yourself and the woman you love? Would you blitz yourself with alcohol? Would you hold it together? Would yo
Ever be able to make your parents proud? Would you try every mad therapy? Would you hold your relationship together. Would you find meaning elsewhere? Would you wank yourself into oblivion? Become a hedonist? Become a Shaman and touch the face of God? Would you eschew separation and fall into non-duality.

We’re YOU ever actually ‘born’?????

You might be a parent? But are you still a child yourself?

Pray for me Brothers and Sisters. And blessings and gratitude for your lovely family.
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>>41318177
>"I'm better than you" thread no. 68,569
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>>41319216

So are you? But you want people to listen/believe you.

Hypocrisy in motion.
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>>41318177
Jesus never had a child. Your post makes no sense.

Cool image tho thats the kinda visuals i get on shrooms.

Its like your vision gets that pattern as a transparent overlay.
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>>41319489
buddha had a son and then the literal night his son was born buddha abandoned his family and life to go become a monk because he realized he just fucked up. the logic being that he could never fully protect his son from suffering through conventional material wealth even if he was a king of a vast empire
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>>41319480

I'm not pretending to be God or assuming I can speak for him.
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>>41318177
that’s just biologism cope. Find god
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>>41319489
Maybe if he had had a kid things would have gone different for him
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>>41318177
> picrel
this entire thread
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>>41320633
Already did, that's why I had a kid
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>>41318314
Get a load of this smug hylic.

>Imagine being a biological being
Impossible.
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>>41324101
You found Satan, not God.
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>>41318177
Utterly laughable. Every parent I know appears to have their psyche frozen at whatever age they were when they became a parent. They never matured or became better people.

As I’ve gotten older I’ve come to realize that the nuclear family alone simply isn’t enough. Community is necessary to raise healthy kids. Parents need support and guidance as much as kids do.
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>>41324178
No
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>>41324203
There should be community involved with raising a child, I agree with that, the modern way is wrong, two parents cannot give a child everything they need. But it's the modern world that's shit, not being a parent.
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>>41318314
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>>41318177
Having a child is the most nonsense thing you could ever do. It is a cope made by people that have already down it and they can never put into words the real reasoning. They'll blame their bodies saying its biological but imagine but all we biologically want is to nut, children are irrelevant.

Why on earth would I deliberately chose for myself to suffer AND risk an innocent being the chance of suffering just to understand someone else? Parental love is the most false kind of love as it is reasonless. To love someone without reason is to not love them at all, you don't appreciate anything about their identify. You just love them uuuuhh just because. My parents love for me is meaningless and irrelevant. I could go kill some puppies for fun and they might say they still love me, if that's the case then my actions don't and never have mattered to them really.

And most importantly for what gain do I have? If life is great and wonderous why is it so wrong to rather dedicate myself to enjoy that life instead of needing to dedicate myself to a child. And you DO need to dedicate yourself to a child if you have one or your a shitty parent. And if life isn't great or wonderous then why would I willingly decide to bring someone into said world? There's no positive gain for me. If you have a child for your own gain then that's selfish. But then there's no reason to have one at all beyond peer pressure and societal norms.

And your whole "never be an adult" is exactly that. Some kind of Stockholm syndrome of the societal norm you've fallen victim too. Almost boasting that because you can be the most normal that somehow it betters you and even worse somehow means everyone not like you is filth and garbage, further perpetuating the norm. I may be an autist, but are infertile couples also doomed to be adults according to you? No matter how many incarnations or worlds I am in, I will never have a child.
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>>41318177
I just got one of those life sized sex dolls and pretend is my daughter
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>>41324449
>To love someone without reason is to not love them at all
> You just love them uuuuhh just because
Not that I agree with the sentiment of feeling superior just because of your successfull raw-dogging session with your wife - preferably. But your take, anon, is very low-tier as well.

Not to go full Jesus on you, but you "love" because you cannot do anything else but love. There is nothing in existence that is not God's love. Even seemingly distant things like death and suffering is still love, the furthers God could get away from himself, but still encompassed in God. So in other words, you love, precisely, "just because".

Now that being said, most parents - including the ones participating in ritual circle jerk in this thread- do not love their kids "just because", they mostly do not even know what love is, but simply feel good about how their kids make them feel, and the bonus, false, but secure identity that comes with being "a parent". If you read their posts, this is evident.
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>>41324584
The difference to me is the idea of unconditional love vs all conditional love.
Unconditional is not caring, just saying you love them no matter what. No matter what implying it doesn't matter what you do. So what's to love? Its not to say you can't feel the kind of platonic love for your fellow man by knowing he is a man like your. But actual deep family love can't be unconditional. Yeah you are probably right that there's likely something they love in their kids but still.

To me gods love is all conditional. He loves every part and every piece. The sum total and every product of it.
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>>41318177
>I'm enlightened
>I understand the world in terms of in clubs and out clubs
Nope, you're still just an infantile shit ass.
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>>41318177
I know plenty of people with children who are just as childish as ever. I have worked with young children in schools and the sad truth is 99% of them will never recieve the guidance they deserve or exposure to an intelligent adult that will indulge their valid questions without turning them into NPCs.
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having a child today is playing russian roulette with an innocent soul that didn't ask anything
there is significant chances that the futur will be some hellish 1984 digital dictatorship or a fallout style wasteland, not a great environnent for a soul to grow
if i was super wealthy and could protect family and children by shielding them from this decaying society, sure, why not, but in my case the only thing i would reproduce is social misery and poor economic prospect, that will grow worse and and worse in the futur
plus imagine putting your children in public school where there will be brainwashed by liberal teacher, yeah such a loving move
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>>41318177
You are correct but there isn't a single woman on this earth who could even stand looking at me, let alone having sex with me, so I must remain less than a man until I die.
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>>41318637
How do you reconcile the untold amount of suffering that you are now the cause of with being a moral person?
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>>41325065

Fade. Into. Oblivion.

Weak willed people need to die off anyways.

We're leaving the "good times" due to weak men, need to ensure the upcoming generation is ready for the "hard times" they created. Which is going to be on us non-onions men to do.
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>>41325093
Ok so you can't. Got you. Your ad-hominem is really childish as well. Grow up, for the sake of your kids.
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>>41325093
You will never fix anything neither will your offspring. You are lost
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>>41318177
Some parents hate their kids or maybe love one and hate the other. You are talking pure shit.
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>>41324208
Yes.
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>>41318177
Somebody has to breed and raise the next generation of goyim cattle. Most normies will happily step up to the plate and wage their life away for a chance to reproduce. I'm just glad that's not me.



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