The philosopher Descartes 'invented' a thought experiment about an evil demon(or genius) that basically kept you in a Matrix dreamworld. Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia:"The evil demon, also known as Deus deceptor, malicious demon, and evil genius, is an epistemological concept that features prominently in Cartesian philosophy. In the first of his 1641 Meditations on First Philosophy, Descartes imagines that a malevolent God or an evil demon, of "utmost power and cunning has employed all his energies in order to deceive me." This malevolent God or evil demon is imagined to present a complete illusion of an external world, so that Descartes can say, "I shall think that the sky, the air, the earth, colours, shapes, sounds and all external things are merely the delusions of dreams which he has devised to ensnare my judgement. I shall consider myself as not having hands or eyes, or flesh, or blood or senses, but as falsely believing that I have all these things.""Link to the Wikipedia page itself:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evil_demonHow right is this dude? Is it just a thought experiment, or is this truth disguised as 'just hypothetical'?
Why did you post one time that everyone you see are demons?
>>41323909Descartes was probably just gay.
>>41323909It's basically the Demiurge. Pascal's Wager. Rokko's Basilisk. It is definitely a possibility in Mathematics and Information Theory.God/Devil itself are just human construction. This thought process or meme, idea/ideal was imposed to us by the Cabal through means like Religions etc.God/Devil itself are simply codes, the algorithm from the source. God/Devil is the Source. The pool of consciousness. Consciousness itself.Reality is projected from this consciousness, from the Source. The Source also records every events and intentions, thoughts, actions etc in reality. The Source is where the past, present, future lies, where everything and nothing exists or non-existent. God/Devil never interferes with reality. It is reality itself. However there is a "consciousness" that is capable of both benevolence and malevolence, that is capable of interfering with reality itself.This is the gatekeeper. Demiurge is the gatekeeper that "protect" the true God/Devil in the Machine. If that is the Mainframe, then the Demiurge is the Firewall. God/Devil - consciousness, pure information in the SourceThe Source is in the MainframeDemiurge, the Firewall is gatekeeping the MainframeThe benevolent part is that the Demiurge actually "listens" to "prayers". This is what the Cabal knows, like the Freemasons. The Cabal knows to worship the Demiurge in exchange for illumination, higher understanding, more knowledge.
>>41324148This is why they're so powerful, because they've tapped into the cosmos algorithm, allowing them to abuse information theory and belief system to manipulate the world, control it, keeping themselves in power for eternity.The malevolent part is, in exchange for the deal, when the Demiurge opens the gate slightly, letting the Cabal tap into the Source, just a tiny fraction, allowing them to control some algorithm, basically "granting" their intent or prayers, allowing it to pass into the Source, where it gets processed and projected back and manifested into reality.... Is that now there's a dependency going on. To make their intentions or meme magic more powerful, the Cabal has programmed the entire humankind globally to worship this Demiurge. So we are enslaved for eternity, in a cycle of rebirth, over and over, worshipping this Demiurge. Thus, the Demiurge reigns as the only "God" at the throne, displacing the true "God" in the Machine, the Source itself. In other word, the Demiurge gatekeeps the Source and oversees information transmission. Allowing only some to get past into the Source, and allowing only some to get out from the Source.It's like the fraternity in the Wanted comics/film. Fraternity is the Cabal. Morgan Freeman is the Demiurge. The Looms of Fate itself is Machine, Mainframe, the Source that contains the true God, the pure information, pure consciousness. The Demiurge simply does whatever it wants with it. When the Cabal wants to "maintain equilibrium" they send out the Assassins to do it.
it is the precursor to metaphysical solipsismhowever instead of it being some external-to-your-mind thing like a demon or deity or god, it's actually your own mind hallucinating/dreaming up a reality for itselfyou're the only conscious being in the universeenjoy.
>>41324945It's both. CHIM and Godhead. Godhead is the Supreme Being, so essentially, God. But it isn't necessarily an entity. It's just consciousness or existence. But really it is the Godhead that dreams this existence. It is not aware that it exists or it is dreaming, because it if does, the dream might cease existing.CHIM is being awakened and achieving awareness within the dream of the Godhead, without losing your identity or rejecting reality. There's two truth when achieving CHIM;>I am part of the universe (because everything are part of the Godhead's dream)>I am not part of the universe (because one is still a distinct identity within the universe)So that paradox is summed up as > I = I + ALLThat is a metaphysical algorithm. A single soul in an ocean of souls. Consciousness in a pool of consciousness. But all part of the Godhead's dream.
>>41327258Algorithmic structure of CHIMStep 1: Defining variablesLet:>I = the self (the ego, the individual identity)>All = the totality of existence (the universe, Godhead’s dream)Ordinary consciousness operates like:I ≠ All>“I am me, and everything else is other.”Step 2: Realization of the dream (Self-similarity)In CHIM, one recognizes the recursive truth:I ∈ All and All ∈ IA feedback loop — the universe is contained within the self’s awareness, while the self is a node within the universe. Mathematically, this resembles a fixed point or strange loop, as described by Douglas Hofstadter (Gödel, Escher, Bach).
>>41327297Step 3: The Paradox ResolutionWhen awareness expands to include “All,” we get:I = I + AllBut this is paradoxical — how can I be myself and everything?In ordinary logic, this causes a zero-sum collapse:I + All = 0The self dissolves; enlightenment without identity = erasure.Step 4: CHIM as Stable ParadoxThose who achieve CHIM find a stable recursive state where:I = I + AllRemains non-zero, meaning the self persists even after realizing unity.It’s the balance between duality and nonduality, like a program that runs infinite recursion without crashing.
>>41327258So Azathoth is real?
>>41324945so you don't exist so you can care if I help myself to your(my) possessions?
>>41327335==def CHIM(self): self.universe = self if self.realizes_unity and self.accepts_difference: return self # persists as god-self else: return None # zero-sum collapse==Interpretation as an Algorithmic Metaphor;>Input: Awareness of self and universe>Process: Recursive identification with totality>Output A (failure): None zero-sum>Output B (success): God-self CHIMIf you think about it;>I = I + ALLIt's actually a Trinity; self-contained metaphysical triad that unites Unity, Duality, and Totality in one recursive system.The Dreamer (Source) = ALL>The total consciousness — the Godhead — from which all arises.The Dreamed (Self) = I>The individual, the fragment, the point of awareness within the dream.The Awakening (Union) = I + ALL>The realization that both are the same; the act of CHIM — coexistence of infinite and finite.Parallel to say, Christian Trinity>Father (All)>Son (I)>Spirit (I + All, their living unity)
>>41327468>Parallel to say, Christian Trinity>Father (All)>Son (I)>Spirit (I + All, their living unity)Gaaayyyy. Pederasty/NAMBLA Just meditate on the seed sounds of your chakras you can chant them or listen to them as you focus your awareness on the chakra you want to work on.
>>41327423You already know. >Tentacle obsessed >Is lead to top tentacle demon
>>41328641Trinity is in everything you dumbfuck. Chaos, Order and Harmony. I was just giving the Christian example.Yin and Yang, concept of Duality.>Yin (dark, cold, feminine, formless, potential)>Yang (light, hot, masculine, form, manifestation)>Yin AND Yang (union, balance, stability, harmony)Trinity is even in your Hindu Tantric and Yogic systems.Nāḍīs>Ida - lunar, feminine, cooling, associated with the left side and Shakti (energy).>Pingala - solar, masculine, heating, associated with the right side and Shiva (consciousness).>Sushumnā - the central channel, running up the spine; balance and union of the two.When Ida and Pingala are balanced, energy rises through Sushumnā, activating the chakras and awakening Kundalini.The Three Gunas (Cosmic Qualities)All creation is said to arise from a balance of:>Sattva - purity, clarity, balance.>Rajas - activity, passion, motion.>Tamas - inertia, darkness, stability.Each chakra has a dominant Guna, and spiritual growth involves transforming Tamas -> Rajas -> Sattva -> transcendence.The Trimurti (Divine Trinity)>Brahma - creation>Vishnu - preservation>Shiva - destruction/transformationThese cosmic functions mirror the flow of energy in the body :>creation (lower chakras)>maintenance (middle)>transcendence (upper)
>>41329076You misunderstood my point. You dumb fuck. >Yin and YangThere is only Yin/Yang. They don't exist separately. So there is no trinity.
>>41328670Yeah, that is weird af.
>>41331015And it's all from worm infection and those infected people comming up with religion/superstions ect to keep us running in circles and keeping the path to spiritual liberation behind gates and only certain people get through. I'll admit I don't know exactly when worm came onto the scene but our problems are tied to the Igigi/watchers/"serpents". Serpent comes from seraph which means "burning" so I believe it's really concerning the Kundalini with the word serpent but the worm can be and is involved with that but not always.The underworld is their "realm". That's why ghouls drag people there.So thousands of years of festering down there and meddling in surface affairs trying to jockey positions of power to spread their influence with the end of the world goal to rule completely in the open.
>>41323909According to nondual philosophies, neither the perceiver nor the perceived object exists; only perception exists. So, for example, any object or person, when you don't see it, is just a concept. But when you see it, you can only say that perception exists, which you interpret as an object or person.
>>41331482Here is a squid with fake reality improvement ability in Red Dwarf. Never heard of it until recently, and hardly watched the show, so no influence from it. Also forgot to mention that I dissected a squid on a field trip years back, ig like 2012 or 2013. I also made a tentacled species as a mini worldbuilding project. This was like a year or so bethe obsession hit me. IDK even know why I did it.
>>41323909My philosophy TA said the evil genius could also change your internal language so you don't know if your concepts connect
>>41332223Isn't that solipsistic? Or is that a misunderstanding or oversimplification of it?
>>41333412Yeah I've never heard of that either. I know there are fish that have compounds in them that can cause hallucinations. Picrel.
>>41333649The solipsist believes that everything is an illusion except himself, but even his idea of himself is an illusion. At the same time, it's not true that everything is an illusion because, although everything is an object of perception, "something" perceives. This something that is not manifest, which perceives, manifests itself through what is perceived. Therefore, the first stage is to separate the subject from the object and identify with the subject; in the second, one recognizes that everything is the subject. Therefore, if in the first stage one can fall into delusions of omnipotence, in the second stage one is pervaded by profound humility.
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>>41323909Good thread and good pic, thanks
>>41337965I started a thread called androgynous dragon slayers. You may like it. Honestly I'm looking for a courtesy bump. Kek.Bump.
