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It’s something else isn’t it? Kind of like the Freemasons?
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>>41332628
Dude, can you fucking think for one second? why would a serious addiction recovery support organization have ulterior motives which you think somehow are paranormal in nature? Fuck yourself man honestly.
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>>41332628
Idk, I've always thought there was something interesting going on with it. Several people in my family have gone to AA despite alcohol having little-to-no effect on their lives. They're all very rhapsodic about it and attached to it. Everything about it seems symbolic and repetitive.
Also, I don't think the post above me was typed by a real person.
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>>41332628
>It’s something else isn’t it? Kind of like the Freemasons?

It's a secret society of misfits. I have been 4000 times, if you need to make a team of people to commit crimes, this is the place.
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>>41332628
I really wouldn't be surprised if the Masons use it to recruit people at their low points
Easy targets, down on their luck, trained to look for "brotherhood" by this organization, wouldn't be hard to plant masons in there under the cover of alcoholism, etc. Give them connections and they'll feel indebted to you forever, easy blackmail material packaged in...
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>>41332628
Yes
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>>41332720
That’s exactly what I’ve always wondered. I mean it’s literally just people talking about their deepest darkest secrets. I mean, if you want to stop drinking then JUST STOP. But this whole “I’m powerless,” “The Big Book,” and just the whole environment seems quite cultish.
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>>41332651
>Dude, can you fucking think for one second?

Extremely ironic
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>>41332651
Someone must be relapsing
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>>41332651
Shill.
People are given all sorts of access to things via AA nepotism including important positions of power.
I have been to meetings and they have people crying and divulging their deepest secrets in those rooms that aren't even related to addiction or recovery. They insist you accept a higher power like the concept of a god but don't explain what that higher power is, they carry insignia and emblems and jewelry that signify they are in "the programme" so they may identify each other.
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AA is the only place I haver seen god answer prayers or produce miracles. I think it is a more pure and true version of christianity than any church out there has. The God of AA is more powerful, more active, more benevolent than the god of Church.
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>>41332628
I've been forced to go to these meetings and it's nothing interesting, it's full of normies who fear their own alcoholic tendencies and like to hear themselves ramble on and on and collect worthless little chips. The book has a somewhat interesting non-sectarian view of a higher power but it doesn't really go beyond an agnostic theism of "god exists even though we as humans can't exactly understand what it is" and you hear that kind of talk a lot at the meetings.
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>>41332930
>god exists even though we as humans can't exactly understand what it is

I think this is an appropriate statement for the meme which has both the top and bottom end of the IQ bellcurve agreeing, and the midwit in the middle seething.
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>>41332628
>literally founded by cia glownigger
Heh.
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AA meetings are actually a good way to score weed. Many recovering alcoholics swapped the bitch for the witch, and will be happy to help you do so as well. They can be your sponsor (dealer)
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>>41333420
Kek at 3 digits
Every AA faggot I've met irl is either a narcissist, a retard, a hypocrite or the whole trifecta.
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>>41332786
Yeah I agree
Some may call the view cynical but I don't buy any of that.
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>>41333395
also this
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>>41333395
lmao of course it is
Well OP, that verifies it
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>>41332628

I mean…it WAS founded by a Mason and has some pretty apparent nod towards it. Not sure if there’s more to it than that but it wouldn’t be surprising would it.
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>alcoholics
more like alcoholaters, am I right?
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Yes claim you are powerless over the mighty algol
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>>41333800
I never understood that part lol. Like, aren't you supposed to be OVERCOMING the addiction, fucking weird concept.
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>>41332628
Its mind control bullshit
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>>41336046
It's a spiritual program...often times spiritual things are like that....in order to win you have to surrender...do whatever you want, freedom right?...you'll one day realize youre just a slave to sin...practice obedience to God, be a servant and you can have true freedom..go figure. Those are ideas anyways...
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I've never been to AA, but I've gotten several people court-ordered AA in lieu of a prison sentence, and I'll tell you this, I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of sorcery or divine intervention going on in those meetings. They're extraordinarily effective at getting people sober.
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>>41332628
They're obviously body snatcher hives. There's a reason why people act so different after going to a few and it perfectly explains why I hear people crying inside whenever I walk past one.
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>>41332628
i mean, at least one of their founders was verifiably a freemason.
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Has anyone read the AA book lmao? It was literally written by an occult writer, the TWELVE traditions
Yea obviously it’s occult, just read the book

https://archive.org/details/alcoholicsanonym0000unse_c7o2

When they said 42 judges or whatever i just laughed obviously the 42 assessors of Ma’at

The authors were well know occultists

https://carm.org/alcoholics-anonymous/alcoholics-anonymous-and-the-occult/
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>>41332902
Read the AA book, the “higher power” is literally ANYTHING that is a high power to you
Like your own personal god

https://wagga.aagroup.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/AA-Big-Book-4th-edition.pdf
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>>41332628
The founder was inspired to create the program when he was doing massive amounts of LSD.
I don’t like the twelve steps. For anyone struggling with alcohol or drugs look into Rational Recovery. It’s simple and works if you are genuinely wanting to get better. It requires being radically honest with yourself though.
>>41332786
This is the gist of Rational Recovery. People like to get fucked up because it feels nice temporarily. You can choose not to drink and you can choose to be sober. It’s really that simple.
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>>41336164
No they aren't.
T. Both parents were AA drunks. I spent the first 18 years of my life picking gum off beneath tables in shitty community buildings while old drunks told stories about that time they went to jail for beating a black dude with a baseball bat, including details about how hard black skulls are to crack.
I have seen about 70% of them fall off the wagon hard and die. Especially the old timers. The success rate is literally not a single percentage better than you just deciding to not be a piece of shit and stopping. The problem, you see, is that alcoholics are shitty people who don't want to stop being shitty because being shitty has become comfy.
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Please do not comment in this thread unless you have read the actual AA book

It read like an old-timey 1920’s novel

Actual quote from book:
>Two of the members of Alcoholics Anonymous came to see me. They grinned, which I didn’t like so much, and then asked me if I thought myself alcoholic and if I were really licked this time. I had to concede both propositions.
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>>41336164
When I drank too much, a doctor recommended it waxed on a out finding the light so I can take it and give the light to others.

Didn't go, it seemed like some eyes wide shut shit. Idk if that's what he meant, but "light" is usually sadistic pleasure when talked about by those esoteric types.
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>>41332651
Ya a group where you get together learn how to worship god in an extremely specific way and share all your deepest secrets with higher members assigned to you while you are coming off physically addictive substances, absolutely nothing nefarious could be going on there.
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>>41332651
Because it provides easy access to people with dependent personalities who are at a low point and thus easily manipulated.
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>>41332628
Alcoholism is literally a demon that attaches to your soul. God will rip it out if he chooses. First find Christ in your heart.
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Up next you guys are gonna start posting about fucking marvel s.h.i.e.l.d or something



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