If God/gods/the demiurge wants worship, then why doesn't he show his power to people more often?
It's not the worship itselfIt's the loosh they get (suffering, debasement, misery, etc)
>>41350179and how does this process of extracting spiritual energy work? how does suffering release it in any way? express the mechanics of this theory
>>41350149The demiurge doesn't want anything. We're trapped in a crude mockery of the pleroma and his archons he made to keep it running feed on our loosh. Having an immortal soul means until we can escape and return to the fullness, we're stuck in his torture sandbox, repeatedly living out mortal lives
>>41350189yeah but why keep this going if it serves no purpose? this demiurge must want something from us!
>>41350192Experience. He wants to level up, and we look like just enough xp to do so.
>>41350221what is this experience? how is it collected?
>>41350222The concept of "loosh" is a good way to explain it. The negative connotations of "harvesting" it ignore the fact that there is positive "loosh" as well. We are the players, the subjects, the observers and the testers. We in this bitch, so to say.
>>41350226yes, but what are the metaphysics of this extraction? how does it happen? how does suffering or worship release it? what does suffering do that affects us metaphysically and thus releases this energy?
>>41350230Think vampires. We as humans produce and consume this "loosh" in our interactions with the material reality. Joy and suffering are two sides of the same coin. They are the propellant that drives "us" forward. There is a natural "flow" to this process of "moving" loosh. It can be "stretched", but never broken. If you know what I mean.
>>41350235yes yes, energy travels around, but how does suffering or joy affect our metaphysical bodies in such a way that we release these energies?
>>41350241Good question. Maybe humanity should be focused on answering these inquiries rather than raping and murdering millions.
>>41350247so you haven't got an answer! thank you for being honest
>>41350149He doesn't want worship; he can also be Satan and mock himself.I heard he's interested in learning about himself, and that's why he needs his creation to know his destiny.
>>41350250I'm in the classroom with you, friend. As for the "how" this loosh system works, that is where our sciences come into play. We have the tools to look into the code of cause and effect within ourselves. We may not "comprehend" exactly how it works. But we can observe to and document the process and learn from them.
>>41350149or how come Christ is planning to return but only after millions of Christians are killed and most of the world is under mind control. Either Revelation has been tampered or its just BS altogether
>>41350281Yes guys Jesus will come back.. after Great Tribulation. And the rapture too.. how does anyone fall for that
>>41350149Consensus won't allow outright supernatural manifestations
>>41350290most christians don't even believe in the rapture
>>41350292who is consensus?
The demiurge is a reflection of collective human consciousness. It is the duty of the worshipful to sanctify the demiurge to be fit for the pleroma.(This is not done by killing people and otherwise limiting their potential.)
>>41350312To expound slightly, when the demiurge divested a portion of himself in his attempt to create Adamic life, a sort of 2-way channel of influence was created between him and humanity.
There are people today who think they own or control the demiurge, very (materially) powerful people whose dynasty has outlived millennia.We're lucky enough to be alive to see them getting a wake-up call.
I pray for the loosh people daily. It is not a healthy or correct protective, but I understand why it resembles truth.
>>41350359*perspective
This is our example for radical redemption...
>>41350377And this is the price we must be willing to pay.
>>41350377>>41350382fuck off
>>41350409The shomrim of 4chan sense a threat. Your desire for control will be your undoing.
>>41350413>says the semite control abuse psyop cultlol. lmao even
>>41350421I'll take forgiveness (and there is so much more to Jesus' ministry than simply that) over "use up all the sin in the world to bring forth a messiah" or "sin really hard so that others have opportunities to be heroic" or whatever other window-breaking justification you have for it, any day!
>>41350434>forgive you of sins he created himself>that will be your enslaved soul plus tippeak jewish
>>41350309Consensus opinion. You are consensus.
>>41350463I can tell these are coming from a pre-approved list of responses, but I'll bite.God never made me sin. I've done it all on my own, and repentance is the only path to freedom from sinful cycles. One is not enslaved by another simply because their wills align.
>>41350475>I've done it all on my ownHe literally places the sin of adam and eve on you without any action from you lol>repentance groveling to the person who gave you the problem to save you from the problem lol>One is not enslaved The exact wording of having to be rabbi yeshua's slave is in your bible lol
>>41350480The demiurge was created imperfect. That original sin was divested from him at Adam's creation. The fruit merely represented knowledge of the situation. There is no "groveling". It's a genuine heartfelt desire for improvement of self and environment. If you are going to talk about "exact wording", please provide the instance you refer to. I don't necessarily believe in the inerrancy of the Bible, if I'm completely honest.
>>41350497>doesn't believe in abrahamic cult>defends it anyway>doesn't even know the bibleyou hylics are unbelievable
>>41350547Ah yes, my behavior is so much more "hylic" than your aggressive concern trolling. Have you ever attempted synthesis outside of a Hegelian dialectic prepared by your crew?
>>41350255his own destiny *
>>41350255>>41350572I like you. Thank you for helping to build the kingdom.
>>41350558you don't belong here lmao>>>/reddit/
>>41350586I accept your concession.Thanks for helping me keep the thread bumped and giving me an opportunity to refine my beliefs.
>>41350597>reddit replylol you glow dude
>>41350606Thank you, but I've got a long way to go with my skincare routine.
>>41350617Didn't ask tranny
>>41350622I'm bored now. This was a lot of fun though.
>>41350629Nah you're obsessed with me and it shows. You npcs can't help yoruself
>>41350292PffftThen there are no gods
>>41350586They are welcome here, actually
>>41350149>>41350189That doesn't make any sense because if the 'pleroma' exists, they would have the power to stop this immediately and the fact they don't is a sin.It's not that we want to be separated from God. It seems to me they want to be separated from us because humans are disgusting.But here's the thing:We didn't create thisWe don't allow it to existSo the only ones truly to blame and the ones doomed to inherit all of that karma would be them, not humanity. And no amount of mental gymnastics or pandering will make up for it.It really is simple.I didn't create this worthless shit.I didn't make this retarded fucking world and I didn't create these worthless faggot angels either.And I wouldn't let them exist either.So all of this fear of 'fire and brimstone even though it's not my fault and it never will be no matter what the rules of your fag religion are.The only thing that needs to happen is these assholes are destroyed so I can just live my life in peace and quiet. That's all I ask!This is why karma cannot exist because then the gods would basically be indebted to humanity. And sin being a thing that's used to test you to see if you're worthy of entering heaven? Even though you should have been born there to begin with. Not here. And the entire thing is a false pretense to damn your soul? If that is what God is going by then that makes them a liar. And it also means they are actually giving leeway and making room for an extremely intelligent predatory cosmic child rapist to fuck with humanity. So fuck off, kikes. I'm not going to hell. It's not possible. Those are the rules. Fair and square.If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit or some shit.
>>41350980>if the 'pleroma' exists, they would have the power to stop this immediatelybeing a bunch of concepts in a bunch of divine goop doesn't give you the power to act outside that goopyou may let's say influence others to do your bidding, but direct action is not a viable optionTL;DR your mistake is thinking 'God' is omnipotent
>>41351011Ok. Then I propose a treaty for the unconditional surrender of TPTB and the absolution of mankind.The end. And anyone saying anything different is a lying cocksucker.
>>41350149We're actually currently in the little season of satan(demiurge/yahweh) according to revelation eschatology(tribulation and the literal millenial reign already occurred), so he can't really do much more than deceive people right now. Poor guy just wants to have some fun and the damn gnostics are keepin him down
>loosh farmIn 10,000 bc there was no farmingThus there cannot be an eternal loosh farmThus the metaphor is wrong
>>41350980except it does and they do and did>who or what was and is Jesus or the Christ and the principle? surely it is not one of the 3 Logoi of the Creator incarnated, /here/ ? and surely there was no idea behind the whole ordeal, so much so NOT, that two thousand years after the incident, people still talk about it on some deepsea crab trading forum.what a stupid ignoble, unenlighened, uninspired drivel you fabricated. i would insult you as jew or yid, but even they know this, even if they dont want to admit it. you ought to lurk 2 more years before embarassing yourself that bigly, again.
