You live in the best possible material universe. Phanes, the first-born God (the first manifestation of the One), emerged from the cosmic egg to create order out of chaos. He did not manifest the world ex nihilo (from nothing); he worked with prima materia (chaos) and ordered it.The radical dualism of the Gnostics is baseless, as matter itself is neither good nor evil. It is merely the necessary condition for the manifestation of multiplicity from the One.So, from where does the imperfection of matter and "evil" arise? The answer lies in the sheer otherness of matter relative to the nature of the One. To manifest multiplicity, prima materia must contain the principles of difference, plurality, and division. This inherent nature is the seed of imperfection, suffering, and estrangement from the One. The very act of creation—the unfolding of the One into multiplicity—implies a descent into progressively less perfect states, culminating in our world. Yet, each level in this hierarchy of being is the best possible.The material world is the spiritual world, merely in its most imperfect state.
>>41350521>Gnosticism is utter nonsenseIf you interpret it literally and don't understand that the Demiurge is yourself then yeah it probably does seem that way.
>>41350521>He did not manifest the world ex nihilo (from nothing); he worked with prima materia (chaos) and ordered it.True.>from where does the imperfection of matter and "evil" arise? Brahma just made mistakes. While creating the world he accidently made demons (Asuras). Happens. The idea of a perfect creator is naive, no deity is perfect.
>>41350570Let's all love the demiurge!
>2024 - the cube must be destroyed>2025 - the cube is being destroyed>2026 - the cube is now destroyed>2027 - cube? wtf is a cube?
>>41350649What’s more likely:People used to fear a giant lion-headed snake.OrIt’s a metaphor.
>>41350667He's just like me fr
>>41350521There's a lot of paradigms that consider themselves gnostic. The most common duality centered form today is Sethian gnosticism, but nearly every gnostic I know rejects that model. Honestly, most gnostics I know would probably consider this a very valid post from a neo-platonic perspective.Neo-platonism and gnostic Christianity share a lot of DNA.
>41350712What's more likely:This anon hangs out with "gnostics" all day and even befriends large numbers of them despite them not really existing anymore.OrIt's a smelly jew rat trying to muddy the waters around Gnosticism
>>41350718>Everything is Jews
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>>41350521>You live in the best possible material universeProof?
>>41350971no cittation required, u just like kno bro
>>41350521The issue with Gnosticism is that evil and imperfection cannot create anything. It can only pervert, copy, or destroy what is already good and exists. It is illogical to say that an imperfect Demiurge created the world.
>>41350521Why is your assertion that antimatter is greater than matter and order is greater than chaos assumed correct? Maybe the “chaos” was already perfect and beautiful.
Wrong. The material world (mother) is devoid of auto onthological property, as it is a reflection from the pattern world (father). The rest should follow, it is basic. There is no onthological reality the evil, females or demons, as they are mere projections, distorted. The material world is a inversion of the real world.
>>41350667Donkey-headedIt is both a metaphor and a real entity, demonic btw.
>>41350521>The radical dualism of the GnosticsReading comprehension fail.
>>41351225>The issue with Gnosticism is that evil and imperfection cannot create anything. Doesn't that just come from Tolkien?Does not really hold up in reality imo
Non-ironically, I assume that after death the archons eat the human soul, that is, there is not even samsara
>>41350521So I've been studying the millenial reign from Revelation having already occurred in our recent past(it's where all the tartaria architecture speculation is from), and I came to a rather stunning conclusion: The religion that iesso(pretty sure that's what they called jesus during this time) and the saints taught around the world was nothing like modern day christianity(hint: the satan that was locked in the pit for 1000 years during this time was yahweh): I believe they taught a form of gnosticism. And I believe they taught it in a way that merged spiritual principles of frequency and light with materiality. So it's almost like there's a form of gnosticism which isn't about escaping the material form, but elevating it closer to god.
>>41351429If I remember correctly, they eat the spirit not the soul, as the soul is indestructible.
>>41350769#notall
>>41351225 Precisely. The entity whom the Gnostics call the "Demiurge" cannot, by its very nature, be other-than-good, for it is a manifestation of the One, as is all divinity that emanates therefrom.>>41351272 Perfection (teleiosis) is inherently associated with Order, Form, Unity, and the Good. Absolute perfection is an attribute of the One, which is the source of all perfection. Chaos, by contrast, is the principle of otherness and resistance to the organizing force of Phanes or the Demiurge. Matter is the legitimate heir to these properties. Whether Chaos is ordered or not is irrelevant to its inherent nature.
>>41351446>So it's almost like there's a form of gnosticism which isn't about escaping the material form, but elevating it closer to god.You are very close to the truth. In reality, such a form of "Gnosticism" does not exist, for what you are describing is the Orphic-Platonic path, not a path of escape from the so-called material prison.The goal lies not in fleeing from matter, but in its catharsis, purification, transformation, and elevation back to its primordial divinity. This is what is known as salvation through assimilation to the divine (homoiosis theo).
