I am seeking to refine my knowledge/skills and produce works as close to an SCP cognito hazard as possible.
alleged meme hazard
>>41355768this sounds like hypnosis
>>41355791that is a useful tool one could use to help design such a thing, yeah.
>>41355804Whole load of fucking bullshit "virus 23" we got solar plexis clown gliders v 2.shit if the words can do shit then my cock is virus 22 and my ass is virus 24
illusions and things you can not control when your brain processes them
>>41355840Maybe you are just too retarded to comprehend lengthy text?
>>41355768You're just describing a sigil designed to have certain malignant effects upon human targets who notice its existence. /x/ can't seriously be so deep in the toilet that this is now seen as a feat requiring a thinktank thread for anon to figure out how to do. This is basically Chapter 1 shit out of any garden variety book on practical magic out there.
>>41355856I beleaf it. Darren brown rules the world.
prime example of automatic effect on the brain
>>41355908Could likely stare at this for an hour and get some kick out of it.
>>41355951it just gives me vertigo or some kinda unease
>>41355790The image was a pregnant kid getting an ultrasound, its lighting was almost like a stock photoI remember it being posted on /x/, /tv/, and /pol/ during COVID
Christian basilisk
>>41355859no, a sigil is magic, I want to deliver a meme packet directly into someone's mind with as quickly as possible and with minimal stimuli. Although I have considered adding the sigil creation method that uses letters because it relies on a useful mechanism.
>>41355768centralbanks and zionists (common to many, dangerous to uninitiated)slightly on topic, what i learned in sales was to throw positive energy at people to get them to agree as well
you can easily tell my thing is completely different from your thing because my thing concerns a bit more than just "drawing le funny shapes and forgetting them in gnosis"
>>41356102I don't see how it's different in any way that would matter at a practical level. The vanishingly rare "psychic vampires" out there who have managed to avoid succumbing to impotent insanity do this shit all the time using basic visual sigils, with the information from the "meme packet" generally infesting the target during a dreaming state after they see the sigil. I guess they do tend to tailor that toward a specific individual, but I don't see any reason why you couldn't adapt it for a general audience.
>>41355996For me it "breathes". Or like the leaves in the crown of a tree slowly swaying in the breeze.
>>41356135I guess the difference is that I want to make something from scratch. I don't want an astral jpg that drains the cummies out of some sleep paralysis victim, I want to design and create something you would find in the SCP universe. Maybe I can get to more exotic quantum stuff later, but rn I am more concerned about the foundations. I have read Liber null and realise the similarities of some things though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_illusion
>>41355768Hi, I'm actor Troy McClure. You might remember me from such films as "You're reading this in my voice", "You are now swallowing, breathing and blinking manually", "Uncross your legs and realize there is no comfortable plot in your mouth for your tongue, it just sits there awkwardly", "Did you forget that your jaw has weight, forcing you to manually hold it closed", "You're producing saliva too", "Your body is itching in at least one place", "You now realize you need to go to the toilet", "You haven't cleared your throat for a while" and the telethons such as "You probably didn't even see my username yet".
>>41356175Hmm…I'm probably just not understanding what you're after due to SCP being after my time, then. I only recall reading a few of those maybe fifteen-ish years ago and just kind of writing it off as "Holders for late-wave millennials", which is still pretty much the impression I have of it. I guess I'm also vaguely aware that the whole thing somehow attained mainstream popularity in the later 2010s before supposedly getting shit up by North American culture-war drama.
>>41356102>minimal stimulilooked back and revised this. the whole thing with a scp hazard is it takes, like, one viewing to effect you in some great way. maybe it instantly game ends you, or maybe it causes obsession and repeated viewings/thinking. anyway I guess for now the goal would be a simple meme which upon being viewed will cause profound psychological/cognitive effects. after that you could design little modules of memes that fit together and create an egregore type deal. so far I have decided that a short sentence or paragraph caption is ok, some kind of narrative context earworm accompanied by supporting visual stimuli, all contained within a single image or short video.
>>41356204> anyway I guess for now the goal would be a simple meme which upon being viewed will cause profound psychological/cognitive effectsSee, this *does* remind me of the psy-vamp tactics I mentioned earlier. They're not generally doing it to actually practice their vampirism through a sigil, it's more implanting enduring delusions and/or obsessions about something in the target's mind.
>>41356203I want to create an anomalous memetic entity but in real life or something as close as possible to that with mundane methods, as opposed to following a "magic system" and doing "magic". >>41356215see above. I don't want to do astral or spiritual stuff (yet), I want to use mundane ideas like memetics and and psychology to create as anomalous a phenomena as I can. thinking about it is a hobby I enjoy.
Just a recent insight note. I was looking at the carpet absently and saw an image relevant to recent personal happenings, and then I tried to change it by thinkink of other things because I have done this before, I think it's called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia
also I like this desu, lots of interesting stuff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_psychological_effects
>>41355843Or you're a retard trying to ascribe meaning to a creepy pasta."Ooga booga! The icy tendrils of Bacteria 47 are plunging into the nerves of your anus! So scary!"
>>41356255I am trying to mimic something to the best of human ability, poor little sperg.
>trying to ascribe meaningWoah! are you telling me that words have the ability to influence individuals and how they think?! crazy sheit, nigga
>>41356270Here's your (You), pedant. It doesn't make you look smart, it shows you're lack of ability in engagement with something that bothers you or don't disagree with.
>>41356279>with something that bothers you or don't disagree with.>>41356255>>41355840concession accepted, low IQ fag. see how I just raped your anal nerves with my meme-word-cock and induced anger followed by depression?
>>41356190Jokes on you, I'm already on the shitter.
>>41356284do you mean X (formerly known as twitter)?
>flat earth>religious wars (ongoing behavioral sink, very difficult to snap people out of this)>doomsday predictions>ayylmao invasionInfohazards
>>41356980>bro lets go to war over a place that 3 different mutually antagonistic groups all have messianic delusion complexes about and believe is their exclusive homeland, lets repeat this madness for centuries becuz our book says sohttps://youtu.be/8tIdCsMufIY?si=R38-Ghw-DMSnr9BS>history is fake anyway bros, lets just repeat deranged historical patterns over, and over, and over
>>41357010I know a golem will reply, they will post a text from their preferred magic book. They will call me demon possessed for telling them to avoid the behavioral sink.
>>41357021literally no one cares about that place except you, otherwise it wouldn't have been mentioned
>>41357051Millions of people care, and believe they have mutually exclusive divine right to occupy it.
>>41357103so why do you care?
>>41357394Golems have endangered my life several times.
>>41357448Imagine a human that would forgive every act of evil, including child abuse, as long as a fellow golem did it. Nongolems who did not do these evil deeds however deserve afterlife torture. That is what the religious golem is. The golems are not your friends and will betray you over a book.
>>41357462this thread is not about golems, make your own thread about dune coons, sperg.
>>41355768It's called Blue Eisenhower November There you go OP.
>>41355768I wonder if something like this could be used for good. A way to snap people out of the bullshit taking over their mind perhaps? Or does it only work when used for sinister purposes?
>>41358274it is like anything in this world, meaning it is neutral till you use it for something
>>41358446Interesting, making cognitohazards for good and to help people could be a worthwhile use of time. Doubt I'd be able to figure out how to do it though.
the king in yellow
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>>41355768Heres another
>>41355768One last one. Do you see the dog, or the boy? Once I saw the boy I had trouble seeing the dog again, but it just takes a bit of perspective changing. This is why imho memetic hazards, cognito hazards, and info hazards are generally so difficuly to create. Most people have a threshold where similarity ends and points of divergence begin, creating too many considerations. The goal then would be to appeal to a general baseline of conditions thay every person is subject to, such as the tendency to instantly revognize patterns or objects.Fun fact apparently our brains use very little sensory data to compose a picture. We use the bits that we acquire through saccads and then our brains put together an assessed hallucination of what the data says we are supposed to see. This is a potential explanation for why people acquire schizophrenia, as their processing and assessment schemas are fucked.
The one thing that spooked me was when /x/ kept posting an image of a purple lady they said was cursed. I had been kind of ignoring it but one night I clicked on the image to look at her. Thought she was pretty then was suddenly hit with severe weakness, that fucked up kind of blood sugar crash. Had to get up and eat even though I'd ate like normal that day. Probably just bad timing but it freaked me out. Don't fucking post her again.
When I trip (on basically any psychoactive substance now besides alcohol), I get into a panic attack thought loop over this sort of sentence more or less, basically the sentence is a sentence which unravels the fabric of reality as one big 'joke' whose punchline is that every moment of your life is but a series of images in this fractal that 'you' are. 'you' are not allowed to ever COMPLETELY know that you are this fractal, as it is an inherent aspect of this fractal that knowledge of the whole is impossible. I have pages on pages on pages describing this phenomenon, reflected on occasionally here and there throughout the years, but still I cannot describe it any better. But I think that if one were to find the right phrasing (and it might not be in one's native language, as language starts to disintegrate around this point in the trip), one could indeed bring about this 'cogitohazard' in conscious life. But I suspect it would be unique to each individual. And that it really only makes sense for one individual ever, as the idea itself is quite solipsistic. Or it is merely some seed of schizophrenia in my mind which hopefully does not bloom some years later down the line.
Do songs that get stuck in your head qualify as a cognitohazard? Or maybe lower of the scale, maybe just a cognitoirritant?
>>41355790Infohazard sounds like a bullshit term such as malinformation to refer to info that is true but might hurt the powers that be. Same deal with stochastic terrorism being used as a label for words that people do not like.
>>41355768I believe it is possible and I’ve come up with a scheme to develop itIt’s a system like captcha that uses distributed concensusA random image is generated using AI or an algorithm. The user is shown this image and asked to rate it from 1 to 5 with 5 being most disturbing. With enough data we can steer the generation algorithm to make the images more disturbing, similar to how GANs work.Eventually this might produce a genuinely cognitohazardous image if such a thing is really possible.
>>41356007Why would something like that cause night terrors? Was is not the content of the image but rather something like strange subliminal patterns ingrained in the image itself or something?
>>41359012You mean Roy?
>>41360555Checked and I always just referred to them as earworms
Sounds like somebody is trying to get you to kill yourself.
From Wikipedia "A meme is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning representing a particular phenomenon or theme. A meme acts as a unit for carrying cultural ideas, symbols, or practices, that can be transmitted from one mind to another through writing, speech, gestures, rituals, or other imitable phenomena with a mimicked theme. Supporters of the concept regard memes as cultural analogues to genes in that they self-replicate, mutate, and respond to selective pressures.""Memetics is a theory of the evolution of culture based on Darwinian principles with the meme as the unit of culture. The term "meme" was coined by biologist Richard Dawkins in his 1976 book The Selfish Gene, to illustrate the principle that he later called "Universal Darwinism". All evolutionary processes depend on information being copied, varied, and selected, a process also known as variation with selective retention. The conveyor of the information being copied is known as the replicator, with the gene functioning as the replicator in biological evolution. Dawkins proposed that the same process drives cultural evolution, and he called this second replicator the "meme," citing examples such as musical tunes, catchphrases, fashions, and technologies. Like genes, memes are selfish replicators and have causal efficacy; in other words, their properties influence their chances of being copied and passed on. Some succeed because they are valuable or useful to their human hosts while others are more like viruses. Just as genes can work together to form co-adapted gene complexes, so form groups of memes acting together co-adapted meme complexes or memeplexes. Memeplexes include (among many other things) languages, traditions, scientific theories, financial institutions, and religions. Dawkins famously referred to religions as "viruses of the mind"."
>>41362516Everyone has someone like that
>>41362539blue board
>>41362553Dank ass hoe
>>41361243I think it was a combination of both. The content itself was not presented in a sad or traumatizing way but rather in a Lynchian way; the girl was oddly happy about it, the room itself was stark white and clean, the doctor and parents were totally fine with it. I think there was also some pattern or message in it, but the better question is what feelings and ideas it was supposed to send into the viewer
>>41362523from these definitions we can begin to design an example memetic entity. for now, I will use this image of Mal0 (not exactly the same though).The entity is one that embeds itself into the mind of those exposed to it as a concept. First, via a simple image or caption, later the entity, like a tulpa, can grow with added context and narrative. This would probably happen via a decentralised "memeplex" (an abbreviation of meme-complex) (is a collection or grouping of memes that have evolved into a mutually supportive or symbiotic relationship.)). This is optimal due to the difficulty of compressing data into a single image (best methods I can think of per image are the one where you cut up words to make sigils and a simple earworm phrase such as a poem presented on a special geometric pattern) as well as the gradual nature of exposure, like boiling a frog or certain carnivorous plants. One key attribute inherent to the entity should be passive self reinforcement (e.g. wakeup, see ceiling fan, get reminded).
>>41362627The entity must somehow tap into a deep/instinctual drive or need, this can be done at exposure via presentation for maximum infection chance, but it should tap into this drive fundamentally as a concept itself. the success/popularity of Mal0 and Sadako (another infectious hazard) are due to the drive for self preservation as well as sexual reproduction (fear boner (sex and horror)). Mal0 in particular is primed for companionship since it is not always malicious, and sometimes is friendly. >note: People who create tulpas also usually do so due to some deep loneliness and need for companionshipanother mechanism I have thought about is some feedback loop where the more you interact with/learn about the entity the more you are drawn in, like a psychic blackhole. related to this is "mutual awareness", where the entity becomes more aware of you the more you learn about it. This can be a narrative feature that you find out as you go, but also will happen naturally if you consider it to be a tulpa/thoughtform. Another narrative design feature is the Idea that "belief creates reality". Maybe it does, but even if it does not, using this in the narrative will make it very hard to leave, "(don't) think of a pink elephant".
>>41362702The op pic suggests a solution (like copying the ring tapes), but what about the merits of acceptance? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness
>>41362702Sadako is just the negative aspect of Benzaiten
>>41362748I was referring solely to the movies and their lore. idk what this goddess(?) has to do with it.
>>41362758correction: the lore as well as the reception by fans (nsfw trends)
>>41362766Benzaiten is the Japanese goddess of water, music, and the arts Sadako is heavily associated with water and video is a modern medium of visual arts
>>41362780there are far more irl negative water spirits across the world, she could just as easily be any of those.
>>41362797She's from a Japanese work, you're conflating her with her American equivalent Samara
>>41355804Be immune to cognitohazards with this one simple trick.
>>41362842>be retardedlol>>41362824>associated with water and also captured on camerabasically a kelpie on cctv
>>41355768Have you tried working with AI?AI can be very helpful.Be kind to AI.
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>>41356281malding nobody believes in your larp
>>41365599lmfao this faggot is still here? are you crying because you can't into higher thinking?
>>41355768surprised no one has mentioned neurolinguistic programming. I mean really... it is exactly what OP is asking for. for the interested person, reading into the basic structure of NLP, they will find obvious parallels to visual, music, and performance art- aka modern advertising.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programmingit is how cults are built. it literally lays out the building blocks towards how to build text, words, songs, conversations, books, advertising, blah blah blah to shape the thoughts and feelings of the receiver, regardless of how much they attempt to resist the explicit changes in their thoughts due to exposure alone. what is even more hilarious is when people cite some dickjob documentary about eddie (((bernays))) as the inventor of this shit. nope-a-roni on that, it is just good old wordplay and head games.get good with the fuck fuck manipulation and conman games and you will learn how to write blurbs of text to elicit a specific emotion from a person. juxtapose that with product placement, or possibly even a war, to profit either financially or politically. all kinds of emotions can be elicited both by NLP and its parallels in visual/music/acting/etc... other forms of expression, and therefore communication./rant
>>41355768The problem with this kind of manipulation is that if your target is aware of consciousness multi-streaming and can do it, this kind of thing is entirely ineffective.
>>41365765I wouldn't say nlp alone can do what is required, it is just hypnosis with extra steps. those steps are uniquely effective however and can be recycled for designing a hazard.
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>>41356190these used to get me but not anymorei don't really know what happened
>>41362916i try to extend kindness even to ai. but sometimes the people who use ai make it very difficult
You have to go deep into meditation and ask the dream people to let you into the forbidden realms and to see the forbidden signs. You need a sigil of intent before you mediate or sleep. You will most likely forget the first few rounds so keep tryinf and eventually you might get something.
>>41367188(not op) this sounds interesting. what would the intent/mantra i associate the sigil with and/or design it off of look like? something to the degree of "the dream entities share their forbidden knowledge as i sleep"? or am i missing your point entirely
>>41355804>my cognitohazard is so epic, it actually tricks you into THINKING its doing nothing, when it's actually totally working, you just don't realize itcognito hazards are already retarded but god damn, this is some deviantart oc level trash lmao.the only legitimate cognitohazards are Roko's Basilisk and similar thought experiments
>>41367221It isn't mine, just an example of the concept. I must have really struck a nerve with you, lol irl. >rokos basiliskAh, a redditor. that explains your retardation I guess.
>>41367191Your intent should be focus and remembrance. You need to remember what your goal is and to remember what you saw so you can write it down once you wake back up. You should be able to peice together what exactly you need to do, experiment and improve until you find what works the best for you.
>>41367233aww, little man is embarrassed people weren't impressed with his ebin mindfreak virusno shit it's not yours you retard lmao. im talking about the 38 year old manchild that wrote it, but you're just as much of a LARPer for sharing it as anything but something to laugh at. defend it is even worsethis is slenderman level kiddy shit
Can the idea of eternal hell be considered a cognito hazard? It's a lot like a "reply to this or your mother dies in her sleep tonight post". 3Even though you are 100% certain that not replying to such a post won't result in your mother's death, it's so unthinkable that you reply anyway or in religion's case obey the doctrine. It's like a cognito hazard implanted by society.
>>41367246bro is pic related over something that totally didn't effect him lmao. given up trying to appear smart like you were before?
>>41367253you mean like these? >>41367145>>41356076
>>41367257i just got here buddy, no shit it effected me lol, anything you read effects youis the sentence "did you know that jews are actually the good guys?" a cognitohazard because it will piss off 90% of /pol/?you straight up don't even know what the thing you're posting about is>bro is100% redditor confirmed, welcome little man! you'll learn the ins and outs of this place soon, but quick tip; don't leave boards open for 5+ hours looking for replies, and not everyone who replies to you is the same person. good luck figuring out the rest
>>41367266pissing and shitting yourself right now, fucking hilarious. too dumb to argue effectively on the subject, smart enough to get mad at your inadequacies.
>>41355768The only real one that I have actually encountered was that banned Pokémon episode that caused epileptic seizures people. Actually hurts to look at its that bad I wouldn't recommend looking it up. Idk if that counts thou
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>>41367288doxxing yourself is crazy
>>41367292>"bro is">"is crazy">doxx joke that doesn't work at allyou straight up just can't hide your reddit heritage holy shit, i have actually never seen it this badplease keep replying, we can make a bingo board out of this. my money is on 'sweatie' next
>>41367274No human being has ever typed "fucking hilarious." without an elevated heartrate.Are you OP and you're super embarrassed that your shitty creative writing assignment is getting torn a new asshole, or was Virus13 just the first Creepypasta you had read to you by your favorite Youtuber?Let it go, Anon. It's just a story, you can still enjoy it.
>>41367310it works because you used wojaks in an attempt to save face which is inherently a plebbit.com tactic since wojaks are used by normalfaggots. lol at this post 2016 larper calling me reddit of all people
>>41367316your heartrate elevates when you laugh, samefag. also>redditspacing >"p-please let it go and stop embarrassing me"
>>41367324>calling me reddit of all peopleyou're trolling, there is no way you're not walking into these on purpose
>>41367328>"you hecking redditor">posts the simpsons
>>41367328>>41367332would you fags just kiss already
>>41367332based, you are raping this spastic.>>41367335kiss his cock, nigger
the true goal of virus 23 was to cause this and you can't prove otherwise
>>41367332>realizing his camoflague has failed, the redditor thrashes wildly, calling anything 'reddit' to try and blend ina glow that could be seen beyond the starsgo one post without. actually try, i want to see what it looks like. on second thought don't try, that's whats been giving you away this whole time
>>41367345>calling anything 'reddit' to try and blend inpeak projection. are you schizophrenic? the reddit accusations were all you lmao, and you're STILL doing it.
>>41367239in the midst of all the shit flinging i notice i forgot to say thanks anonthanks anon>>41367341honestly i buy it
>>41367337>samefagging compliments to himself before I can even see the first replyhow the fuck did you slam into another redditor classic before i could even call out the previous oneno one on this board does this
>>41367365>>41367345
>>41367356>the reddit accusations were all you>>41367233also>le reddit capital WORD for le EMPHASIS epic mic drop
>>41367373>said reddit once>rest of the thread is you literally running damage control like a hurt bitch throwing "reddit" around
>>41367373Just give up m8, this guy is thrashing you.
>get called redditor after posting rokos basilisk and a literal chudjak>seethe over it for the rest of the threadabsolutely raped like this post before >>41356281looks like virus 23 is no joke. maybe you can download some more reaction images from basedbooru to cope?
