>Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to doI don't think anyone fully understands the implications of a seemingly omnipotent immortal god saying *nothing* will be restrained from them (us)
Us becoming god-like in our worldly power and hubris will mean individuals or groups will be able to do horrible things to the lowliest of people.
>>41362733>horrible thingsWho says they're horrible, god?
>>41362739world government in general is horriblefor if God has a moral law, that is arguably all good, mankind unifying the world under something that isn't Godly can mean enslavement to something that isn't inherently good
>>41362752>world government in general is horribleSays who?
>>41362728Mankind is made in the image of God. Man a body, a soul and a spirit.The soul is capable to conceptualize and to form mental images and ideas, whereas the spirit is able to realize themThe spirit by itself is weak, for we only have a small fraction of it within our bodies, but when we are together and we are united, our imaginative inspirations are more likely to realize because the intensity of the spiritual power is multiplied 1 billion times.By confusing the language, God created a division between us where made us of different mindswe began to conceptualize and words and ideas differently, which created a conflict between us, rather than enabling us to become as powerful as GodThis was done because the imagination of man is continually evil, full of violence and perversion. The only thing we would acomplish by being united is to destroy ourselves and the world.We can see this happening through the creation of AI which will replace man eventually, because nowadays everybody speaks the same language, aka binary
>>41362765You keep using words like "evil" and "perverse" as if they mean anything more than YHWH's opinion.
>>41362801i specifically explain what is evil in that case.Man's imagination strives to commit violence and to violate their own nature. Once they are united, they will try to overcome death by destroying the things that make us human, aka our spirit, soul and body, thus creating the image of the beast, the aritificial human that is meant to surpass God.in the process we kill ourselvesduring the times of Noah, man created the beast image already, it was called the Nephilim back then.Nowadays its called aritifical intelligence.if Yahweh didnt cuck mankind, the times of Noah were going to happen all over again before he was able to establish his church
>>41362839There was nothing wrong with humanity during the times of Noah. Just like at Babel, yhwh chimped out and killed them because he can't stand looking at people who don't care about him.
>>41362859>There was nothing wrong with humanity during the times of Noahi assume i win if you are gonna ignore my entire argument
>>41362878Your entire argument is based in the assumption that yhwh is both good and the Supreme god.
>>41362886no, its based on the fact that mankind is fundamentally evil on the basis that we dont value the sanctity of our own nature and we seek to destroy ourselves God is not in the focus at all
Its really weird how Yahweh is a Creator god, then a Trickster god, then a Storm god, then a specific tribe god (and a very much God of War).And then by the times of Jesus he becomes some sort of God of Redemption, Peace and Healing.Why does he keep changing portfolio?
>>41362895>the fact that mankind is fundamentally evilNot a fact, just something the Bible says
>>41362903>God of Redemption>Revelation 2:27‘He shall rule them with a rod of iron; They shall be dashed to pieces like the potter’s vessels’— as I also have received from My Father;>Peace > Matthew 10:34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.>Healing>Revelation 14:11And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”try again buddy>>41362905> just something the Bible saysi exclusively used non-blblical examples such as the coming AI takeover
>>41362903>Its really weird how Yahweh is a Creator god, then a Trickster god, then a Storm god, then a specific tribe god (and a very much God of War).Wait until you find out what Jews actually believe.
>>41362929>non-blblical examples such as the coming AI takeoverYou didn't explain how that's factually evil.
>>41362728I think the message here is that perfect unity is either impossible (the world itself will divide us) or that we shouldn't strive for it to begin with because we lose out on our individuality for a project that is ultimately pointless and results in generations of slave labor.
>>41362937They're hoping that people will fall into the soul trap. Basically it's where niggers and kikes enslave gullible goyim until their soul reincarnates.
>>41362949All we're doing here is making parasites fat. Maybe people should think about it instead of being selfish monkeys.
>>41362945for you only God is evil and everything else is good. a nigger will come and rape your mother as he makes you watch, and you will murmur under your mouth " i hate Jesus so much"
>>41362956Balance is key. Egotism destroys all. Perfect unity destroys the self.
>>41362962No. It looks to me like an inverted order of normalnigger retardation and I don't want to be apart of it. And the spirits seems to be totally callous. They understand humans are gullible and have no clue what this shit is about and they're fully immersed in the dream to give a damn.Basically we're the cows that figured out this is a slaughter farm so some gay niggers that live in heaven can have orgies for thousands of years
>>41362957For you only god is good and everything else is evil? What’s your point? You can go in apologetics circles but all it does is confirm your own beliefs with dishonest truth statements.
>>41362728 O this is just making mountains out of mole hills, kiddos
>>41362962Mass rituals of bullshit. Generation after generation. Blood rituals while these people have orgies live lavish lifestyles. No wonder people have lost their minds. Then they go to the Jew doctor who tells them there is no God or devil(s) trust the science.
>>41362937Where can I read about it? What can you tell?
>>41362996Yeah and then they give you pills that make you retarded.Don't need anyone getting the secret out. They're all in on it.
>>41362988i already explained how AI takeover is detrimental to our human nature which makes it fundamentally evil, but you choose to go in loops while ignoring what i say, thus i state the things for what they areYou agenda is to shit on God no matter what argument i make for his case
>>41363002>The machine god>Mechanically perfect being>Rules>The black cube>4th dimensionBasically they rule the world they're from a different dimension they have spaceships everywhere and they use mind control to keep nigger cattle 'in the matrix' and brainwashed they're not human they are weird motherfucker vampires and they like raping little boys this has been the norm for 1000s of years humanity can't do shit rn and wouldn't even know where to begin.
>>41362728fuck babylonfuck persiafuck greecefuck romefuck the new world order
>>41363042The world is a stage. Orchestrated by the fae and their niggers.
>>41362765Ok Lesion, but I doubt any two English speakers (good or bad English) have the same thinking/conception of even the Nicene creed to be of one mind. Now confess!
>>41362903You forgot Peter Pan, Spiderman, and Pied'erman phases
>>41363066the tower of babel symbolizes a localized community that is concentrated in a single region and which works on one project. Such a community is formed over time when people of different creeds are forced to live together for a prolonged period of time till they reach a synthesis, since they sexually mix with each other. Thats why God wanted the israelites to genocide the people in the promised land, he didnt want them to mix with them because it would pollute the faith When people are of a single language, the mixing process happens much easier. When we are all connected through the internet, it happens even faster
>>41363009im not the one calling myself pastor, I have 0 allegiance with your christian god, neither for nor against. You are the one that refuses to see reality through any lense other than the narrow one you brainwashed yourself into. People want to do whats best for themselves, but animals like you keep getting in the way. If you guys desire a demon to fight so bad, I will gladly be that demon and seek your destruction.
>>41362728I wonder how this tower of Babel thing was means to unify all language? My thought is maybe it telepathically linked all humans with its range. Essentially operating as a giant antenna or amplifier for some spiritual/magical tool placed in the center somewhere.But this would essentially turn everyone into one giant hive mind. Individual consciousness would be removed. This would appear to me as some sort of highly invasive violation of the soul. A spiritual rape of sorts. I think maybe it's a really very good thing it never got turned on.
>>41363117>People want to do whats best for themselvesthats like me watching a child put his hand on a burning stove and just allowing it to happen.of course i will do everything in my power to stop the child from doing it, by yelling at him or grabbing him.in the context, when i see people who think that they are working in their self interest, but in reality they are destroying themselves, i would react and try to point them in the right way, for it is my duty to do so as someone who is more spiritually mature.a loving parents disciplines his child, an unfeeling and uncaring parents leaves the child to its own devices till it destroys itself.
>>41362728>literally interpreting a fablethe point of the story is that all of humanity gets together and makes a big tower to try to climb up to heaven, but it falls over because people aren't god. that's it, you get the same moral from icarus essentially
>>41363190Christniggers just pick and choose what scripture is literal and what is allegorical. Its all literal.
>>41363165It didnt link all language. Humans already only spoke one language before yhwh scattered them and confounded their speech
>>41363173you arent anyones father, you arent any ones god. you worship lies. your faith only exist to extoll yourself, because it is false.
>>41363200mason
>>41363298well, what you think of my faith is irrelivant really, i simply explain the basic mechanisms of it
>>41364018>i simply explain the basic mechanisms of itNo one asked you to.
>>41362728I think this story is very interesting. "God" wants people to be united, but "He" wants union in His own terms. In this scenario people united in order to challenge "Heaven" and God did not like that at all. God took that personal. So God came down from His dwelling place and did what God does best, He complicates our lives and makes so that nobody understand each other anymore. This episode is very telling because there is a passage in the bible which claims that God is not the author of confusion, that confusion doesn't come from God.>>"For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace" Corinthians 14:33.However, in this Tower of Babel episode God clearly is the author of confusion. The text backs me up here because it says that this place became Babel because it was there that God CONFUSED the language of the whole world and made impossible for them to continue their work of building the tower which would reach Heaven. We were going to reach Heaven, but God did not allowed. The text cearly says that we would be able to do anything that we did put our hearts into it. We would be able to kill God if we wanted, but God did not allowed for His own sake. God knew He would lose power if He allowed us to complete that great work. So either this God is Satan, because He created confusion, but the bible says God is not the author of confusion, so this God who confused the languages is Satan, because God is not thr author of confusion. That, or the person who wrote the bible lied.
>>41365876The conclusion that I arrived at is that the bible is a lie. The peopel who wrote it knew how to manipulate the mind of the people. But they were only humans after all, they were incapable of making it so that all that which makes the bible would not contradict itself. You have lots of passages that contradict each other. One time nobody can see the face of God, but then a human being defeats God by fighting with Him until the morning breaks. Aha How so? Is not God all powerful? How the fuck does he lose to a human being? Lots and lot of contradictions. A divine being would be capable to write a book which doesn't contain contradictions, but this is not the case of the bible as I just showed one example. The most logical explanation is that the bible is a fabrication, a lie, and the authors could not agree with themselves all the time. Inevitably, some authors did contradict what other authors have said which makes it clear that the bible is a book full of holes and the individual who puts all his trust in thi book is doomed. He will go crazy, because there is no way to reconciliate the contradictions without lying to yourself.
>>41365916The scary thing is that God is evil, and the Bible is still true. Nimrod did nothing wrong.
>>41365934We were brainwashed since birth. They present the bible to us as the ultimate truth and when they tell us the stories which are cotained in the bible they try to spin everything in a positive light, in order to make God look good. But if you have just a little bit of critical thinking skills then you will question that which you are reading and also you are going to cross reference the verses and passages and all and you will see the contradictions. Take for example Isaiah 45:7 : "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."It is right there. This passage contradicts the dogma where it says that evil doesn't come from God, that God is not the author of evil. But Isaiah is clearly claiming that indeed God is the author of evil, and also wars. How nice.There is also another passage where they claim that there is no deceit in God. That God doesn't deceive, but them in the new testament the author claims that God is "sending" a strong delusion to deceive all the people who rejected Him. If God is sending a strong delusion which will deceive all the people who rejected him then He is orchestrating a deceit, there is deceit inside Him otherwise He would not send a strong delusion to deceive people who rejected him. lol>>And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie. 2 Thessalonians 2:11How come God be honest and without deceit, but at the same time he orchestrates a deception? Something is not right here.
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>>41366051>But if you have just a little bit of critical thinking skillsAnt Christ psyop immediately disregarded
You're really pushing it with this every day, do you want this attention to follow your daily life? cause it might.
>>41366096Its what I truly believe in.
>>41366089Why anti christ? It just so happens that we are talking about the bible here. But there are people who lack critical thinking skills in every religion. The very fact that organized religion exists is because people have a herd mentality. This is well documented. People will lie to themselves in order to "fit in" and go along with the rest of the people. They have studied this phenomena. A person who thinks for himself doesn't share this herd mentality. Believe it or not, but there are some of us who managed to scape from this matrix. Take Satan as an example. He is out of control if left unchecked. God has to put him under chains and cast in to Hell in order to contain Satan. My point is that things are not like they seem. God likes to brag that He is the most High God and every knew will bow. But the kness won't bow out of respect. They will bow out of fear or because they are being forced to bow. The point is that it doesn't matter what system we are talking about, those who question will always be a pain in His ass. God counts with the fact that he created you less smart than Him and that's why Satan is a good guy because Satan gave us knowledge to raise above our slave mentality. Now some of us are capable of thinking for themselves and they can question this so called reality. Now we know our condition. Now we know how bad we have it. Now the hidden hand is exposed. My friend, you see having critical thinking skills as some sort of psyop. This is a sign of the mentality of people who share your belief system. Let this be a sign, to them, having critical thinking skills is probably something related to Satan, something evil. In other words, thinking for youself is bad. Yes, don't think for yourself and beleive the dogma and this way you are easily manipulated.
>>41362739Yeah? What, do you think your specific definition of "horrible" is better?
>>41366206Yes. Our definition of horrible inclues killing babies and preganant women. God's definition of horrible doesn't. It's not the same. Our is better. You God does't see anything wrong with killing babies and pregnant woman and even the animals, not even the animals are spared.
>>41366206Isn't horrible that we have to kill other life forms in order to keep on living? But to people like the christians this is no big deal. The life of a sheep is meaningless to them. Christianity says we are more valuable than those animals and so we don't feel bad when we slaughter them to eat or to get their skin in order to heat ourselves, especially in winter time where the cold temperature can kill you. God gives natural protection to the beasts, but to us we must kill other animals to get hteir skins. God is cruel. What gives God the right to give life and them to take it? It is question like those that people who are cattle will never ask. Why is God allowed to create such evil system and be called good? This world is cruel because God is cruel. We are experiencing God's cruelty every single "time". God forces us to live in this reality and we have no choice whatsoever. If you kill yourself that's a mistery. We don't know what happens. We have theories, but the only way of finding out is actually going through death. People are afraid and they bet in X religion, generally the one they were raised in as children. My point is that it doesn' matter your religion, everyone is suffering and going through existencial crises. Even Jesus was afraid. He felt dread. He did sweet blood. Such is the human condition. And thanks to Satan we can see how full of shit God is.
>>41366270God said: "I'm good". And we, the creatures who have to live under Him, answered: "You sure isn't."
>>41366277God doesn't want the dissonant voices ruining His roleplay. The dissonant voices He will cast into Hell. The only wants the voices who will stroke His ego by singing how great and good and perfect and fair and wise and etc He is. But we, the voices who would sing: "fuck you! release me from this prison!" would break His immersion that He is God and all of that jazz. So He has to lock us up in Hell in order to shut us up. God knows we would ruin his vibe because we refuse to go along with the programming. If God wasn't such a control freak we would be out of control right now. Chaos. We would be free.
>>41362733That right is reserved
>>41366295Its a backwards religions and I have seen people behind church benches with no eyes so fuck jesus. Greatest con man in human history, the only thing about him I admire.When I get up to Heaven though im going to strangle him then shove him up my ass in front of everyone. Not liquid courage talking either, I really AM going to shove him up my ass to get rid of him.
>>41362728>I don't think anyone fully understands the implications of a seemingly omnipotent immortal god saying *nothing* will be restrained from them (us)you forgot the last part dumbfuck>which they have imagined to dowhat the builders were imagining to do was the will of satan, just as present day freemasons do the will of satan
Fuck you golems we're going to space
>>41362728tower of babel is the jewish falsification of real history when all the goyim uniting against them and their anunnaki overlords. just like they twisted the story of the german reich removing usury, sexual degeneracy, and communist bolshevik influence from their democracy as "antisemitism">the tower of babel story is allegory of genetic engineering>the first version of the synthetic goyim human had too much of their original aryan genes and united against their enslavers along with the last aryan giants.>the anunnaki empire decided to dilute the genes even more into separate tribes("races", species) and different languages(genetic code)>making different "species" more prone to competing and fighting each other over these engineered differences instead of rebelling against their common enemy.
>>41366270astral travel and plato's theory of forms suggest the material "reality" was created after existence and our essence of being or "souls". and i sincerely doubt it was by the same being.the abrahamists claim their "god" created the material world, which as you describe is a sadistic hell where all creatures must kill each other endlessly to survive. but their own "holy" books never say or specify that their deity created existence itself or our souls, or the energy.while you keep interpreting reality through the abrahamic filter, believing the bad cop, satan; youre still fueling their evil machine. image related.youre on the same path i was many years ago. let go of jewish fantasy or forever be trapped, donkey. there is a reason the only government who opposed jews is the most villified today.
>>41366958jew
>>41362728Low clouds could be cloaked spacecraft. I saw a bunch of them last week. They fly way lower than clouds normally do.
>>41366869Maybe they used it to dock cargo blimps, or other kinds of flying cargo ship? It's one big ramp from the top to the bottom. Ideal for moving cargo to ground level. And it's a port. So other peoples could send their sailing cargo ships to buy things from there. Maybe advanced things such as robots.
>>41362949It's better to be a cyborg pig slave, than get made into sausages. I think they look like people now.
>>41362733*then describes in the ONE language the methods of how the middest and lowliest of people can both be simultaneously raised up to be amongst the highest of people via neural density genetic treatments, making everyone average IQ*Hmm, are you all happy sentient entities now? Oh, only a small fraction of you seem to be, temporarily at least, but wow, how unexpected! A lot of you aren't! I wonder why that is? Maybe it is because your species didn't mature enough to become worthy of the exponential advancements that quickly spiral into Godhood! Just as a toddler should be kept away from the loaded gun drawer, so too must you monkeys be babysat until you're ready for the big boy cooperations.It is all really so very, very simple.
