>>41368889
> my "sin" was so great and I recieved so much sexual gratification from committing it that I am absolutely certain that any supposed savior wouldn't even bother saving me due to its universally reviled nature.

Is ok to think no one is gonna save you, probably no human will do it.
Bur you dont know God.
Maybe He saves you in the end

>>41368889
its not real, it isnt even in the bible. You are a gullible retard.

>>41368889
hell is like a monkey torture video that people post occasionally. bad monkeys that masturbate are tortured to death.

>>41368889
>Tell me
Revelation 21:8
>But for the cowardly ones, and unbelieving ones, and ones having been abominable, and murderers, and sexually-immoral ones, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all the liars— their part will be in the lake burning with fire and sulfur, which is the second death”.
You will face a resurrection of judgment and be permanently destroyed on that day.

But Jesus died for the sins of the world.
That includes yours.
Now see, have faith, and be baptized in the spirit.
All who abide in Jesus have enteral life.

>>41368889
>Tell me about Hell
That's us.
>Tell me all of the things that are going to happen to me when I get to hell
????
You coming over? So uh... what are your skills? Are you a fucking human?
> I have absolute confirmation and determination that I will absolutely go to hell
Huh, you know hell is a magnificient word that may mean a lot for a lot of people?
For christians, it's a pit of fire.
For us it's a conglomerate of dimensions.
> I hereby declaratively and explicitly reject any attempt at salvation
Too late, but you can do bettter, say it with your mouth and all the rage of your balls: I accept Darkness, I believe in Hell.
>my "sin" was so great
Yadda yadda, those who have regular lives commit many.
>I recieved so much sexual gratification
Like getting knotted being a grill? By a Doberman?
> tell me all of the absolutely horrible things that will absolutely happen to me
Depends of where in Hell you go, m8
>I can take it
You will probably reincarnate, you colossal faggot.

>So uh, what's this hell you speak of?
Us, that's us.

Inside everyone of us who peek through strange dimensional fuckimangies there is a lot of Hell inside our veins xddd

You gonna accept Darkness, or...?

>>41368889
It doesn't exist.

Hell is just what people want to threaten you with when you say something they disagree with.

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>>41368889
>Tell me all of the things that are going to happen to me when I get to hell
The mouth of Hell, the bottomless pit is the Entrance. So first sensation you feel is falling. Then you can no longer tell up from down, left from right, as dimensions start twisting and shifting around you. It makes you nasuues as if you have been stung by a scorpion. You don't feel the fire right away, it creeps up on you and gets hotter and hotter.

You will do, say, believe, anything just to leave.

According to some sources, it’s not that bad (or at least wasn’t back then). The worst of the worst get hung up on display, to motivate other condemned souls to stay pure while they are rehabilitated. But even those are taken down after a while, and submit to the regimen of fire and prayer to burn off the sin and grow new pure soul. Then after one or two hundred years, you go to the moon and get reincarnated. Some describe the process like working a crappy job in a crowded city. 90% of people get that fate.

>>41369377
Theres no hell. Bad things can happen on earth. But once you pass on you cannot be forced into any kind of hell realm. Avoid harming others and follow the golden rule.

>>41368889
There were so many good and detailed accounts of hell on /x/ a few years ago. Please post them again.

you raped a baby?

>>41368889
Lord Jesus, please help the OP - by the power of the Holy Spirit free him and heal him, Father I ask it in the most holy name Lord, of Jesus Christ. amen.

yeah I mean if you believe in hell the very assumptions that lead to the existence of hell as you understand it come from Christian ones which affirm an endless ocean of mercy. No sin is too great, but repent and seek truth (Christ). Seek the sacraments of confession and the eucharist and amend your life, no sin is too great.

There is no heaven or hell, the archons devour souls, we are food for them

https://voca.ro/1mAyASG0exr2

>>41368889
there is no hell.
there is a place of purification, which is more like taking a shower.
brimstone is used to wash away imperfections.

if you attribute sadism to what is basically called Love (i.e. God), there is no helping you.
but fear not, even this ignorance, this imperfection, is gonna be washed away.

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>>41368889
An open secret of occultism/spirituality is that the hell go're going to is actually created by your own mind. So the setting of this hell will be a design from your own subconsciousness. You will literally make your own hell.

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it will be "spiritual death" which isnt quite the same as being physically tortured in flames, though that raw physical pain will be a part of it

my theory on it is that all sense of free will, will be gone. any kind of autonomy. i've heard some NDE experiences where people have described them "being forced to dance", and they could see others dancing, but they were in torment. so like, not being able to control it

all sense of "other" will be gone. so the feeling where you see others, but it feels like they dont exist. being in a big crowd yet feeling like the only one. so eternal solipsism

no identity will probably be part of it also, yet paradoxically having identity, but the identity being torment and torture itself

no sense of hope. all hope is gone as its eternal. you realize that its never going to end. "if i just endure this much, then it will be over". nope. its never going to be over

the raw physical pain as mentioned above, will probably be amplified and magnified much more than what you could feel in just a flesh body. it will be eternal and conscious

i'm not sure if you'll have time to think, but if inbetween the continuous torment of pain you feel, you are somehow able to think something, i'd imagine it would be regret. being rejected and tossed away by your own creator as something vile would be a horrible feeling, probably feelings of regret due to misunderstanding who God was, that he actually loved and cared for you, and you were deceived into thinking he was some tyranical dictator, distant memories of an existence you once had on earth will probably be a vapor in eternity, but you might remember it somewhere in the torment, maybe not

before the lake of fire you will be tortured in hell by demons that know exactly what torments you, so look forward to that too. God is probably disgusted by that place and will throw you, hell, and all the demons in hell into the lake of fire, to be forgotten about forever, as an ugly smear on his creation

>>41371218
amongst the regret you might remember also all the stupid online arguments you had with the people who tried to tell you about God, and the dumb arguments you put forward. you will realize what an absolute fool you were. that feeling of getting 100k them gambling it all... "why the hell did i do that? why was i so stupid?". amplify that by a million

"why did i let culture influence me. why did i let media brainwash me. why did i waste my time with the life i had. i could have believed on Jesus and escaped this place"

but it will be too late

it's bullshit

the bible can't even decide on an afterlife (3 different versions)

>>41371287
i imagine one of the first terrifying things about hell and the lake of fire will be not realizing whats happening to you. losing control and being at the utter mercy of forces outside your comprehension

you never thought it existed, so as the realization sets in, there's going to be this intense feeling of horror or dread that sets in as you start to realize it

an NDE i always return to and listen too, to remind me of that place, and to fear God, in it he said "you know how you get given a fright, from a jump scare, and initially you're terrified, but then that feeling gradually starts to subside"...he described that feeling not returning to baseline, the feeling of fear and dread perpetually was in that state

its going to be so brutal man. this world pulls the wool over your eyes and fools you into thinking everything is "chillax", there's no need to worry. all of your fear and survival instinct has been sucked out. when i think about a person like that waking up in hell and realizing whats happening to them, i feel sorry for them

>>41371498
he also weirdly described himself as "all knowing" in the NDE. he knew why he was there, yet he was still confused as to why he was there and what was happening to him. like it was almost abhorrent to his being that was there, yet there he was

>>41371498
>>41371218
Fearmongering mind control from priests who are no less sinful than you

Be kind to yourself and others.

The only people getting hellish ndes are people who had psychosis events.

>>41371697
This world, it is difficult enough. To torture someone who did their best to enjoy life is morally insane.

>>41368889
Fire and brimstone hell isn't for humans, the church added that when people stopped giving them money.

>>41371705
That's one thing I could never reconcile, how come less than a hundred years of life would warrant an eternity of pain and torture?

>>41371705
>>41371697

it doesnt matter how you feel about it. what matters is the truth of what will happen. this is what will happen TO YOU if you dont believe on Jesus. God hates sin. without a covering for sin you are doomed. again, it doesnt matter how you feel, how you feel about God, your opinions, your feelings etc. you should be amazed as insignificant as you are that you are allowed to have opinions in the first place

this is what will happen. this is what will be enforced

>>41371725

God exists in the realm of eternity and absolutes. its only on earth where we experience time are things temporary. once this temporary life is over, the vastness of eternity awaits. where will you spend it

>>41368889
There was a hell I saw, utterly horrific, things you can't imagine. Unspeakable horrors. The hell I saw wasn't really lava and flames inside some canyon with the devil. No, man, it was fucking WEIRD. It was like a cold, metallic pipe filled room with faces and limbs oozing over the wall and they were telling me this is my new home. No matter how I screamed in there, the screams only got quitter and were absorbed by the creepy ass metallic faces. These faces would also spit fetuses and human limbs that kept piling up near me. There was a second phase I experienced near the comedown and it felt like I was picked up by God and thrown into a place that has no meaning of anything at all. Nothing made sense and there were huge structures that kept shifting and changing shapes. I started to shift and it freaked me out. My leg was folding in itself for decades and my head kept shrinking inside of my body. My limbs left me and I was just a torso on white matter. Nothing made sense and I couldn't even develop regular thoughts. I just kept shifting and morphing like the structures into eternity. Somehow something happened and I slowly came back into my body. I kept folding and being compressed into matter and I thought I was literally the floor sometimes. After I regained consciousness, I forgot I existed as a human being. I was trapped in there for millions of years with all senses amplified 10000 times. In one reality, I could see thoughts hear sounds etc with words and sounds turning into solid geometric shapes and moving almost on a conveyoy belt. I was trying to go back into the floor to see if to was real and the floor was slightly warping

>>41371775

think about what it means "to be saved". what are you being saved from. why did God go through all this effort, to send his son. what is the work of God about

SAVING YOU FROM GOING TO THAT PLACE

>>41371815

i think its useful to point out that hell and the lake of fire are 2 different places

hell is a place that can be a place of psychic torment, it can be demons torturing you, it could be a place of purgatory. it could be described in a number of ways

the lake of fire is what you should worry about. nobody has experienced that yet. hell is going to be thrown into the lake of fire once God wraps this all up. all the evil grosse stuff about existence basically gets rounded up and thrown in that eternal trash dispenser

DONT END UP THERE

>>41371763
>bla bla u r insignificant
>bla bla i am so smart i know God and u dont

Threatening me with torture is the best way to make me tell you to fuck off

>>41371775
So that makes it okay for even the worst people that love less than a hundred years to suffer for an eternity? Sounds like God hates humanity and knows that most people will end up being punished forever for no reason other than he couldn't be bothered to blink evil out of existence. Because that's apparently too hard for him to do, right? Or did he not do it because fuck humans, amirite?

>>41371846
It's all they have. It gives them a feeling of smug superiority to tell someone that they'll burn of they don't believe their particular made up religion.

>>41371725
Dont listen to infernalists threatening you with afterlife torture for any reason whatsoever, do not even listen to useless theological arguments. There is no eternal hell. Its a lie the cult invented to enslave you. The people running the cult are more evil than you and threatening you with hell is their mind control tool.

>>41371863
Ironically what they are doing is known as blasphemy.

>>41371856

you can whine and end up in hell, or you can believe in Jesus and get saved from going to that place. everything else is irrelevant. Gods existence and who he is defines the rules. realize your place compared to God and humble yourself. or, you can get swept up by your emotions and what you think should happen and suffer for all eternity

>>41371891
Yes anons, threatening people with afterlife hell is indeed known as blasphemy. It is a very wicked thing to do. The people who do this are not your friends.

>>41371904
Youre blaspheming again anon. Be very careful.

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>>41371918

>no dont say things that make us uncomfortable, that shake us and wake us up from this zombie sleepwalk through life, where we take nothing seriously and life is a meme

>>41372079
>threaten me with torture because you have no power
>expect me to give a fuck about your shitopinons or be kind to you

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>>41372079

>no stop preaching against homosexuality, against our sins and telling us there will be consequences. stop prophesying to us! NOOOO LALALALAL~ *plugs ears* LIFE IS GOOD LALALALALA NUTHIN BAD WILL HAPPEN LALALA

When I was younger I died from mixing too much medication, I remember the fear of knowing I was about to die I went into a seizure and blacked out, while I was out I didn’t see anything but I heard this horrible noise like being in a stadium with everyone crying and screaming. I woke up to being shocked with those electric paddle things.

>this stopped me in my tracks the first time I heard it. Uncanny resemblance.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn40J673-1U&pp=ygUkZGVlcGVzdCBob2xlIGluIHRoZSB3b3JsZCBtaWNyb3Bob25l

>>41369329
Does this mean my consciousness is completely rendered null? This happens to me every time I fall asleep.

DARPA is planning an operation where Seal Team Six will undertake a katabasis journey and will neutralize Satan and free everyone from hell. Take that.

>>41371839
Isn't the Lake of Fire a place of purification? Doesn't the etymology of "torment" relate to the burning away of dross from gold? The Bible also refers to God as a refiner and purifier of silver.

So I always saw it as a place of cleansing. Maybe completely evil things, like demons, hell, etc get burned away and destroyed completely. Perhaps satan, being infinitely evil, gets burned forever, because there's infinite evil to burn away, idk. But I kind of like to think that at least human souls, even very evil one, probably have some kernal of goodness that remains after the evil aspects of them are burned away. Maybe this part survives. Though it would be better to preserve as much of your soul as possible in heaven.

>>41372097
Nail yourself to a cross and be like your king
Cut off your penis, it is an implement of the devil that tempts you to sin
Martyr yourself, get beheaded, its the highest golem virture
Die, die quickly, and dont forget to forgive the people killing you

>>41372503

Gods existence is an existence that is "100%" light:

"God is light, and in him is no darkness at all" - 1 John 1:5 KJV

additionally, he is eternal and absolute

creation in contrast is never 100% light or 100% of anything for that matter. God is completely unique in that respect

so doing even 1 sin breaks cuts us off from him, because hes perfection

additionally because he is eternal, the weight of sin gets eternal punishment

there's no "purifying" in the lake of fire. its an eternal dumpster where everything that offends God gets thrown. hell, demons, fallen angels, lucifer, everything:

"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away" - Revelation 21:4 KJV

"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death" - Revelation 20:14 KJV

death itself gets thrown into the lake of fire, aswell as hell. its called "the second death". hell is just the first. get saved anons. its too horrible a fate to get thrown in the lake of fire. you should devote your life to learning about who God is and help prevent as many people as possible from going there too

>>41372777

"For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved" - John 3:20 KJV

>NOOOOooo just let me keep feeling comfortable living however i want!!!! dont tell me uncomfortable things will happen! that there are consequences for being morally evil NOOOOOO

>>41371725
>That's one thing I could never reconcile, how come less than a hundred years of life would warrant an eternity of pain and torture?

Indeed. The idea of hell renders justice meaningless. Is the creator devoid of justice? Love? Mercy? No. Hell is a childish idea created by those who want to control others through fear.

>>41372894

>Indeed. The idea of hell renders justice meaningless. Is the creator devoid of justice? Love? Mercy? No. Hell is a childish idea created by those who want to control others through fear.

the reason why its so severe is because God is binary extreme. 100% light means extreme goodness, which means extreme punishment on evil too

also, you have an easy escape route. believe on Jesus, no works required. but you wont

>>41372140
Bore hole hell debunked. Sounds are from a 1970s movie titled Baron Blood. Maybe you collapsed in a movie theater while watching Baron Blood. lol

>>41369329
Define sexually-immoral.

>>41372961
>the reason why its so severe is because God is binary extreme. 100% light means extreme goodness, which means extreme punishment on evil too
>also, you have an easy escape route. believe on Jesus, no works required. but you wont
That's quite a uncharitable opinion regarding a person you've never met. Makes me suspect that you know little of God.

>>41372855
Nail yourself to a cross, cut off your hand and put your eye out, martyr yourself like your king. The highest christian virtue is to be beheaded. Get to work.

There are ways to train the brain to turn off your pain receptors at will.
Turn your compassion inwards and dont drive yourself mad focusing on the suffering of others.

>>41373053

think of things like this. God has set rules for himself, or rather those seem to be a part of his being, where he never crosses a certain boundary. this is his "100% perfection" so to speak

he feels mercy and compassion within those boundaries (it is not his will that any should perish), but ultimately must stick to those boundaries and rules

those boundaries and rules are EXTREME binaries, but the very purpose of them is to protect love which is housed within those boundaries. those extreme binaries are like guardians protecting something thats precious within. think of a man who is like a rugged man of steel, and he has a wife at home who he guards fiercely. its sort of like that

also, his holiness deflects everything dark. darkness flees at the intensity of his light

for me to call that a binary extreme isnt uncharitable at all. but im curious why you interpreted it as uncharitable?

>>41373030
>bore hole
You’re a whore hole
> borophyll.gif

>>41372822
So a 9 year old child who tells a lie and dies without repenting spends an eternity in hell? Got it.

>>41371273
I did acid once and went to hell and I can confirm this is the dumbest mindset though still possible as a self hell like as you're dying idk lol. Hell is an idea inspired by really fucked people who need to get mega fucked forever, and then that morphed into you must believe in jesus or else as soon as you die that is just like haha whoops god made a world with no proof of him and belief in him, not faith was what matters. Real faith used to be believing God had your back. If you are busy trying to believe he even exists you're just agnostic.

This kinda sucks but maybe everything goes down. Maybe it would be cool if everything went up like you started out in hell and eventually ended in heaven, but, idk it just kinda seems like everything goes down. Maybe things keep reincarnating at the top but eventually shit goes down and idk maybe it won't totally suck but it would be no longer existing. But that's just kinda whatever bc we are all the same thing reincarnating

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>>41368889
First, YOU in particular, are going to see a chair, in a room of all white.

You are going to sit in this chair.

Then you will hear a voice, and it will say "say the words".

There are many answers you can provide here, with differing outcomes.

For some combinations, it doesn't matter what words you say.
When you begin to speak the words, doors will begin to appear in this room.
Then you will feel a presence, and a being shall approach you, "I am here to define your doors."

Then they will describe what is behind each of the doors for you.

You will be allowed to use any door you wish.

The one who defines the doors shall be present until you leave through a door.

Try not to make your name too long.
They don't like that, unless you know what you are doing. They are only looking for professionals. ;D

>>41373683
so the idea that we all started in heaven, get sent to earth for boot camp, and then go to either heaven or hell makes so much sense, nah, it's more like dust to dust

>>41371218
>you will be tortured in hell by demons that know exactly what torments you

oh...... so just like every single day of my life right now?

>>41373700
https://youtu.be/_LypjOTTH6E

Blue Eisenhower November
Only say these three words, if you are ready to put in THE WORK.
Those who say BEN, forego their own paradise, but only if you really mean it.

Know what you're getting into.
There's a reason it's so quiet out (THERE). Guys.

We are the reason. Buying time, is expensive.

As a BEN man, I would like to formally thank the United Space Fleet, Multiversal Division.

We have a nominal influence radius of 3 Billion light years, per activated human soul.
It's almost time to throw another one in the fire.

BEN317 is in the pipe.
If we activate 317, for something as trivial as 3i ATLAS, then I really hope those guys know how to build a null dimensional anchor. If they don't know that, then you guys on Earth are going to see some hilarious shit.

>>41368889
>Tell me all of the things that are going to happen to me when I get to hell.
Nobody knows shit like that. The christians have their dogma, but even between them they disagree about the aspects of Hell. Some say people will be tortured medieval style, you know? Other people say Hell is simply a place where you are separed from God and shit. My point is that there's no way for anyone here to trully know what happens in Hell. Hell seems to be a fabrication of a very wicked mind. I don't think the concept of Hell was created by a trully benevolent entity. The Hell as we are told seems like the fabrication of a schizo jew mind. Let us not forget that the jews have a higher degree of incidence of schizo disease. They prophets were all schizos because they fuck each other instead of fucking people who are not their sisters, you know? They merry each other red neck style. Anyway, nobody call tell you what happens in Hell for sure.

>>41371815
Can confirm when I went to hell it was like this it was like a strong iron taste of death I only tasted it once in my life hell is more than just hellfire and burning it’s confusing evil shit happening all the time people killing and torturing other people and people that thought they were gonna do evil or kill are getting killed by other evil people and you see their faces go from cocky to normal to sad it’s kind of like a chessboard the afterlife and people are entities not humans so you can transform into demons if you kill other people and you actually enjoy it evil things will happen in hell such as family members betraying you and the ones closest hurting you the most in some cases it will be very confusing and scary make even the most toughest badass serial killer pee their pants the only people who will be able to endure hell is someone who ONLY cares about themselves.

>>41368889
First, tell me what you did
I'm not gonna judge you, but it's to know better

>>41372961
You lack both wisdom and understanding and should really refrain from preaching at people until you obtain it.
The passage stating god is 100% light is refrencing ein soph aur. 'Limitless light' it's the state before division and creation. While it's true that god exists as this simultaneously with all other aspects of himself, the god you're referencing that judges has different aspects. If god was '100% light' as you claim and that was the end of it, then there would be neither any judgement or creation because light doesn't have the capacity to think. Therefore there must be something more than light there. Your entire argument falls apart because you haven't put 2 seconds of critical thought into it or tried to actually understand what the bible was saying and then just parrot it as if it's truth becauae it's in there. It makes the whole religion look bad because you misinterpret the text and then spew things that can be debunked with 2 seconds of thinking.
Try to understand the bible, not just parrot it. Either read kabala or study the writings of the saints

Hell is going to be facing what happened in the most intimate and vivid way imaginable.

Lets say, hypothetically, you molested a minor. You will get to stand with them and observe that you did, like watching a movie together, except the experience will play out as if it were happening in the room with you. Them as now an adult, and you, watching the younger versions of you both going through the experience again right in front of you. You'll get to experience how it affected them from that point on, what it inhibited them from being able to accomplish, how that trauma permeated out and affected others. You'll get to feel how they felt, and likely you'll also get to be them and experience what it was like to be molested by yourself, and repeatedly face them and look them in the eyes throughout all of this. And you'll have to face yourself and fully come to terms with those parts of you that wanted to do it, and try to accept that about yourself. You'll have the opportunity to say what you want to them, and listen to what they have to say to you about that experience. You'll get to feel all of those emotions, yours and theirs, in a deeper way than you ever have felt something before. And you'll have to sit there and be 100% present and locked in for it all, no chance of escape, diverting your attention to something else, no distractions or lying about any aspect of it without you and that person knowing what the truth really is. And how you comport yourself is going to be a determining factor in how you move forward from that point.

This might not sound too bad, but wait until you're actually going through it. words don't do it justice.

"There are things that men can do to each other that are sobering to the soul. It's one thing to reconcile these things with God. It's another to square it with yourself."

>>41375741
Oh I feel such guilt and shame, cmon baby, give it to me.
>U did a bad
I hope so

>>41376092
Don't tell me. Tell yourself when you get there.

>>41376102
Get where? Back home?
I'm a demon, are you sure you wanna waste time threatening me with my bread and butter?

>>41376110
I made no threats. I never used the words good or bad. And you're no demon.

>>41371697
It is pretty obvious that this is a very viral fearmongering meme to make people adhere to a loose dogma. You could say the same thing about anything else - if you do not believe in stones being the face of God, you will burn in hell!!
It is disappointing that people here genuinely believe in this because ironically they will be confronted with their beliefs when they die, the unravelling happens. Faith can move mountains, so why wouldn't it move you? Imagine believing in hell so much and then you try your best to "repent" because you subconsciously perceive yourself as guilty (because you kind of are) and drop down into the most visceral, unironic hyperreal, eternal hellscape of your greatest imagination forever, or at least until you let go.

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>>41376159
Sorry, not sorry.
I don't feel threatened by your nonsense idea of a judgement of character.
I do not share your beliefs.
I'm a demon, I did practices to become a demonic god, and I suceeded.
I've invested myself fully in the left hand path, and instead of theorizing platitudes, Id rather know for sure.

>But how do you know you're a demon.

Some symptoms include a necessity of Darkness, human blood and soul fragments. It's a constant need to boot.

I'm not sure why, but 4chan is filled by your type, you never did the rituals, never opened a book, never hit the meditation pose, yet you're sure we're getting nowhere, or that we do meth.

>>41376355
Who's judging you? It's certainly not me.
Who's threatening you? Also not me.
You seem to be reading a lot of things I never said.

>I do not share your beliefs
What are my beliefs? Be specific.

>>41368889
Hell isn't real and your idiotic human ideals are laughable.

>>41376390
You typed them
I'm not reading shit, apart from the shit you typed.
If by any chance, you're gonna play dumb I'll do same as you

>>41376410

you think in dualities. you experience reality in dualities e.g pain/pleasure, good/bad, inside/outside, up/down, left/right etc etc

it logically follows that an idea of a heaven and hell is consistent with this

you're not getting off the hook that easy bud

>>41376470
>reddit spaced
>wrong
>gay
3/3 way to go buddy!

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>>41376493

duality and non duality is a duality

>>41376513

if non duality and reincarnation were the truth, nothing would exist. the fact something exists, means a being willed those dualities

not looking good for you huh? unless of course, you turn to the truth

>>41369329
>But Jesus died for the sins of the world.
>That includes yours.

what sort of sins did he die for?
im asking rhetorically, because christian give an answer without really thinking about the implications (because they barely think): "ALL SINS"..

ok. is it not a sin to reject God/Christ?
"I reject Christ, may he rot in hell" - would this statement not be an offense. If i publicly offend an officer, i get a fine, so even in the secular world, it is recognized as an offense, a sin. falling short of perfection.
So I am sinning by not accepting Christ, disrespecting the cross.

But this is a "sin", and all sins are covered.

Thus, the ONLY logical conclusion that can come out of this is the doctrine of UNIVERSAL SALVATION regardless of what humans do. and this Paul also confirms, stating how that through the 1st Adam sin entered into the world, without your personal involvement. In the same manner, through the 2nd Adam (Jesus), sin was removed - again, there is no personal involvement on your side, in other words, you do not have to have faith. lack of faith is a sin. its an imperfection, missing the point = definition of sin!

thus the whole enterprise of evangelism is nonsense.
all doctrines of "hell" have to be re-interpreted in this light.
universalists do that properly. "eternity" refers to eon, does not mean endless suffering in hell.
hell is not even a place of suffering, its a place of "fire and brimstone", a means for purification/correction.
"God is love" implies that he could hurt none.
He in fact says he does not like animal sacrifices etc. people invented that and Moses allowed it. Jesus called the torah Moses' law, not God's law.
Elsewhere it states that the scribes invented most things in the bible.

Here is the truth. Christendom is BS.
God exists. Is Love. There is no evil, no pain, suffering etc. for you in the afterlife.
No hell. This is prob your first time reading the TRUE good news.

>>41368889
If everything is a test does that mean you are in hell?

>>41376749

"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned" - 1 Corinthians 2:14 KJV

"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God" - 1 Corinthians 1:18 KJV

it sounds like you're going to perish anon

everyone who denies that there's an eternal hell waiting on the other side, is like a naieve blue piller in the dating scene who think all women are princesses or something

you've been fed a false narrative about reality. a disney narrative, that everything is soft and squishy like a marshmellow

no, reality is brutal. the red pill in the dating scene shows the true nature of how women select a mate. this is similar

swallow the brutal truth, then you can actually get saved from where you were going to go. it's easy to be saved, and that's the good news. Jesus did all the hard work. salvation happens in the soul and spirit, both of which are non physical, proving works are not what saves you. but the belief needs to be genuine, you cannot fool God

scripture says "anyone who wants too, let him take of the water of life freely" and that it's not Gods will that any should perish. take up his offer and not die and go where everybody else is going

the collective all uses windows 11, all uses tiktok, is dumb etc. the collective is going to hell. dont be part of that crowd. break away from the collective and find salvation

if you really want to be special and be part of the elect, find God. he is hidden and most people dont find him. most people get deceived by the god of this world:

"In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them" - 2 Corinthians 4:4 KJV

the vast majority believe in your dumb buddhist religion, or hinduism, or are a freemason, or a carnal christian etc. find the actual real God and you'll be one of the true elite

>>41376173
there are multiple ways of hell and also multiple ways of getting to the truth. So you can make a list, and there can also be opposing truths like there may be some truth in both thoughts, or alternatively, there may be some lies in both. Hell isn't real but not hell is also not real.. because what if, if you boiled Jesus down you'd basically get two things - don't be a hypocrite and you just gotta like become love - well so what if it is that simple that those who feel love even if they are pure evil feel heaven and those who feel hate go to hell. So after a life of misery you go to hell too haha

Then there is the truth hell. There may be just as much torture and not believing but the point is for you to realize shit.

Now I'm not saying we made it all up but have you ever been so mad at someone you just want to fucking make them understand how horrible they are, or make them suffer forever? Truth hell, punishment hell, and nonbeliever hell definitely look like inventions. Love hell seems like it could be a realization but maybe the shittiest one as happy psychos don't have to go

>>41376971
and as it relates being a happy psycho is maybe the biggest reason this reality is bunk. People just want to be happy but happy =/= nice and nice =/= good. We know here on earth the nice guys tend to finish last so we invented meek heaven. For me, if I could pick I might pick we all go to dust bc for one that was a simple way of looking at life before jesus showed up and bc ultimately nothing really matters, people *almost* should go to hell forever and doing a revenge almost should send you too but no. Even if you spent your whole life miserable or happy or helping or torturing it isn't going to effect fucking ETERNITY lmao

>>41368889
Your consciousness will be erased you wont even experience hell you degenerate whatever blank slate conciousness is left will be filtered and recycled to make new soul beings prepare to be erased and deleted a fate worse the hell where at least you retain some consciousness.

>>41377002
>effect
disregard that isukcox

>>41376875
>Jesus
Lmao

>>41377002

bros, you literally cry all day about eternal hell

"how could such a place exist!!!!"

but you dont accept the free offer, the hand being extended to you, to NOT go there. its as easy as believing in Jesus and The Gospel. you dont need to do anything

but instead its always

"BUT HELL IS SO BAD"

believe. take the water of life, and your sin is covered. thats THE GOOD NEWS. repent (which means TURN) from believing in lies

"Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent" - John 6:29 KJV

whats the work anons? whats the work according to this verse? BELIEVE

"BUT HELL HECKIN EXISTS AHHHHH. IDK WHAT IM GONNA DO"

BELIEVE.

>>41368889
It's just a nation in the lower spiritual planes. Looks "Mesopotamian" from what I was able to see of it from astral projection. There are fallen angels, souls of both native demon and human, even old Gods who are no longer welcome in the higher planes for various reasons. What I'm saying is while it isn't Heaven or a similar Godly plane, be respectful and it isn't a bad place either. Most souls aren't out to harm you.

>>41377029
Real talk, do you want to buy a bridge?

>>41376430
Please quote where I said anything to judge or threaten you. Maybe you're confusing me with someone else you've been talking to on here.

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>>41376390
these or the only comments I've made on here. and you still haven't told me what it is you think I believe.

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>>41368889
>simple question...
Q. Where did all the info about hell come from... IF NO CUNT EVER COMES BACK FROM IT?
>it's not in any holy book
>it's not in the bible
So who made it up? Some jew or some mad nigger?
And WHY do you believe that shit?

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>>41368889
Just do this exercise once in your life.
It guarantees you a place in Heaven.
This is all you need to do to avoid Hell.
It's this simple. Just do it now!

>>41378046

there is a difference between a quick head acknowledgement, and actually meaning it. it'd be like if you were told to apologize to a Spirit say. The Spirit has eye that can see through you, and knows whether you're being legit or not. there's no problem here, as long as you're being legit. and you need to really know the FULL Gospel, which isnt presented in this tiny image. you need to know where you were going, what you were saved from, what Jesus did, you need to acknowledge God raised Jesus. being told this by an actual believer and being taken through the scripture so you understand its a free gift, etc. thats how you get saved

not a quick "i will recite the national anthem then go back to business as usual". no

>>41378200
If they do it with intention and feeling, it will be enough. Even if they have never set foot in a church. Even if they have never read the Bible. Even if they follow another religion or no religion in their lives. If someone does this repenting exercise above at least once in their life, they will avoid hell. They can do it more than once to be safe.

>>41378425

dont gamble your eternity anon. "the seed" of The Word needs to take root in your soul, this results in being born again

>>41372146
But every time you fall asleep you wake up.
So too you will wake up on the day of judgment.
But the wicked will be destroyed in their entirety and will no longer have a body to wake up with.

>>41373032
>Define
No
You know what it means

>>41376749
>Thus, the ONLY logical conclusion that can come out of this is the doctrine of UNIVERSAL SALVATION regardless of what humans do.
No.
Even by your own frame this is still a ridiculous conclusion

Matthew 13:30
>Let both grow together until the harvest, and at harvest time I will tell the reapers, “Gather the weeds first and bind them in bundles to be burned, but gather the wheat into my barn

>>41368889
nice try mason, I'm not reading that, jesus is my savior

>>41378674
Ur going to Hell

There's nothing of a soul to bind it to a hell.
If god can modify the spirit in anyway, then it is no free will.. Being that humans are shapeshifters, you can not have a constitute person to be accounted for in regards to the fact identity is fluid.

There's no way a god physically places people in a container they can't get out of and can't destroy. So hell is a bureaucracy of people trying to create census on jurisprudence of the dead. Death is not a court trial, it's a natural process.

When you die, you go into a liminal state of bardo where you began to hallucinate and then make a alternate reality. If anything. Since the spirit is immaterial it ends up making another vessel for it's neurological familiarity due to the organic compunction of biology.

After bardo, you end up becoming a new being with different newfound abilities such as shapeshifting and teleporting. And going between a corporeal and incorporeal form.

(a incorporeal form is like the view from the deftones album where you are seeing a wider field of view and due to the visual field encompassing the entire 360 degree panorama through a Poincare's disc, essentially OBE )

Assured I have yet to die, I have done lots of drugs to give me the cusp of ESP powers and am familiar with dreaming and demons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFVNrox01SM