is all of this really the atman? all the suffering and predation, all the dissease, all the shit, i know its all illusion but how can that be atman? is buddha right?
>>41369248yes the little singular cell, the insects,the birds, the trees, dogs,cows, rocks AND EVEN INDIANS! are the atman itself! pure consciousness, existence and bliss!
>>41369258>EVEN INDIANSkek
>>41369248“Ātman is Brahman.” — Māṇḍūkya Upaniṣad“The Self is not born, nor does it die.” — Kaṭha Upaniṣad“He who sees all beings in the Self, and the Self in all beings, never turns away from It.” — Īśa Upaniṣad“That which sees but cannot be seen, hears but cannot be heard — that is your Self, the Inner Ruler, immortal.” — Bṛhadāraṇyaka Upaniṣad“When all desires of the heart are gone, the mortal becomes immortal.” — Kaṭha Upaniṣad“As a man puts on new garments, so the Self takes new bodies.” — Bhagavad Gītā 2.22“Weapons do not cut It, fire does not burn It.” — Bhagavad Gītā 2.23“The Self is eternal, all-pervading, unchanging.” — Bhagavad Gītā 2.24“Brahman is real, the world is illusory; the Self is not different from Brahman.” — Śaṅkara“The Self is ever-present. Remove the veil of ignorance.” — Ramana Maharshi“You are not in the body; the body is in you.” — Nisargadatta Maharaj“The Atman is the one subject of all subjects.” — Swami Vivekananda“That Self, though one, dwells in all beings.” — Śvetāśvatara Upaniṣad“You are pure consciousness — the witness of the world.” — Aṣṭāvakra Gītā“Thou art That.” — Chāndogya Upaniṣad“I am Brahman.” — Bṛhadāraṇyaka Upaniṣad
>>41369248>sufferingYou know I might be weird but that word never meant much to me. Dunno how I should relate to it.
>>41369248
>>41369248Yes. It is all God. If you don't want to become prey, never trust or help others. Always lie, cheat and steal.
Westerners misunderstanding buddhism thread #20930964096
>>41369248Atman is Batmanyou heard it here first
>>41369726satanic philosophy
>>41369924Truth "philosophy". You have to become useless to escape the reincarnation system. "If you're not a slave, you're 'dead'."
>>41369924And I know that the gold light is the way out and that the white light is the memory wiped reincarnation soul trap
>>41369967white gold is a thing... memory as not being all now? I mean idk... reincarnation is the knowledge of soul traps, it's kind of a tinker pools of a kind of wipe :p>yolo eat much moment critiki needed bb
>>41370036nice try diddy
>>41369726even cow dung is god?
>>41370475I think of it as everything that has consciousness but cow dung would be a product of that simulation
>>41369248Did buddha believe in atman?
>>41370069to be fair I've eatten some monkey paws... closest relation kind of thing..>deep in the plus of light this crafter beginning given spiritually sound mind of mind tolerance>inter net
>>41370571no
>>41370867he actually remained silent about it
Obligatory: they are all frauds.
>>41369248https://sacred-texts.com/hin/upan/index.htm
>>41371158poopanishads
>>41369248I am not mind, intellect, ego and the memory.I am not the sense of organs (ears, tongue, nose, eyesand skin).I am not the five elements ( sky or ether, earth, lightor fire, the wind and the water).I am supreme bliss and pure consciousness, I amShiva,I am all auspiciousness, I am Shiva.I am not Prana ( energy) nor five vital airs(PanchVayu), nor the seven essential material( saptadhatu ), nor the five sheaths of the body ( panchakosha ).I am not the organ of speech, nor hand nor the leg,nor the organs of procreation or theelimination(anus).I am supreme bliss and pure consciousness, I amShiva,I am all auspiciousness, I am Shiva.I have no hatred or dislike, neither greed nor liking,no delusion,I have no pride or haughtiness, nor jealousy.I have no duty to perform(dharma), no desire for anywealth or pleasure (kama), I have no liberation(moksha) either.I am supreme bliss and pure consciousness, I amShiva,I am all auspiciousness, I am Shiva.I have neither virtue, nor vice.nor pleasure or pain,I do not need mantras(sacred chants), norpilgrimages. nor scriptures (Vedas), rituals orsacrifices (Yagyas).I am neither the enjoyed nor the enjoyer,nor enjoyment.I am the supreme auspiciousness of the form ofconsciousness-bliss(chidananda Rupah). I am theauspiciousnessI am supreme bliss and pure consciousness, I amShiva,I am all auspiciousness, I am Shiva.I have no fear of death, nor do I have death. Nodoubt about my existence, nor distinction of caste. Ihave no father or mother, I have no birth.I have no relatives, nor friend, nor the guru, nor thedisciple.I am pure knowledge and supreme bliss, I am Shiva,I am all auspiciousness, I am Shiva.I am formless and devoid of all dualitiesI exist everywhere and pervade all sensesAlways I am the same,I am neither free nor bondedI am pure knowledge and supreme bliss, I am Shiva,I am all auspiciousness, I am Shiva.
>>41371567nirvana shatakam more like poovana shitakam
>>41369248What's atman?
>>41373444>>41369343
>>41369248a lot of the suffering is an illusion so then people do really horrible shit over an illusion. At one point I did some acid and thought about that and it was funny but no, it's not actually funny. It's really crabs in a bucket, leveling culture, gossipping, completely making up shit about people in order to get people to attack them. Buddhists put just a little too much effort into personal mindset like you could alternatively actually make your world better
