Do you guys actually have an inner monologue in your head instead of just thinking about something?
>>41373740Yes, I have an inner monologue going on almost all the time. It only shuts off when I'm reading stuff or if I specifically try to shut it off.
>>41373740I would say im thinking of things but there's also always an inner monologue running unless I quiet my mind....which I didn't learn to do till I was ~20 years old. And there monologue sounds like my speaking voice URHURK
>>41373824>>41373828but why do you have one? that's like saying you smell with your eyes all the time? language is only a tool for communicating thoughts externally, not for internal formation and manipulation of thoughts.
>>41373844But loike m8, don't you formulate ur thoughts into bluddy words b4 u express em? It's like that except I don't express 99.9% of the words. I feel like if there wasn't a inner dualogue I'd just be like a buddy ani.al m8 w8f like pictures of blankets and balloons flying around tied to emotion of when I saw a guy with a weird shaped forehead, ya ken?
>>41373740Yes.Sometimes I'll stare into space and narrate a whole scenario of me being something other than a useless 4chan poster..
>>41373828>URHURK Did you cough up a hairball there anon?>>41373844Language is for communication first, and not necessary for all forms of thought. As for why we might turn on our language center internally without vocalizing...Have you ever spoken out loud without anyone around? Haven't you ever composed the written word and revised it in your mind? The point is to verbally spar with yourself. It is the manipulation of symbols mentally, just like you would arranging symbols for math. Words are just pointers to concepts in our neural nets. We can self-activate those with linguistic thoughts and simulate language.How in the world do people not understand this?
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Yes. Though sometimes it'll take on the tone of a character I like. Have had to stop my inner voice from sounding like General Grievous multiple times.
>>41373844>language is only a tool for communicating thoughts externallywhy not also use it internally?>not for internal formation and manipulation of thoughtswhy not?
>>41373844>that's like saying you smell with your eyes all the timeno, it's like saying you can picture something in your head. which people do. are you also incapable of that?
>>41373844Why do I have one? My brain just developed that way.I don't think words are just tools- I believe they're fundamental to reality. Jesus is after all the Word of God, the Bible constitute words given to us by God. I don't think all human-accessible information can be described in words and numbers, but I think almost all of it can besides like visual art and beauty and such which are harder to pin down with words.Do you think visually? Or just thought-language that isn't really language?
>>41373740Train to stop it when desired
>>41373909I get what your saying, but it just confussing on why you can do it. Yes, If i try, i can speak to myself alone, i can revise written words, but i just don't feel the need to verbally spar with myself. I just feel like doing the things I do, I feel like saying these words, I feel like writing things down, if I feel like i written something down wrong, i use my eyes to see what I've written, and if I don't feel like I enjoy what I'm seeing I change them, I just don't understand why I need to spar with myself because I'm one person.
>>41373844The words are a crutch, like using a calculator. Generally, crutches can create a net gain or a net loss depending on what the crutch is and how extensively it's used. In the case of hearing words to think, it can be a net gain if the words help to capture the concepts behind them but it can be a net loss if overused, and the expressive limitations and cultural influences of language end up controlling you.An internal dialogue is much better than an internal monologue because it models the process of actually thinking, not just having thoughts. If you want to have a decent idea and resist influence, you have to ask why something is true or false and try to construct a sound argument. Obviously that will involve non-verbal thinking of the causal relations of things, so the conditionality in your logic has some real basis. Otherwise, words can help.I've "actually thought" about this: when people make an arrogant claim "My brain works just fine despite me doing X harm to it or refusing Y crutch", they're just justifying irrational behavior and making themselves appear correct by presenting themselves as intelligent. You shouldn't scorn helmets because you're so confident in your ability to ride a bike or gas yourself out with weed every night just because you can still write satisfactory code the next day. Healthy behavior = good outcome, unhealthy behavior = bad outcome regardless of your based forehead and thick neck or whatever. If you can't tell you're harming yourself, it doesn't mean you're not harming yourself.
>>41373944thought-""language"" would be the best way to describe it.
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>>41374007Because you would like to "hear" how an argument sounds before saying it? Haven't you ever practiced public speaking? Don't you refine your thoughts? Don't you mentally evaluate the words of others?I carry the voices of my closest friends with me and I can recall the things they've said to me, especially if they have told me I need to work on something. Replaying their words and ruminating on them is no different than calling up your own past thoughts.And no, I don't do this all the time - but thinking in terms of specific language is useful for me because we live in a world of communication.
>>41373909>Did you cough up a hairball there anon?Kek
>>41374059but those are just memories. just because you remember what they sound like doesn't mean you hear their voice, it just means you know what is and isn't their voice, and what they said and didn't say. you even say you don't do this all the time, so you know you inherently have the capacity to conceive of thoughs, you just like using language because you find communication, which was an answer I was looking for.
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Do any of you guys ever say "holy mcdicknuggetballsass batman" in your inner monologue? I do a lot. Its fun you should try it....I mean your walkin...walking along then you see an inch worm hanging from a tree....you guessed it queue up a "holymcdicknuggetballsass batman".mp4.googlesdocs
>>41374095>just because you remember what they sound like doesn't mean you hear their voiceThat's why it's called internal? You can picture all kinds of ideas, you can think, argue, or say things in your mind. Why is the monologue so hard to fathom? I just pictured myself asking you this in a perfect donald duck voice.
>>41374277I really don't know, I can't be inside you're head, i don't know if you're actually just thinking, imagining, or something else entirely. what I know is that you know you're having a monologue. I know what's going on in my head and I know that I'm not having monologue with my self.I can't make myself experience external stimuli, I can't experience external qualia with internal stimulation. all i know is that I'm not hearing, or seeing, or smelling, or tasting, hell even feeling isn't a right word, I'm only sensing what's going on in my head.
>>41373844>>41373740I used both , because I see worlds as a type of thought .its like a zip phile.
>>41373844>but why do you have one?all thinking takes the form of memory recall, all thinking exists because you are confused about something you have discovered>language is only a tool for communicating thoughts externallythe process of composing language can be gamified to refine ones language composing processes. this is the mistake your making, you think inner monologue is communication, its praticing the process of composing language
>>41374325You're not going to hear the words as spoken through your ears, it's more like imagining yourself saying something but not saying it out loud. You can do this is whatever voice you want, but usually your own. When you think about a delicious apple, do you not imagine a shiny red apple with some cold water drops on it? Do you not imagine the difference in sourness between the red and green ones? Do you simply crave a slice of pizza without visualising the ham and molten cheese bubbling in the oven?Have you never seen a fat person shopping and caught yourself thinking "oh, you're buying Pepsi huh, big surprise from a big fat blob"? How do you think? If someone asks you to draw a circle, how can you draw it without visualising it in your head first?Are you telling me you can look at a picture of the burger king crown man and not hear his exact voice shout the word in your thoughts?
>>41374051 Not having an inner monologue is for trashniggers and low-iq people in general. Suits you just fine then.
>>41373740Yes I do, when I read this post I formulated the response in my mind "yes I do", before typing out "yes I do".
>>41373740i have a monologue, i visualize things, I think without a monologue as well sometimes (normal physical logic problems, mathmatics, basic functioning etc). I assumed all these things are normal. But I guess the more random shit i hear its not.
I do but most of the time it's pretty quiet in here. I'm a quiet person so I guess that explains it.
>>41374051I trust the council. They would never leave me astray.
