How do we exist? Further more why do we exist? To exist or not to exist?I feel as though to find the answer to this you would need to access pre-intellecual metaphysics that intrinsically in and of its self is existence. That profound depth that is Bythos. And there the answer lies and the logos and reasoning become that which is us. Its is you. You exist for existence. You are the key you are the lock. Beyond the door there is something more.
Existence is inevitable
>>41381361In order to have a reason for existence, that reason has to exist. If that reason exists it means existence exists. The only answer that could break the loop of needing existence for existence is that there is no fucking reason. It just is.
>>41381572Your brain is mush dude. That doesn’t make sense.
>>41381583Sorry I forgot the average IQ of this board is 80.>Question: what is the reason for existence.Possible answers: there is a reason, there isn't.1. If there is a reason, that reason has to exist.2. If that reason exists, it means it is inside existence.3. What is the reason for that reason's existence?4. Go back to 1.The only way to break that infinite loop is to assume there is no reason.
>>413813611. As a result of prior causes.2. Because creating the universe is a necessary act for God to be true to himself.3. An impossibility. It is impossible not to exist. You may choose to exist as a corpse or a memory or even a forgotten nobody, but you can't stop existing, even long after you die and your skeleton turns to dust.
>>41381656>Sorry I forgot the average IQ of this board is 80.No, you're actually just retarded. And possibly narcissistic.>>41381656>What is the reason for that reason's existence?Consciousness. You're just asking why God/Source/Intelligence chooses to be something rather nothing.
>>41381361It's all a mystery. Read Osho.
>>41381721>cosciousness exists outside of existence>rephrasing it as "god" being the reason for existence>can't even follow the fucking steps I outlinedWhy the fuck are always the abrahamists the most retarded people everywhere I go?
>>41381767>cosciousness exists outside of existenceyes, dipshit>rephrasing it as "god" being the reason for existenceIt's not rephrasing it's bridging the gap in your lack of logic.>abrahamistsRetard confirmed. Meditate on why you can't converse with others about "God" without your monkey brain immediately jumping to "this must be a Christian or Muslim".
>>41381777In muslim eschatology lore there are beings with superior knowledge wandering the earthI hope to meet those for lessons
>>41381790Not talking jinns i mean people
>>41381777Creationist retards are all the same, only the flavor changes. Of course you will see that there is a lack of "god" in my logic, because for you there MUST be a sky daddy to create everything.
>>41381797Yes people not jinnsDas rite
>>41381799There must be a realm of ideas where your reason "exists" outside of physical existence. This realm of ideas can only exist within a Mind. It's not just 1 person's mind so it must be a universal mind.But you're Jewish JIDF desk monkey so it doesn't matter what anyone tells you here.
>>41381817Existence encompasses physical and non-physical you funcking mongoloid. It's literally everything that exists, not only what you can see or touch, including your sky daddy.
>>41381361There's only one explanation. There is no state of non-existance. Non-existance is impossible. The dycotomy is just bipedal ape-brain night/day right/left up/down male/female, trying to figure out things from an anthropic way of thinking.
>>41381835God it's like talking to a 5 year old.Where, in your pea brain worldview, does "reason" exist?
>>41381845I can't believe I have to actually write this out, how the fuck can you even type on a keyboard with this level of mental retardation is beyond meIf it """""EXISTS""""" it is inside of """""EXIST"""""ence
>>41381869>If it """""EXISTS""""" it is inside of """""EXIST"""""enceChrist in heaven. I meant specifically where in existence do you believe reason exists?
>>41381876Who the fuck cares where in existence it is? The question is about existence itself, not about its internal elements.
>>41381889I was attempting to walk you through the logic but you're just angry and probably jewish. Good luck asshat.
>>41381583When you stop assuming that reality must be this or that way, and get rid of literally all assumptions, and entertain the possibility that causality and logic are not fundamental things, then it actually becomes easy to explain why this universe exists. If causality doesn’t exist, then things can exist without a cause, including universes in which causality does exist. Hope that helps.
>>41381945meds, I'm not the OP
>>41381361>How do we exist?God's whim. The sat principle is that of eternal existence.>why do we exist?God's whim to be truly infinite and all-inclusive, and for God's enjoyment.>To exist or not to exist?this is not a choice you can make. You exist. You have always existed, and you will always exist.You are eternal, as you are an infinitesimal part of the Infinite, Eternal God.
>>41381799>Creationist retardsNothing with cognizable parts or structure can be uncreated.
>>41381876Spatiotemporal existence is illusory. There is no 'where' or 'when' in the ultimate reality.
I thought and thought. Teetering on the edge nihilism thinking that there is no meaning to this life so it was better off not to exist. Then wisdom spoke in silence making it clear. From source of creation which gave the seed of life sprouted raw conciousness, from there sprouted intellect, then thought, the logos, then wisdom, etc. I pondered on standing in meditation. Depth and profoundnuity precedes the things before all of us. Like a hand reaching to help a benefactor touched my conciousness breaking it down to a frequency which I could witness unfiltered. I was not alone for several others were with us. I was existence and existence was me, in there was a love an understanding. I exist because of I. Not little old me. A higher Self which was more than I. You can at the very least live for yourself. that first and high emination which proceeds from the uneffible, unutterable, source from which all things spawned is you. We made ourselves and come from on high. Its all you. You exist for yourself. To go beyond this profound depth which must have existed before other eminations of intellect/ mind/thinker; one would cease to be you. One stops becomming and God starts becomming. My time was brief I just felt as though I had found my answer to purpose of existence in existence itself a pure higher conciousness which we all share. An innate reasoning through only experience not mind could shed light on. Its all for you. How? Through God. Why? You are existence conciousness. Dare I say gods. Children of the Most High. Then deep real and tangible metaphysics that out of rational and natural reactions formed creating more emination spiraling down to this reality we live in here. The universe and its laws.I pondered on now; essence precedes existence. But what if existence preeceeded essences even in a world of pure reason and forms. What if we are not just essences but each a perspective if even the firm of conciousness must precede the form of essence. Precreation.
"I am He. There is no other."
