People call him "The Devil", others call it Satan/Lucifer, and according to some people they are different. But there is so much confussion, like if Lucifer and the Devil are different then hell always existed? Ever since I discovered Moloch, that one entity that they sacrifice kids to, I have been calling the Devil "Moloch Baal" (Even knowing its inaccurate). After seeing an interview with an ex high ranking satanist he said that the devil wanted abortions which fits Moloch.And knowing Aliens exist my biggest question its if the Devil is universal/Omniversal or we are the only mofos that have to deal with him.And to finish, I "affectionately" call him Mold Bach, every time he lingers on my mind (and he often does) I imagine him in a wheelchair, with an enemy of his carrying the wheelchair. He hates the Omniverse and has a pet lizard, which of he dreams will conquer the Omniverse with an army of lizards.
>>41381739Moloch/Remphan/Chiun = SaturnLucifer/Ishtar/Inanna = VenusBaal/Baal Hammon/Sin/ = Luna
They made up the story of death camp ovens as a distraction from what they have been doing since Carthage and Judea.And once again, Carthage must be destroyed, lest the entire world continue to be sacrificed.
>>41381739>basically
>>41381739some galaxies spin retrograde to others. So, the 'devil' like effect can scale that high and potentially higher in the universe.. opposite spin of up is down.. it's necessary for creation but you still must climb up. Canaanites use down spin and opposite thus why right to left.. muslims too.. babylonians for spells in the abyss. There's your #1 sign right there. Also, Saturn has this retrograde effect on our planetary system.. who tool'd it out the most. Egyptians btw considered this all evil and instead were working out how to spiral the soul upward into the cosmos.
>>41381739sacrificing to moloch is a metaphorical egregore we all sacrifice to moloch, your vietnamese clothesthe dollar bill in your pocketthe job you workYOU ARE A SACRIFICE TO MOLOCH YOU FUCKING SHEEP
>>41382359So, you're telling me i'm indirectly entangled with the faggot in the abyss moloch? So, i can go down there and strangle him and destroy his false thrones? Cool. thnx for the memo.
the devil is atrocity. in all forms. a spiritual form of violence, and bestial nature elevated and justified for the good of society or the group. the devil is just the personification of atrocity.
>>41381739>And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.The Devil is a spirit that acts universally to cause sin, he doesn’t have just one body or being. His angels are the localized entities (beings) like Moloch, Hammon, Marduk, Inanna, etc. Those beings are animated egregores—what starts as a mass thoughtform is given “life” and presence by imbuing a soul to it through human sacrifice. Specifically the “gods” were animated by sacrificed kings. Very rarely were kings sacrificed, only when the “god” of the land needed a new regal soul in the driver’s seat, say when the soul previously in charge of the godform finally departs to his own afterlife. Lesser demons are created in a similar way by the sacrifice of regular people, but without the organized worship of a state cult behind them those egregores tend not to be nearly as powerful as the “gods.” In pagan societies built around state cults, you had a handful of very powerful demons in charge of the whole nation. In shamanistic societies built around distributed ancestor worship, you had many thousands or millions of very weak demons with very limited agency.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoI2C6pW9AQ
>>41382604So a divine monarchy is just a god's battery charger sacrifice? Is that why they deified pharaohs and other leaders like Washington's apotheosis mural?
>>41382651Yes and yes
If Jesus didn't send an angel to stop the church's actions that dishonored his name, and instead miracles were performed periodically through icons, idols, and apparitions of Mary, does that mean he was okay with burning people alive for religious reasons? You can find documented miracles during times when the church perpetrated atrocities.
Baalshamin(Baʿal Šāmayīm) aka Samyaza aka Shamhazai. There are at least three Fallen, let's not forget that Nimrod is a late Fallen and 1. he was not an ordinary person 2. he became a Gibor (in short, they planted snakes in him, I won't go into detail)Samyaza or Aza or Ouza I have the impression that this also sounds similar to Zeus. Notice the similarity between Zeus, Zahhak, Samyaza, Tamkhazay, Uzzaza, Azazel. This appears everywhere: zeu, zaza, uzaza, zeo, etc.
>>41382976I'll add that azzi means snake.Azzie zakhhak (dahak) means wolf to snake (a strange combination, but that's what it looks like. Amatersu was also described as an astral fox dragon. Slavic fire serpent. Dacian dragon. Chinese dragons also resemble this combination. Although even a ordinary european dragon has a stylized dog's head).They were also described as having peacock wings, which can be seen in many old depictions of dragons when the legend was still alive. They had many dots and eyes on their wings, reminiscent of a peacock. This later disappeared, and dragons are no longer depicted this way.
Satan = MolochMoloch = YahveYahve = DemiurgeDemiurge = Satan
Oh, finally, an appropriate thread in which to pose this inquiry, sparing me the strain of creating a new thread of my own. >keep encountering the number 666 literally everywhere>not even joking, I'm talking EVERYWHERE>last three numbers of my cell are 666>credit score is 666>numbers I get on receipts or scores I manage to reach in video games all end in or outright complete to 666>Waiting numbers I get at places like Mcdonald's are 666>etcPrithee, what does it fucking MEAN?
>>41383018Out of joking long time ago I remember that watching a video of Moloch Baal I was recommended a video where a woman explained that Moloch was Yahweh. I watched the video and was mentally screwed.The argument was that "Moloch" meant "Melek" which would turn it into "The king." And it was argued that this was a way to refer to Yahweh. The proof is that there was a part of the bible refering to Yahweh where it actually is "The king." Ehen talking about Moloch it sounded a lot like it was Yahweh saying that you shouldn't give him kids. But something that I find confusing is that if this is true then why would the Jews insult their own God by altering his name to "Shame" and that there are also other parts where this theory seems weird, like in the "Tarbenacle of Moloch" by Jeremiah. The tabernacle was to worship Yahweh so it is redundant to say "of Moloch/Of the king."
>>41382976I think it all goes back to Anzu or Zu the storm bird who stole the tablets of destiny. This was probably when Jupiter's worship supplanted Saturn's and in later cultures' myths Enlil/Kronos was robbed/usurped by the storm god who by that point was depicted as the humanistic ZUes. The Anzu was a giant flying eagle with the head of a great cat that exhaled fire and lightning storms..... it was a dragon. PaZUzu was also depicted like this and said to control storms.
>>41383251If you haven't figured it out yet, Anzu is Garuda and Vucub CaquixHe later became the symbol of the chief god. Nimrod, the same Ninurta, and Anzu became his symbol after Ninurta defeated Anzu (I saw a legend where Ninurta allegedly split Anzu's head in two, which is where the two-headed bird symbol came from). Ninurta is connected with Krishna and Balarama.
>>41381739Satan is the opposer. We are told to turn from the transient/temporal to the eternal/invisible. If you zoom into anything far enough it is just blinking in and out. If you have an emotion or thought that is movement subject to beginning and end. All of this appears within the stillness of awareness as if opposing it.
>>41382336This is what I imagined him to be like.
>>41381739>himhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPHyR92MQic&pp=0gcJCQMKAYcqIYzv
>>41383282>(I saw a legend where Ninurta allegedly split Anzu's head in two, which is where the two-headed bird symbol came from)Kek very interesting, I almost posted a double-headed eagle picrel instead. Iirc it's Revelations that calls the high temple of Jupiter at Pergamos the earthly seat of Satan. Zeus was depicted as reptilian and was called the Agathos Daimon, the good spirit, which implies his fortunate or charitable nature distinctinguished him from others of his kind. Glaucus would also be called this and depicted as a giant serpent like Lucifer would be, who was also either extolled or shunned for their charity of knowledge vs. others of their kind.
>>41382359The job you work for the dollar in your pocket is actually Mammon-adjacent
>>41383398I'm honestly tired (really tired) of talking about reptiles and dragons in every thread, but Zeus was a dragon; in the mysteries, he took the form of a serpent(More precisely, all the gods acquired this appearance.), and in the form of a dragon, he conceived Dionysus. The Slavic Perun was also described as a huge serpent. But they could also take human form. Indra could also transform into snakes. Basically, the most mentioned creatures in all religions, myths, fairy tales, and legends of the peoples of the world are dragons and intelligent snakes, and they always have the ability to somehow transform into humans and other creatures.boards.4chan.org/x/thread/41317085/boards.4chan.org/x/thread/41319648>People around Baal Hermon were devoted to snake worship and were subsequently called Hivites, from Hivia, "serpent." Ancient authors say that there were many Baltória (Beth-el, the house of God) on Hermon and Mount Lebanon...>Fallen angels make a pact on Mount Hermon. Among the pagans, it was a place of oaths; there are remains of temples and hints of fallen remains there.>Anunnaki were associated with Hermon in Sumero-Akkadian mythology.>Phoenicians considered the mountains in Lebanon divine.>Philo's Phoenician History states that Thoth-Hermes-Mercury founded the mysteries, confused myths (He instructed the priests to mix myths and history, gods, with natural phenomena, planets, stars, so that it was no longer possible to understand where the truth lies. Symbols, allegories, parables, signs—Mercury introduced this tradition, the same practice is practiced by Freemasons) and history, and introduced the worship of snakes and dragons, calling them benevolent deities and rulers of the universehttp://www.bibleorigins.net/Pre-biblicalOriginsofEdensSerpentinMesopotamianMyths.htmlhttp://www.bibleorigins.net/SerpentNingishzidaBibliography.html
>>41383845https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Goa%27uldChristians (hidden dualists) immediately think of a dragon as the devil, and apparently they don't understand that only God could have created them. I've forgotten the name of the story (legend), but there was a medieval scripture about a certain king (?) who supposedly killed dragons and also breathed fire (like Cuchulainn, conceived by Lugh's kelpie). These are simply creatures, like they're not all bad. If we assume there are many worlds, then the sons of god could be intelligent non-human beings sent from other dimensions to help people, but things didn't go according to plan.There were so many Fallen that it's really pointless to analyze them. Well, among the pagan gods and heroes, there were probably some who were accidentally deified by humans themselves (meaning the heroes and civilizers didn't ask for their deification, but humans did) and normal messengers, but it's very difficult to distinguish between them. Zoroastrian devas/divs, and even Islamic ones, were accused of abducting women and people in general, something the Greek gods did all the time. So, yes, they did seem to help people, and there were many dragon-slayer heroes among them, but they were all ambiguous (though people themselves are ambiguous), and it was difficult to determine who was fallen and who was not.>In The Book of Giants, Shemyaza (or Šahmīzād in the Manichaean version) begets two sons, who together battle Leviathan. However, they are not portrayed as heroic, but as boasting about their own victory; a symbol of royal failure to keep one's power in this world. After the defeat of the Leviathan, Shemyaza and his offspring are slain by the four punishing angelsYes, fallen but heroes(once upon a time). It's not that simple. Iblis was normal in the beginning too.
>>41383845>>41383910>According to many of them, before Adam was created, the jinn, offspring of al-Jānn (الجان), lived on earth. First they were obedient, but over time immorality increased and, when they became infidels, God sent an army of angels, headed by Iblis, called "al-Jinn" (named after paradise, not the genus) to defeat them.These angels were created from nār as-samūm, while the rest of the angels from light, and the genus of jinn from mārijin min nār (smokeless fire)
>>41383845>>41383910>>41383919en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-JānnThe strangest thing is that Islam has a legend that several generations of creatures inhabited the earth before humans, but this coincides, for example, with the five eras in Greek mythology and the five suns of Native American peoples. So, humans aren't exactly exceptional. After all, they're fairies, giants, gnomes, and so on. Perhaps they're not from other dimensions, but creatures that inhabited our earth before humans. Perhaps that's why there are so many legends about various creatures trying to kill, deceive, or eat humans. Perhaps they hate humans. Huldufólk, hidden creatures. They exist, but in another dimension, a mirror? Or a parallel one. Remember the incident in the Miami mall when people saw strange creatures floating in the air, then suddenly shifting. I think this is related.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Féth_fíadaIt's really not worth working with them. People think they'll get some kind of profit from all these incomprehensible human beings, but they have to pay for those profits themselves.
>>41381739Satan just means "Opposer". It is one that is put in your way to stop you from doing something, it is used in many contexts in the Bible, including an angel and even with Jesus against Peter when Peter told him not to give himself up for Crucifixion.
>>41384169Would that mean that everyone has their Satan? Like a nemesis?
>>41383535it links back to Saturn anyway
>>41381739Satan is a title. Lucifer is a title. The Devil is also a title. That's where the confusion comes from. Anyone can be a satan to someonelse. If you are my ennemy then you are satan to me. Get it? Lucifer is a title. Jesus is called Lucifer. "Satan" was Lucifer at some point as well. The Devil is less open to interpretation. The Devil indicates the most evil spirit there is, the evil one.
>>41382662Dagon isn't a fish god. Nimrod is our guy.
>>41382336magic school bus.>magic school.magic = flase leadership/ indoconationschoolbus = coverted and tagged along>all kidspedo empire. it was a book i read.it was adventure but it was in slavery like submission they do not see silence to be left alone not nice but slavery they hate you.all laws are t5o force conecent that ecvi and you go to hell using this coveting version they thinkn salvery gives them fr ee dom but you always have a choicebut out side of their slavery is truth and reality
>>41382997They sound very pretty.
>>41381739>>41381739>I imagine him in a wheelchair, with an enemy of his carrying the wheelchair. He hates the Omniverse and has a pet lizard, which of he dreams will conquer the Omniverse with an army of lizards.Yep. Nocturne was a good game.https://youtu.be/jfqe779mTVg
>>41389026Its scary how accurate this is to the mental image I had. Even the woman dressed in black clothes resembles they guy I imagined as his enemy.
Redpill me on the 7 sages of india, greece and sumer (apkallu). Are they the "fallen angels" or what?
"The Devil"/Satan/etc. doesn't exist.Religion is a mental illness, kids. Don't do it.