Wells' most famous novel was a hundred years ahead of its time. 99% of people have read one of the abridged editions since for some reason most copies of the story aren't even marked abridged when they are.Wells wrote nonfiction and had an extremely calculated and technical style. Some of the sentence structure is wildly creative, it really shows how much of genius he was. All sorts of details in the original never survived into any of the adaptations. Ironically one of the most lore-accurate retellings was in the 1998 RTS based on the Jeff Wayne musical. The book was dumbed down severely to emphasize its colonial asymmetry themes. But in the OG Wells explicitly discusses all kinds of concepts that wouldn't emerge in science for around a hundred years. This was also very specific stuff, not just generalizations.>Aliens use biomimetic machines with neural interfaces that perfectly match their body movements>Predicts that Darwinist principles can be overcome with tech, which is genetic engineering and there was no model of molecular science for another ~100 years>The Martians are heavily implied to be related to humans, either based on a "common ancestor" that colonized both planets or breakaway humans that went to mars millennia ago and had advanced tech. This is also why the ending doesn't make sense in the abridged versions. Because you don't have the context that the Martian physiology directly interfaces with human physiology and thus they are uniquely vulnerable.>Accurately described a hydrogen light gas gun launch from mars with feasible transport pod designs and realistic levels of landing site selection accuracy. The original book goes into detail on exact distances and formations the pods landed inIt's criminal that WotW is heralded as one of the most influential works of scifi ever, if not the first true scifi because of its balance of social, civilizational and environmental themes, while people miss the most thought provoking parts.
Here's the original text on gutenberg:https://www.gutenberg.org/files/36/36-h/36-h.htm>No one would have believed in the last years of the nineteenth century that this world was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than man’s and yet as mortal as his own; that as men busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. With infinite complacency men went to and fro over this globe about their little affairs, serene in their assurance of their empire over matter. It is possible that the infusoria under the microscope do the same. No one gave a thought to the older worlds of space as sources of human danger, or thought of them only to dismiss the idea of life upon them as impossible or improbable. It is curious to recall some of the mental habits of those departed days. At most terrestrial men fancied there might be other men upon Mars, perhaps inferior to themselves and ready to welcome a missionary enterprise. Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us. And early in the twentieth century came the great disillusionment.
>>41385079>the most thought provoking partsYou only mentioned hylic things.
>>41385129Do I really have to state "Wells was drawing from the akashic records" to get the point across lmaoNot everything paranormal is occult. If you have some insight on occult themes in Wells books why not share them?The Time Machine has some pretty interesting convergent events around it, like how the production of the 2002 film required the FX studio to develop the JPEG compression format to store the work files needed for the time machine's effects.
>>41387619Villanoob is such a retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo4yC_UxUVEHere's most of /x/
>>41387636The album is imaginative in so many ways just like the original story, it's wild that so much talent and skill goes into one property like this.It's been what, 130 years and everyone still knows the story, people get excited for new adaptations and the musical is objectively one of the most iconic albums period.That's a lot of space in the collective consciousness occupied by a 19th century scifi story. Not even Clarke or Asimov's stories have anything close to that kind of staying power.
>>41385079>The Martians are heavily implied to be related to humans, either based on a "common ancestor" that colonized both planets or breakaway humans that went to mars millennia ago and had advanced tech.When did he imply that?Also did you like war of the worlds: Goliath?
I still hate most adaptations do not show them as vampiric tentacle aliens.
>>41385166More hylic blather.
>More hylic blather.
>>41388611>i can only discuss vague concepts since I have no awareness of history, literature or context
>>41388019>“Their undeniable preference for men as their source of nourishment is partly explained by the nature of the remains of the victims they had brought with them as provisions from Mars. These creatures, to judge from the shrivelled remains that have fallen into human hands, were bipeds with flimsy, silicious skeletons (almost like those of the silicious sponges) and feeble musculature, standing about six feet high and having round, erect heads, and large eyes in flinty sockets. Two or three of these seem to have been brought in each cylinder, and all were killed before earth was reached. It was just as well for them, for the mere attempt to stand upright upon our planet would have broken every bone in their bodies.”So they brought a separate bipedal species of martians with them who have a more human appearance and even have bones. Purely as a food source.Now realize that the martians feed by blood transfusion, so all nutrients in their food source's bloodstream have to be biologically available. The context that the martians are genetically enhancing themselves is a big clue that these livestock creatures are also genetically engineered, probably created with the intent of being livestock.This is the interpretation the 1998 RTS uses as well. You can see in the opening cutscene that they test weapons on these same livestock creatures they will later use on the humans. https://youtu.be/fKQvjSlBGNMThey inexplicably use human blood to feed. They don't use blood from any other terrestrial creature, just human. I don't think any of this was an accident.When you put this into context with what Wells' son said about his father's inspiration the pieces come together. He said WotW was a direct continuation of the ideas in the Time Machine, where humans in the distant future become something else entirely with the assistance of technology.>GoliathI didn't watch that. Seems similar in premise to the The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen's treatment.
>>41388524The og design is really good. Being transhuman vampires that rely on technology to survive is also pretty spooky shit
I'm out of the loop, what movies were made from Wells books? >>41385166What's this from?Did wells create 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea or is that someone else?
>>41393485>I'm out of the loop, what movies were made from Wells books?The Matrix is the most notable one. But in the original story the humans are hooked up to steam engines instead of computers. It was a criticism against the industrial revolution.
>>41394213Were the any other difference between movie and the book? Also were any other movie made out of his books?
>>41393485>>41394213>>41394224
>>41393485Jules Verne wrote 20,000 Leagues.
>>41385079>>41385118Thank you so much man
>>41393485The Invisible Man and The Time Machine.
>>41393485>>41394340This timeline never had a Matrix novel from the early 20th century
>>41394431Jules Verne also had access to the Akashic Records btw.
>>41396832Everyone does. They used to call it 'creativity' before art was a consumer commodity
>>41395164No problem. You see this kind of thing play out with a lot of "popular" properties like Orwell too; everyone is told what to think about the story and in doing so they never apply their own critical thinking and context.
>>41396832Quite a few writers did.Particularly the ones renowned for how much their work resonates with people.Tolkien is a good example of this. What is it that most people say they love about the stories? Is it the royal lore and world building, the fueling and feeding of the imagination? Or is it that somehow the books feel real, alive, factual, and like a memory we've forgotten about?He may have used Britain and European archetypes to display the stories, such visual themes to give it structure, but the core of the lore comes right out of a real life Tolkien himself might have lived tens of thousands of years ago.
>>41390703>shriveled remains>bipeds with flimsy, silicious skeletons>feeble musculature>round yet erect heads (tall heads)>large eyes in flinty (very dark sharp-edged) socketsThe fucking Greys, anon.
>>41390703>the martians feed by blood transfusionthats him hinting at adrenochrome usage, everyone knows its the strongest drug ever known and that the body needs more and more in order to survive. this ties real nice with the idea that the ancient elites were the ones who left earth for mars during an event and now are back in order to replenish their adrenochrome source he even hints this in the time machine where the tunnel dwelling rulers "eat" only young humans instead of letting them grow old and eat them whenever , its because the younger you are the stronger your produced adrenochrome
>>41395491>The Invisible ManI think there was some movie on that (the main bad guy from spider man 1 played the main role in that movie), but there might've also been a TV series
>>41397045Oh yeah. It integrates perfectly into the whole 'greys are future humans' idea perfectly. Interesting that exsanguination is a constant theme in cattle mutilations too.
>>41397168I'm not sure if they're "overadvanced humans" though.I think those Greys are grown in vats for consumption, not genetically enhanced into anything. Maybe even genetically degraded, through engineering. Reduced, instead of advanced.The concept of drinking blood is interesting as well.If these other creatures can't produce their own hemoglobin, they would need an infusion from somewhere else.Perhaps they got so sick from whatever mistake they made in the past that they've become completely dependent on blood transfusions, for which they can harvest those Greys.>then why exsanguinationDoesn't the mouth of those cows and people look like it's been sucked off? As in, vacuum-pulled clear? Like a vacuum cleaner sucks air?Maybe they were testing for compatibility. If our blood isn't compatible, we can't be harvested.If animal blood here makes them sick, the animals can't be harvested.If I'm not mistaken, the 2005 movie War of the Worlds said just like other versions that bacteria, germs from the wild killed the Martians, but in the original story it was bacteria and germs in the human blood they drank.Our blood was incompatible with them, and it killed them.Wouldn't it be strange if they needed blood to be a certain veiny, coagulated, structured way in order to consume it?Like a silicious material that's growing inside people's arteries? Not everyone's? Just the vaccinated arteries?What if the jab wasn't meant to kill anyone, but to make them ready for dinner?
>>41394213>>41394224>Matrix was originally a book written by H.G. Wells... what the fuck? Did I slip through timelines without noticing again?
>>41397811>Like a silicious material that's growing inside people's arteries? Not everyone's? Just the vaccinated arteries?>What if the jab wasn't meant to kill anyone, but to make them ready for dinner?The kill and cancer rates are too high if the material is meant to feed the ayys.Cancer rates because eating cancerous meat is crazy carcinogenic, assuming terran physiology of course.Kill rates because there won't be a lot of humans left when they arrive. Unless they're already walking among us.
>>41397811Just to be clear since this is part of my point; they aren't drinking blood. That implies they would digest it for nutrients. They inject it into their bloodstream. The idea behind this would be your prey animal eats and its bloodstream saturates with sugars and and other metabolic products, then the martian extracts that food value by absorbing it from its own bloodstream. So the martian has a normal human biology when it comes to using the nutrients available in blood except they lack any digestive system. Presumably they would excrete any waste products on their skin... As ammonia... Which also tracks with them being described as "wet.">Our blood was incompatible with them, and it killed them.This is one of those things that I think we've misinterpreted in the adaptations. There are tons of animal bloodborne diseases and pathogens that are harmless to humans because our body won't touch them. But a martian who has been in a sterile society and environment for thousands of years would be highly immunocompromised by our standards. Basic diseases that were widespread at the time like syphilis and herpes could be fatal. But again these things are only harmful if the martian biology was more similar to a humans' then even most mammalian life.I don't think this was an accident. There are too many ultra-specific explanations Wells gives that lead you to this conclusion.
>>41385079Very interesting, thanks, I had no idea. What's an RTS?
>>41398708Real time strategy game. It's a bit of a cult classic and was directly based on the Jeff Wayne album.https://youtu.be/-KuM_HWs1lA
>>41398819https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Wayne%27s_The_War_of_the_Worlds_(1998_video_game)Is this the only game, or are there others?
Wells imagined a universe in which evolution never occurred apparently. The viruses and bacteria that we arose from, the viscous violent evolving genetic microcosm does not also pre date the aliens arising from a similar virus/bacteria/water-bear world? It was 30 years between Darwin publishing On The Origin of Species, bacteria and virus were known. Microscopes existed.How would the aliens build space travel tech without knowledge that optics works to magnify and study bacterial and viral life.WTF did the aliens evolve from Wells?WHAT WAS THE ALIENS TAX PLAN WELLS?!?!?!!
>ywn play cricket and build heat rays underground
This book is not about nature or science. It is a spiritual reflection on how the Materialist man is a demon from another 'world'. Two lines in particular stick out. One is the first sentence>that as men busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. This is how jews treat spermatazoa once they observed them wriggling. And near the end of Chatper two regarding the discovery of "Creatures from Another world"Wells writes, and I quote. >The newspaper articles had prepared men’s minds for the reception of the idea.Does this sound familiar? Don't get on the ships bro.
>>41399754Man is born in freedom but he soon becomes a slaveIn cages of convention from the cradle to the graveThe weak fall by the wayside but the strong will be savedIn a brave new world...
>>41399060There was another that used the Jeff Wayne license but it was more obscure, I think it was on playstation? It was an on rails shooter. There were also a movie games made from the Tom Cruise film. And a platformer in 2011 based on the 1950s film on xbox.It is the most adapted scifi property ever behind Frankenstein.
