Hello /x/I have been wondering lately. What if I naturemaxx?I have close to me a very good land with enough wilderness to explore it indefinitely and have practically free reign there. I can move there, rent is cheap and houses, while run down, can be made livable.What I want to know is, can I live off going full into herbalism and into foraging specific herbs and making products out of them like tonics, pomades, natural herb teas, etc?Maybe opening a small shop with natural remedies and all that. Or selling stuff online.I have the magical knowledge to make my products legit, and all I would need would be to find the best herbs and combination in the area and just go there and look for them.How delusional would it be to expect to make a living out of it?
>>41403559shops aren't naturalselling stuff online is not naturalselling stuff is not naturalall you're doing is larpmaxxing
>>41403615>living off your work is not naturalI just want to find a way to live a life that lets me spend time in nature and use my knowledge.Having to work 5 days a week to be able to do what actually makes me feel that what I do is meaningful is way less natural than using electromagnetic communication to find someone who is willing to pay money for a tincture made with foraged herbs.
>>41403634work for pay is not naturalthe deer doesn't gather leaves to exchange for acornsthe mountain lion doesn't show her teats to strangers online in exchange for meatyou're etsymaxxing at best
>>41403559I say go for it.>>41403615>>41403655Who cares?
>>41403655Well, that just tells me I am not a deer or lion.Just suppose we go through all the conversation where the conclusion is we are humans living in a human society and as such we have to fucking eat and surviving eating grass or doing photosyntesis is not realistic.I don't care if the means through wich I sustain my lifestyle are as close to a wild animal living in nature as possible. What I want is to do what I like and make enough money to survive. I am asking if that is realistic, not if it is natural.
>>41403677you care enough to respondand i care enough to respondso clearly we both carewhat is your next response to say you don't care?>>41403709hunting and foraging is natural for humansetsymaxxing for money is realisticbut no it's not naturemaxxingso don't call it naturemaxxing
>>41403733>don't call this made up situation a madeup term to explain in one word your goal instead of using a wall of text to explain it
>>41403753>blah blah blah and then some more blah because blahgreentext is not natural
>>41403762Well if you're so focused on what is fucking natural go to the fucking forest, throw your clothes into a creek and pray a fucking satyr rapes your ass or something idk what are you doing in a fucking vietnamese mushroom cooking forum
>>41403775im not obsessed with being naturalim just pointing out you're not "naturemaxxing"you could've called it wizardmaxxingbut either way you're a poser
tell me what you plan on calling your etsy potion storei want to tell everyone i know to avoid youmaybe even call the fda on you out of spite
>>41403795I don't give a fuck if I am a poser jfc I just want to not slave away in corporate hell for the priviledge of having food on a goddamn plate and a roof to sleep under you fucking mongoloid what is so hard to understandI don't even understand what is your problem, do you hate the fact that I am trying to find a way to live a life closer to nature instead of being a corporate drone? Why would you focus on tecnicalities that are not even related to the question I was asking?
>>41403733I think it’s important to encourage OP in his endeavors since they seem healthy and spiritually stimulating, especially in contrast to the usual doom and gloom posting and apocalyptic hysteria that goes on around here.If he wants to become an Etsy witch then that seems like it would be more rewarding than wageslaving until he dies alone in his apartment at 55 or some shit, even if it’s just some personal sentimental thing for him.
If your only feedback is “it’s not natural” then whatever, you’ve already said it like 3 times. We get it, you don’t approve. Move on.
I think it’s a good thing that he wants to spend more time outside. He should do that. That’s healthy. It’s also cool that he might be able to make money from his hobby.
>>41403811It's not going to be a magic potion store. I am talking about legit herbalism. Not even gonna mention the magic part, that would be private and just used to make my remedies as useful as possible for whoever buys them.My plan is to just do natural remedies by using all the knowledge accumulated through the centuries before the Rockefeller Foundation decided to build a pharmaceutic empire by patenting chemicals extracted from those same plants.
>>41403861seriously? read this crap >>41403848he's neither healthy nor spiritually stimulatingeverybody hates their life in some waybut you don't see me trying to hawk homemade beef tallow and calling it naturemaxxing
>>41403922I don’t care what he calls it. You do.
>>41403938yeah no duh i carethat's why i bring it upif you don't care then move on
>>41403922Well, nobody around me sells homemade beef tallow and I would actually pay for it if it was available, and I would appreciate someone doing it. Do you get a kick frlm using low quality oils from corporations?
>>41403559Its a hard existence. The average person requires about 5 acres of land to grow their own foods and maintain health.Agriculture is demanding, and animal husbandry takes a lot of time. Overplan and expect failures, with 70% success rate as your goal if using organic processes
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>>41403952no i live in a van down by the riveri collect coconuts and make coconut oili call it hobomaxxing
>>41403954My plan is to immerse myself fully into herbalism and use it as income to survive. That's what I was curious about if it is realistic or not. I do have the possibility of growing some herbs but most of them will have to be foraged. I do not plan on having animals or growing other crops.
>>41403979Yeah some people make a living doing this. Just expect failure and losses.
>>41403956yeah nah but you're not listeningop is gonna be one of those organic boutique brandsthat's somehow better than corporate gouging?so "naturemaxxing" is when you fleece people but tell them it's art is anal
>>41403983Thank you anon, I will check out some stores nearby and ask a few questions there too. I was aking there mostly out of curiosity to see if someone here had tried doing it, but knowing that at least there are people living out of it gives me some hope>>41403984It's not like I am planning on getting rich or anything. Believe me when I tell you that I am making more money than I need by sitting on my ass all day barely working. What I want to do will be WAY more work than what I do now and I just want enough money to survive in exchange. If you see it as fleecing people that's your problem. How I see it is just making a honest living, one probably much less comfortable than what I have now but more meaningful.
>>41404041ohhhh so this entrepreneurmaxxingcorporate drone making a lot of moneywants to make more money and be his own bossok now that makes more sense
marthastewartmaxxing
>>41404053>I want to make enough to survive>wants to make more moneyDid you hit your head as a kid or something?
>>41404067you're making more money than you need according to youyou haven't saved up or invested any? did ***you*** hit your head as a kid?if you were really naturemaxxing you wouldn't need any money to survive
>>41404041Look for wild strains of preferred herbs and begin a heritage farm. Likely a 30-50% success rate unless you use modern chemicals, soils, and techniques. Be very careful and selective, with testing if you can afford it. Dont worry about crossbreeding for extra growth, just give the plants everything they need.While some people get by with what nature offere, those are typically truffle hunters that own 10+ acres in ideal truffle conditions. Tonics could be useful but the FDA is a massive hurdle here.
>>41404097More money than I need to survive. If I eat cheap and don't do anything besides survive I can save 5k in a year. That is my definition of more than I need. I am where I am because my environment forced me down this path and this is the first time in 30 fucking years where I can finally decide what to do with my life. I don't want to make money. I want my time in this godforsaken place to be as meaningful as possible. Being in nature and processing herbs makes me happy and feels meaningful, even more so if people can benefit from it.And the fact that you say that you don't need money to survive makes me think that you have never set foot in nature actually...
>>41404177One thing you could do is look at the most expensive herbs in the marketplace, and then do some research into liquid based cloning for plants or fungus. I don't remember the exact name of the process, but there is a horticulturist out there who perfected the art of cloning plant-based DNA of virtually any type of growable form.
>>41404173>>41404192There is actually a herb that is well sought after in my country and where I live I have the conditions to actually grow it myself, which for this particular herb is extremely difficult. It's what I am betting most heavily on as a starter.
>>41404177no, really... you've never even done any basic boy scout stuff?or had friends growing up who could trap or fish with just branches and vines?you've never made fire or learn to put together a simple coverall with just plant material?seriously, there's many ways you can survive in the wild with no moneybut that's naturemaxxing, not truebotanicalsmaxxing
>>41404223So this is your idea of surviving? Going on a camping trip?
>>41404205This isn't the video I was thinking about when I mentioned tissue culture cloning earlier, but I believe it should cover the basics.The video I recall was another lady who was using sealed glass jars and a specified rotation method that allowed her to not just clone, but cultivate new species.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brJwVeMlVoA
>>41404239a camping trip without a tent?nah there's people who live out in the woodsno money or modern amenitiesthey seemed happy eventhey never tried to sell me anything either
>>41404263Dude its driving me up a wall that I can't find that original video.She used these sealed glass bulbs that had a thin tube connecting them. Her process was similar, but unique because she was able to not just clone plants, but create new cloneables that had virtually 0 DNA degradation.I spent like an hour watching this video. It had a matte black background, and the lady was very clinical and proffesional the entire time. IIRC the title of the video was something along the lines of "I made x$ by cloning rare plants".
>>41404291this chick?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzz813rFVMU
>>41404308No it was someone different. Thinner, blue eyes IIRC.>>41404291
>>41403559just do it
>>41403559Go for it, I'm starting to do just that and it's the most healing I've felt in life. We need to reunite with nature.
>>41403559>can I live off going full into herbalism and into foraging Probably not, unless you have a group of people doing this with you. Even back in the day, Grug and Grag did the hunting and Oog would do the berry picking, so nobody was doing shit all on their own. You could definitely cut some grocery costs depending on your region and skill at identifying and processing plants, but you'd need some other form of sustenance if it's a self-sufficiency thing you're after>opening a small shopTHIS would let you rake in some money. Especially if you can make it to a farmer's market in a hippie town, selling tonics and teas and shit would get you some damn good money. >>41403615shops, commerce, and exchange are all part of the human extended phenotype. It's not meaningfully different than salmon hats on orcas or beehives.
>>41403559>can I live off going full into herbalismThere are a few people doing that, but it's hard and grueling.The only naturemaxxing that makes sense is retreats. I found prayer and meditation to be supercharged in forests. You may meet a nature spirit or two, just don't go with them.pic unrel
>>41406120fuck yeah!hipstermaxxing and artis analmaxxing are much better names!naturemaxxing just sounded too too pretentious
>>41403559hi anon, I believe you should try your Naturemaxxing dream. Don't listen to those shooting down your idea. If you believe it strongly enough in your heart, it will manifest. God Bless.
>>41406906Insha Allah.
>>41406775If a forest nymph vomes out of the woods I'm going with her I don't give a fuck
>>41406120Yeah, that's actually the plan. I mean, I will also hunt and fish because I enjoy the activities, but my idea is to generate an income through setting up a small shop, maybe even online only or a small stand on the side of the road, where I will be selling whatever I make. That is what I want my source of subsistence to be. The idea is not to be fully dependant on nature, but to have a lifestyle fully dedicated to maximizing the amount of time I spend there.
>>41407200no, man. you have to move to a hippie townset up shop in a farmer's market and sell to rich boomerssell tonics and teas and shitdon't worry about finding an area with affordable rent and living expendituredon't even worry about whether it'll be a saturated market you're enteringyou can do this, so what if at some points you'd have to live in your carjust do it
>>41407303Why the sarcasm? I have already found the area and rent is affordable. The market might be saturated but I won't be doing whatever everyone else is doing. Also I want to sell to regular people who are self conscious enough to search for the alternative stuff, which in that are is also a good chunk of the population.
>>41407323what sarcasm? just do it broyou got this
>>41403559Depending on your expenses I imagine it would be somewhat difficult to break even on boutique herbal remedies. A farm, homestead or whatever it is you call what you envision is a multidimensional endeavor in an economic sense. If you throw in some seasonal vegetables for a road side farm stand or farmers market, plant some Christmas trees, make natural furniture, arts and crafts etc to tap into as many income streams as you can maybe you stand a chance. Also be personable so people want to support your business. If you document your 'experience' on youtube and write a book along the way. Your remedies are going to have to stand out against trusted brands someone can just grab off the shelf at Whole Foods on their normal shopping rounds.
