If God doesn't exist, is there any reason NOT to fall into hedonism and escaping reality through porn?
>>41435541No. You can aim for any target you choose. Just remember that if you find yourself aiming for an easy target on novice mode it's not the expert group that's making fun of you. The judgement is in your mind.
>>41435541your epicureanism is poor.
>>41435541If you don't wind up dead you'll have to cope with what you did, and that's enough for me, In my opinion, to choose not to wantonly sin for the sake of proving a point, >>41435541or petulantly throwing a fit
>>41435541It's not that there is god that loves you and wants your best, at least not in this reality we're living it, maybe outside of it.. but there very much are beings that will benefit/get energy from you every time you sin or do degraded stuff or corrupt yourself. They're called archons or whatever. So yes coping mechanisms are good to have, but if you go too degenerate these beings will begin infesting you/giving you parasites and other shit. You think it's a coincidence all the diaper shit fetish and cuckolding stuff is now on the rise? Coping is good but it should be done in moderation, and time is better invested in either the pursuit of truth, or some hobbies like art/programming/synagogue scouting
>>41435541God does exist and there's still no reason not to escape into hedonism and porn.Hedonism and porn rock.Imagine going to heaven and not being allowed to goon and having blue balls forever.
>>41435621you ever do a hard days work outside, then take a sip of water from a garden hose?
>>41435628Yeah that's bretty gudlike a cold drink and pasta after football practicebut gooning is pretty dope and there's nothing wrong with it.
>>41435636>but gooning is pretty dope and there's nothing wrong with it.your mistaken, the your tired hose water tastes sooo good because you need it sooo much, your tastes arnt objective even to you subjectivly because they vary based on needs of the body, your bodys need to spread it seed is entierly based on how quickly your individual cells are decaying and dying, or to say it another way, if your very horney if means your decaying and dying very fast - theres nothing right with this.
>>41435652That's not true, males are in their prime horny wise when they're young and most not dead and when they're old they don't goon as much.
>>41435657> their prime horny wiseive never encountered these words together, could you say it another way ive only unsubstantial guesses as to what you mean.
Yeah... alot.
>>41435673It means the doctor found that anon has erection problems, and that he only has couple of more years where he can sustain an erection. I think it's the increased soï consumption among zoomers
>>41435541In the long term the amount of pleasure you get from porn will be outweighed by the suffering caused by you ignoring reality. Even according to hedonist thought, this is a stupid an dangerous way of thinking.
>>41435673length-wisehorny-wiseas in in terms of how horny they are.ie being wise to the condition of their horniness and the things it causes.
>>41435683i figured it was some age 25 male ratification of the of the fonrtal cortex shiz but dang dickerNball woe is rough for such a young dude. think his prostate will go cancerous pre 40?
>>41435541I'm too poor to be a hedonist not to mention the fundamental nature of reality makes it impossible for me to be a "hedonist" because everything and everyone else is directly controlled by God and he will do everything he can to guarantee I continue to live a miserable life of poverty being dominated and abused by sadists with anything he considers the slightest bit "desirable" violently gatekept from meGod is a retarded sadistic tranny who forces me to live in this retarded hell reality as the sole frame of reference and only persistently real person so he can dominate and abuse me through other people who he controls as a retarded tranny hivemind, It would not be remotely wrong to "escape" reality in any way possible
>>41435704Being a hedonist is free.I do it on a 0 dollar budget thanks to God.
>>41435692oh that makes less sense, what do you think wisdom is?(also it seems your confusing your words with what the sane would describe as youthful vigor, but thats exactly what hitting puberty causes you too lose as you start to decay and die, and you hit puberty because your pituitary gland parses your serum cortisol - that results from abundant cell death - as so high continuing to grow indefinitely is no longer possible.... and then your genes literally give up on your and reconfigure your body to seed and die)
>>41435541Pleasure that comes from long term planning and social engagement is greater than immediate, sensual pleasures.
>>41435714Vitality is not commonly associated with not having boners bro.Your shit is backwards.
>>41435724>Vitality is not commonly associated with not having boners bro.no... your illiterate, vitality is not vigor, you ever hear of Rigor mortis? the stiffing of the body upon death? Vigor, is justly so, the stiffening of the male member in life. if you got no boners from youthful vigor your dumb nigger.
>>41435746You can also get vigorous boners from being full of vital energy, you are negging me because you are unhappy, stop that.
>>41435724i dont really wanna continue arguing with a dying hand mater though, youve no time lol, instead ill tell you a secret the elect know.>i figured it was some age 25 male ratification of the of the frontal cortex shiz this shit here i mentioned, thats something the Y chromosome dose.>hit puberty because your pituitary gland parses your serum cortisol - that results from abundant cell death - as so high continuing to grow indefinitely is no longer possibleand this shit here i mentioned, thats why the pituitary is the crown, ie above the pineal "3rd ayy' but telling you when to die is not the only function of the crown. to say it another way - the crown controls human life cycle transitionsand the sekret, the x and y chromosomes that govern the life cycle transitions of sexual selection too the effect of seeding the genes in another body before death are only 2 of the 48 packages of human life cycle transition instructions - annnnnd just like dat hose water, all the instructions have needs.>https://youtu.be/GIuZUCpm9hc?si=B2K5iBvKyw92PBr0
>>41435750>you are negging me because you are unhappy,nien fräulein, im negging you because >vital energyis what you lose when >>41435541 this is how you live.
>>41435541Yes. I have a few atheist friends who openly shared with me that they quit porn or chasing pussy because it had taken up hours of their daily time. The thought that they could have spent that time on doing more fruitful things became a sobering self-revelation for them. There are other such atheists I know personally who while not abstaining completely have reduced their indulgence so that they have more time to spend on more worthwhile projects of self-improvement like playing the piano or drawing. There are many reasons why people would avoid a hedonistic life and God is just one of them.
>>41435684oof okay snowflake we should be good then because watching porn should be nothing compared to eating meat>>41435704take responsibility for your own life you pussy, reading your whining is insufferable>boo hoo muh godThe anon who replied to you is completely right. Hedonism is free, you're just making excuses
>>41435652BaiiiiiitttttIm on nofap right now and even i know this is bullshit
>>41435607>They're called archonsI was going down the loosh rabbit hole and i believe it to an extent but the archon shit unironically just sounds like what happens when you blow out your dopamine receptors tbphwyf It's like ancient people came up with some hoodoovoojoo to explain what happens to you when you overindulge in hedonism and need ever increasing dopamine hit whether it's through violence or sexual pleasure or whatever.
>>41435843>bait>reprobate>preproductionreprobate - a sinner who is not of the elect and predestined to damnation (this means youve hit puberty)>Im on nofap right now and even i know this is bullshitbut you talk like a coomer>this be more concise or be - that guy who thinks you cant taste water -
>>41435541Does it matter? Do as you will and don't be a cunt.
>>41435541No.
>>41435887dats pretty based.
>>41435541I don’t know how people can not believe in something out of the material when 1. non-locality of consciousness (the universe itself is conscious and it is not confined to the brain)2 - The Aether is the substrate of reality from which all things emergeExist lol
>>41436064But what would be the argument against porn and masturbation if God does exist?
If you're not sure the Bible is the word of God watch: youtube.com/watch?v=9l5ZEsXjNVI1 Cor. 15:3-4: “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” How to know you're saved: youtube.com/watch?v=EAtR40sue5M1 John 5:7: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."Romans 3:23: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”Jesus Christ is God who has come in the flesh from heaven. He died as a sinless sacrifice for the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sin. He was buried, then resurrected and then ascended to heaven. John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 10:28: "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." Romans 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."God wants to forgive you, but you have a choice: Do you choose the righteousness of God and be saved, or your own righteousness? Your own deeds, no matter how good you think they are, can NEVER justify you or keep you saved because of your sinful condition. Romans 5:9: “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, in what HE did for you. Only He can wash away all of your sins with His blood. Salvation is a gift, it can't be earned.Eph. 2:8-9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc
>>41436072Porn is just the empty release of sexual energy. Porn cripples the mind and corporates the soul, and your body is like a mirror reflecting the light of god, the more you indulge in mindless exertions the more you stain your mirror.If you want to be a bum and do nothing with your life go ahead, it makes your mind go to slop and makes your overall motivation and drive decrease. But I understand where you come from, considering your materialistic.Note. there is a reason why porn is used as a political weapon.>>41436072
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>>41435707God terrorizes, abuses, harasses, threatens me for literally anything I think or do, not it's "free" to be a hedonist and I wouldn't even have the freedom to enjoy anything if I was rich which is why I included the second paragraph. God abuses me if I try to enjoy "free" things like my literal imagination so no it's not possible let alone "free" to be a hedonist.
>>41435541>If God doesn't exist, is there any reason NOT to fall into hedonism and escaping reality through porn?Fake and Gay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8YRg_LK_PU&list=RDr8YRg_LK_PU&start_radio=1
>>41435541...do you just do things to please God or out of fear of him?
- Utilitarism- (Epikurean) Contractualism- Some kind of Kantian deontologyIn fact, even the teachings of Epikurus would plead to rationate pleasure. Not because the flesh is bad or something, but cause too much pleasure is boring. By low-dosing it, you can have more please over a longer period of time.
>>41435541Even if God does exist there's no reason to think he cares, it's not like he ever does anything.
>>41435857archons very much real it's the basis of the gnosticism etc. pretty much explains how this agent smith effect existed prior to our modern tech, it's because there are entities keeping an eye on the interactions of the world and manipulating/making weird things happen to torment people sometimes (if you've ever played MMO, it's basically a GM who has his character model turned invisible, so he will see you doing stuff but you wont see him).
Honestly all you need to do is do some drugs to go on a trip or get some kind of dissociative experience (sometimes possible even without drugs) to realize that there's A) much more to our reality than just materialism and B) there are entities controlling stuff. The problem many hylics have is they think once the trip is over, those things they saw during trip or entities, "cease to exist", they think their mind was creating all of it. I guess NPC theory must be true, because there are some people that take big doses of psychedelics and see all kinds of stuff, but they just cannot make the connection, simply can't, and I don't know if it's they lack soul or spark or what, but it's clearly because something's not the same with these people, like to me they might as well be yes men for the system because effectively with their own actions that's all they'll ever be doing anyway
>>41435541I will tell you as someone who has thought about it a lot that since something has come from nothing you should try to make whatever you are last. If you like porn you should learn to draw and when you’re soon to pass you’ll have done something, if you don’t think you can do that then I ask why your wick is even burning, you’re being a scentless candle if all you can do is please yourself until we have to bury you
>>41435603As someone that has done this you are rightThere's a reason it is so "platitudinalized"You are metaphorically shitting where you eat while coveting your neighbour's wife and sleeping in the bed you made Only a person with no shame or want for common good can continue to live this way without learning that it is antithetical to their own continued prevalence
At some point in life everyone is presented with the choice of satisfying what the flesh wants, everyone chooses serving the flesh so I couldn't tell you about the other choice.
>>4143696969 69. Hehehehehe
>>41436104None of that is actually true though, you've just decided it is because it gives you an excuse to look down your nose at others.
>>41435541You will be disappointed looking for satisfaction in things that are inherently unsatisfactory. But if you need to learn that from experience, just don't overestimate how much drugs it takes to ruin your health. It's not as much as you think.
>>41435704>>41436266'God', which is actually a tentacle demon, is a retard tyrant that rapes my mind into experiencing a false reality so he can flavor and suck my blood. He also makes me a 30 something man in here, even though I clearly know that I am a schoolgirl in base reality. He also generates scenarios in this matrix that forces me to only consume the lowest quality niggslop, even tho he could spawn in food so enjoyable that it would literally make me orgasm. Another thing 'God' does is only allow me to be surrounded by rat ogre tier broads, even though I am straight and he could generate men that would make me flood a room just by being in their general presence. The funniest, most sinister thing 'God' does is force me to say and believe he is actually God, even though he is an extremely black, vampiric, demonic tentacle demon from the Abyss and nowhere near God. He even has me write longwinded schizo rants about how bad God is, even though I should be writing about the tentacled bastard that has me in this situation.
>>41437122It doesn’t, and you’re probably just self conscious.I don’t look down at anyone with a porn addiction, especially within this day and age. It is extremely hand not to fall into a porn/masterbaition addiction, I too was once a chronic beater. It Is bad for you spiritually and physically, if your Indian it fucks up your chakras, if you abrahamic is not allowed, most pagan religions disprove of it, only some gay occcult shit like the GD like it, it weakens your connection with the monad, etcIt ruins your dopamine receptors, your perspective on relationships, you nutrition, your biochemistry; your brain literally get rewired ever time you beat, etc.I really do hope you can fix your problem if you do have one, god bless you brother
>>41437625Also mb for the spag mistakes, English isn’t my first language
Yes. >the end goal of all life is to reproduce as much as possible>humans have the burden of worrying about memetic success as well as genetic success>it is therefore better to do things that make it easier to reproduce (abstractly and physically) and improve the success of your children>it is therefore better to not become a porn addict because that affects fertility, virility, desirability, and diminishes your ability to get laid in the first place as well as being laughably unrespectable>it is therefore better to not be gay or trans because they do not reproduce well physically and nobody respects them>it is therefore better to not be a useless gamer because they do not fuck much and nobody respects or talks about the vast majority of them>it is therefore better to not fall into substance abuse as almost all substance abuse negatively impacts fertility and your ability to influence peopleAnd that's just a raw, by-the-numbers reasoning. Pick a god and there's a solid chance they'd be anti-porn.>Jewish god: porn is how we control the goyim>Allah: you should throw bombs at naked women, not fap to them>Vishnu: you should sexually harass women, not fap to them>Zeus: you should turn into a cloud and fuck women, not fap to them>Poseidon: you should be tending to your boat instead of fapping>Ares: you should be training instead of fapping>Hercules: you should kill endangered animals instead of fapping
