Can I use my free will to turn myself into a hot girl

>>41487016
No
You will never be a woman

>>41487009
Why do you assume people don’t choose these things? Eating meat is fun and tasty. Why would someone with free will be more or less likely to eat meat?

Yes, most people are not too dissimilar to animals living off base instinct. No inner monologue means little to no reflection (ai will make this worse). This would be fine were humans not an incredibly destructive species.

>>41487028
Because it's immoral obviously

>>41487042
I think the problem is the smart people with internal monologues are the elites and are evil.
But I think good people with internal monologues exist but aren't elites the current elites are extremely nepotistic

>>41487009
OP’s idea of what to do with free will
>shoot CEOs
>commit murder suicide
>be vegan
>be anti-abortion
>donate to charities
>not be fat

>>41487052
Are vultures immoral for eating a corpse? Or is it just immoral to kill an animal to eat it?
So why do you think a creature with free will wouldn’t choose to be immoral? If anything the fact that immoral things happen is evidence of free will.
If people are doing bad things without choosing to do them then existence is inherently evil.

>>41487060
Your idea of what to do with free will
>Never revolt. George Washington is a very very evil man
>If you commit suicide only kill yourself never take an evil powerful person with you and post a manifesto.
>Pay for thousands of innocent animals to be raped into existence and tortured to death in factory farms
>Abort millions of healthy and consensually conceived children every year. Also kill millions of children through IVF every year
>Don't donate to charity. If you do make sure not to donate to effective ones which save lives donate to some thots only fans instead so she can buy more clothes
>Be overweight, unhealthy, ugly and profligate.
>Be hypocritical.

>>41487057
Not necessarily. It probably started that way, which is how they got a leg up on everyone, but their children did not necessarily match that especially when children of the rich get kind of mushy and soft with no adversity.

Intelligence is not good or evil, and there is a randomness to it. You can find super intelligent people among tribals that can't read and write.

There is some intelligence at the head of this, there has to be since they know how to manipulate the public so well. But they can't bee too intelligent with the short-sighted way they treat the planet, unless there is truly some demonic alien shit going on.

>>41487042
Everyone has an internal monologue. Don’t believe bullshit “studies” which are just disguised misinformation designed to make you weak and isolated. Want proof? Look at the people who claim to lack an internal monologue, they are freaks and attention whores who are trying to find a “special” badge to wear.

>>41487075
Yes and no. It's unfortunate just like a 2 year old child shooting his 1 year old sibling with his parents gun he found.

I'd expect evil people I just wouldn't expect not extremely evil people to be so rare.

>If people are doing bad things without choosing to do them then existence is inherently evil.
>If someone sleep walks and damages someone else's property then existence is inherently evil

>>41487086
You’re projecting like a movie theater bro

>>41487009
My theory is that people are radios for souls. You attach to a body with a certain clarity to soul frequency. Some are clear and others are static. NPCs are static. These people have existed for as long as humans. It's nothing new. There's a reason all of the ancient myths and legends needed to be told as a fairy tale so the normies would hopefully glimpse a little bit of the wisdom in the story. But even still most of them stop at DURR HERCULES BIG STRONG HERO MAN and miss the allegory behind it.

>>41487092
I would believe you if I didn't know some friends that've claimed such and it kind of explained why they were so impulsive. Also once knew a girl who liked to talk to herself and said it was silly other people didn't and when I said I do just in my head she seemed taken aback by it.

>>41487098
Your sleep walk comparison doesn’t make sense. First the sleepwalker has no awareness or intent. Second, do you think people only have free will sometimes?
If only some people have free will and people who don’t have it do evil things then whatever is actually controlling them is evil because it’s doing evil with awareness and intent.

>>41487123
Is an avalanche evil for killing someone?

>>41487123
>Second, do you think people only have free will sometimes?

What do you think not guilty by insanity is?

>>41487009
>>41487042
>>41487111
NPC theory is just a way to complain about shit you don’t like. “Oh NPCs don’t appreciate myths” “NPCs eat meat” “NPCs are instinct only”. Have you considered that you are merely a judgemental retard?
I could get behind the concept if there was any attempt to create a comprehensive and cohesive theory of what an NPC is and how they act. But it’s always just the random shit anon doesn’t like shortlist.
It’s especially frustrating that everyone who calls others NPCs or questions free will seems to be in completely confidence of their own free will and actual existence. How do you know you’re not just a meta-NPC programmed to question the behavior of others and view them as NPCs? If you don’t have free will you have no clue.

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>>41487009 You will be dismantled alongside the final, rotting remnants of Christian morality. Your suicidal empathy has doomed us all. FUCK YOU. Moralism is a cancer, and it will be cut out.

>>41487133
Avalanche has no awareness or intent or intellect unlike people and/or the intellect actually controlling them if they don’t have free will.
>>41487141
Insane people make choices dude

>>41487009
Picrel?

>>41487153
>Seething npc

>>41487153
It's mostly the result of a dehumanization program run by anti-West powers. Anytime I hear someone accuse others of being NPCs there's always signs of the useful idiot troll tool being a duped conveyance of Russian dissatisfaction with the U.S. and other Western powers. Some memes will be present that indicate this person has had contact with meme culture like that on 4chan and elsewhere but they don't "get" what a troll is, or does, or where they come from, or what their ultimate goal is. A Russian paid a rubble per shitpost is a troll, a neckbeard who does it for free is a troll, a shooter who bought into it is a troll...some tiktok woman who throws around memes and has her culture down pat, knows the insides and outs, is not a troll, she's a dupe, a putz, unless she monetizes that shit and knows to stay away from real trolls and anyone that wants anything to do with them.

A key feature of the whole troll movement has been dehumanizing as many as possible. It's a common feature of highly aggressive social movements and has been for thousands of years. Years ago some American called others NPCs, it stuck, the Russians noticed, they weaponized the meme, and here we are and the damage is...minimal. It wasn't really damaging people too bad until the AI came along and now it can get hairy.

>>41487153
I don't think people are NPCs merely for disagreeing with me I think people are NPCs for being extremely hypocritical and logically inconsistent like almost all pro choice meat eaters in first world countries today.

Best evidence of my free will is intuition I feel like I have it

>>41487159
So just live like an animal seeking your base level desires like sex food tribalism and power? No thanks

>>41487221
>nooooo you have to treat others like yourself because rabbi yeshua said so even though it's obvious there are tiers to consciousness/spirit

*nervous npc noises* your archon masters are going to eat you once you can't fish out engagement lmao

>>41487163
Someone can have free will but just very little of it. There choices can be incredibly limited

>>41487236
What I'm suggesting to this other anon is that I don't care about you or your kind for reasons you've made obvious enough I don't need to explain them.

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>>41487247
>>41487159
Tribalism is a cancer. Giving rights to only humans or whites is ridiculous. There's no good definition of what a human is
Evolution is true
Did two non humans give birth to a human?

how you can give rights to humans and not give rights to non humans without defining what a human is.

If I say it's immoral to drain lakes but moral to drain puddles and I can't define when a puddle becomes a lake that's a big problem

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>>41487234 You won't live with us in the future, retard. You'll be exiled.
Go live in the woods and preach empathy to rocks and squirrels, you absolute faggot.
Nobody will miss you.

>>41487254
I'm a white American vegan. India, Indians and Hinduism are far from perfect when it comes to animal rights, India is one of the worlds largest exporters of beef.

>>41487261
Cope and seethe. I'm not going anywhere and I won't go quietly

>>41487118
She realised in that moment that you are retarded, anon. Thinking in words only slows a person down. I CAN have an internal monologue, if I choose to cripple myself. People who actually think using words must be exhausting to be around, I'm so glad I don't know any mentally disabled people who have to think the words "I will make a Rueben sandwich" rather than just intuitively knowing what they feel like eating

>>41487260 Tribe is the only real unit. Always has been.
"Universal morality" is a jewish lie to make you weak.
Why the fuck should I care about some niggers on the other side of the planet?
Your feelings don't matter. Your morality is a fiction.

I'll never be able to fully ascent because I'm incapable of loving or accepting a pepe or wojak poster.

>>41487009
I'm not sure about this image, OP. I think the more you value, the more passionate you become. And the more passionate you become, inevitably, the angrier you get.
To love something is to generate hate for something else. You have created preference. To truly escape this dichotomy, you would have to love even evil, immoral acts of purposeless driven decay and destruction. Taking a stand against that means to devalue the ones, or the thing, causing that. It's friction.
If this is the trap, then suicide by ego death or physical death seem like the only answer.

>>41487347
>hating evil is bad mkay

>>41487278
>She realised in that moment that you are retarded
>Saying words aloud is faster than thinking them
Are you sure I'm the retard? The food debate is annoying though I'll give you that, sometimes we can't decide so much I don't eat at all. Introspection isn't always an advantage, but it seems integral to things like empathy or manipulation. I can manipulate people because I can run a simulation of their minds inside of mine. This is what the elites do, but I don't use this power for evil.

>>41487009
The npc concept is simply newspeak to refer to the hylics of gnosticism, so yes, the meme is real.

>>41487425
Yeah that seems to be the general idea behind it to me. I really don't think "love thy rapey tyrannical neighbor who wants to enslave you" is correct in any way, shape or form.

>>41487027
If I have free will then why not

>>41487493
free will doesn't make you a reality warping god.

>>41487584
Then it’s not free L O L

>>41487009
There's appeal to minority just as much as there's appeal to majority.

>>41487629
if I gave you a candy and you got a cavity from it, it's still free.

>>41487639
Incorrect

>>41487629
Nom sequitur

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nh1Z3UTobrY

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fn2Uycj6osk

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mRPUOaZl-H0

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2dLyguPfh-c

>>41487347
Tell that to Jesus

>>41487291
Because it's true they matter
https://benthams.substack.com/p/moral-realism-is-true?utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app&triedRedirect=true
You can choose not to care and be irrational just like you can choose to believe 1 x 1 = 2 like Terrence

>>41487728
Bring him to me, I have a few fuckin' words.
And he'll forgive me for saying them, too.

>>41487163
If someone is mentally ill and also very empathetic and genuinely believes everyone on earth will go to hell forever tomorrow if they don't kill their local mailman today I don't think they can choose not to kill their mailman.

Claim,Verification,Implication for Free Will
99% of firearm suicides don't involve shooting someone else first,"Accurate. In the US (where ~55% of suicides involve guns), gun deaths total ~48,000/year: ~58% suicides (~27,800), ~38% homicides (~18,200). Murder-suicides (homicide followed by suicide) number ~600–1,000 annually—mostly by firearm—making them ~2–4% of suicides (or ~5% of homicides). The vast majority self-end without external violence, driven by isolation, mental health crises, or impulsivity rather than ""choice.""","If libertarian free will were common, we'd expect more chaotic, individualized escalations (e.g., revenge fantasies turning real). Instead, patterns scream determinism: access to guns + despair = predictable tragedy."
Vegans ~1% of population,"Close, but varies by scope. Globally: ~1% (~79 million). In the US: ~4% identify as vegan. (Vegetarian/vegan combined: up to 25% projected by 2025 in some markets, but strict veganism stays niche.)","Ethical dietary shifts require overriding cultural norms and biology (e.g., meat cravings). Rarity suggests most are ""programmed"" by habit/society, not free ethical calculus."
Abortion abolitionists ~1%; even 'true' pro-lifers rare; most pro-choice,"Spot-on for hardliners. Overall: 51% pro-choice, 43% pro-life in 2025 US polls. But ""abolitionists"" (no-exceptions absolutists) are a vocal ~1–2% subset of pro-lifers; mainstream pro-lifers often allow exceptions (rape/incest). Gender gap widening: 57% women vs. 40% men pro-choice.","Moral stances here track demographics (age, religion, politics) more than independent reasoning. If free will dominated, views would scatter more; instead, they're clustered like NPC dialogue trees."

>>41487767
Effective altruists 'incredibly rare'; AMF underfunded despite cheap impact,"Yes—EA community: ~10,000–15,000 active global members (up from ~7,400 in 2021, growing 10–20%/year but still minuscule vs. 8B world pop). AMF: Bed nets save ~1 child life per $3,000–$10,000; funding gap: $100M+ annually despite proven ROI. (Only ~25M tried veganism briefly in 2025 via Veganuary, per EA-aligned data.)","Altruism demands abstract reasoning over tribal instincts. Rarity implies most prioritize short-term/selfish ""scripts"" (family, status) over global optimization—free will shortfall?"
Genetics-obesity link 'extremely strong'; Ozempic suppresses appetite effectively,"Heritability: 40–70% (twin studies; BMI variance largely genetic). Variants (e.g., FTO gene) amp hunger signals, dooming carriers to overweight absent intervention. Ozempic (semaglutide): 15–20% body weight loss in 1 year by mimicking satiety hormones; ~4–5% in 12 weeks at standard dose.","""Willpower"" diets fail ~95% long-term; drugs hack biology. This screams biological determinism—few ""choose"" thinness against genes."

>>41487735
>look at this jewish word salad
Your thread is proof that there is no universal morality, since most people aren't moral to your retarded standards. You are an irrational faggot. Simple as that. Your illness stems from 2 sources:
- Christian morality
- Jewish propaganda

>>41487721
Nom nom nom

>>41487767
>>41487773
I can sort of answer for the suicide thing as someone whose revenge fantasies keep me from doing it: it's a lot of work, which is hard when you're clinically depressed.

I don't think you should count abortion. It is an act of self-determination to decide to not bring a child into the world.

>>41487972
Sure but is that you admitting you're weak lazy and lack willpower or you saying you have little to no libertarian free will?

The child is already in the world. She's deciding to be the mother of a dead child or a living one

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zkH3vrevU9o

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=brKhhZlUoOc

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VIwWhdvrYRE

The earliest case for which I believe the precautionary principle should hold was around 43-45 days. Which comes out to be 6.1-6.4 weeks.

The fetal brain begins to develop around 3-5 weeks gestation. So I am okay with abortions prior to that timeframe.

It's hard to say what the levels of sentience equate to at each week. But I wouldn't not assume this is a miniscule amount of sentience. Many EEG brain patterns observed in fetal brains as early as 6.1-6.4 weeks ( high voltage
slow waves with superimposed fast activity) are comparable to mature birds, mature frogs, mature rabbits and the mature marmot. We can even observe sleep spindles in the fetal brain this early.

Does this prove the same degree of sentience? No. Does this give us reason to take the precautionary principle with respect to this degree of sentience? Yes

https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ugWMVqkRuj4

Besides most people support IVF being legal

>>41488265
>Sure but is that you admitting you're weak lazy and lack willpower or you saying you have little to no libertarian free will?
It's saying your theory that people with free will would want to make their suicidal urge count for something is true - and that the reason you see so little of it is because it requires effort which is hard when you are depressed which makes you weak and tired.

>The child is already in the world. She's deciding to be the mother of a dead child or a living one
The earlier the better, but mothers shouldn't have to have children if they don't feel they should. Dead children are as natural as the rain in this world. Miscarriages happen, in nature mothers abandon or eat their offspring if the timing is bad, it's simply a method of survival. I think late abortions when it resembles something living are a bit barbaric, but before then is neutral. I don't impose my personal feelings on anyone else ultimate because I don't believe in forcing a woman to carry/deliver a child.

God/universe speaks through us and our creations, including videogames. As above so below. We interact with other real consciousnesses/souls through their human avatars, while most of the other characters are symbolic NPC’s. The universe is perfectly efficient.

>>41488328
>The universe is perfectly efficient.
I can appreciate the larger picture, but being forced to scrutinize the details makes me sick. Just as you wouldn't want to see your loved one's inner organs pumping and squirming, but I am forced to reconcile with the horrific nightmares of myself, my neighbors and communities.

>>41488368
Our bodies are just symbolic projections of consciousness.

>>41488389
And I don't dig what's there. It may be efficient, but it's certainly not beautiful under scrutiny.

>>41488313
>I don't impose my personal feelings on anyone else ultimate because I don't believe in forcing a woman to carry/deliver a child.

You want your "personal feelings" to be imposed on other men and women so they can't murder you legally. But you don't want unborn humans to be protected by the same laws that protect you

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zkH3vrevU9o

>>41488413
I think it doesn't really matter if idealism is true or not

>>41488436
But you can put that same logic on the woman carrying the child, especially in cases where the pregnancy endangers her life. Unborn humans don't want anything yet, they don't even know what they are.

>>41488578
They don't even have awareness until after they've been born.
May as well stop killing animals for meat.

>>41488578
No you can't. She's not a victim. Assuming she wasn't raped she willfully chose to risk forcing another person into being in a state of dependence on her.

>Unborn humans don't want anything yet, they don't even know what they are.

Neither do newborns. Is killing them okay? How about severely mentally handicapped adults?
>>41488585
This is false
>>41488265
>>41488265
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zkH3vrevU9o

Yes animals should also not be killed for meat. Abortion and animal agriculture are both bad.

>>41487009
Approximately 41% to 43% of Americans identify as pro-life, while a slim majority (around 51% to 54%) identify as pro-choice.

This post is great rambling.

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>>41488660
>>41488660
That's just self id. If you break down the 43% most do support some abortions including consensually conceived healthy children in the first trimester. Look at the results of ballot referendums on abortion in red states instead of vaguely worded polls
Pro life =/= abortion abolitionist

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XGPv66ZqlEQ&pp=0gcJCQgKAYcqIYzv

>>41488712
Good luck coming up with a definition
https://philosophicalvegan.com/wiki/index.php/NameTheTrait

>>41487009
No, and the world would unironically be a better place if we were rid of those that thought of others that way.

>>41488689
>Dude everyone supports abortion. Ignore those statistics goyim.

>>41487009
Beings outside the Avatar become truly alive when the Avatar’s Essence perceives them as meaningful, projecting a portion of its vitality into them within the story of life.

>>41490198
Based schizo

>>41487016
Why do all you faggots want to be a girl anyway? Why do you want to get fucked by dudes and have to worry about periods and pregnancy

>>41490846
They want to be the girlfriend they never got to have

>>41490846
>Why do all you faggots want to be a girl anyway?
Why do I want to be the gender that isn't the coomer murder sex pest gender?
>Why do you want to get fucked by dudes
Men are hot
>have to worry about periods and pregnancy
Well I don't want periods but I'm willing to put up with it

>>41490926
I were with the girl I want to be I'd be jealous of her

>>41490861
I have the same, but mine is underground. I have submarine tech included, and I can ping and hear anyone getting close to me. I can raise my periscope, and watch people coming from a mile away. My hyper ballistic projectiles are laser guided that are chambered to a 30-06 that have a range of a mile because of the precision calibrated and extended barrels. Trust me. You don't want to fofo on my estate. You'll be gone before you even know you're alive.

>>41487009
Obviously you retard

>>41489900
>commie accusation for no reason
>accuses others or being NPCs
Like a boomer on Facebook. So self-assured and yet so sheep-like.

>>41491240
Either that or no one has any free will

>>41491136
>Why do I want to be the gender that isn't the coomer murder sex pest gender?

Women are not the angels you think they are. One in five women in the USA have had an abortion. Most women are pro choice. Almost all women are not vegan and regularly pay for animals to be raped, tortured and murdered.
Yes men may have a libido which makes them do stupid shit a lot but women also have an appetite for flesh that leads them to do lots of evil.

in libertarian logic it's bad if you aren't having sex every 5 minutes in an orgy.
Each 5 minute is a sin, a crime against humanity. because someone could've been born in a different timeline. That's a potential person you killed by not having the sex.

>>41492028
wtf are you talking about

>>41492028
Do you mean utilitarianism?

>>41493003
Bump

>>41487463
Even if it were, why are we expected to show Agape love to things like parasitic worms or dark occultists? Neither of these would reciprocate, and both would do harm to you.
I can add this to the list of things I hate about this reality:
>Show Agape love, even to things that either hate you or are devoid of any of the faculties of higher life and would still bring harm.
The problem is that I'm actually questioning if Agape love on all orders of magnitude is even possible. If you have Agape love for a family member, isn't that a condition by the fact that they're close to you? That would defeat the purpose of Agape love.

>>41494927
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5OdTFF8gHII

>>41492989
It's something that makes sense if you have the background of the things in OP, EA, libertarians, and such. I'm familiar with the worldview(but I believe the topics, and what position to take, can be nuanced). Then you consider hypothetical timelines.

>>41495145
Libertarian is a type of free will not a political ideology

>>41487721
It's not exactly free will if the will is still bound by something (in our case the laws of the universe)

>>41487493
YWNBAW. KYS

>>41495478
I can still have free will even if I can't fly like Superman.

>>41487009

What tranny cope. I have more fire in the soul of my pinky than you do in your whole never-will-be-a-woman body.

>>41495573
I'm a cis man and do not want to become a woman.

>>41495497
>i have free will in prison even if im only allowed to see sunlight once a day for 30 minutes

>>41495701
Yes

>>41495701
No

It's true for men. Men are mostly dogs living deranged fantasies in their heads. All women have intuition, but they struggle with integrating it. The soul journey probably goes man > woman > man.

>>41487493
You're free to try. The odds of succeeding aren't particularly good though.

>>41496276
>>41491657
Women are not the angels you think they are. One in five women in the USA have had an abortion. Most women are pro choice. Almost all women are not vegan and regularly pay for animals to be raped, tortured and murdered.
Yes men may have a libido which makes them do stupid shit a lot but women also have an appetite for flesh that leads them to do lots of evil.

Bump

Bump

Human behavior can be viewed as the human biological system reacting to the loosh of Creation; because we are more similar biologically then we are different, our behavior ends up being largely the same. And we can look to Creation to find out why we don't rise up against our oppressors; we march uselessly some of us, others are happy to be oppressed, still more do nothing but complain. These are obviously the normal responses in Creation when oppressed, at least in the Mortal Realm.

It's comforting to look at the average not-good-enough person and consider them an NPC, because it implicitly suggests I'm not one. But I don't run a insurrectionist movement replete with firearms and ammunition plotting to take down the government, I don't even recycle, I'm just as much an NPC as anyone else. Unless occult powers are real and what I think is actually coming true I'm as much part of the problem as anyone.

Dehumanizing your enemies can be useful when you need to be more brutal towards them but can't bring yourself to so long as you view them as human. If you're planning to reason with them and try and turn them away from their thinking it's not very useful. Also part of the reason these NPCs are hard to convince is the social disconnect between them and non-NPCs, which can't hardly talk to each other without arguing. Perhaps humanizing your enemies would help you more when you're not coming across as charming to them?

>>41499632
What if no one has any free will?

>>41500022
How free are we talking here? You'll usually face the expected repercussions for your actions, and what you think is shaped by your biology and how you've been treated by others...but these influences can be interrupted, stopped temporarily so that you can shape things into changing, but even that must be fated...it doesn't have to appear fated though. It might surprise you just how much occult powers can have an influence, some of the rules of Creation can be bent with skill, effort and time.

Calling it "free" will seems a little misleading no matter what since it requires things, but how much more free can you get than to act from outside of what seems possible?

Started on an incorrect premise that abortion is in some way wrong. The most evil humans are those trying to make abortion illegal. Abortion is the most morally correct action. Bringing human life into this world is immoral.

>>41488265
3-5 weeks is a zygote the size of a coin. What brain do you think has been developed in this tiny little button clump of cells? Very clear you've been brainwashed by the US christian retard lobby. Try thinking for yourself, you've shown your whole arse here.

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>>41487009
None of you have free will you dumb niggers.
Free will by its very definition = your thoughts and actions cannot be impeded by outside forces or other wills.
Try argue that you have free will, seriously.
>umm i totally do bec-
Go out, claim a house and some land of your choosing, take a woman of your choosing too while you're at it and start a life there now.

Oh what's that? You can't? Why can't you? Because other wills have decreed that you can't? You don't have free will, and listen, dipshits, I already know your next move and trust me it's better you don't go that route to save what dignity you have left because if you niggers really try to pull the
>free will doesn't mean you can do what you want
shit then you're even more stupid than I thought because that's EXACTLY what free will is. You can unimpededly do as you want. You can't do as you want though because you don't have free will, your will is bound to rules and regulations pushed upon you by other people.
Your thoughts, decisions and actions have to take into account these rules and regulations and you make decisions based on them. Your will is anything but free.

If you break the law and are rugby tackled by some cops and restrained how free is your will now?

>>41500316
>>41500294
Plenty of secular people who think most abortions are murders.

>>41500403
damn the universe is deterministic and it determined you are a huge faggot.

>>41487009
>People even a little bit like mangione are incredibly incredibly incredibly rare.

Whew, I'm glad I saw this sentence. I was about to give you a serious effort post until I read your gay boy sentence showing everyone what a faggot retard npc you are.

>>41487016
You can improve your looks if you want. Even if you are a natural uggo, a lot of that is just keeping neat and clean. Brush your teeth regularly. Keep your clothes and hair tidy. Don't stink. Don't be fat.

>>41501294
This is cope

>>41487052
Its not.

>>41500403
>If you break the law and are rugby tackled by some cops and restrained how free is your will now?
You're talking about power, not free will. Just because you live in a society with laws and millions of minions who uphold those laws doesn't mean you don't have free will.

>>41501304
Wdym? You against brushing your teeth?

>>41487629
>free will means i dictate physical reality right?

>>41496377
How do I try it
>>41501294
Ok but what about beyond that

>>41501340
Tranny freak make peace with the fact you will never be a woman

>>41501340
Beyond that? If you are talking paranormal things, there is glamour magic.
First, you have to do like posted above, keeping clean and tidy in your hygiene and doing all you can, physically.
Then you boost it up with glamour magic. Glamour magic doesn't change what you look like in reality. What it does is project the image of yourself that you want others to see you as, in their minds.
It takes some focus and a lot of practice.
One simple trick to start doing glamour magic is to focus on the way you walk.
Walk with a straight but relaxed spine and stride, looking straight ahead of you, while also staying aware of your step so you aren't walking into things or stumbling. Keep your chin up, looking calm and walking confident.
Practice this, and you will notice people treating you better. More respectfully.
This is babby's first glamour magic lesson.

>>41487086
>kill millions of children through IVF
What the fuck are you yapping about you retard, IVF is effectively the exact opposite of killing someone

>>41501402
For every one person born due go IVF, hundreds of embryos, aka babies to be, are destroyed. It is part of the IVF process. If not, then each woman doing IVF would by default, carry 2, 3,4,5, or more babies in her IVF pregnancy.

>>41501437
Pretty much.
When you ask a non vegan why it's okay to turn a pig into a sandwich but not okay to turn a human into a sandwich they'll say "because they're human and because they're non human"
But then they support IVF. Which kills humans.
Pro choice meat eaters are incredibly evil and hypocritical.

no one has libertarian free will. that implies there is some uncaused thing causing your will. i can't imagine how you would even attempt to explain that. however you can work with a compatibilist view where you determine your own will to a degree

>>41501335
Yes

free will is
>"Here is a gun"
>"shoot this person in the head and i guarantee i will let them go but you will take their place instead"
and the choice and rationalisation on what you do and why you do it is up to you
despite it definitely being under duress and the answer will depend on the context (is it a loved one, a criminal etc) but it's still up to you

>>41501607
*or i guarantee

>>41501437
>>41501462
Embryos are not people. They might be genetically human but so are your skin cells. Your body destroys tons of reproductive cells all the time that could become people.
Who are you to say that death is evil? If you believe in a soul then death is only physical and temporary.
You’d have to be an atheist to hate abortion. Would you rather force a child to be born into a crack den just to be abused and eventually murdered, vs allow the mother to abort and return the soul to God or let it reincarnate, before it goes through a life of suffering?
In that sense it’s clearly evil to force the child to be born and go through completely avoidable suffering. Only an atheist who doesn’t believe in souls whatsoever could disagree.

>>41501607
Altruism is possible.
Psychological egoism is false https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5OdTFF8gHII

>>41501632
>Embryos are not people. They might be genetically human but so are your skin cells. Your body destroys tons of reproductive cells all the time that could become people.

What's a person? Embryos are unique new DNA. They're a new separate individual.
>Who are you to say that death is evil? If you believe in a soul then death is only physical and temporary.

Murder is evil. Accidents / miscarriages not so much
>You’d have to be an atheist to hate abortion.

No
>Would you rather force a child to be born into a crack den just to be abused and eventually murdered, vs allow the mother to abort and return the soul to God or let it reincarnate, before it goes through a life of suffering?

Everyone suffers. No one has perfect life.
>In that sense it’s clearly evil to force the child to be born and go through completely avoidable suffering. Only an atheist who doesn’t believe in souls whatsoever could disagree.

You could justify murdering all newborns this way. They'll all suffer in the future if you don't kill them young.

>>41501799
Why is murder evil when the soul is eternal?
Suffering is unavoidable but a life filled with suffering is awaiting some children who are forced to be born. If the total amount of suffering can be reduced, isn’t that good? Opposing the reduction of suffering seems evil to me.

>>41501914
Because pure hedonism is false. Pleasure isn't the only good thing. Even some utilitarians acknowledge this.
If the soul is eternal shooting up a preschool isn't evil? Are you fucking kidding me?

A life filled with suffering is awaiting All children who are "forced" to be born.
>If the total amount of suffering can be reduced, isn’t that good? Opposing the reduction of suffering seems evil to me.

Okay in that case someone who robs or burglarizes you, gets away with it and then donates all the money they stole from you to the shrimp welfare project to more humanely slaughter shrimp has done something good. If he tells you he's about to rob you so he can donate the money in your wallet to shrimp and you resist him or call the police on him after you're opposing the reduction of suffering and it seems you've done evil to me.

>>41501985
>Okay in that case someone who robs or burglarizes you, gets away with it and then donates all the money they stole from you to the shrimp welfare project to more humanely slaughter shrimp has done something good. If he tells you he's about to rob you so he can donate the money in your wallet to shrimp and you resist him or call the police on him after you're opposing the reduction of suffering and it seems you've done evil to me.
Maybe that’s true. We can only argue that human suffering is “more important”. But we kill tons of “lesser” animals to sustain our lives. Is a human not an inherently evil creature because it needs to kill to live?
OP brought up veganism so clearly animal suffering is important. Do humans deserve to do what we do?

>>41502098
No because a utilitarian vegan can argue humans are good because more human infrastructure and more humans means less wild land and less wild animal suffering. Almost all animal suffering is experienced by wild animals not domesticated ones.

>>41502125
That logic is so backward. So extinctions are good because there’s no animals in the wild left to suffer? What a fucked up worldview you got.

>>41501632
Stop killing IVF embryos. Anyone doing IVF is rich. They can afford to raise 4, 5, 6, or more children. If you do IVF the doctor should have to implant them all instead of disposing of most of them for the single embryo to get implanted and live.

>>41501914
>>41501632
I suffered horrific tortures of abuse for most of my life, the likes of which most people can'f imagine.
Now I lead a happy, healthy life. I got away from all the evil people who abused me in every imaginable way and forced me to suffer. I've been close to death innumerable times.
10 years ago I was miserable and I wished I was never born. Suicidal, even.
Now, my life is good.
I am glad I got born.
To the anon saying life isn't worth it because of suffering, you are wrong.

>>41502428
Based!

>>41501340
>How do I try it
Most people attempt it via a mix of pretending, threatening others to play along, or mutilation of their bodies. None of them have succeeded yet.

>>41502663
41% attempt suicide

>>41487075
There’s no such thing as morality for animals. Morality is a function of the distinctly human ability to discern right and wrong. Your position is preposterous. And of course it’s moral to eat meat. I’m betting you’re some sort of sick deviant who copes by creating his own subjective moral framework. And in emphasizing the aspects of your personal moral code that make your system distinct, you justify your depravity by shouting loudly of your rectitude according to your ridiculous set of morals. That’s not going to cut it. Not eating meat justifies nothing in your life.

>>41487159
You're a literal retard living at other people

>>41487009
I am just chiming in here to bring to your attention how dumb this visualization in reality is.
Ask yourself... did it have to be a circle?

>>41487009
This was captioned by a butthurt leftist. 1-6 being Family and close ones to six being your town and friends.

>>41487042
Inner monologue has very little to do with real self-reflection and mostly serves to obscure the actual bodily motivations that cause thought because addressing those motivations would be too difficult or painful.

>>41487016
Not a hot girl. Cant cure your ugliness

Every human builds their own prison, our beliefs hold us back but also protect us in ways. This is what it is to be an NPC, unable to change your programming. There are only a tiny tiny tiny amount of player characters and you arent one of them. But you could be if you chose to be (you wont)

no one has free will. there is literally no evidence, reason or logic to suggest its there, and tons of evidence to indicate its nothing more than an illusion. your consciousness is nothing more than an observer and narrator, it does not make decisions, it doesnt calculate, that is entirely the domain of your subconscious. thats not to say humans cant change or influence their subconscious decision making for the better, but the decision to change your subconscious thoughts was a subconscious decision in and of itself.

>>41504029
I feel like I have free will and that's evidence I have it

>>41503067
Define murder
Explain why it would be immoral for someone to kill a mohel who mutilates babies
Cross the is ought gap by creating a syllogism with 2 premises that have is statements and a conclusion that has an ought statement that successfully crosses the is ought gap

For example
That man is a judge
That judge is a liar

The judge ought not lie

And no judge's shouldn't inherently be truthful. It's my preference that judges should be as truthful as possible yes but that's me creating a sperate premise it doesn't cross the is ought gap

Is statements will never be able to deduce into an ought statement unless you're defining ought as some kind of is.

>>41487153
No. NPC theory is how you explain the fact that 60-70% of the population consists exclusively of brain washed, mind kontrolled retards with little self awareness, spiritual purpose, sense that anything that isn't entirely nuts and bolts could be happening here, integrity, or critical thinking skills.
NPC theory is how you explain the disparity between free will and most people simply not exercising it. Most of the world is made up of people who don't matter at all, never will, contribute effectively nothing, and uselessly eat. If you haven't noticed this, then I hate to break it to you, you're an NPC.
If you have people (imaginary or real( behind you cheering you on for having the right opinion, you're almost assuredly an NPC. This isn't a way people bitch about people they don't like or understand: it is a model that has been used since gnosticism was a thing that explains how and why most people don't even seem to be fully ensouled.

>>41506703
It’s not a model, it’s not even cohesive. The idea was so crappy even early Christians decided to throw it out.
Go ahead and describe some traits of NPCs. Then do an internal review and see how closely those traits align with things you don’t like in people. Everything people claim to dislike about NPCs is just a reflection of traits they dislike in themselves or people they know.
This idea that if people had free will they would choose to live their lives differently is absolutely self centered and idiotic. Thinking people who disagree with you or make different choices are not real just because they don’t think the same way you do is peak childish nonsense.
You’re just admitting that you have both zero empathy and poor mental skills to be able to understand another’s perspective.

>>41506745
nta try rereading the op

Bump

>>41507347
You don’t even have your own ideas about what makes someone an NPC? Lol. Sounds like a fucking NPC’s thought process to me.

>>41508121
I am op

>>41508911
Ok well it’s very obvious that the list in the OP is just you projecting traits you dislikes about yourself onto others.
Now do the second step and look at the things you don’t like about yourself and compare it to your list. I bet you feel useless in the face of powerful evil. I bet you think about suicide and you know for sure you’d take someone evil with you if you went. I bet you’re unhappy about eating meat. I bet you’re frustrated you can’t do anything about abortion. I bet you wish you were rich so you could use your money to help people. I bet you struggle with your health and diet.
This is normal shit to feel and it’s stuff everyone is dealing with. You think you’re the only one frustrated by this and expecting others to be better, when basically everyone is feeling the same way. It’s only a lack of perspective and empathy that makes you feel alone or in the minority in these feelings.
Everyone else is feeling the exact same shit you’re feeling all the time and they are just expressing those feelings in different ways.

>>41509260
I'm thin. I'm not overweight and never have been.
I'm vegan.

I don't think most people are NPCs because they do things I disagree with I think most people are NPCs because they do things they disagree with. They're massive hypocrites

If the world had more people like me in it it'd be a much better place! People like me are rare because idk environments and genetics like the ones I have are rare.

>>41509480
People just do what they want and make excuses for it later.

>>41510008
Yes but I wouldn't expect most people to behave this way if most people had a large amount of libertarian free will.
How can religions like Christianity be plausible? People are accountable for not believing in Jesus? Despite having been born into environment and genetics making it difficult to do so?

>>41510187
When you encounter things like logic in your thinking that make you doubt, you're supposed to stop, backtrack, vow to never have that logic again and then stop thinking.

You're sinning by activating your mind anon-kun.

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npcs exist, read plato.

>>41487016
Imagine wanting to be a woman.

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>>41487009
I had a very very giga brained idea recently for the first time in my life.

Look at how different humans are even of the same race. Among the same family/genes even. Yes, there are inputs and outputs, how memes show people are very similar. But still, you'll have people act very different ways when they're supposed to be genetically/materialistically very similar. My thought I had is that showcases how we definitely have some push and pull from the "other side." I don't know about souls, I'm agnostic, but this is a case for souls/the other side. We are at once flesh computers that if you drive a metal spike through our brains you cause crazy behavioral shifts, yet our brains might be picking up on the "radio" of the otherside which is what actually matters and our true self/the dreamer.

All this is schizobabble. I struggle with my agnosticism and I search for copes about the afterlife hopefully existing.

>>41513201
I understand your point but I would prefer not to do that. Thank you for understanding.

>>41513216
Research dolores Canon.
Death is not the end, my friend

>>41513240
Women are boring.

>>41487009
How to tell if you are an NPC / are stuck in cycles that ultimately lead to a lesser state of being.

>>41513455
>>41513486
Janny being tranny

Bump

>>41513473
>>41487060

Bump

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>>41503153 All our current problems exist because of weak, moralistic, empathycuck faggots exactly like (You).
Good news: it’s unironically fucking over for you and your kind.
Atheist or not, every normie is spiritually a turn-the-other-cheek guy.
The second Christian morality finally dies in the normie hive-mind, you’re all getting sent to the dustbin of history right after it.
It’s inevitable.
Cope. Seethe. Dilate. Mald.
Absolutely nothing can stop what’s coming.

>>41506745
That's a lot of effort to put words in my mouth, fren. I'll quote what other anon said: try rereading "op" (i.e. me). I stated directly what is observably "NPC" and it has nothing to do with how much I like or agree with somebody. It has everything to do with whether or not said human operates from a place of conscious awareness, and this basically comes down to brainwashing. A non NPC can question their own brainwashing and change whichever script they want to. Every non NPC has emerged from a general state of NPCdome either in childhood or adulthood. There is no differentiating between muh free will and the free will of a so called NPC. If we take the simulation/video game model, an NPC is simply a human playing this shit like an idler. They allow most decisions to simply be made and comprise a huge percentage of the population because all it really takes to be an NPC is to remain completely asleep to the tune of the narrative/culture/cult/society of your condition.
Most non NPCs are used to not being agreed with because they tend to form their own opinions and values that aren't stenciled in like a bulk of society. Ruling bodies tend to keep as many sheep in this state as possible because it allows for more control: the legions of people wanting big government daddy to love them and pamper them are useful idiots to the state. They'll eat anything you feed their simulation. The new Netflix special. Fucking whatever. It's possible for anyone to wake up anytime. Every NPC is still real. Dissociated and dreaming, but real. It isn't even a spiritualist vs materialist thing. It's literally about ownership of mind and self experience through action, however small. Having the courage to disagree at all with societal gospel is a good place to begin the journey of consciousness. As a blasphemer and fool seeking betterment on an unsafe road that leads to a place sages dwell. Best of luck to you all.

>>41487009
Yes, it is true.

Only Divine Solipsism and Ontological Polytheism answer the many minds problem.

No other philosophy answers it.

I solved it.

I basically won the game while inside it.
I answered the many minds problem.

The folks back home watching me play are probably saying things like "See? I don't know how he does it."

Like Rick in Blips and Chips.

Solved. Done. It is funny that the Mormons were the closest with their eternal soul idea.

and the 'we are all one' stuff is a classic trap. It does not answer the many minds problem.

And if the we are all one stuff were true, I'd tame that chaotic sea like it was Tiamat and I'd make God 1:1 with ego and I'd get to solving real questions rather than torturing myself.

I solved all of this.

The OP lists your stance on 5 different hot topics. It's not even subtle.
Deecartes shut in a room and considered the problem of; how can he be sure that his stances happen to be the correct ones? What if a mistake was made? What if all beliefs were reset and you had to start over?
If you aren't on that level, imo you can't consider npc-ness. And I'm not listing a big name to imply you can't get to that level, everyone can in fact get to it.

>>41487060
All of these other than being vegan and arguably the murder suicide are good however

>>41487009
No, its just a cope for outcast neets to for once in their lives feel better than other people. Every living being has a soul, flesh robots dont exist. Just different stages of evolution, and on the same stage of evolution, different soul purposes. Calling other people NPCs is just a sign of a severe lack of empathy (or just multiperspectivic thinking)

>>41495492
Just like you will never be a man. Ur technically destined to be a big boy well into your 80s where you then die of a stroke (poor blood circulation)

18 doesn't make you an adult

>>41518024
>a frogposting subhuman from cuckchan is telling you what's christcuck morality or not
>empathy and morality... le bad
You will be in a cage fighting with feral cannibalistic niggers for my entertainment during a hypothetical race war along with all the coal burning whores and normalfags from reddit, then reborn as a pajeet after they are done with you. If you think that you will ever be part of some tribe at all, it's maybe a tribe of fellow mixed up brown mystery meat kikes. Don't count on coming out on top, larping mutt. Your head will be rotting on a pike.

i love that there isn't a single motherfucker on /x/ who can construct a cogent argument or thought from start to finish. where the fuck do you retards all even come from goddamn.

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>>41518855 >Don't count on coming out on top, larping mutt.
Keep coping, europoor. We're already the #1 country in the world.
>empathy and morality... le bad
Correct. Overdosing on these onions-infused abstractions is impractical and dangerous. They've brought nothing but crisis and suffering to my people. Time to throw it all in the trash.

>>41519001
I know you can change, enjoy your defiled fag pie

>>41519001
>we
The Tyrone living next to you, who happens to be a textbook superman of Nietzsche?
Fate of Brazil and South Africa is your banana republic shithole's future, not because of muh empathy, but because mutts are inherently retarded individualistic backstabbing dysgenic faggots.

>>41518441
My super controversial stance is people should be logically and internally consistent

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>>41487016
yeah you should go cut your dick off even Jesus says its ok

Nice job editing the heatmap to fit your worldview faggot.

That isn't what it was at all. The closer to the circle is where people placed more importance. It showed liberalism cares more about rocks, plants and other cultures than their own family or community.

This has been studied to death and it is quite clear. Liberalism places value on exterior things because they have no interior support group to fall back on, so they rely on exterior things.

LIberals are children that never grew up, never had good parents, never loved or accepted for who they were. So they look for external validation. That is the the gist of the heatmap.

>>41520363
Scriptural inerrancy is false

Bump

>>41520507
Your interpretation is retarded.
Higher numbers include the lower numbers.
Picking 16 is not “I don’t care about my family”, it’s “I care about my family and everything else”.
People who pick low numbers seem to think their family isn’t part of the ecosystem and need to eat and have a place to live. It’s cute not caring about anything but your kids until you don’t have food to feed them because you didn’t care about the outside world at all.

>>41523359
I think people should care about strangers even if it doesn't benefit them

>>41487009
OP isn't high empathy like he thinks he is. He's really just low intelligence. He lacks the foresight and 'bigger picture' understanding of things to understand that it's necessary to for some bad things to happen in order to prevent things that are MUCH worse from happening

I hate faggots like OP because low intelligence/higher empathy people like him are always being manipulated by the high intelligence/low empathy people into making the world a shitty place for everyone else. You can blame people like faggot OP for a lot of the problems he himself complains about.

For example: Whiny faggot OP thinks that abortions are ghastly and unpleasant. (No shit, dumbass, so does everyone.) But if there were no abortions there would be overpopulation, and then starvation, war and pestilence all of which are all much worse than abortions.

Also, no one donates to charities like Against Malaria because most malaria victims are third worlders living in Africa. It doesn't matter how much money you throw at them, everyone knows that most Africans have always been savages incapable rising to the level of civilization. At a certain point, giving Africans free money so that they can buy booze and guns to murder each other with is a drain on western society's finite resources. It is more ethically correct to help people in your own community and society first (because an implicit social contract) than randos on the other side of the planet you have never met. But faggots like OP get easily manipulated by propaganda into having their priorities switched around.

It's also ironic that faggot OP whines about empathy but at the same time devalues the majority of his fellow humans by claiming they don't have any--putting people like himself and killer Luigi Mangione into one category and the rest of us subhumans in a lower caste. This belies a secret cruelty that lurks in the "empathetic" heart of faggot OP. In short, OP needs to fuck off with his whiny sadsack crybullying.

>>41523634
it is true that donating to life-saving charities likely raises the population somewhat, https://arxiv.org/pdf/2007.11388 but I don’t think this means that they’ll hold the affected nations back.

First of all, being stricken by horrendous diseases tends to hold nations back economically. This effect seems vastly more significant https://blog.givewell.org/2013/05/15/flow-through-effects/ than the negative economic impact of a slightly larger population, particularly because it’s not clear whether a larger population will develop more slowly or more quickly. America is better-off economically than we were in the 1800s, when the population was lower and disease was a greater burden.


Second, it looks like effective charities tend to lower the fertility rate somewhat but this effect is counterbalanced by the lives saved. But things go much better in society if fewer people are born and die, rather than if more people both are born and die. Vast amounts of resources are wasted if people die shortly after birth.


Third, if you’re concerned about this, just give to other charities. Give to charities that make people’s lives better—e.g. by curing blindness— https://www.givewell.org/charities/helen-keller-international or that help animals on factory farms. https://www.farmkind.giving/ If you end up concluding that charities saving lives are bad, then just give elsewhere! It would be shocking, and suspiciously convenient, if every single charity on the planet did more harm than good!

>>41523715
>>41523634
Fourth, I find this idea pretty intuitively repugnant. Imagine that you could save an African child drowning in a pond. This line of reasoning would seem to imply that doing so would be actively bad because of the impact on overpopulation. This kind of reasoning is not something we’d normally take seriously. Suspiciously, it only crops up when people are justifying not giving away their money. Hmm…

Another concern: shouldn’t we donate locally? Why should we help people overseas when those around us are suffering?

The answer is that it’s much easier to help people overseas. Most of the people who have fallen through the cracks in wealthy country are hard to help. It’s hard to help a homeless person who is on the streets. In contrast, saving lives overseas is cheap and easy—it costs just around 5,000 dollars to save someone’s life. https://www.givewell.org/charities/top-charities Plausibly, therefore, giving overseas does tens or hundreds of times more good than donating locally. So unless people in your city matter hundreds of times more than people overseas, it’s probably better to donate overseas.

I also find the idea pretty weird that we have extremely strong obligations to the people around us rather than far away. If you could save someone drowning in a pond, would it matter how far away they were? Would it matter if they were an American citizen? If people in your country matter more than people in another country, then people start mattering way more after they fly in a plane and fill out paperwork to become a citizen. But that’s very unintuitive. The reasons to save your life shouldn’t change because you signed some paperwork! In fact, holding that we have strong duties to our countrymen that don’t apply to foreigners often implies https://benthams.substack.com/p/america-second?utm_source=publication-search we should perform actions that harm one person and benefit no one!

>>41523724
>>41523715
>>41523634
aren’t scholars unsure if foreign aid works? Aren’t there lots of smart people who think foreign aid backfires? If so, shouldn’t we be skeptical about efforts to provide foreign aid?

It’s true that some kinds of foreign aid are controversial among scholars. Some people think that economic development aid entraps countries and leaves them in poverty. But crucially, none of the kinds of foreign aid promoted by GiveWell are controversial. Among scholars, there is no serious debate about whether, say, anti-malarial bednets are good. https://blog.givewell.org/2015/11/06/the-lack-of-controversy-over-well-targeted-aid/ The most prominent critics of foreign aid support these kinds of programs. High quality studies have been done on them and have confirmed their efficacy. There is not serious room for doubt.

And, once again, if you’re concerned about this, just give to other charities, like the charities https://www.farmkind.giving/donate that prevent animals from languishing in a cage for ten years per dollar they raise. https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/lewis-bollard Or give to the organizations working to prevent the extinction of life on Earth. https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/charities/long-term-future-fund

In my view, there are not any decisive objections to taking the Giving What We Can pledge. https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/pledge It is very likely the best thing you will ever do, and because of it, plausibly hundreds fewer people will die and/or hundreds of thousands fewer animals will suffer horrors beyond comprehension. https://benthams.substack.com/p/the-bone-chilling-evil-of-factory

https://benthams.substack.com/p/every-objection-to-taking-the-giving

>>41523715
> donating to life-saving charities likely raises the population somewhat...but I don’t think this means that they’ll hold the affected nations back.

There's nothing inherently wrong with population growth. Population growth needs to be sustainable by the amount of available resources, though, obviously.

> I find this idea pretty intuitively repugnant. Imagine that you could save an African child drowning in a pond

This is a bad argument based on a comparison of two unlike things.

> It’s hard to help a homeless person who is on the streets.
It's completely

It's entirely possible to reduce homelessness and other problems through better economic policies and government programs and also, I suppose charities. If our leaders aren't interested in doing that why would they be so interested in helping people in North Sudan???

> The answer is that it’s much easier to help people overseas.

It's easy to dump money into the third world from a helicopter and then go home feeling good about yourself, having actually accomplished nothing. Like the homeless, the complete lack of good you're doing is out of sight out of mind, a long ways away where you don't have to look at it. Once you get embroiled in the internal politics between different African regimes and warlords and the closely related geopolitics of foreign powers vying for political power and resources you will see that no one actually cares about the human right of Africans.

> I also find the idea pretty weird that we have extremely strong obligations to the people around us...

Yes that is the non-assholish thing to do seeing as there are ties of mutual interest and shared responsibility. Also, there is an obligation to build a better society and community for the next generation and not squander wealth by buying hot air balloons for underprivileged Zimbabweans.

>>41487009

You should probably behave like it isn't true, although it probably is.

>>41523735
> Among scholars, there is no serious debate about...

Many academics are intellectually dishonest. This is partially because many of them are heavily dependent on government grants and private funding. Many academics have to shill the interests of the ruling class if they want to keep their jobs.

> Some people think that economic development aid entraps countries and leaves them in poverty.

Then at best it's redundant. There's really not a lot you can do for primitive peoples in the long run.

> In my view, there are not any decisive objections to taking the Giving What We Can pledge.

I'm not against charity, I just think charity should start at home. I'm not of the opinion that we should have austerity and depopulation here at home while financing neocolonianism abroad.

>>41523970
I agree with this

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>>41523958
>>41524017
You skipped over a lot of my points like essentially all of >>41523715 but I'll reply to your last point anyways
>>41524017
>I'm not against charity, I just think charity should start at home.

The cheapest and most effective charities for preventing suffering and saving lives at home is animal rights/animal welfare for farm animals and abortion abolitionist charities. Unfortunately almost none of the dollars donated goes to farm animals which strengthens my NPC argument.
Almost all dollars donated by people who oppose abortion go to pro life controlled opposition charities rather than abortion abolitionist charities.

Narcsissists have to be agents of the matrix with how they all act the same

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>>41524263
I think I did address most of your points but not at any great length because lack of time.

> The cheapest and most effective charities for preventing suffering and saving lives at home is animal rights...

It would be better to turn all of those animals into meat and feed the homeless because people are more important than animals. I never liked utilitarianism because of its underlying nihilism and also because it leads people into silly and counterintuitive positions like institutionalized cannibalism or killing a human so you can save a group of animals.

NPC's exist because there needs to be leaders and followers. Imo, it's a lack of intelligence rather than a lack of empathy. Some people need to be told who to feel sorry for and who to hate b/c they don't think for themselves. (If someone wanted to they could probably train them to think more for themselves just like they're trained to do other things.) NPC's in general can fall anywhere on the sociopathic/empathetic spectrum. Idk what your motive is for trying to build up a case that most people are non-empathetic npc's but good luck with that.

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>>41487009
your pic is based on that chart that I made a while ago on /pol

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i think NPCs are real, they probably exist just to keep the world running by doing bullshit brainless tasks. I feel that you can tell if someone has a soul just through looking them in the eyes, think about it like animals, if you look a german shepherd in the eyes you can see some intelligence behind them, whereas if you look a yappy little cunt terrier in the eyes theres nothing behind there just one braincell bouncing around like a dvd logo thinking about when its next meal will be. I shared a house with six other people when i moved across my country on a work placement, i am convinced one of them was an npc
zero intelligence behind his eyes, was incapable of thinking for himself

>guy literally had no free thinking, would just parrot opinions from andrew tate or whatever fucking influencer he encountered that week
>was completely unable to apply information in his own way
>if you tried to teach him something he would either forget or try to copy your instructions word for word
>anything that involved personal touch / preference / skill he was unable to do unless copying a instruction manual, cooking for example
>cooked and ate only spaghetti bolognese every single day for the nine months i lived there, not even good, prison food looked better than the slop he would make
>would spew common internet opinions and "knowledge" at people on how to do things like working on cars despite never having done so in his life
>his engineering work consisted of filling out and signing the same spreadsheets every day, from what i know his company kept him in such a spot because it was the only thing he knew how to do
>had to teach this guy how to use a sponge and clean a pan cause any time he tried to clean he would somehow spill liters of water on the floor and counters

living with this "human" made me believe in people without souls / NPCs
that or he was monumentally autistic / FASD

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>>41526770
you made this lol it’s kinda sad, you know the higher numbers include the lower numbers right? its not indicating a preference for other people over self and family.